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Warfronts Will Arrive a Few Weeks After the Launch of Battle for Azeroth - World of Warcraft - MMORP

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edited August 2018 in News & Features Discussion

imageWarfronts Will Arrive a Few Weeks After the Launch of Battle for Azeroth - World of Warcraft - MMORPG.com

World of Warcraft News - If you were looking forward to taking part in Warfronts when World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth launches, you may want to temper that hope. According to one of Blizzard's community managers, Warfronts will not be part of the launch experience. The game's first warfront, Battle for Stromgard, will arrive in September.

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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 6,483
    I can't wait to get inside so I can afk for a hour and collect my loot!
    jgDuffayaleczaleczpantaroArskaaaDiscipledOnerodingoborghive49TintagilnumanpFrodoFraginsand 1 other.
  • JeffSpicoliJeffSpicoli Member EpicPosts: 2,849
    Blizz really milking that content already
    Viper482
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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,126

    thunderC said:

    Blizz really milking that content already



    This is no different than what they have done with raid unlocks for a decade +. It's not milking content. It's "the way it's been done". *shrugs* They want players to level, gear up and so forth before putting out the "more difficult" content like Mythic +, PvP Season 1, Mythic Raiding and, now, Warfronts.
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  • jgDuffayjgDuffay Member UncommonPosts: 217
    cant keep any content behind any kind of time\pay\difficulty lock these days without people screaming about it xD
    OyjordCelciuspostlarvalLeiloniThahar
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,483
    SBFord said:

    thunderC said:

    Blizz really milking that content already



    This is no different than what they have done with raid unlocks for a decade +. It's not milking content. It's "the way it's been done". *shrugs* They want players to level, gear up and so forth before putting out the "more difficult" content like Mythic +, PvP Season 1, Mythic Raiding and, now, Warfronts.
    Do we know what the itemization is like in BfA?  I haven't read much about that.  What will the power gap be between 110 gear currently and the BfA 120 gear?

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  • Viper482Viper482 Member EpicPosts: 2,705
    I hope this is fun, cautiously looking forward to it.
    Oyjord
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  • sayuusayuu Member RarePosts: 742



    SBFord said:



    thunderC said:


    Blizz really milking that content already






    This is no different than what they have done with raid unlocks for a decade +. It's not milking content. It's "the way it's been done". *shrugs* They want players to level, gear up and so forth before putting out the "more difficult" content like Mythic +, PvP Season 1, Mythic Raiding and, now, Warfronts.


    Do we know what the itemization is like in BfA?  I haven't read much about that.  What will the power gap be between 110 gear currently and the BfA 120 gear?




    just like the last 2 expansions, if you are decked out in top tier mythic gear you'll be hard pressed to find upgrades till endgame heroic dungeons.

    Except for weapons, players artifacts will more likely be replaced mid leveling experience
    MadFrenchie
  • XingbairongXingbairong Member RarePosts: 929

    sayuu said:







    SBFord said:





    thunderC said:



    Blizz really milking that content already









    This is no different than what they have done with raid unlocks for a decade +. It's not milking content. It's "the way it's been done". *shrugs* They want players to level, gear up and so forth before putting out the "more difficult" content like Mythic +, PvP Season 1, Mythic Raiding and, now, Warfronts.




    Do we know what the itemization is like in BfA?  I haven't read much about that.  What will the power gap be between 110 gear currently and the BfA 120 gear?








    just like the last 2 expansions, if you are decked out in top tier mythic gear you'll be hard pressed to find upgrades till endgame heroic dungeons.



    Except for weapons, players artifacts will more likely be replaced mid leveling experience




    This has never happened in any expansion... like any other mythic gear from previous expansion you will replace it by level 118.
    Normal dungeons drop 310, Heroic 325, Mythic 340(?)+.
    Psym0n
  • DiscipledOneDiscipledOne Member UncommonPosts: 103
    The warm up to this expansion doesn’t have me nearly as hyped as the last few, but maybe that’s a good thing. Overall. I am thinking of taking off from work a bit early tomorrow so I can get in on that server queue action.
    saurus123
  • SephirosoSephiroso Member RarePosts: 2,019
    SBFord said:

    thunderC said:

    Blizz really milking that content already



    This is no different than what they have done with raid unlocks for a decade +. It's not milking content. It's "the way it's been done". *shrugs* They want players to level, gear up and so forth before putting out the "more difficult" content like Mythic +, PvP Season 1, Mythic Raiding and, now, Warfronts.
    Do we know what the itemization is like in BfA?  I haven't read much about that.  What will the power gap be between 110 gear currently and the BfA 120 gear?
    You can see this for yourself by logging into the game and checking the dungeon journal. Shows all the gear for the different difficulty levels from dungeons/raids/world bosses. Can't see warfront/wq rewards however.
    MadFrenchie

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  • borghive49borghive49 Member RarePosts: 372
    I tested these is beta, they are boring and they can't be lost. You are guaranteed victory every match. There was a lot of afking in them too.

