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  • SephirosoSephiroso Member RarePosts: 2,019
    Celcius said:
    Galadourn said:

    Sephiroso said:



    After spending a fair amount of time in the BfA beta I could not see going back to such an early version. Been there done that. I am glad the option is coming for those who want it though! Kudos to Blizzard for offering it. 


    Trust me, it ain't gonna be just you. WoW classic is gonna be a ghost town 3 months in.



    I beg to differ; Nostalrius was full all the time, Lightshope too, and it was not due to "rose-colored glasses". Vanilla is not just about completing quests or clearing raids, the community was phenomenal.
    Full being you know, thousands of people, not hundreds of thousands. Those people also didn't pay money to access the game. Let's see how many of them are willing to fork out 15$ a month for the game that will eventually (Right away) no longer provide content updates. ;) 
    No one sees it being niche as a problem (including Blizzard) save for those who choose to do so.  Apparently, for other reasons unrelated to the project itself.

    Thousands of people is plenty enough to populate a classic server.  Consider that games like DAoC are still running on that kind of population, and the doom-calling is inappropriate at this point.
    You seem to act like Blizzard is above making a big mistake and wasting a lot of money. That's what this will end up being. The amount of money blizzard is putting into this to make it work is not some small number. Time will tell if it works out in their favor. The one thing Blizzard is good at is turning a mistake into their favor(look at Titan, they wasted a ton of money and time developing it, but instead of letting it rot, they turned it into Overwatch).

    Blizzard is doing this is to 1. make people stfu asking them to do this and 2. to snag the players via their nostalgia handles and eventually get them to transition back into modern WoW when they eventually get sucked back into it again.

    Also, they'll be able to boast some impressive numbers the quarter that they classic WoW drops to their investors since BfA numbers will be high + classic whenever it drops.

    None of this is contingent on any long term success for classic WoW. Classic WoW won't fail for any reason other than not enough interest past some months in. People bringing up Nostralius conveniently forgetting you can play that for free. There's going to be a lot of people that won't feel like switching. There's going to be a ton that do and a ton that never wanted to play Nostralius because of personal feelings regarding private servers, but to point at Nostralius and a reason for why classic WoW will succeed is laughable.
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,440
    Sephiroso said:
    Celcius said:
    Galadourn said:

    Sephiroso said:



    After spending a fair amount of time in the BfA beta I could not see going back to such an early version. Been there done that. I am glad the option is coming for those who want it though! Kudos to Blizzard for offering it. 


    Trust me, it ain't gonna be just you. WoW classic is gonna be a ghost town 3 months in.



    I beg to differ; Nostalrius was full all the time, Lightshope too, and it was not due to "rose-colored glasses". Vanilla is not just about completing quests or clearing raids, the community was phenomenal.
    Full being you know, thousands of people, not hundreds of thousands. Those people also didn't pay money to access the game. Let's see how many of them are willing to fork out 15$ a month for the game that will eventually (Right away) no longer provide content updates. ;) 
    No one sees it being niche as a problem (including Blizzard) save for those who choose to do so.  Apparently, for other reasons unrelated to the project itself.

    Thousands of people is plenty enough to populate a classic server.  Consider that games like DAoC are still running on that kind of population, and the doom-calling is inappropriate at this point.

    None of this is contingent on any long term success for classic WoW. Classic WoW won't fail for any reason other than not enough interest past some months in. People bringing up Nostralius conveniently forgetting you can play that for free. There's going to be a lot of people that won't feel like switching. There's going to be a ton that do and a ton that never wanted to play Nostralius because of personal feelings regarding private servers, but to point at Nostralius and a reason for why classic WoW will succeed is laughable.
    No, what's laughable is that you and others who spew that nonsense conveniently ignore that there were multiple servers that included expansion content (AKA objectively more content than Nost), but yet Nost remained highly popular.

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  • axtrantiaxtranti Member UncommonPosts: 78

    Celcius said:

    The phrasing "Start with 1.12" is not accurate. It will Start and End with 1.12 is more appropriate. This is not a progression server. The content that is out at release is the content that will be available forever and you won't get more then that.



    Progression can be appropriate, gms can lock raids and unlock them accordingly as the server 'progresses'. I know what you mean though, but this is what might be done, SHOULD be done.

    asdasdasd

  • CazrielCazriel Member UncommonPosts: 393
    Excited about Classic. That's the game that brought MMOs out of nerdville and into mainstream. It opened the door for everyone to play. Yeah, I'm nostalgic for Classic. Had some of the best times in PvP ever in those days. And . . . looking for that original WoW Numa-Numa video.
  • CelciusCelcius Member RarePosts: 1,501
    edited June 2018
    Celcius said:
    Galadourn said:

    Sephiroso said:



    After spending a fair amount of time in the BfA beta I could not see going back to such an early version. Been there done that. I am glad the option is coming for those who want it though! Kudos to Blizzard for offering it. 


    Trust me, it ain't gonna be just you. WoW classic is gonna be a ghost town 3 months in.



    I beg to differ; Nostalrius was full all the time, Lightshope too, and it was not due to "rose-colored glasses". Vanilla is not just about completing quests or clearing raids, the community was phenomenal.
    Full being you know, thousands of people, not hundreds of thousands. Those people also didn't pay money to access the game. Let's see how many of them are willing to fork out 15$ a month for the game that will eventually (Right away) no longer provide content updates. ;) 
    No one sees it being niche as a problem (including Blizzard) save for those who choose to do so.  Apparently, for other reasons unrelated to the project itself.

    Thousands of people is plenty enough to populate a classic server.  Consider that games like DAoC are still running on that kind of population, and the doom-calling is inappropriate at this point.
    I mean, fair enough. But tell that to everyone who blows this way out of control. People who claim that it will be "huge" or that it will be bigger then modern day WoW are just naive. It will thrive as a small niche game, assuming they think the value in maintaining a Classic WoW team is worth it. 

    Think of it this way though, most people will consider this a dead server probably less then a year in. Will the classic players who are shouting from the roof tops accept this? Probably not. 
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,440
    Celcius said:
    Celcius said:
    Galadourn said:

    Sephiroso said:



    After spending a fair amount of time in the BfA beta I could not see going back to such an early version. Been there done that. I am glad the option is coming for those who want it though! Kudos to Blizzard for offering it. 


    Trust me, it ain't gonna be just you. WoW classic is gonna be a ghost town 3 months in.



    I beg to differ; Nostalrius was full all the time, Lightshope too, and it was not due to "rose-colored glasses". Vanilla is not just about completing quests or clearing raids, the community was phenomenal.
    Full being you know, thousands of people, not hundreds of thousands. Those people also didn't pay money to access the game. Let's see how many of them are willing to fork out 15$ a month for the game that will eventually (Right away) no longer provide content updates. ;) 
    No one sees it being niche as a problem (including Blizzard) save for those who choose to do so.  Apparently, for other reasons unrelated to the project itself.

