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Pre-Alpha Equipment & Inventory Exploration - Chronicles of Elyria Videos - MMORPG.com

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  • Ironside81Ironside81 Member UncommonPosts: 13

    Dakeru said:


    So on one hand you agree that this video is not doing the game any favors.

    On the other you feel that people pointing this out are hateful trolls who are conspiring with the mmorpg.com mods against the game?

    Interesting.



    You missed the point.
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Nashville, TNMember LegendaryPosts: 7,762
    Apparently if a moderator doesn't like a game, they choose not to delete posts that are obvious trolling posts or warn the poster(s). Several of these comments do not add anything to the content of the article. If I left some of these comments on a WoW article, I'd have my account suspended/blocked. I also think the type of continued toxicity oozing from this particular community (mmorpg.com) is a defining point to DEVs not to show what they're working on, ever.

    To the point of the CoE article in general, I don't necessarily think they deserve the amount of hate they're getting. Do I think the video deserves a standing ovation? Maybe not, based on your personal belief system towards what an acceptable of pre-alpha is. I do believe the DEVs have worked fairly transparently with the SBS community and in some cases to their own demise. The game's overall selling point from Kickstarter has not been fully unveiled and to some degree, may never be. Videos like this don't always inspire a crowd. The video itself did nothing for the community but show what they're working on in the cubical farm and only generated more questions than answers. To a certain extent, they were maybe better off saving this video until all the UI, inventory management, and equipment were more fleshed out and complete. Coupled with a voice over explaining the overall impact different types on armor have on the character, in explicit detail. What is the big so what to CoE armor? etc.
    Regarding the moderation: you're just, point blank, wrong.  Simple as that.
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  • AnOldFartAnOldFart Member UncommonPosts: 267
    edited May 2018
    snip
    Regarding the moderation: you're just, point blank, wrong.  Simple as that.

    Fancy putting some meaning behind that, what makes your opinion right and his wrong?
    Adding some context to your argument can only ever help your point.

    Dakeru said:
    snip
    So on one hand you agree that this video is not doing the game any favors.

    On the other you feel that people pointing this out are hateful trolls who are conspiring with the mmorpg.com mods against the game?

    Interesting.


    What I believe he is trying to say is that whilst the game has issues, this video and the point in its release being one of them, the hate that it receives is unfair and probably unwarranted. 

    He also points out that elsewhere on these forums(maybe other forums not too sure) this sort of hate would lead to bans, so he infers that either the mods must not like the game.

    Seems quite straight forward to me...
    Post edited by AnOldFart on
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Nashville, TNMember LegendaryPosts: 7,762
    edited May 2018
    And he's just wrong.  The posts you see here are relatively mild.  It's not even close to some of the things we've seen allowed in other sub-forums, such as SC or even AoC.

    But maybe he's right: with such hate-filled propaganda like "Why must this game give me more reasons to make fun of it?" I wonder how the folks sleep at all knowing there's someone who can be so viciously brutal. /sarcasm

    In reality, the responses here have been highly mild, if negative.  His attempts to question mod behavior smacks of victimizing the game in an attempt to disqualify negative reactions.  There's enough of that shit going around in crowdfunding, so let's save it for the real shitheads.
    Post edited by MadFrenchie on
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  • NildenNilden Canada, NBMember EpicPosts: 2,711
    I don't see how anyone could be anything but astounded at this. I mean dragging an item from your inventory to the character screen to equip it. Just bravo. Congratulations are in order for completing what is basic functionality in any RPG.

    I mean what feats of game design do we have in store next? Hotkeys like I for inventory and C for character panel?

    Can't wait...
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  • SephirosoSephiroso Marietta, GAMember RarePosts: 1,995
    This is the game that was supposed to be released last year? Lol.
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  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,654
    AnOldFart said:
    snip
    Regarding the moderation: you're just, point blank, wrong.  Simple as that.

    Fancy putting some meaning behind that, what makes your opinion right and his wrong?
    Adding some context to your argument can only ever help your point.

    Dakeru said:
    snip
    So on one hand you agree that this video is not doing the game any favors.

    On the other you feel that people pointing this out are hateful trolls who are conspiring with the mmorpg.com mods against the game?

    Interesting.


    What I believe he is trying to say is that whilst the game has issues, this video and the point in its release being one of them, the hate that it receives is unfair and probably unwarranted. 

    He also points out that elsewhere on these forums(maybe other forums not too sure) this sort of hate would lead to bans, so he infers that either the mods must not like the game.