    I don't get why Blizzard keeps making this type of content, if there is zero chance of failing the content, why would anyone bother even trying?

    LFR is kind of like this, eventually you get enough determination that you just over power the encounter.
  • sayuusayuu Member RarePosts: 742




    sayuu said:











    SBFord said:







    thunderC said:




    Blizz really milking that content already












    This is no different than what they have done with raid unlocks for a decade +. It's not milking content. It's "the way it's been done". *shrugs* They want players to level, gear up and so forth before putting out the "more difficult" content like Mythic +, PvP Season 1, Mythic Raiding and, now, Warfronts.






    Do we know what the itemization is like in BfA?  I haven't read much about that.  What will the power gap be between 110 gear currently and the BfA 120 gear?












    just like the last 2 expansions, if you are decked out in top tier mythic gear you'll be hard pressed to find upgrades till endgame heroic dungeons.





    Except for weapons, players artifacts will more likely be replaced mid leveling experience








    This has never happened in any expansion... like any other mythic gear from previous expansion you will replace it by level 118.

    Normal dungeons drop 310, Heroic 325, Mythic 340(?)+.



    not true.
  • XingbairongXingbairong Member RarePosts: 929

    sayuu said:








    sayuu said:















    SBFord said:









    thunderC said:





    Blizz really milking that content already















    This is no different than what they have done with raid unlocks for a decade +. It's not milking content. It's "the way it's been done". *shrugs* They want players to level, gear up and so forth before putting out the "more difficult" content like Mythic +, PvP Season 1, Mythic Raiding and, now, Warfronts.








    Do we know what the itemization is like in BfA?  I haven't read much about that.  What will the power gap be between 110 gear currently and the BfA 120 gear?
















    just like the last 2 expansions, if you are decked out in top tier mythic gear you'll be hard pressed to find upgrades till endgame heroic dungeons.







    Except for weapons, players artifacts will more likely be replaced mid leveling experience












    This has never happened in any expansion... like any other mythic gear from previous expansion you will replace it by level 118.


    Normal dungeons drop 310, Heroic 325, Mythic 340(?)+.






    not true.



    It's true because it's a fact. All mythic gear gets replaced max 7-8 levels into leveling. That's been like that since Vanilla. MoP legendary cloak was the only exception where people used it in normal dungeons(maybe even heroics if super unlucky) for a while and that's only because it had a really strong proc.

    Gear from new content is always higher level. Makes 0 sense to have old gear be good enough for new content.

    For those that are curious current legendaries are 265(previous ilvl 1000, which was max level), while 260-270 gear starts dropping around level 116-118, so yeah you will replace all your gear before level 120. At 120 there are normal quests that give 300 ilvl gear while WQ will probably give even slightly higher ilvl(it's corresponding to your ilvl). If you get lucky with warforge/titanforge you can probably skip doing normal dungeons and get 325 ilvl gear for heroic dungeons from vendors and world quests.
    CelciusThupli
  • SephirosoSephiroso Member RarePosts: 2,019

    sayuu said:








    sayuu said:















    SBFord said:









    thunderC said:





    Blizz really milking that content already















    This is no different than what they have done with raid unlocks for a decade +. It's not milking content. It's "the way it's been done". *shrugs* They want players to level, gear up and so forth before putting out the "more difficult" content like Mythic +, PvP Season 1, Mythic Raiding and, now, Warfronts.








    Do we know what the itemization is like in BfA?  I haven't read much about that.  What will the power gap be between 110 gear currently and the BfA 120 gear?
















    just like the last 2 expansions, if you are decked out in top tier mythic gear you'll be hard pressed to find upgrades till endgame heroic dungeons.







    Except for weapons, players artifacts will more likely be replaced mid leveling experience












    This has never happened in any expansion... like any other mythic gear from previous expansion you will replace it by level 118.