    Thousands of people is plenty enough to populate a classic server.  Consider that games like DAoC are still running on that kind of population, and the doom-calling is inappropriate at this point.
    I mean, fair enough. But tell that to everyone who blows this way out of control. People who claim that it will be "huge" or that it will be bigger then modern day WoW are just naive. It will thrive as a small niche game, assuming they think the value in maintaining a Classic WoW team is worth it. 

    Think of it this way though, most people will consider this a dead server probably less then a year in. Will the classic players who are shouting from the roof tops accept this? Probably not. 
    When you try to compare a decade+ old version of a game to a new release, of course it will seem dead.  Conversely, no one should expect this version to field multiple full servers for a significant amount of time.  The population will fall off into the niche zone.  Without adding progression, the staff needed to maintain a Classic version will be relatively small.  However, the statement from Blizzard seems to indicate they already know this isn't going to be an eclipser of all other competitors; they already have that in the current build.

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  • SephirosoSephiroso Member RarePosts: 2,019
    Sephiroso said:
    Celcius said:
    Galadourn said:

    Sephiroso said:



    After spending a fair amount of time in the BfA beta I could not see going back to such an early version. Been there done that. I am glad the option is coming for those who want it though! Kudos to Blizzard for offering it. 


    Trust me, it ain't gonna be just you. WoW classic is gonna be a ghost town 3 months in.



    I beg to differ; Nostalrius was full all the time, Lightshope too, and it was not due to "rose-colored glasses". Vanilla is not just about completing quests or clearing raids, the community was phenomenal.
    Full being you know, thousands of people, not hundreds of thousands. Those people also didn't pay money to access the game. Let's see how many of them are willing to fork out 15$ a month for the game that will eventually (Right away) no longer provide content updates. ;) 
    No one sees it being niche as a problem (including Blizzard) save for those who choose to do so.  Apparently, for other reasons unrelated to the project itself.

    Thousands of people is plenty enough to populate a classic server.  Consider that games like DAoC are still running on that kind of population, and the doom-calling is inappropriate at this point.

    None of this is contingent on any long term success for classic WoW. Classic WoW won't fail for any reason other than not enough interest past some months in. People bringing up Nostralius conveniently forgetting you can play that for free. There's going to be a lot of people that won't feel like switching. There's going to be a ton that do and a ton that never wanted to play Nostralius because of personal feelings regarding private servers, but to point at Nostralius and a reason for why classic WoW will succeed is laughable.
    No, what's laughable is that you and others who spew that nonsense conveniently ignore that there were multiple servers that included expansion content (AKA objectively more content than Nost), but yet Nost remained highly popular.
    highly popular. Lol, okay Frenchie, whatever you say.
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,440
    edited June 2018
    Sephiroso said:
    Sephiroso said:
    Celcius said:
    Galadourn said:

    Sephiroso said:



    After spending a fair amount of time in the BfA beta I could not see going back to such an early version. Been there done that. I am glad the option is coming for those who want it though! Kudos to Blizzard for offering it. 


    Trust me, it ain't gonna be just you. WoW classic is gonna be a ghost town 3 months in.



    I beg to differ; Nostalrius was full all the time, Lightshope too, and it was not due to "rose-colored glasses". Vanilla is not just about completing quests or clearing raids, the community was phenomenal.
    Full being you know, thousands of people, not hundreds of thousands. Those people also didn't pay money to access the game. Let's see how many of them are willing to fork out 15$ a month for the game that will eventually (Right away) no longer provide content updates. ;) 
    No one sees it being niche as a problem (including Blizzard) save for those who choose to do so.  Apparently, for other reasons unrelated to the project itself.

    Thousands of people is plenty enough to populate a classic server.  Consider that games like DAoC are still running on that kind of population, and the doom-calling is inappropriate at this point.

    None of this is contingent on any long term success for classic WoW. Classic WoW won't fail for any reason other than not enough interest past some months in. People bringing up Nostralius conveniently forgetting you can play that for free. There's going to be a lot of people that won't feel like switching. There's going to be a ton that do and a ton that never wanted to play Nostralius because of personal feelings regarding private servers, but to point at Nostralius and a reason for why classic WoW will succeed is laughable.
    No, what's laughable is that you and others who spew that nonsense conveniently ignore that there were multiple servers that included expansion content (AKA objectively more content than Nost), but yet Nost remained highly popular.
    highly popular. Lol, okay Frenchie, whatever you say.
    The very first page to come up when you search for most popular private servers (claiming updated to 2018):

    https://www.dkpminus.com/blog/most-popular-wow-private-server/

    The most popular server, Light's Hope, is still vanilla.  Interestingly enough, there's a inverse correlation to expansions added and average population.

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  • RhoklawRhoklaw Member EpicPosts: 6,271
    Sephiroso said:
    Sephiroso said:
    Celcius said:
    Galadourn said:

    Sephiroso said:



    After spending a fair amount of time in the BfA beta I could not see going back to such an early version. Been there done that. I am glad the option is coming for those who want it though! Kudos to Blizzard for offering it. 


    Trust me, it ain't gonna be just you. WoW classic is gonna be a ghost town 3 months in.



    I beg to differ; Nostalrius was full all the time, Lightshope too, and it was not due to "rose-colored glasses". Vanilla is not just about completing quests or clearing raids, the community was phenomenal.
    Full being you know, thousands of people, not hundreds of thousands. Those people also didn't pay money to access the game. Let's see how many of them are willing to fork out 15$ a month for the game that will eventually (Right away) no longer provide content updates. ;) 
    No one sees it being niche as a problem (including Blizzard) save for those who choose to do so.  Apparently, for other reasons unrelated to the project itself.

    Thousands of people is plenty enough to populate a classic server.  Consider that games like DAoC are still running on that kind of population, and the doom-calling is inappropriate at this point.

    None of this is contingent on any long term success for classic WoW. Classic WoW won't fail for any reason other than not enough interest past some months in. People bringing up Nostralius conveniently forgetting you can play that for free. There's going to be a lot of people that won't feel like switching. There's going to be a ton that do and a ton that never wanted to play Nostralius because of personal feelings regarding private servers, but to point at Nostralius and a reason for why classic WoW will succeed is laughable.
    No, what's laughable is that you and others who spew that nonsense conveniently ignore that there were multiple servers that included expansion content (AKA objectively more content than Nost), but yet Nost remained highly popular.
    highly popular. Lol, okay Frenchie, whatever you say.
    The very first page to come up when you search for most popular private servers (claiming updated to 2018):

    https://www.dkpminus.com/blog/most-popular-wow-private-server/

    The most popular server, Light's Hope, is still vanilla.  Interestingly enough, there's a inverse correlation to expansions added and average population.
    Don't waste your time. Sephiroso still believes the earth is flat. No amount of proof is going to sink into his brain any time soon.
    Zamuro

  • SephirosoSephiroso Member RarePosts: 2,019
    Sephiroso said:
    Sephiroso said:
    Celcius said:
    Galadourn said:

    Sephiroso said:



    After spending a fair amount of time in the BfA beta I could not see going back to such an early version. Been there done that. I am glad the option is coming for those who want it though! Kudos to Blizzard for offering it. 


