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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,189
    Eldurian said:
    Also this has been defined in these arguments more time than I can count but I'll reassert it just incase you've missed it up until now.

    MMO is not a measure of how many people play the game.

    The massive in MMO measures how many players are capable of inhabiting the same area at the same time, as is nearly universally agreed upon by those who care about the term.

    If we say that "massive" applies to the number of people playing the game in separate areas then the term either becomes a synonym for blockbuster, or, it loses all meaning and applies to literally every online multiplayer game ever made.

    Where if you keep the "massive" to mean what it's meant for years now, the term stays meaningful and can actually be used for something.
    I’d say that’s not true.  If there were a space game that had a million simultaneous players but there were spread out across the stars and only 25 were on my planet (but I could travel the stars as well) I would definitely consider that an MMO.

    Different servers is another story, but to me it’s about sharing the same gameworld (universe, shard...) as opposed to all standing in 1 spot.
    Scorchien

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  • EldurianEldurian Member EpicPosts: 2,736
    I’d say that’s not true.  If there were a space game that had a million simultaneous players but there were spread out across the stars and only 25 were on my planet (but I could travel the stars as well) I would definitely consider that an MMO.

    Different servers is another story, but to me it’s about sharing the same gameworld (universe, shard...) as opposed to all standing in 1 spot.
    The key word in what I said is "capable":

    "The massive in MMO measures how many players are capable of inhabiting the same area at the same time, as is nearly universally agreed upon by those who care about the term."

    So there may only be 25 people on your planet, but more of those millions of people could come there if they wanted to.


  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,189
    Again... I would not agree with “at the same time”.   Most games do not allow for mass amounts of people in the same place.  Either they mechanically restrict it via instances or simple lag prevents it.  

    The first game that jumps out at me is EQ2 at launch.  After a certain number of people were in a zone it spawned a clone instance.   The second would be Darkfall where the leader of Hyperion would ask his hundreds of followers to log on when they were under attack, simply to cause the attackers to lag and crash (leading to off hour sieging).

    Both of those games were considered MMOs.   There are plenty of other examples.

    Sure ideally we’d love to have a million players all in the same city. No doubt that I prefer non-instanced games but technology isn’t quite there yet (one reason people are excited for Camelot Unchained is the hope of a few hundred people fighting in the same spot). So to me an MMO is about how many people can play in my shared world as opposed to how many people can be standing in the same area at the same time.

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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  • EldurianEldurian Member EpicPosts: 2,736
    edited June 2018
    In both those instances I think the number of players in the same area still constituted the game being massive. EQ2 I know less well but DFO I personally took part in some pretty big sieges.

    Have a battle of this scale on Destiny:



    This one is perhaps an even better illustration of why Darkfall is an MMO:


  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 7,368
    edited June 2018
    Torval said:
    Eldurian said:
    Torval said:

    The "consensus", 90%, and the rest is stuff you made up and how you feel about it but not factually based truth.
    Actually I didn't make it up. A poll was taken on these forums in which 90% of people agree games like Destiny are not MMOs.
    Yes, and that poll is garbage. We invent facts to support our agenda. If that's all you got out of the last two posts then I have nothing else to add.
      What are the facts invented in that poll Torval, it was a very simple question and folks voiced there opinion , in sorry but you and others that think games like Destiny are MMOs are the extreme minority and the DEv/Pub( As they DO NOT Label Destiny an MMO)   very intentionally ill add,) agree with the community .. The only facts being bent and twisted are on  this site along with  a very small minority trying to push an agenda that will not work , As Dev/Pub continue to push back and label there games correctly .. Its the minority that needs to change...

     And its odd the only folks who criticize the poll again are a very very small minority who are unhappy it didnt go there way , Im certain if it had, there opinion of the poll would be very different and would be holding it up like Galadriels Light ..If the results were nearlyy 5-1 in there favor ..

        In there endless fruitless arguments trying to make it and other like it MMO' s
    Post edited by Scorchien on
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,189
    Eldurian said:
    In both those instances I think the number of players in the same area still constituted the game being massive. EQ2 I know less well but DFO I personally took part in some pretty big sieges.

    Have a battle of this scale on Destiny:



    This one is perhaps an even better illustration of why Darkfall is an MMO:


    I played both.  Both are MMOs... but yes DFO struggled when you had a hundred or more people in the same place at the same time. 