    Normal dungeons drop 310, Heroic 325, Mythic 340(?)+.






    not true.



    It's true because it's a fact. All mythic gear gets replaced max 7-8 levels into leveling. That's been like that since Vanilla. MoP legendary cloak was the only exception where people used it in normal dungeons(maybe even heroics if super unlucky) for a while and that's only because it had a really strong proc.

    Gear from new content is always higher level. Makes 0 sense to have old gear be good enough for new content.

    For those that are curious current legendaries are 265(previous ilvl 1000, which was max level), while 260-270 gear starts dropping around level 116-118, so yeah you will replace all your gear before level 120. At 120 there are normal quests that give 300 ilvl gear while WQ will probably give even slightly higher ilvl(it's corresponding to your ilvl). If you get lucky with warforge/titanforge you can probably skip doing normal dungeons and get 325 ilvl gear for heroic dungeons from vendors and world quests.
    Regardless of getting lucky gear or not you should be skipping normal dungeons outside of doing them for the dungeon quest at the end of a zone. Normal dungeons are for strictly new players to wow and is a waste of time for anyone at all versed in playing WoW.
    Xingbairong

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  • sayuusayuu Member RarePosts: 742

    sayuu said:








    sayuu said:















    SBFord said:









    thunderC said:





    Blizz really milking that content already















    This is no different than what they have done with raid unlocks for a decade +. It's not milking content. It's "the way it's been done". *shrugs* They want players to level, gear up and so forth before putting out the "more difficult" content like Mythic +, PvP Season 1, Mythic Raiding and, now, Warfronts.








    Do we know what the itemization is like in BfA?  I haven't read much about that.  What will the power gap be between 110 gear currently and the BfA 120 gear?
















    just like the last 2 expansions, if you are decked out in top tier mythic gear you'll be hard pressed to find upgrades till endgame heroic dungeons.







    Except for weapons, players artifacts will more likely be replaced mid leveling experience












    This has never happened in any expansion... like any other mythic gear from previous expansion you will replace it by level 118.


    Normal dungeons drop 310, Heroic 325, Mythic 340(?)+.






    not true.



    It's true because it's a fact. All mythic gear gets replaced max 7-8 levels into leveling. That's been like that since Vanilla. MoP legendary cloak was the only exception where people used it in normal dungeons(maybe even heroics if super unlucky) for a while and that's only because it had a really strong proc.

    Gear from new content is always higher level. Makes 0 sense to have old gear be good enough for new content.

    For those that are curious current legendaries are 265(previous ilvl 1000, which was max level), while 260-270 gear starts dropping around level 116-118, so yeah you will replace all your gear before level 120. At 120 there are normal quests that give 300 ilvl gear while WQ will probably give even slightly higher ilvl(it's corresponding to your ilvl). If you get lucky with warforge/titanforge you can probably skip doing normal dungeons and get 325 ilvl gear for heroic dungeons from vendors and world quests.
    again not true. . .there was no mythic in vanilla. . . 
    ZalgotasCelcius
  • SephirosoSephiroso Member RarePosts: 2,019
    sayuu said:

    sayuu said:








    sayuu said:















    SBFord said:









    thunderC said:





    Blizz really milking that content already















    This is no different than what they have done with raid unlocks for a decade +. It's not milking content. It's "the way it's been done". *shrugs* They want players to level, gear up and so forth before putting out the "more difficult" content like Mythic +, PvP Season 1, Mythic Raiding and, now, Warfronts.








    Do we know what the itemization is like in BfA?  I haven't read much about that.  What will the power gap be between 110 gear currently and the BfA 120 gear?
















    just like the last 2 expansions, if you are decked out in top tier mythic gear you'll be hard pressed to find upgrades till endgame heroic dungeons.







    Except for weapons, players artifacts will more likely be replaced mid leveling experience












    This has never happened in any expansion... like any other mythic gear from previous expansion you will replace it by level 118.


    Normal dungeons drop 310, Heroic 325, Mythic 340(?)+.






    not true.



    It's true because it's a fact. All mythic gear gets replaced max 7-8 levels into leveling. That's been like that since Vanilla. MoP legendary cloak was the only exception where people used it in normal dungeons(maybe even heroics if super unlucky) for a while and that's only because it had a really strong proc.

    Gear from new content is always higher level. Makes 0 sense to have old gear be good enough for new content.