    Trust me, it ain't gonna be just you. WoW classic is gonna be a ghost town 3 months in.



    I beg to differ; Nostalrius was full all the time, Lightshope too, and it was not due to "rose-colored glasses". Vanilla is not just about completing quests or clearing raids, the community was phenomenal.
    Full being you know, thousands of people, not hundreds of thousands. Those people also didn't pay money to access the game. Let's see how many of them are willing to fork out 15$ a month for the game that will eventually (Right away) no longer provide content updates. ;) 
    No one sees it being niche as a problem (including Blizzard) save for those who choose to do so.  Apparently, for other reasons unrelated to the project itself.

    Thousands of people is plenty enough to populate a classic server.  Consider that games like DAoC are still running on that kind of population, and the doom-calling is inappropriate at this point.

    None of this is contingent on any long term success for classic WoW. Classic WoW won't fail for any reason other than not enough interest past some months in. People bringing up Nostralius conveniently forgetting you can play that for free. There's going to be a lot of people that won't feel like switching. There's going to be a ton that do and a ton that never wanted to play Nostralius because of personal feelings regarding private servers, but to point at Nostralius and a reason for why classic WoW will succeed is laughable.
    No, what's laughable is that you and others who spew that nonsense conveniently ignore that there were multiple servers that included expansion content (AKA objectively more content than Nost), but yet Nost remained highly popular.
    highly popular. Lol, okay Frenchie, whatever you say.
    The very first page to come up when you search for most popular private servers (claiming updated to 2018):

    https://www.dkpminus.com/blog/most-popular-wow-private-server/

    The most popular server, Light's Hope, is still vanilla.  Interestingly enough, there's a inverse correlation to expansions added and average population.
    Question for you, would you say Bless Online is a popular game? It's a legit question and i promise i'll connect my point to it once you answer it.

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  • SephirosoSephiroso Member RarePosts: 2,019
    Rhoklaw said:
    Sephiroso said:
    Sephiroso said:
    Celcius said:
    Galadourn said:

    Sephiroso said:



    After spending a fair amount of time in the BfA beta I could not see going back to such an early version. Been there done that. I am glad the option is coming for those who want it though! Kudos to Blizzard for offering it. 


    Trust me, it ain't gonna be just you. WoW classic is gonna be a ghost town 3 months in.



    I beg to differ; Nostalrius was full all the time, Lightshope too, and it was not due to "rose-colored glasses". Vanilla is not just about completing quests or clearing raids, the community was phenomenal.
    Full being you know, thousands of people, not hundreds of thousands. Those people also didn't pay money to access the game. Let's see how many of them are willing to fork out 15$ a month for the game that will eventually (Right away) no longer provide content updates. ;) 
    No one sees it being niche as a problem (including Blizzard) save for those who choose to do so.  Apparently, for other reasons unrelated to the project itself.

    Thousands of people is plenty enough to populate a classic server.  Consider that games like DAoC are still running on that kind of population, and the doom-calling is inappropriate at this point.

    None of this is contingent on any long term success for classic WoW. Classic WoW won't fail for any reason other than not enough interest past some months in. People bringing up Nostralius conveniently forgetting you can play that for free. There's going to be a lot of people that won't feel like switching. There's going to be a ton that do and a ton that never wanted to play Nostralius because of personal feelings regarding private servers, but to point at Nostralius and a reason for why classic WoW will succeed is laughable.
    No, what's laughable is that you and others who spew that nonsense conveniently ignore that there were multiple servers that included expansion content (AKA objectively more content than Nost), but yet Nost remained highly popular.
    highly popular. Lol, okay Frenchie, whatever you say.
    The very first page to come up when you search for most popular private servers (claiming updated to 2018):

    https://www.dkpminus.com/blog/most-popular-wow-private-server/

    The most popular server, Light's Hope, is still vanilla.  Interestingly enough, there's a inverse correlation to expansions added and average population.
    Don't waste your time. Sephiroso still believes the earth is flat. No amount of proof is going to sink into his brain any time soon.
    You can disagree with me all you want but to put words in my mouth that i never said? I mean, this is mmorpg forums so its not like i expected anything more but still. Sheesh.

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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,440
    edited June 2018
    Sephiroso said:
    Sephiroso said:
    Sephiroso said:
    Celcius said:
    Galadourn said:

    Sephiroso said:



    After spending a fair amount of time in the BfA beta I could not see going back to such an early version. Been there done that. I am glad the option is coming for those who want it though! Kudos to Blizzard for offering it. 


    Trust me, it ain't gonna be just you. WoW classic is gonna be a ghost town 3 months in.



    I beg to differ; Nostalrius was full all the time, Lightshope too, and it was not due to "rose-colored glasses". Vanilla is not just about completing quests or clearing raids, the community was phenomenal.
    Full being you know, thousands of people, not hundreds of thousands. Those people also didn't pay money to access the game. Let's see how many of them are willing to fork out 15$ a month for the game that will eventually (Right away) no longer provide content updates. ;) 
    No one sees it being niche as a problem (including Blizzard) save for those who choose to do so.  Apparently, for other reasons unrelated to the project itself.

    Thousands of people is plenty enough to populate a classic server.  Consider that games like DAoC are still running on that kind of population, and the doom-calling is inappropriate at this point.

    None of this is contingent on any long term success for classic WoW. Classic WoW won't fail for any reason other than not enough interest past some months in. People bringing up Nostralius conveniently forgetting you can play that for free. There's going to be a lot of people that won't feel like switching. There's going to be a ton that do and a ton that never wanted to play Nostralius because of personal feelings regarding private servers, but to point at Nostralius and a reason for why classic WoW will succeed is laughable.
    No, what's laughable is that you and others who spew that nonsense conveniently ignore that there were multiple servers that included expansion content (AKA objectively more content than Nost), but yet Nost remained highly popular.
    highly popular. Lol, okay Frenchie, whatever you say.
    The very first page to come up when you search for most popular private servers (claiming updated to 2018):

    https://www.dkpminus.com/blog/most-popular-wow-private-server/

    The most popular server, Light's Hope, is still vanilla.  Interestingly enough, there's a inverse correlation to expansions added and average population.
    Question for you, would you say Bless Online is a popular game? It's a legit question and i promise i'll connect my point to it once you answer it.
    Bless isn't a 10+ year old (EDIT- typo here that inferred the wrong point) game build's private server.