    Again, I simply do not see the "same place at the same time" as being the defining point of an MMO.  To me it's more about sharing the same world with a massive amount of people.   Can a massive amount of people share the same world?  That is what I find as defining it.   Not how many people can simultaneously  be in the same spot.


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  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 6,247
    Again... I would not agree with “at the same time”.   Most games do not allow for mass amounts of people in the same place.  Either they mechanically restrict it via instances or simple lag prevents it.  

    The first game that jumps out at me is EQ2 at launch.  After a certain number of people were in a zone it spawned a clone instance.   The second would be Darkfall where the leader of Hyperion would ask his hundreds of followers to log on when they were under attack, simply to cause the attackers to lag and crash (leading to off hour sieging).

    Both of those games were considered MMOs.   There are plenty of other examples.

    Sure ideally we’d love to have a million players all in the same city. No doubt that I prefer non-instanced games but technology isn’t quite there yet (one reason people are excited for Camelot Unchained is the hope of a few hundred people fighting in the same spot). So to me an MMO is about how many people can play in my shared world as opposed to how many people can be standing in the same area at the same time.
    But there was a specific number of players designated, right?

    - Al

    Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
    - FARGIN_WAR


  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,960
    edited June 2018
    Scorchien said:
    Torval said:
    Eldurian said:
    Torval said:

    The "consensus", 90%, and the rest is stuff you made up and how you feel about it but not factually based truth.
    Actually I didn't make it up. A poll was taken on these forums in which 90% of people agree games like Destiny are not MMOs.
    Yes, and that poll is garbage. We invent facts to support our agenda. If that's all you got out of the last two posts then I have nothing else to add.
      What are the facts invented in that poll Torval, it was a very simple question and folks voiced there opinion , in sorry but you and others that think games like Destiny are MMOs are the extreme minority and the DEv/Pub( As they DO NOT Label Destiny an MMO)   very intentionally ill add,) agree with the community .. The only facts being bent and twisted are on  this site along with  a very small minority trying to push an agenda that will not work , As Dev/Pub continue to push back and label there games correctly .. Its the minority that needs to change...

     And its odd the only folks who criticize the poll again are a very very small minority who are unhappy it didnt go there way , Im certain if it had, there opinion of the poll would be very different and would be holding it up like Galadriels Light ..If the results were nearlyy 5-1 in there favor ..

        In there endless fruitless arguments trying to make it and other like it MMO' s
    Sorry, it's nothing personal. As data, it's garbage. It's not that you can't create a data worthy poll here, I don't think it's possible here period. So, even if your poll was good the results would still be garbage as a data point.

    The invented facts are the conclusions drawn from faulty data analysis.

    I have already addressed most of those other points (including your emotional accusations) in a couple previous posts above if you want to read my thoughts on that.
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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 7,368
    edited June 2018
    Torval said:
    Scorchien said:
    Torval said:
    Eldurian said:
    Torval said:

    The "consensus", 90%, and the rest is stuff you made up and how you feel about it but not factually based truth.
    Actually I didn't make it up. A poll was taken on these forums in which 90% of people agree games like Destiny are not MMOs.
    Yes, and that poll is garbage. We invent facts to support our agenda. If that's all you got out of the last two posts then I have nothing else to add.
      What are the facts invented in that poll Torval, it was a very simple question and folks voiced there opinion , in sorry but you and others that think games like Destiny are MMOs are the extreme minority and the DEv/Pub( As they DO NOT Label Destiny an MMO)   very intentionally ill add,) agree with the community .. The only facts being bent and twisted are on  this site along with  a very small minority trying to push an agenda that will not work , As Dev/Pub continue to push back and label there games correctly .. Its the minority that needs to change...

     And its odd the only folks who criticize the poll again are a very very small minority who are unhappy it didnt go there way , Im certain if it had, there opinion of the poll would be very different and would be holding it up like Galadriels Light ..If the results were nearlyy 5-1 in there favor ..

        In there endless fruitless arguments trying to make it and other like it MMO' s
    Sorry, it's nothing personal. As data, it's garbage. It's not that you can't create a data worthy poll here, I don't think it's possible here period. So, even if your poll was good the results would still be garbage as a data point.