    For those that are curious current legendaries are 265(previous ilvl 1000, which was max level), while 260-270 gear starts dropping around level 116-118, so yeah you will replace all your gear before level 120. At 120 there are normal quests that give 300 ilvl gear while WQ will probably give even slightly higher ilvl(it's corresponding to your ilvl). If you get lucky with warforge/titanforge you can probably skip doing normal dungeons and get 325 ilvl gear for heroic dungeons from vendors and world quests.
    again not true. . .there was no mythic in vanilla. . . 
    can we get a name change for sayuu to be maximumpedantry from now on?
    ZalgotasCelciuspostlarvalThupliLeiloniXingbairong

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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 6,483
    I tested these is beta, they are boring and they can't be lost. You are guaranteed victory every match. There was a lot of afking in them too.

    I don't get why Blizzard keeps making this type of content, if there is zero chance of failing the content, why would anyone bother even trying?

    LFR is kind of like this, eventually you get enough determination that you just over power the encounter.
    Yeah, this is what I've always had a problem with for "story mode" content, especially with Legion's gearing system (got a 235 trinket from lfr a week ago on my alt on aggramar, cause ya know titanforging...). This gear can supposedly drop up to heroic raid level gear so that's always nice....Gearing isn't going to be a real "issue" for most people tbh anyway the first week or 2 due to how intensive the grind is for mythic level traits on azerite gear, so that heroic chest/shoulder/head is going to be better for 85% of the playerbase vs mythic due to how high of a azerite level you need to unlock the first tier of traits. That said though, this system is just lackluster atm that I dont even care to bother raiding until maybe a couple of patches.
  • CelciusCelcius Member RarePosts: 1,563
    edited August 2018

    jgDuffay said:

    cant keep any content behind any kind of time\pay\difficulty lock these days without people screaming about it xD



    The WoW community is used to this. It is the people on the outside looking in that really like to complain about it Personally, I don't mind it in the case of Warfronts or the other end game content being gated (Mythic+ / Raids) as it gives me a chance to really savoir the rest of the expansion.
    Soki123Leiloni
  • claytondoraclaytondora Member UncommonPosts: 28
    Really wish warfronts had a pvp mode like the Island Expeditions. It just fits so well...
    Thupli
  • CelciusCelcius Member RarePosts: 1,563
    edited August 2018
    Really wish warfronts had a pvp mode like the Island Expeditions. It just fits so well...
    I suspect that Warfronts will probably have a PvP mode or some kind of PvP version when they update the feature/ add new ones in future patches. I think this seems like a missed opportunity otherwise. 
    ThupliEl-HefeXingbairong
  • El-HefeEl-Hefe Member UncommonPosts: 760
    I agree with Celcius above me. They roll out the new mode pve style and eventually it will turn to pvp modes.

    I've got the straight edge.

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member RarePosts: 4,303
    SBFord said:

    thunderC said:

    Blizz really milking that content already



    This is no different than what they have done with raid unlocks for a decade +. It's not milking content. It's "the way it's been done". *shrugs* They want players to level, gear up and so forth before putting out the "more difficult" content like Mythic +, PvP Season 1, Mythic Raiding and, now, Warfronts.
    If milking is what "they've always done", it's still milking
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 6,483

    Celcius said:



    jgDuffay said:


    cant keep any content behind any kind of time\pay\difficulty lock these days without people screaming about it xD






    The WoW community is used to this. It is the people on the outside looking in that really like to complain about it Personally, I don't mind it in the case of Warfronts or the other end game content being gated (Mythic+ / Raids) as it gives me a chance to really savoir the rest of the expansion.



    The 'community' doesn't mind timegating if its worth wait, which as an actually piece of content, warfronts is not. Id say blizzard needs to stop being arrogant when gating though since a lot more people are just unsubbing/stop logging in under the time comes depending on what is being gated and what there currently is to do. The prepatch event is a prime example with a large portion of people not even logging in until the following week. But if that's the type of game they want, its fine.
  • saurus123saurus123 Member UncommonPosts: 665
    Warfront a PVE game mode :D
  • xion12121xion12121 Member UncommonPosts: 175
    First of all people will be leveling up for a few weeks. It's the launch of the expnsion after all, plus you will have bgs and other content until warfronts are put in.

    I would give you a guest pass to SWOTR, but then I wouldn't be able to find a way to live with myself afterwards....

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