    Comparing the two in any way is comparing apples from one era to oranges from a later one.  The resources poured into each, comparatively, are vastly different.

    For a new release, Bless isn't very popular.  Largely due to the fact that, less than a month later, the issues cited with it's NA release have caused it to hemorrhage players.  It's currently not much more popular than Light's hope on a daily basis.

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  • RhoklawRhoklaw Member EpicPosts: 6,271
    Sephiroso said:
    Rhoklaw said:
    Sephiroso said:
    Sephiroso said:
    Celcius said:
    Galadourn said:

    Sephiroso said:



    After spending a fair amount of time in the BfA beta I could not see going back to such an early version. Been there done that. I am glad the option is coming for those who want it though! Kudos to Blizzard for offering it. 


    Trust me, it ain't gonna be just you. WoW classic is gonna be a ghost town 3 months in.



    I beg to differ; Nostalrius was full all the time, Lightshope too, and it was not due to "rose-colored glasses". Vanilla is not just about completing quests or clearing raids, the community was phenomenal.
    Full being you know, thousands of people, not hundreds of thousands. Those people also didn't pay money to access the game. Let's see how many of them are willing to fork out 15$ a month for the game that will eventually (Right away) no longer provide content updates. ;) 
    No one sees it being niche as a problem (including Blizzard) save for those who choose to do so.  Apparently, for other reasons unrelated to the project itself.

    Thousands of people is plenty enough to populate a classic server.  Consider that games like DAoC are still running on that kind of population, and the doom-calling is inappropriate at this point.

    None of this is contingent on any long term success for classic WoW. Classic WoW won't fail for any reason other than not enough interest past some months in. People bringing up Nostralius conveniently forgetting you can play that for free. There's going to be a lot of people that won't feel like switching. There's going to be a ton that do and a ton that never wanted to play Nostralius because of personal feelings regarding private servers, but to point at Nostralius and a reason for why classic WoW will succeed is laughable.
    No, what's laughable is that you and others who spew that nonsense conveniently ignore that there were multiple servers that included expansion content (AKA objectively more content than Nost), but yet Nost remained highly popular.
    highly popular. Lol, okay Frenchie, whatever you say.
    The very first page to come up when you search for most popular private servers (claiming updated to 2018):

    https://www.dkpminus.com/blog/most-popular-wow-private-server/

    The most popular server, Light's Hope, is still vanilla.  Interestingly enough, there's a inverse correlation to expansions added and average population.
    Don't waste your time. Sephiroso still believes the earth is flat. No amount of proof is going to sink into his brain any time soon.
    You can disagree with me all you want but to put words in my mouth that i never said? I mean, this is mmorpg forums so its not like i expected anything more but still. Sheesh.
    I was using  well known belief that has had a huge surge in popularity to represent your inability to accept basic logic and facts. There is nothing to prove that a Classic WoW server is going to fail, but rather the opposite.

  • SephirosoSephiroso Member RarePosts: 2,019
    edited June 2018
    Sephiroso said:
    Sephiroso said:
    Sephiroso said:
    Celcius said:
    Galadourn said:

    Sephiroso said:



    After spending a fair amount of time in the BfA beta I could not see going back to such an early version. Been there done that. I am glad the option is coming for those who want it though! Kudos to Blizzard for offering it. 


    Trust me, it ain't gonna be just you. WoW classic is gonna be a ghost town 3 months in.



    I beg to differ; Nostalrius was full all the time, Lightshope too, and it was not due to "rose-colored glasses". Vanilla is not just about completing quests or clearing raids, the community was phenomenal.
    Full being you know, thousands of people, not hundreds of thousands. Those people also didn't pay money to access the game. Let's see how many of them are willing to fork out 15$ a month for the game that will eventually (Right away) no longer provide content updates. ;) 
    No one sees it being niche as a problem (including Blizzard) save for those who choose to do so.  Apparently, for other reasons unrelated to the project itself.

    Thousands of people is plenty enough to populate a classic server.  Consider that games like DAoC are still running on that kind of population, and the doom-calling is inappropriate at this point.

    None of this is contingent on any long term success for classic WoW. Classic WoW won't fail for any reason other than not enough interest past some months in. People bringing up Nostralius conveniently forgetting you can play that for free. There's going to be a lot of people that won't feel like switching. There's going to be a ton that do and a ton that never wanted to play Nostralius because of personal feelings regarding private servers, but to point at Nostralius and a reason for why classic WoW will succeed is laughable.
    No, what's laughable is that you and others who spew that nonsense conveniently ignore that there were multiple servers that included expansion content (AKA objectively more content than Nost), but yet Nost remained highly popular.
    highly popular. Lol, okay Frenchie, whatever you say.
    The very first page to come up when you search for most popular private servers (claiming updated to 2018):

    https://www.dkpminus.com/blog/most-popular-wow-private-server/

    The most popular server, Light's Hope, is still vanilla.  Interestingly enough, there's a inverse correlation to expansions added and average population.
    Question for you, would you say Bless Online is a popular game? It's a legit question and i promise i'll connect my point to it once you answer it.
    Bless isn't a 10+ year old (EDIT- typo here that inferred the wrong point) game build's private server.

    Comparing the two in any way is comparing apples from one era to oranges from a later one.  The resources poured into each, comparatively, are vastly different.

    For a new release, Bless isn't very popular.  Largely due to the fact that, less than a month later, the issues cited with it's NA release have caused it to hemorrhage players.  It's currently not much more popular than Light's hope on a daily basis.
    Even with the fact that Bless wasn't popular, it still has 8-10k people logging in in a 24 hour period. I think everyone knows Bless's days are quite numbered by now. The number 1 private server for vanilla wow only has 3-5k people.

    Do you see my point? Do you really think Blizzard will keep classic WoW going if they only get 3-5k people? Do you see how silly it is to point to a private server and say "look, it can be successful!"?

    People who run private servers aren't companies. They're enthusiasts that aren't looking for success, they don't answer to investors or board members. They don't gotta bring in the bacon. It's not why they do it.

    Which is why i ask, do you really think Blizzard will call it a success if they have 3-5k people playing Classic WoW?

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  • SephirosoSephiroso Member RarePosts: 2,019
    Rhoklaw said:
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    After spending a fair amount of time in the BfA beta I could not see going back to such an early version. Been there done that. I am glad the option is coming for those who want it though! Kudos to Blizzard for offering it. 


    Trust me, it ain't gonna be just you. WoW classic is gonna be a ghost town 3 months in.



    I beg to differ; Nostalrius was full all the time, Lightshope too, and it was not due to "rose-colored glasses". Vanilla is not just about completing quests or clearing raids, the community was phenomenal.
    Full being you know, thousands of people, not hundreds of thousands. Those people also didn't pay money to access the game. Let's see how many of them are willing to fork out 15$ a month for the game that will eventually (Right away) no longer provide content updates. ;) 
    No one sees it being niche as a problem (including Blizzard) save for those who choose to do so.  Apparently, for other reasons unrelated to the project itself.