    The invented facts are the conclusions drawn from faulty data analysis.

    I have already addressed most of those other points (including your emotional accusations) in a couple previous posts above if you want to read my thoughts on that.
    LMao ,, nothing emotional.. lol

       The facts are the fcats the communtiy along with ATVI disagree with you and the very small minority that choose to push this agenda ..

     tell ya what


     Why dont you take all your thoughts and send them to ATVI in an email , telling them you think and that they have improperly labeled there game and would like to see it changed .. 
     
      Ill be waiting for the response ..


     But of course that wont happen , and again the minority will think they know better than ATVI how to label there products ........... go figure
       

  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 6,247
    Scorchien said:
    Torval said:
    Scorchien said:
    Torval said:
    Eldurian said:
    Torval said:

    The "consensus", 90%, and the rest is stuff you made up and how you feel about it but not factually based truth.
    Actually I didn't make it up. A poll was taken on these forums in which 90% of people agree games like Destiny are not MMOs.
    Yes, and that poll is garbage. We invent facts to support our agenda. If that's all you got out of the last two posts then I have nothing else to add.
      What are the facts invented in that poll Torval, it was a very simple question and folks voiced there opinion , in sorry but you and others that think games like Destiny are MMOs are the extreme minority and the DEv/Pub( As they DO NOT Label Destiny an MMO)   very intentionally ill add,) agree with the community .. The only facts being bent and twisted are on  this site along with  a very small minority trying to push an agenda that will not work , As Dev/Pub continue to push back and label there games correctly .. Its the minority that needs to change...

     And its odd the only folks who criticize the poll again are a very very small minority who are unhappy it didnt go there way , Im certain if it had, there opinion of the poll would be very different and would be holding it up like Galadriels Light ..If the results were nearlyy 5-1 in there favor ..

        In there endless fruitless arguments trying to make it and other like it MMO' s
    Sorry, it's nothing personal. As data, it's garbage. It's not that you can't create a data worthy poll here, I don't think it's possible here period. So, even if your poll was good the results would still be garbage as a data point.

    The invented facts are the conclusions drawn from faulty data analysis.

    I have already addressed most of those other points (including your emotional accusations) in a couple previous posts above if you want to read my thoughts on that.
    LMao ,, nothing emotional.. lol

       The facts are the fcats the communtiy along with ATVI disagree with you and the very small minority that choose to push this agenda ..

     tell ya what


     Why dont you take all your thoughts and send them to ATVI in an email , telling them you think and that they have improperly labeled there game and would like to see it changed .. 
     
      Ill be waiting for the response ..


     But of course that wont happen , and again the minority will think they know better than ATVI how to label there products ........... go figure
       

    I'm sorry, but @Torval is right. How many people answered your poll (I have not looked it)? How many MMO players are there? Is the percentage acceptable as facts for you? Not me, no how :)

    - Al

    Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
    - FARGIN_WAR


  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 7,368
    edited June 2018
    AlBQuirky said:
    Scorchien said:
    Torval said:
    Scorchien said:
    Torval said:
    Eldurian said:
    Torval said:

    The "consensus", 90%, and the rest is stuff you made up and how you feel about it but not factually based truth.
    Actually I didn't make it up. A poll was taken on these forums in which 90% of people agree games like Destiny are not MMOs.
    Yes, and that poll is garbage. We invent facts to support our agenda. If that's all you got out of the last two posts then I have nothing else to add.
      What are the facts invented in that poll Torval, it was a very simple question and folks voiced there opinion , in sorry but you and others that think games like Destiny are MMOs are the extreme minority and the DEv/Pub( As they DO NOT Label Destiny an MMO)   very intentionally ill add,) agree with the community .. The only facts being bent and twisted are on  this site along with  a very small minority trying to push an agenda that will not work , As Dev/Pub continue to push back and label there games correctly .. Its the minority that needs to change...

     And its odd the only folks who criticize the poll again are a very very small minority who are unhappy it didnt go there way , Im certain if it had, there opinion of the poll would be very different and would be holding it up like Galadriels Light ..If the results were nearlyy 5-1 in there favor ..

