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Game Critic John 'Totalbiscuit' Bain Passes Away - MMORPG.com News

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  • itchmonitchmon Member UncommonPosts: 1,965
    He paved the way for a lot of other commentators.

    He is missed greatly :(

    RIP TB and FU, cancer.
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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,228
    Even in those times when i fully disagreed with his personal opinion i kept watching his videos for his critical views on the gaming industry. That's how insightful his content was.

    Condolences to their family and close friends.
    Rest in Peace, John Bain.
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  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Watched pretty much every Co-optional Podcast, i didn't always agree with him about whether a game was good or not, but at least he was honest in his reviews. Hard to imagine the podcast without him. 
    RIP. Far, far too young to go. :'(

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  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,654
    Not much to say. The gaming community suffers an imense loss. Followed him for years and years and he touched the industry in many ways that most people are not aware. Thanks to people like him and many others critics certain exploitations were exposed - he always fought for the public, the consumers.

    I never had the pleasure to know him and he was not a personal friend, but I'll miss him greatly and my condolences to the family and his friends.

    I'm a better person because of him, and I'll never forget that.
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  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    Honestly I deeply disliked the man, but I certainly never wanted anything like this to happen. My condolences to his friends, family, and fans.
    this tweet by TB himself didn't age well https://i.imgur.com/QPhxQ1R.jpg
    One of many reasons I disliked him... On the plus side, his wife no longer has to worry about him shrieking at her on live stream because she didn't vote the way he wanted her to.
    Yeah, I remember that.



    Here is the Tweet about it that his wife posted  post-meltdown

    TB verbally abused her and had an epic and amazingly hilarious PUBLIC meltdown.
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 27,668
    Honestly I deeply disliked the man, but I certainly never wanted anything like this to happen. My condolences to his friends, family, and fans.
    this tweet by TB himself didn't age well https://i.imgur.com/QPhxQ1R.jpg
    One of many reasons I disliked him... On the plus side, his wife no longer has to worry about him shrieking at her on live stream because she didn't vote the way he wanted her to.
    Yeah, I remember that.



    Here is the Tweet about it that his wife posted  post-meltdown

    TB verbally abused her and had an epic and amazingly hilarious PUBLIC meltdown.
    That's a shame, I never watched a video of his that was anything but professional. Then again, I didn't follow him every day/week.

    Are there any streamers who are actually professional or is the whole activity populated with man/boys or their female equivalent.

    I really hope she didn't put up with that crap.

    Still terrible that someone had to suffer like that.



  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,126
    edited May 2018
    And this is why I wish more people kept their personal lives personal. Deal with the issue with your family and support group, not the world at large. 

    Honestly, these are things none of us had any business knowing unless we had a personal relationship with one or both of them.

    Still, dredging it up now in the face of her beautiful tribute to him is tawdry and inappropriate. I am sure he faced many of his demons as one does when facing catastrophic illness and imminent death, things we are obviously not privy to.

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  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    edited May 2018
    SBFord said:
    And this is why I wish more people kept their thoughts and feelings about politics and their personal lives personal. Deal with the issue with your family and support group, not the world at large. 

    Honestly, these are things none of us had any business knowing unless we had a personal relationship with one or both of them.

    Still, dredging it up now in the face of her beautiful tribute to him is tawdry and inappropriate. I am sure he faced many of his demons as one does when facing catastrophic illness and imminent death, things we are obviously not privy to.

    If I verbally abused my wife, even if it wasnt physical (but actually bullying in the court of law is a punishable sentence in the US, but I dunno how they were off livestreams. If he blew up that much in public, it doesn't take much guessing what their relationship was like in private), and especially if it was public...I'd hope people wouldn't paint me as a saint in death and tell the truth who I really was, warts and all.

    If I was a piece of shit in real life, that is how I expect to be treated in death.