    Thousands of people is plenty enough to populate a classic server.  Consider that games like DAoC are still running on that kind of population, and the doom-calling is inappropriate at this point.

    None of this is contingent on any long term success for classic WoW. Classic WoW won't fail for any reason other than not enough interest past some months in. People bringing up Nostralius conveniently forgetting you can play that for free. There's going to be a lot of people that won't feel like switching. There's going to be a ton that do and a ton that never wanted to play Nostralius because of personal feelings regarding private servers, but to point at Nostralius and a reason for why classic WoW will succeed is laughable.
    No, what's laughable is that you and others who spew that nonsense conveniently ignore that there were multiple servers that included expansion content (AKA objectively more content than Nost), but yet Nost remained highly popular.
    highly popular. Lol, okay Frenchie, whatever you say.
    The very first page to come up when you search for most popular private servers (claiming updated to 2018):

    https://www.dkpminus.com/blog/most-popular-wow-private-server/

    The most popular server, Light's Hope, is still vanilla.  Interestingly enough, there's a inverse correlation to expansions added and average population.
    Don't waste your time. Sephiroso still believes the earth is flat. No amount of proof is going to sink into his brain any time soon.
    You can disagree with me all you want but to put words in my mouth that i never said? I mean, this is mmorpg forums so its not like i expected anything more but still. Sheesh.
    I was using  well known belief that has had a huge surge in popularity to represent your inability to accept basic logic and facts. There is nothing to prove that a Classic WoW server is going to fail, but rather the opposite.
    There is nothing to prove that it will succeed.

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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,440
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    After spending a fair amount of time in the BfA beta I could not see going back to such an early version. Been there done that. I am glad the option is coming for those who want it though! Kudos to Blizzard for offering it. 


    Trust me, it ain't gonna be just you. WoW classic is gonna be a ghost town 3 months in.



    I beg to differ; Nostalrius was full all the time, Lightshope too, and it was not due to "rose-colored glasses". Vanilla is not just about completing quests or clearing raids, the community was phenomenal.
    Full being you know, thousands of people, not hundreds of thousands. Those people also didn't pay money to access the game. Let's see how many of them are willing to fork out 15$ a month for the game that will eventually (Right away) no longer provide content updates. ;) 
    No one sees it being niche as a problem (including Blizzard) save for those who choose to do so.  Apparently, for other reasons unrelated to the project itself.

    Thousands of people is plenty enough to populate a classic server.  Consider that games like DAoC are still running on that kind of population, and the doom-calling is inappropriate at this point.

    None of this is contingent on any long term success for classic WoW. Classic WoW won't fail for any reason other than not enough interest past some months in. People bringing up Nostralius conveniently forgetting you can play that for free. There's going to be a lot of people that won't feel like switching. There's going to be a ton that do and a ton that never wanted to play Nostralius because of personal feelings regarding private servers, but to point at Nostralius and a reason for why classic WoW will succeed is laughable.
    No, what's laughable is that you and others who spew that nonsense conveniently ignore that there were multiple servers that included expansion content (AKA objectively more content than Nost), but yet Nost remained highly popular.
    highly popular. Lol, okay Frenchie, whatever you say.
    The very first page to come up when you search for most popular private servers (claiming updated to 2018):

    https://www.dkpminus.com/blog/most-popular-wow-private-server/

    The most popular server, Light's Hope, is still vanilla.  Interestingly enough, there's a inverse correlation to expansions added and average population.
    Question for you, would you say Bless Online is a popular game? It's a legit question and i promise i'll connect my point to it once you answer it.
    Bless isn't a 10+ year old (EDIT- typo here that inferred the wrong point) game build's private server.

    Comparing the two in any way is comparing apples from one era to oranges from a later one.  The resources poured into each, comparatively, are vastly different.

    For a new release, Bless isn't very popular.  Largely due to the fact that, less than a month later, the issues cited with it's NA release have caused it to hemorrhage players.  It's currently not much more popular than Light's hope on a daily basis.
    Even with the fact that Bless wasn't popular, it still has 8-10k people logging in in a 24 hour period. I think everyone knows Bless's days are quite numbered by now. The number 1 private server for vanilla wow only has 3-5k people.

    Do you see my point? Do you really think Blizzard will keep classic WoW going if they only get 3-5k people? Do you see how silly it is to point to a private server and say "look, it can be successful!"?

    People who run private servers aren't companies. They're enthusiasts that aren't looking for success, they don't answer to investors or board members. They don't gotta bring in the bacon. It's not why they do it.

    Which is why i ask, do you really think Blizzard will call it a success if they have 3-5k people playing Classic WoW?
    Blizzard rep has already been quoted admitting they don't know what the player interest is, and that it doesn't matter.  I believe the quote went something like "hundreds of thousands, or just hundreds."

    Classic WoW is ultra-likely to surpass the quality of both the private server and Bless.  This is Blizzard, not a group of amatuers.  Even beyond Bless's obvious quality issues, the leveling process was super fast at release due to the damage issue, and there was ZERO endgame content worthy of a gamer's time.  Nome of that holds true for Classic WoW.
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    All this talk of whether Classic World of Warcraft will succeed or not is hilarious.  Blizzard has already stated that the servers will remain running regardless of how many people play it, so in terms of whether it will continue to run or not consider it an automatic success.  Blizzard isn't going to shut it down until the close down all of WoW.  People who think it's going to be shut down after a year or whatever don't know what they're talking about.
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  • SephirosoSephiroso Member RarePosts: 2,019
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    After spending a fair amount of time in the BfA beta I could not see going back to such an early version. Been there done that. I am glad the option is coming for those who want it though! Kudos to Blizzard for offering it. 


    Trust me, it ain't gonna be just you. WoW classic is gonna be a ghost town 3 months in.



    I beg to differ; Nostalrius was full all the time, Lightshope too, and it was not due to "rose-colored glasses". Vanilla is not just about completing quests or clearing raids, the community was phenomenal.
    Full being you know, thousands of people, not hundreds of thousands. Those people also didn't pay money to access the game. Let's see how many of them are willing to fork out 15$ a month for the game that will eventually (Right away) no longer provide content updates. ;) 
    No one sees it being niche as a problem (including Blizzard) save for those who choose to do so.  Apparently, for other reasons unrelated to the project itself.

    Thousands of people is plenty enough to populate a classic server.  Consider that games like DAoC are still running on that kind of population, and the doom-calling is inappropriate at this point.