        In there endless fruitless arguments trying to make it and other like it MMO' s
    Sorry, it's nothing personal. As data, it's garbage. It's not that you can't create a data worthy poll here, I don't think it's possible here period. So, even if your poll was good the results would still be garbage as a data point.

    The invented facts are the conclusions drawn from faulty data analysis.

    I have already addressed most of those other points (including your emotional accusations) in a couple previous posts above if you want to read my thoughts on that.
    LMao ,, nothing emotional.. lol

       The facts are the fcats the communtiy along with ATVI disagree with you and the very small minority that choose to push this agenda ..

     tell ya what


     Why dont you take all your thoughts and send them to ATVI in an email , telling them you think and that they have improperly labeled there game and would like to see it changed .. 
     
      Ill be waiting for the response ..


     But of course that wont happen , and again the minority will think they know better than ATVI how to label there products ........... go figure
       

    I'm sorry, but @Torval is right. How many people answered your poll (I have not looked it)? How many MMO players are there? Is the percentage acceptable as facts for you? Not me, no how :)
       Ohh my yes Torval is right and ATVI does not know what they are own product is .. lmfao ..aint that rich

      and it was 260 votes at a 5-1 , its not an MMO


      You cannot continue to attempt to push your agenda into the Industry it understands all to well what it is selling and it does not want the MMO moniker attached to its Coop/Multi player games ... It was a well thought out decision on how to label the game , and the correct one

      And . ill tell ya  what , beings you want to hang your hat on data , you know who has data that also weighs heavily on how to Desgin/Advert/Label/Update there games , ATVI , more data than you could collect in your entire life , and there Data influenced there decision on how to label there game..

      And as an Investor in ATVI since 2005 , i trust them completly on how to label and sell there products before ,i would listen to a very small but vocal minority on this site..

     Im pretty sure that ATVI knows what they are doing :wink:
    Post edited by Scorchien on
  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,960
    Don't put words in my mouth just because you're nerd raging and salty @Scorchien. If you need to twist words around do it with someone else. I'm not contradicting "ATVI" :lol: or interested in labeling games with trite little marketing slogans like MMO. I 'm certainly not interested in arguing over something so stupid. I don't care if Destiny is called an mmo or not. Seriously, grow up.

    To repeat what I said before, I avoid the using the term at all because it's distracting to a discussion. It just devolves into semantic posturing where people want to be right more than they want to discuss something. If I'm going to talk about the multiplayer aspect of a game it's more productive to just describe it rather than slap a label on it.

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  • EldurianEldurian Member EpicPosts: 2,736
    edited June 2018
    For now that label still has meaning and those who understand the general sense of what you are saying when you use it. If we entertain the notion that Diablo and DOTA are MMOs then that label will become like RPG where everyone is like

    "A Game isn't an RPG without leveling!" "A game isn't an RPG without a scripted story!" "Oh, the roleplay community is ridiculed and nearly non-existent? The entire game revolves around power leveling and min-maxing? That doesn't make it any less of an RPG. But that game focused on immersion with an active roleplay community still isn't an RPG because it's power gap is too small and the players create their own story."

    Just because half of MMORPG got killed and turned into a useless mean-nothing phrase doesn't mean we should allow it to happen to other half while it still can be prevented. 
    KyleranScorchien
  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 7,368
    Hmm thats a funny approach , because if we even look briefly at your history in this thread alone you are contradicting yourself as you have shown some very strong opinions to the contrary ..

      And i i dont know why you feel the need to start slinging insults around , I didnt insult you , Very unlike you .

       Ill overlook it
  • cheyanecheyane Member EpicPosts: 7,223
    What people adopt is more important than a label. If you lose the fight in the end it won't matter what you call it.
    Martens: "With all due respect, madam, where are you going with this?"
    Avasarala: "Wherever I goddamn like."
  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,115
    Mikeha said:
    Interesting video where Skylent proves that mmo sites now promote almost any type of game for clicks. ;) 



    Quote from the video description,

    "MMObyte, you can do better.  MMOs.com I KNOW you have the passion in you somehwere.  All the rest are probably worthless causes, but I think we can make a change that could ripple out and do a lot of good.

    This is my rant, a bit of drama, and the current MMO press landscape.  I clearly show, that MMO sites are lying to you, clickbaiting for money."