    Just because someone died, doesn't make them suddenly immune to criticism. Otherwise everyone would say every women abuser, murderer and dictator ever in the world were saints just because they died.
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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,126
    edited May 2018
    SBFord said:
    And this is why I wish more people kept their thoughts and feelings about politics and their personal lives personal. Deal with the issue with your family and support group, not the world at large. 

    Honestly, these are things none of us had any business knowing unless we had a personal relationship with one or both of them.

    Still, dredging it up now in the face of her beautiful tribute to him is tawdry and inappropriate. I am sure he faced many of his demons as one does when facing catastrophic illness and imminent death, things we are obviously not privy to.

    If I verbally abused my wife, even if it wasnt physical (but actually bullying in the court of law is a punishable sentence in the US), and especially if it was public...I'd hope people wouldn't paint me as a saint in death and tell the truth who I really was, warts and all. if I was a piece of shit in real life, that is how I expect to be treated in death.

    Just because someone died, doesn't make them suddenly immune to criticism. Otherwise everyone would say every women abuser, murderer and dictator ever in the world were saints just because they died.
    Of course not, but it can wait a day or two? *shrugs* I'm old fashioned that way and hate this virtual exhibitionism that is so rampant any more. He's gone and what's done is done. I believe in endings.
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  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    edited May 2018
    SBFord said:
    SBFord said:
    And this is why I wish more people kept their thoughts and feelings about politics and their personal lives personal. Deal with the issue with your family and support group, not the world at large. 

    Honestly, these are things none of us had any business knowing unless we had a personal relationship with one or both of them.

    Still, dredging it up now in the face of her beautiful tribute to him is tawdry and inappropriate. I am sure he faced many of his demons as one does when facing catastrophic illness and imminent death, things we are obviously not privy to.

    If I verbally abused my wife, even if it wasnt physical (but actually bullying in the court of law is a punishable sentence in the US), and especially if it was public...I'd hope people wouldn't paint me as a saint in death and tell the truth who I really was, warts and all. if I was a piece of shit in real life, that is how I expect to be treated in death.

    Just because someone died, doesn't make them suddenly immune to criticism. Otherwise everyone would say every women abuser, murderer and dictator ever in the world were saints just because they died.
    Of course not, but it can wait a day or two? *shrugs* I'm old fashioned that way and hate this virtual exhibitionism that is so rampant any more.
    Well I added post-edit...but if I treated people badly in real life, and said and did nasty things in public (whether I regretted or not, its out there forever in the world in the new age of internet), I expect to be treated the same in death.

    But in that case...I'd hope I did enough good for people to remember that as well. So on a more positive note. I did TB was amazing game critic and I do think he did a lot of good in the gaming industry, I loved his WTF is... series the best out of them all.

    He never once got bribed to do good reviews or worried much about saying something negative in fear of losing advertisers, he always said the truth about the game...the bad and the good.

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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 5,112
    SBFord said:
    SBFord said:
    And this is why I wish more people kept their thoughts and feelings about politics and their personal lives personal. Deal with the issue with your family and support group, not the world at large. 

    Honestly, these are things none of us had any business knowing unless we had a personal relationship with one or both of them.

    Still, dredging it up now in the face of her beautiful tribute to him is tawdry and inappropriate. I am sure he faced many of his demons as one does when facing catastrophic illness and imminent death, things we are obviously not privy to.

    If I verbally abused my wife, even if it wasnt physical (but actually bullying in the court of law is a punishable sentence in the US), and especially if it was public...I'd hope people wouldn't paint me as a saint in death and tell the truth who I really was, warts and all. if I was a piece of shit in real life, that is how I expect to be treated in death.

    Just because someone died, doesn't make them suddenly immune to criticism. Otherwise everyone would say every women abuser, murderer and dictator ever in the world were saints just because they died.
    Of course not, but it can wait a day or two? *shrugs* I'm old fashioned that way and hate this virtual exhibitionism that is so rampant any more.
    Well I added post-edit...but if I treated people badly in real life, and said and did nasty things in public (whether I regretted or not, its out there forever in the world in the new age of internet), I expect to be treated the same in death.