    Seems quite straight forward to me...
    Yeah it's pretty straightforward to call the comments here hateful and accuse the mods of being biased.
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  • AnOldFartAnOldFart Member UncommonPosts: 267
    And he's just wrong.  The posts you see here are relatively mild.  It's not even close to some of the things we've seen allowed in other sub-forums, such as SC or even AoC.

    But maybe he's right: with such hate-filled propaganda like "Why must this game give me more reasons to make fun of it?" I wonder how the folks sleep at all knowing there's someone who can be so viciously brutal. /sarcasm

    In reality, the responses here have been highly mild, if negative.  His attempts to question mod behavior smacks of victimizing the game in an attempt to disqualify negative reactions.  There's enough of that shit going around in crowdfunding, so let's save it for the real shitheads.
    Thank you for the clarification I now see what you were getting at.
    (gave you an insightful for updating me on exactly what these forums can be like)

    Dakeru said:
    AnOldFart said:
    snip
    Regarding the moderation: you're just, point blank, wrong.  Simple as that.

    Fancy putting some meaning behind that, what makes your opinion right and his wrong?
    Adding some context to your argument can only ever help your point.

    Dakeru said:
    snip
    So on one hand you agree that this video is not doing the game any favors.

    On the other you feel that people pointing this out are hateful trolls who are conspiring with the mmorpg.com mods against the game?

    Interesting.


    What I believe he is trying to say is that whilst the game has issues, this video and the point in its release being one of them, the hate that it receives is unfair and probably unwarranted. 

    He also points out that elsewhere on these forums(maybe other forums not too sure) this sort of hate would lead to bans, so he infers that either the mods must not like the game.

    Seems quite straight forward to me...
    Yeah it's pretty straightforward to call the comments here hateful and accuse the mods of being biased.
    Well I see your someone who breaks down a full comment and takes the parts you need for you narrative.
    Congrats on being the first person I'm ignoring, I don't need to talk to someone like that.
    MadFrenchie
  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,654
    AnOldFart said:
    Well I see your someone who breaks down a full comment and takes the parts you need for you narrative.
    Congrats on being the first person I'm ignoring, I don't need to talk to someone like that.
    Aww I will miss your valuable unbiased opinion about this project.
    Harbinger of Fools
  • CaptainblackjackCaptainblackjack Member CommonPosts: 7
    Everyone has to start somewhere. I hope the gameplay and mechanics are up to par.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Boca Raton, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 10,245
    edited May 2018
    Edited since Ungood has complained
    Post edited by Slapshot1188 on

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  • AnOldFartAnOldFart Member UncommonPosts: 267
    edited May 2018
    wtf....
    has that really been announced?
    Post edited by AnOldFart on
  • VrikaVrika FinlandMember EpicPosts: 5,258
    AnOldFart said:
    wtf....
    has that really been announced?
    Assuming you asked about the +10% fame title, yes:
      https://chroniclesofelyria.com/news/25973/Kickstarterversary-Community-Award-Tracker
    Kyleran
     
  • AnOldFartAnOldFart Member UncommonPosts: 267
    omg i never even read the fame bonus.

    The title I was fine with but another reward like that is selling this game more and more down the p2w river.
  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 31,768
    edited May 2018
    Moved to KSer anniversary thread.





    Post edited by Kyleran on

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    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing FO76 ATM.

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  • AnOldFartAnOldFart Member UncommonPosts: 267
    Kyleran said:
    Vrika said:
    AnOldFart said:
    wtf....
    has that really been announced?
    Assuming you asked about the +10% fame title, yes:
      https://chroniclesofelyria.com/news/25973/Kickstarterversary-Community-Award-Tracker
    Well, at least its limited to one character per account 

    Also noticed the pack with one "old soul", that is a solid advantage worth having.

    Camping pack looks like it might impart some useful benefits, hard to be sure from the brief descriptions. 

    The store "unlock" tiers are just weird, "if players give us enough money, we'll give them the "priviledge" to buy something else in the store."

    Thank you sir, may I have another?







    To be honest the more "offers" and "special events" they have the more I'm getting disappointed. Whilst I disagree with @Slapshot1188 motives (sorry but I still think you have an ulterior motive) I have to start agreeing with his interpretations of the game and how its p2w.
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Boca Raton, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 10,245
    AnOldFart said:
    Kyleran said:
    Vrika said:
    AnOldFart said:
    wtf....
    has that really been announced?
    Assuming you asked about the +10% fame title, yes:
      https://chroniclesofelyria.com/news/25973/Kickstarterversary-Community-Award-Tracker
    Well, at least its limited to one character per account 

    Also noticed the pack with one "old soul", that is a solid advantage worth having.