    I BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS ON THIS SITE!!! 
    Anybody here remember when I tried to combat that deception on this site when I came up with the terms Soft Cap Multiplayer Online Game (SCMOG), and Hard Cap Multiplayer Online Game (HCMOG) and the MMORPG.com staff banned me for the use of these terms. 

    One term described Multiplayer games that are built around a Fixed group size, like game like Call of Duty, which may have a fixed 10 people (5v5). That has a direct Hard Cap to the number of players, hence HCMOG.

    Were as a game like Guild Wars 2 has a more flexible cap to the number of players that can play together. It could be 2-100+ Its not at a hard cap. Thats why its a Soft Cap, since all games have a cap of some kind before performance cease to work. hence SCMOG.

    I got the ban hammer for this suggestion. Never forgot that. 

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  • Quizar1973Quizar1973 Member UncommonPosts: 251
    Eldurian said:
    @maskedweasel, @SBFord ;- Look at the top of the page:



    Having a header that says "All MMO Games" over a list that includes Diablo 3, DOTA 2, and Heathstone is very deceptive.

    Like I said. It's fine to adapt. Just be honest about it.
    Thats NOT saying MMORPG is unhonest with there Header.....Saying All MMO Games does mean only MMO games...Thats saying they have ALL mmos on this site....Now if the header said ONLY MMO games then i can see your point....

    maskedweaselAlBQuirky
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  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,115
    On the one hand it's truly sad how much these fake mmo sites have watered down the acronym.

    On the other hand mmo devs have delivered such garbage for the past decade, these sites literally have nothing to talk about. So it's either throw in the towel or pretend Diablo 3 news belongs here until something decent arrives.
    covering Non MMOs is not the problem. IGN.com is a gaming site that covers gaming of all genres. No need to be misleading and calling NON-MMOs, a MMO just to justify covering it. World of Tanks is listed as a MMO and its not. In another thread one of the staff here said pretty much any game can be a MMO if it has Online play. Sounds similar to a article Massively made a few years ago saying anything that was Online was a MMO, including Call of Duty. Thats bad for the real MMO genre of gaming.
    Kyleran

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  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,115
    This all seems like a pointless argument. Out of all the mmo sites that are out there this is HANDS DOWN, the best one, its clean, laid out neatly. The community here for what I have seen is very kind and seems slightly tight. 

    People complaining that D3 is on here and isn't an "MMORPG" yet it is Online, there is alot of people playing it, you do gain levels. So I would say it is Massively multiplayer (Being theres alot of people and you can play it with others) It is online, it is an rpg.....

    Most of all, why is everyone complaining. 
    A lot of people play Candy Crush online. is that also a MMO?

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  • Quizar1973Quizar1973 Member UncommonPosts: 251
    This all seems like a pointless argument. Out of all the mmo sites that are out there this is HANDS DOWN, the best one, its clean, laid out neatly. The community here for what I have seen is very kind and seems slightly tight. 

    People complaining that D3 is on here and isn't an "MMORPG" yet it is Online, there is alot of people playing it, you do gain levels. So I would say it is Massively multiplayer (Being theres alot of people and you can play it with others) It is online, it is an rpg.....

    Most of all, why is everyone complaining. 
    A lot of people play Candy Crush online. is that also a MMO?
    You can play Multiplayer or Co-op on Candy Crush????  LOL....I always thought you played by yourself....LOL
    No one shall Rent space in my head!!!!!  B)
  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,115
    Mardukk said:
    There are so few MMO's being developed or updated that it isn't tough to figure out what is an MMO and what isn't.  You can memorize them easily.  I skip over the non MMO items by using my brain...imagine that.
    Again like said for the 1,000,000,000th time, Nobody has a problem with the site covering NON MMOS!! the Problem is when they mislabel a NON MMO as a MMO when its not a MMO at all!! Calling Call of Duty a MMO because it has Online Multiplayer is just plain old misleading. Covering Call of Duty 999 is not a problem.

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  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,115
    edited June 2018
    This all seems like a pointless argument. Out of all the mmo sites that are out there this is HANDS DOWN, the best one, its clean, laid out neatly. The community here for what I have seen is very kind and seems slightly tight. 