    But in that case...I'd hope I did enough good for people to remember that as well. So on a more positive note. I did TB was amazing game critic and I do think he did a lot of good in the gaming industry, I loved his WTF is... series the best out of them all.

    He never once got bribed to do good reviews or worried much about saying something negative in fear of losing advertisers, he always said the truth about the game...the bad and the good.
    Keep in mind that you are not Genna and do not have an inside view of their private lives. TB could have been (and probably was) a great husband for the most part. Her tribute to him was not simply fake tears for the sake of pity points, and it would be disgusting to assume otherwise. They fought, as most couples do (even without the knowledge that one of them is slowly dying a horrible, painful death), but they loved each other. 

    We know that TB made occassional mistakes. We also know that he had a degree of mental illness and has been facing possible death (and eventually certain death) since 2014. Can you even imagine how much of a toll that would have upon your mind if you were in his shoes? 

    Also, it is highly inappropriate to compare this man's minor, frankly insignificant transgressions to those of a domestic abuser, murderor, or dictator. 
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  • OrinoriOrinori Member RarePosts: 751
    Was one of the first 'youtuber' game critics that left a mark on me. Had good energy, gave a good contribution and I am sure inspired many in our world. My thoughts are with his family and friends. 
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  • Axllow18Axllow18 Member UncommonPosts: 398
    Gotta say, standing over a man's casket is not the time to remind everyone that he could sometimes be a prick. We may have our opinions on the man, good or bad, but frankly spitting on his grave while the dirt is still fresh is a show of poor taste and character in my book.

    You can talk about murderers, despots, abusers, whatever; but for all we know he was none of those things so at best it's a poor defense of tasteless actions and at worse it demonstrates a very warped idea of civility.

    As to Totalbiscuit; God speed you angry bastard. You will be missed.
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 16,794
    edited May 2018
     I have actually been there for many of his streams,talk shows and game critic is not really that accurate.
    He simply commented on games in both ways good and bad.Even Angry Joe is identical,he is not all critic,he quite often says he loves certain design ideas.
    Imo John seemed a bit more commercialized,like he was being paid sometimes to promote or talk about games.I could say the same about Angry Joe as we,,originally quick to comment on bad designs and payment plans but now more or less also sounds a bit like a paid sponsor.
    I could draw such conclusions based on for example John would have a talk show with 3-4 people but talk about a totally non relevant game,a non popular game or a game that really most never even heard of ,so yeah sometimes seemed sponsored.

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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 16,794
    Even in those times when i fully disagreed with his personal opinion i kept watching his videos for his critical views on the gaming industry. That's how insightful his content was.

    Condolences to their family and close friends.
    Rest in Peace, John Bain.
    I am in the same boat,i don't have to agree with a person to not respect their opinions,i listened/watched  MANY of John's shows.
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  • MisterZebubMisterZebub Member LegendaryPosts: 3,584
    SBFord said:
    SBFord said:
    And this is why I wish more people kept their thoughts and feelings about politics and their personal lives personal. Deal with the issue with your family and support group, not the world at large. 

    Honestly, these are things none of us had any business knowing unless we had a personal relationship with one or both of them.

    Still, dredging it up now in the face of her beautiful tribute to him is tawdry and inappropriate. I am sure he faced many of his demons as one does when facing catastrophic illness and imminent death, things we are obviously not privy to.

    If I verbally abused my wife, even if it wasnt physical (but actually bullying in the court of law is a punishable sentence in the US), and especially if it was public...I'd hope people wouldn't paint me as a saint in death and tell the truth who I really was, warts and all. if I was a piece of shit in real life, that is how I expect to be treated in death.