    None of this is contingent on any long term success for classic WoW. Classic WoW won't fail for any reason other than not enough interest past some months in. People bringing up Nostralius conveniently forgetting you can play that for free. There's going to be a lot of people that won't feel like switching. There's going to be a ton that do and a ton that never wanted to play Nostralius because of personal feelings regarding private servers, but to point at Nostralius and a reason for why classic WoW will succeed is laughable.
    No, what's laughable is that you and others who spew that nonsense conveniently ignore that there were multiple servers that included expansion content (AKA objectively more content than Nost), but yet Nost remained highly popular.
    highly popular. Lol, okay Frenchie, whatever you say.
    The very first page to come up when you search for most popular private servers (claiming updated to 2018):

    https://www.dkpminus.com/blog/most-popular-wow-private-server/

    The most popular server, Light's Hope, is still vanilla.  Interestingly enough, there's a inverse correlation to expansions added and average population.
    Question for you, would you say Bless Online is a popular game? It's a legit question and i promise i'll connect my point to it once you answer it.
    Bless isn't a 10+ year old (EDIT- typo here that inferred the wrong point) game build's private server.

    Comparing the two in any way is comparing apples from one era to oranges from a later one.  The resources poured into each, comparatively, are vastly different.

    For a new release, Bless isn't very popular.  Largely due to the fact that, less than a month later, the issues cited with it's NA release have caused it to hemorrhage players.  It's currently not much more popular than Light's hope on a daily basis.
    Even with the fact that Bless wasn't popular, it still has 8-10k people logging in in a 24 hour period. I think everyone knows Bless's days are quite numbered by now. The number 1 private server for vanilla wow only has 3-5k people.

    Do you see my point? Do you really think Blizzard will keep classic WoW going if they only get 3-5k people? Do you see how silly it is to point to a private server and say "look, it can be successful!"?

    People who run private servers aren't companies. They're enthusiasts that aren't looking for success, they don't answer to investors or board members. They don't gotta bring in the bacon. It's not why they do it.

    Which is why i ask, do you really think Blizzard will call it a success if they have 3-5k people playing Classic WoW?
    Blizzard rep has already been quoted admitting they don't know what the player interest is, and that it doesn't matter.  I believe the quote went something like "hundreds of thousands, or just hundreds."

    Classic WoW is ultra-likely to surpass the quality of both the private server and Bless.  This is Blizzard, not a group of amatuers.  Even beyond Bless's obvious quality issues, the leveling process was super fast at release due to the damage issue, and there was ZERO endgame content worthy of a gamer's time.  Nome of that holds true for Classic WoW.
    I'd be pretty interested in seeing this quote saying they'd keep the servers open even if there were only hundreds of people playing.

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  • SedrynTyrosSedrynTyros Member EpicPosts: 2,924
    Sephiroso said:
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    Celcius said:
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    After spending a fair amount of time in the BfA beta I could not see going back to such an early version. Been there done that. I am glad the option is coming for those who want it though! Kudos to Blizzard for offering it. 


    Trust me, it ain't gonna be just you. WoW classic is gonna be a ghost town 3 months in.



    I beg to differ; Nostalrius was full all the time, Lightshope too, and it was not due to "rose-colored glasses". Vanilla is not just about completing quests or clearing raids, the community was phenomenal.
    Full being you know, thousands of people, not hundreds of thousands. Those people also didn't pay money to access the game. Let's see how many of them are willing to fork out 15$ a month for the game that will eventually (Right away) no longer provide content updates. ;) 
    No one sees it being niche as a problem (including Blizzard) save for those who choose to do so.  Apparently, for other reasons unrelated to the project itself.

    Thousands of people is plenty enough to populate a classic server.  Consider that games like DAoC are still running on that kind of population, and the doom-calling is inappropriate at this point.

    None of this is contingent on any long term success for classic WoW. Classic WoW won't fail for any reason other than not enough interest past some months in. People bringing up Nostralius conveniently forgetting you can play that for free. There's going to be a lot of people that won't feel like switching. There's going to be a ton that do and a ton that never wanted to play Nostralius because of personal feelings regarding private servers, but to point at Nostralius and a reason for why classic WoW will succeed is laughable.
    No, what's laughable is that you and others who spew that nonsense conveniently ignore that there were multiple servers that included expansion content (AKA objectively more content than Nost), but yet Nost remained highly popular.
    highly popular. Lol, okay Frenchie, whatever you say.
    The very first page to come up when you search for most popular private servers (claiming updated to 2018):

    https://www.dkpminus.com/blog/most-popular-wow-private-server/

    The most popular server, Light's Hope, is still vanilla.  Interestingly enough, there's a inverse correlation to expansions added and average population.
    Question for you, would you say Bless Online is a popular game? It's a legit question and i promise i'll connect my point to it once you answer it.
    Bless isn't a 10+ year old (EDIT- typo here that inferred the wrong point) game build's private server.

    Comparing the two in any way is comparing apples from one era to oranges from a later one.  The resources poured into each, comparatively, are vastly different.

    For a new release, Bless isn't very popular.  Largely due to the fact that, less than a month later, the issues cited with it's NA release have caused it to hemorrhage players.  It's currently not much more popular than Light's hope on a daily basis.
    Even with the fact that Bless wasn't popular, it still has 8-10k people logging in in a 24 hour period. I think everyone knows Bless's days are quite numbered by now. The number 1 private server for vanilla wow only has 3-5k people.

    Do you see my point? Do you really think Blizzard will keep classic WoW going if they only get 3-5k people? Do you see how silly it is to point to a private server and say "look, it can be successful!"?

    People who run private servers aren't companies. They're enthusiasts that aren't looking for success, they don't answer to investors or board members. They don't gotta bring in the bacon. It's not why they do it.

    Which is why i ask, do you really think Blizzard will call it a success if they have 3-5k people playing Classic WoW?
    Blizzard rep has already been quoted admitting they don't know what the player interest is, and that it doesn't matter.  I believe the quote went something like "hundreds of thousands, or just hundreds."

    Classic WoW is ultra-likely to surpass the quality of both the private server and Bless.  This is Blizzard, not a group of amatuers.  Even beyond Bless's obvious quality issues, the leveling process was super fast at release due to the damage issue, and there was ZERO endgame content worthy of a gamer's time.  Nome of that holds true for Classic WoW.
    I'd be pretty interested in seeing this quote saying they'd keep the servers open even if there were only hundreds of people playing.
    Yeah.  Okay, here you go:

    https://www.google.com/
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  • SephirosoSephiroso Member RarePosts: 2,019
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    After spending a fair amount of time in the BfA beta I could not see going back to such an early version. Been there done that. I am glad the option is coming for those who want it though! Kudos to Blizzard for offering it. 


    Trust me, it ain't gonna be just you. WoW classic is gonna be a ghost town 3 months in.



    I beg to differ; Nostalrius was full all the time, Lightshope too, and it was not due to "rose-colored glasses". Vanilla is not just about completing quests or clearing raids, the community was phenomenal.
    Full being you know, thousands of people, not hundreds of thousands. Those people also didn't pay money to access the game. Let's see how many of them are willing to fork out 15$ a month for the game that will eventually (Right away) no longer provide content updates. ;) 
    No one sees it being niche as a problem (including Blizzard) save for those who choose to do so.  Apparently, for other reasons unrelated to the project itself.