    People complaining that D3 is on here and isn't an "MMORPG" yet it is Online, there is alot of people playing it, you do gain levels. So I would say it is Massively multiplayer (Being theres alot of people and you can play it with others) It is online, it is an rpg.....

    Most of all, why is everyone complaining. 
    A lot of people play Candy Crush online. is that also a MMO?
    You can play Multiplayer or Co-op on Candy Crush????  LOL....I always thought you played by yourself....LOL
    but Thousands of people play it and send each other bonuses and its Online! so its a MMO!!!.....

    edit: forgot my dots

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  • Quizar1973Quizar1973 Member UncommonPosts: 251
    This all seems like a pointless argument. Out of all the mmo sites that are out there this is HANDS DOWN, the best one, its clean, laid out neatly. The community here for what I have seen is very kind and seems slightly tight. 

    People complaining that D3 is on here and isn't an "MMORPG" yet it is Online, there is alot of people playing it, you do gain levels. So I would say it is Massively multiplayer (Being theres alot of people and you can play it with others) It is online, it is an rpg.....

    Most of all, why is everyone complaining. 
    A lot of people play Candy Crush online. is that also a MMO?
    You can play Multiplayer or Co-op on Candy Crush????  LOL....I always thought you played by yourself....LOL
    but Thousands of people play it and send each other bonuses and its Online! so its a MMO!!!.....

    edit: forgot my dots
    But its far from Diablo, Anyway im not one saying Diablo is an MMO....The way i look at it people are arguing the fact of 1 word in MMORPG and that is Massive. Yes Diablo is Multiplayer and yes Diablo is an Online Roleplaying Game.....But the Word Massive is the key word.....The way i see Massive is a game with a Massive World, a Massive enviroment , Or Exploration. IMO Massive does NOT mean how many people play the game. So no i do not beilive Diablo is an MMORPG....
    No one shall Rent space in my head!!!!!  B)
  • Dr_ShivinskiDr_Shivinski Member UncommonPosts: 311
    It's almost amusing how hypercritical my forummates can be of a couple minute details of MMORPG.com 

    Why are you equating a header that hasn't changed in years to "Deception, and misleading"? When they clearly labeled the individual games. Sure they could change the header, but stop making it seem like they were trying to steal your SSID because of it.

    The majority of passing viewers looking for a list probably aren't going to lose their minds over anything on this website other than the fucking forums posts arguing bullshit semantics because someone feels like being a contrary little bitch. 

    I've been lurking here for YEARS and the only loss of quality I've seen is in the discussions on these forums. The staff has continued to grow and get better at what they do, and the only appreciation they get for it from us is a bunch of bitching over nothing. 

    As for what is an MMO, or what isn't. Stop. It honestly doesn't even matter. You know what to look for when it comes to the type of games you want to play, so look for that and stop giving a damn if someone is calling Worms 3d an MMO. It doesn't matter. Half the people in here stoking these arguments are just trolling anyways.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 36,357
    This all seems like a pointless argument. Out of all the mmo sites that are out there this is HANDS DOWN, the best one, its clean, laid out neatly. The community here for what I have seen is very kind and seems slightly tight. 

    People complaining that D3 is on here and isn't an "MMORPG" yet it is Online, there is alot of people playing it, you do gain levels. So I would say it is Massively multiplayer (Being theres alot of people and you can play it with others) It is online, it is an rpg.....

    Most of all, why is everyone complaining. 
    A lot of people play Candy Crush online. is that also a MMO?
    You can play Multiplayer or Co-op on Candy Crush????  LOL....I always thought you played by yourself....LOL
    but Thousands of people play it and send each other bonuses and its Online! so its a MMO!!!.....

    edit: forgot my dots
    But its far from Diablo, Anyway im not one saying Diablo is an MMO....The way i look at it people are arguing the fact of 1 word in MMORPG and that is Massive. Yes Diablo is Multiplayer and yes Diablo is an Online Roleplaying Game.....But the Word Massive is the key word.....The way i see Massive is a game with a Massive World, a Massive enviroment , Or Exploration. IMO Massive does NOT mean how many people play the game. So no i do not beilive Diablo is an MMORPG....
    As is often the case, like many you have mistaken what the first letter represents.

    It is the adjective Massively, not Massive, and it modifies the word Multiplayer.

    It has nothing to do with world size. 


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