    Just because someone died, doesn't make them suddenly immune to criticism. Otherwise everyone would say every women abuser, murderer and dictator ever in the world were saints just because they died.
    Of course not, but it can wait a day or two? *shrugs* I'm old fashioned that way and hate this virtual exhibitionism that is so rampant any more. He's gone and what's done is done. I believe in endings.
    Oh well, there's always the fresh pine scent of ignore. o:)
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 12,438
    I do find it astonishing that we are giving the fellow a post mortem (irony unintended) of his entire life and expecting him to uphold every standard we care to throw at him. And on half-baked evidence at that.

    That's the problem with trial by social media, there is no standard of what evidence is acceptable, rarely any character witnesses or witnesses to the facts, no consideration of past convictions or lack of them, no judge and a mob for a jury.
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  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,654
    Scot said:
    I do find it astonishing that we are giving the fellow a post mortem (irony unintended) of his entire life and expecting him to uphold every standard we care to throw at him. And on half-baked evidence at that.

    That's the problem with trial by social media, there is no standard of what evidence is acceptable, rarely any character witnesses or witnesses to the facts, no consideration of past convictions or lack of them, no judge and a mob for a jury.
    well, that's why his comment section on many social medias were turned off and his sub reddit was moderated.

    I just improved my ignore list.
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  • catofmanycatofmany Member UncommonPosts: 30
    I will never wish cancer on anyone, but good riddance to a major gamergater and organizer of harassment mobs. 
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 5,112
    edited May 2018
    catofmany said:
    I will never wish cancer on anyone, but good riddance to a major gamergater and organizer of harassment mobs. 
    Wow. You, and others like you, are absolutely despicable. You are the harassment mob, and by showing such gross disrespect on someone's death, you hurt your own cause. 
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  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 2,944
    Axllow18 said:
    Gotta say, standing over a man's casket is not the time to remind everyone that he could sometimes be a prick. We may have our opinions on the man, good or bad, but frankly spitting on his grave while the dirt is still fresh is a show of poor taste and character in my book.

    You can talk about murderers, despots, abusers, whatever; but for all we know he was none of those things so at best it's a poor defense of tasteless actions and at worse it demonstrates a very warped idea of civility.

    As to Totalbiscuit; God speed you angry bastard. You will be missed.
    Except for the evidence right in front of you.  But sure, lets ignore it to spare people's feelings.  Cause that's what we need more of, caring more about feelings than facts.
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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,228
    edited May 2018
    catofmany said:
    I will never wish cancer on anyone, but good riddance to a major gamergater and organizer of harassment mobs. 
    This comment is probably as equally wrong as if your loved one dies from cancer and i say good riddance to someone who had someone like you as a loved one.

    Clearly you didn't like his content, but at least have the decency of not disrespecting his grieving family by making up baseless nonsense like that.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 5,112
    edited May 2018
    catofmany said:
    I will never wish cancer on anyone, but good riddance to a major gamergater and organizer of harassment mobs. 
    Clearly you didn't like his content, but at least have the decency of not disrespecting his grieving family by making up baseless nonsense like that.
    That's the important thing here. Whether you like or hate John Bain, show some fucking respect for Genna and his other loved ones. 

    The man had his comment sections and social media disabled for the past couple years of his life for a reason. He could no longer take the constant baseless harassment by pieces of shit like those seen above. They've been sending death threats to a cancer patient and his family for years now. And because these people are embarassingly predictable, they instead of being content to quietly celebrate the death of a man who once said something that could be interpreted as slightly unfavorable to them years ago, now publicly spit on his fresh grave. 
  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 3,955
    this tweet by TB himself didn't age well https://i.imgur.com/QPhxQ1R.jpg
    I didn't really follow the guy only watched a few of his videos, probably why I didn't know anything about this til recently. Just goes to show one should be careful what one says in anger. It's kind of ironic that what he said came back to him.
  • cheyanecheyane Member EpicPosts: 6,514
    Social media has allowed absolutely depraved individuals to say whatever they want because of anonymity. I guess the same applies to these forums as is evidenced by certain comments.
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