    Thousands of people is plenty enough to populate a classic server.  Consider that games like DAoC are still running on that kind of population, and the doom-calling is inappropriate at this point.

    None of this is contingent on any long term success for classic WoW. Classic WoW won't fail for any reason other than not enough interest past some months in. People bringing up Nostralius conveniently forgetting you can play that for free. There's going to be a lot of people that won't feel like switching. There's going to be a ton that do and a ton that never wanted to play Nostralius because of personal feelings regarding private servers, but to point at Nostralius and a reason for why classic WoW will succeed is laughable.
    No, what's laughable is that you and others who spew that nonsense conveniently ignore that there were multiple servers that included expansion content (AKA objectively more content than Nost), but yet Nost remained highly popular.
    highly popular. Lol, okay Frenchie, whatever you say.
    The very first page to come up when you search for most popular private servers (claiming updated to 2018):

    https://www.dkpminus.com/blog/most-popular-wow-private-server/

    The most popular server, Light's Hope, is still vanilla.  Interestingly enough, there's a inverse correlation to expansions added and average population.
    Question for you, would you say Bless Online is a popular game? It's a legit question and i promise i'll connect my point to it once you answer it.
    Bless isn't a 10+ year old (EDIT- typo here that inferred the wrong point) game build's private server.

    Comparing the two in any way is comparing apples from one era to oranges from a later one.  The resources poured into each, comparatively, are vastly different.

    For a new release, Bless isn't very popular.  Largely due to the fact that, less than a month later, the issues cited with it's NA release have caused it to hemorrhage players.  It's currently not much more popular than Light's hope on a daily basis.
    Even with the fact that Bless wasn't popular, it still has 8-10k people logging in in a 24 hour period. I think everyone knows Bless's days are quite numbered by now. The number 1 private server for vanilla wow only has 3-5k people.

    Do you see my point? Do you really think Blizzard will keep classic WoW going if they only get 3-5k people? Do you see how silly it is to point to a private server and say "look, it can be successful!"?

    People who run private servers aren't companies. They're enthusiasts that aren't looking for success, they don't answer to investors or board members. They don't gotta bring in the bacon. It's not why they do it.

    Which is why i ask, do you really think Blizzard will call it a success if they have 3-5k people playing Classic WoW?
    Blizzard rep has already been quoted admitting they don't know what the player interest is, and that it doesn't matter.  I believe the quote went something like "hundreds of thousands, or just hundreds."

    Classic WoW is ultra-likely to surpass the quality of both the private server and Bless.  This is Blizzard, not a group of amatuers.  Even beyond Bless's obvious quality issues, the leveling process was super fast at release due to the damage issue, and there was ZERO endgame content worthy of a gamer's time.  Nome of that holds true for Classic WoW.
    I'd be pretty interested in seeing this quote saying they'd keep the servers open even if there were only hundreds of people playing.
    Yeah.  Okay, here you go:

    https://www.google.com/
    That's so helpful. Gonna assume you were lying or taking an actual quote out of context then.

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  • SedrynTyrosSedrynTyros Member EpicPosts: 2,924
    Sephiroso said:
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    After spending a fair amount of time in the BfA beta I could not see going back to such an early version. Been there done that. I am glad the option is coming for those who want it though! Kudos to Blizzard for offering it. 


    Trust me, it ain't gonna be just you. WoW classic is gonna be a ghost town 3 months in.



    I beg to differ; Nostalrius was full all the time, Lightshope too, and it was not due to "rose-colored glasses". Vanilla is not just about completing quests or clearing raids, the community was phenomenal.
    Full being you know, thousands of people, not hundreds of thousands. Those people also didn't pay money to access the game. Let's see how many of them are willing to fork out 15$ a month for the game that will eventually (Right away) no longer provide content updates. ;) 
    No one sees it being niche as a problem (including Blizzard) save for those who choose to do so.  Apparently, for other reasons unrelated to the project itself.

    Thousands of people is plenty enough to populate a classic server.  Consider that games like DAoC are still running on that kind of population, and the doom-calling is inappropriate at this point.

    None of this is contingent on any long term success for classic WoW. Classic WoW won't fail for any reason other than not enough interest past some months in. People bringing up Nostralius conveniently forgetting you can play that for free. There's going to be a lot of people that won't feel like switching. There's going to be a ton that do and a ton that never wanted to play Nostralius because of personal feelings regarding private servers, but to point at Nostralius and a reason for why classic WoW will succeed is laughable.
    No, what's laughable is that you and others who spew that nonsense conveniently ignore that there were multiple servers that included expansion content (AKA objectively more content than Nost), but yet Nost remained highly popular.
    highly popular. Lol, okay Frenchie, whatever you say.
    The very first page to come up when you search for most popular private servers (claiming updated to 2018):

    https://www.dkpminus.com/blog/most-popular-wow-private-server/

    The most popular server, Light's Hope, is still vanilla.  Interestingly enough, there's a inverse correlation to expansions added and average population.
    Question for you, would you say Bless Online is a popular game? It's a legit question and i promise i'll connect my point to it once you answer it.
    Bless isn't a 10+ year old (EDIT- typo here that inferred the wrong point) game build's private server.

    Comparing the two in any way is comparing apples from one era to oranges from a later one.  The resources poured into each, comparatively, are vastly different.

    For a new release, Bless isn't very popular.  Largely due to the fact that, less than a month later, the issues cited with it's NA release have caused it to hemorrhage players.  It's currently not much more popular than Light's hope on a daily basis.
    Even with the fact that Bless wasn't popular, it still has 8-10k people logging in in a 24 hour period. I think everyone knows Bless's days are quite numbered by now. The number 1 private server for vanilla wow only has 3-5k people.

    Do you see my point? Do you really think Blizzard will keep classic WoW going if they only get 3-5k people? Do you see how silly it is to point to a private server and say "look, it can be successful!"?

    People who run private servers aren't companies. They're enthusiasts that aren't looking for success, they don't answer to investors or board members. They don't gotta bring in the bacon. It's not why they do it.

    Which is why i ask, do you really think Blizzard will call it a success if they have 3-5k people playing Classic WoW?
    Blizzard rep has already been quoted admitting they don't know what the player interest is, and that it doesn't matter.  I believe the quote went something like "hundreds of thousands, or just hundreds."