    Camping pack looks like it might impart some useful benefits, hard to be sure from the brief descriptions. 

    The store "unlock" tiers are just weird, "if players give us enough money, we'll give them the "priviledge" to buy something else in the store."

    Thank you sir, may I have another?





    To be honest the more "offers" and "special events" they have the more I'm getting disappointed. Whilst I disagree with @Slapshot1188 motives (sorry but I still think you have an ulterior motive) I have to start agreeing with his interpretations of the game and how its p2w.
    No ulterior motive.  I’ve just seen this movie before so I know how it ends.  That’s why I’m a Harbinger.

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 31,768
    edited May 2018
    Moved to KSer anniversary thread.
    Post edited by Kyleran on

    "I should run a marathon backwards. So I could see what second place look like" Royce da 5'9"

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing FO76 ATM.

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    Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™

    "This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon






  • MendelMendel Marietta, GAMember EpicPosts: 2,760
    AnOldFart said:
    omg i never even read the fame bonus.

    The title I was fine with but another reward like that is selling this game more and more down the p2w river.
    It appears to be past the estuary stage and fully afloat on the ocean.  The only real question is if land is still even in sight.

    Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.

  • UngoodUngood Member EpicPosts: 2,098
    Any thoughts on awarding a title to current backers that grants +10% fame?
    The Advantages are just going to keep piling up... and we have a long way to go to launch.
    My thoughts are that this Post is off Topic and Trolling, if want to talk about that, start your own topic on it.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Boca Raton, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 10,245
    edited May 2018


    Whatever
    Post edited by Slapshot1188 on

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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    Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018

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  • UngoodUngood Member EpicPosts: 2,098
    Kyleran said:
    Well in all fairness, they are never going to get this game made without additional funding, which is going to have to come from the backers until some other investor shows up.

    Their post launch business model doesn't include selling these advantages which I feel is a big mistake, but I'm not building this game.

    Take a hard read of the recent Portalarium  public filing for a really insightful look at how it was funded and will continue to be, quite a few good parallels / portents to the possible future for COE.


    Ya know, if he does pull this off, this would be pretty epic.

    As far as the giving those that supported the game a huge advantage, I am fine with that, after all, they paid into the game when there was no game, so they earned it.

    As far as this Topic goes, I like the idea that you need to kneel to do inventory. Adds a nice touch of realism.
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  • AnOldFartAnOldFart Member UncommonPosts: 267
    Ungood said:
    Any thoughts on awarding a title to current backers that grants +10% fame?
    The Advantages are just going to keep piling up... and we have a long way to go to launch.
    My thoughts are that this Post is off Topic and Trolling, if want to talk about that, start your own topic on it.
    I used to think you were a defender of the game now I see what you are and it is in the quote. 
    Slapshot1188
  • UngoodUngood Member EpicPosts: 2,098
    AnOldFart said:
    Ungood said:
    Any thoughts on awarding a title to current backers that grants +10% fame?
    The Advantages are just going to keep piling up... and we have a long way to go to launch.
    My thoughts are that this Post is off Topic and Trolling, if want to talk about that, start your own topic on it.
    I used to think you were a defender of the game now I see what you are and it is in the quote. 
    Let me see, Slapshot makes a totally off topic post, that has absolutely nothing to do with the OP on any level in anyway.. and.. you're defending this kind of derailment? seems legit.
    There is no Truth, only the Illusions we wish to Cling to. Knowing this, why do we all cling to such shitty illusions?
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  • AnOldFartAnOldFart Member UncommonPosts: 267
    edited May 2018
    Ungood said:
    AnOldFart said:
    Ungood said:
    Any thoughts on awarding a title to current backers that grants +10% fame?
    The Advantages are just going to keep piling up... and we have a long way to go to launch.
    My thoughts are that this Post is off Topic and Trolling, if want to talk about that, start your own topic on it.
    I used to think you were a defender of the game now I see what you are and it is in the quote. 
    Let me see, Slapshot makes a totally off topic post, that has absolutely nothing to do with the OP on any level in anyway.. and.. you're defending this kind of derailment? seems legit.
    Actually what I mean by my comment is that it's rich you calling slapshot out on this point when your actually worse...

    But that's off topic so we will leave it there for now.
    Post edited by AnOldFart on
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