    Classic WoW is ultra-likely to surpass the quality of both the private server and Bless.  This is Blizzard, not a group of amatuers.  Even beyond Bless's obvious quality issues, the leveling process was super fast at release due to the damage issue, and there was ZERO endgame content worthy of a gamer's time.  Nome of that holds true for Classic WoW.
    I'd be pretty interested in seeing this quote saying they'd keep the servers open even if there were only hundreds of people playing.
    Yeah.  Okay, here you go:

    https://www.google.com/
    That's so helpful. Gonna assume you were lying or taking an actual quote out of context then.
    Sure, you can do that, but you'll still be wrong.  If you want to follow news of World of Warcraft Classic and not be wrong, google is your friend.  Every interview in the last eight months is right there on the internets for all to see.  Be informed, or be ignorant; your choice.
  • Soki123Soki123 Member RarePosts: 2,558
    Sephiroso said:
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    After spending a fair amount of time in the BfA beta I could not see going back to such an early version. Been there done that. I am glad the option is coming for those who want it though! Kudos to Blizzard for offering it. 


    Trust me, it ain't gonna be just you. WoW classic is gonna be a ghost town 3 months in.



    I beg to differ; Nostalrius was full all the time, Lightshope too, and it was not due to "rose-colored glasses". Vanilla is not just about completing quests or clearing raids, the community was phenomenal.
    Full being you know, thousands of people, not hundreds of thousands. Those people also didn't pay money to access the game. Let's see how many of them are willing to fork out 15$ a month for the game that will eventually (Right away) no longer provide content updates. ;) 
    No one sees it being niche as a problem (including Blizzard) save for those who choose to do so.  Apparently, for other reasons unrelated to the project itself.

    Thousands of people is plenty enough to populate a classic server.  Consider that games like DAoC are still running on that kind of population, and the doom-calling is inappropriate at this point.

    None of this is contingent on any long term success for classic WoW. Classic WoW won't fail for any reason other than not enough interest past some months in. People bringing up Nostralius conveniently forgetting you can play that for free. There's going to be a lot of people that won't feel like switching. There's going to be a ton that do and a ton that never wanted to play Nostralius because of personal feelings regarding private servers, but to point at Nostralius and a reason for why classic WoW will succeed is laughable.
    No, what's laughable is that you and others who spew that nonsense conveniently ignore that there were multiple servers that included expansion content (AKA objectively more content than Nost), but yet Nost remained highly popular.
    highly popular. Lol, okay Frenchie, whatever you say.
    The very first page to come up when you search for most popular private servers (claiming updated to 2018):

    https://www.dkpminus.com/blog/most-popular-wow-private-server/

    The most popular server, Light's Hope, is still vanilla.  Interestingly enough, there's a inverse correlation to expansions added and average population.
    Question for you, would you say Bless Online is a popular game? It's a legit question and i promise i'll connect my point to it once you answer it.
    Bless isn't a 10+ year old (EDIT- typo here that inferred the wrong point) game build's private server.

    Comparing the two in any way is comparing apples from one era to oranges from a later one.  The resources poured into each, comparatively, are vastly different.

    For a new release, Bless isn't very popular.  Largely due to the fact that, less than a month later, the issues cited with it's NA release have caused it to hemorrhage players.  It's currently not much more popular than Light's hope on a daily basis.
    Even with the fact that Bless wasn't popular, it still has 8-10k people logging in in a 24 hour period. I think everyone knows Bless's days are quite numbered by now. The number 1 private server for vanilla wow only has 3-5k people.

    Do you see my point? Do you really think Blizzard will keep classic WoW going if they only get 3-5k people? Do you see how silly it is to point to a private server and say "look, it can be successful!"?

    People who run private servers aren't companies. They're enthusiasts that aren't looking for success, they don't answer to investors or board members. They don't gotta bring in the bacon. It's not why they do it.

    Which is why i ask, do you really think Blizzard will call it a success if they have 3-5k people playing Classic WoW?
    Blizzard rep has already been quoted admitting they don't know what the player interest is, and that it doesn't matter.  I believe the quote went something like "hundreds of thousands, or just hundreds."

    Classic WoW is ultra-likely to surpass the quality of both the private server and Bless.  This is Blizzard, not a group of amatuers.  Even beyond Bless's obvious quality issues, the leveling process was super fast at release due to the damage issue, and there was ZERO endgame content worthy of a gamer's time.  Nome of that holds true for Classic WoW.
    I'd be pretty interested in seeing this quote saying they'd keep the servers open even if there were only hundreds of people playing.
    Yeah.  Okay, here you go:

    https://www.google.com/
    That's so helpful. Gonna assume you were lying or taking an actual quote out of context then.
    Sure, you can do that, but you'll still be wrong.  If you want to follow news of World of Warcraft Classic and not be wrong, google is your friend.  Every interview in the last eight months is right there on the internets for all to see.  Be informed, or be ignorant; your choice.

    Sorry Seph you re so wrong on this one. Look it up it s not hard. Maybe an app can do it for you.
  • ragebulletragebullet Member UncommonPosts: 34
    vanilla wow servers is definitely viable. the most popular vanilla private server (nostralius) had 800k registered accounts and 150k active accounts. thats a pretty big amount. even if only 50k(even 25k) end up subbing for classic servers thats a decent amount imo.
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,440
    edited June 2018
    Sephiroso said:
    That's so helpful. Gonna assume you were lying or taking an actual quote out of context then.
    "I think there will be a lot of tourists," he adds. "But it doesn’t matter what I think because once we’re committed to doing this at a Blizzard level, which we are, whatever happens is going to happen. If millions of people show up and play for years, that’s awesome. And if just tens of people show up and play for years, we’re fine either way. What’s important to us is that we have this Classic experience people can enjoy, that people do have the opportunity to go back to. This is an important game in videogame history and there’s not a way to go back and experience that today. This is also about preserving something that we think is really important." (Emphasis added by me)

    https://www.pcgamer.com/this-is-how-blizzard-plans-to-finally-bring-back-vanilla-wow-servers/

    Also, another quote of note:

    "Those people don't just want the old gameplay features, they want the constant social connection. And so we can't just support it for a couple of months and then if it's not working out, ditch it. There has to be an assurance that you can build this character, build this guild, build these friendships, and the server will continue."

    https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-11-04-wow-classic-blizzard-answers-some-of-the-big-questions

    To recap: Brack and the team aren't requiring (or expecting) any certain amount of players, and they plan on continuing the server and giving players that assurance that it will continue so no one has any hesitation about starting a character on a server that might be shut down right after.  EDIT- his stance is even more extreme than my paraphrasing.
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  • SephirosoSephiroso Member RarePosts: 2,019
    vanilla wow servers is definitely viable. the most popular vanilla private server (nostralius) had 800k registered accounts and 150k active accounts. thats a pretty big amount. even if only 50k(even 25k) end up subbing for classic servers thats a decent amount imo.
    Oh please. If we give mmo companies shit when they bring out the "registered accounts and active account" bs, what makes you think we should give nostralius a pass for doing it?

    The only thing that matters is how many people are logging in on average to actually play their server.
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