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What the hell am I missing here with ESO?

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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 6,278
    Scot said:
    Can someone do a thread about what I am missing with GW2 and BDO? Fed up of this one now.
    I'd say with GW2, the gearing process is "artificial." The tiers only increase numerical values like ESO's upgrading system, not really adding anything unique to say a legendary tiered piece compared to an epic aside from just higher numbers. For me, if there's nothing "exclusive" at the top end content outside of vanity, I have no desire to do it more than once.
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 11,479
    Albatroes said:
    Scot said:
    Can someone do a thread about what I am missing with GW2 and BDO? Fed up of this one now.
    I'd say with GW2, the gearing process is "artificial." The tiers only increase numerical values like ESO's upgrading system, not really adding anything unique to say a legendary tiered piece compared to an epic aside from just higher numbers. For me, if there's nothing "exclusive" at the top end content outside of vanity, I have no desire to do it more than once.
    For me is was cartoony graphics and the quest system where you did not even have to read the quests.

    BDO has a way of luring you in to thinking its not about P2W, then you find to upgrade weapons and armour costs a fortune and you can sell items you bought to other players for in game gold.

    At least ESO has none of those problems which I feel I rather more central to being a good MMO than what has been mentioned in this thread about ESO.
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  • ZigZagsZigZags Member UncommonPosts: 381
    Much of this is due to the Hero Engine, which, at the time ESO was released, was an outdated engine. By today's standards, I dont even want to think about how bad it would feel.

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  • FinvegaFinvega Member UncommonPosts: 145
    Every time I pick the game back up it pleases me.... for a short while. Then I just find myself not logging on anymore. There is something missing from the game for my tastes, though I can't put my finger on it.
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  • GaendricGaendric Member UncommonPosts: 618
    edited July 2018
    To me the game just didn't feel like an MMORPG. I admit I tried it back a long while ago and it probably improved since then, but first impressions do matter.

    It all felt so chunked up, not like an immersive big world you "live" in but more like the world was a flat backdrop for the tightly authored story pieces you were being fed piece by piece.

    The heavyhanded phasing just made this even worse. 
    But I am just generally not a fan of phasing and instancing, so that's on me.
    I just don't buy the whole "look you changed the world" stuff when it's obviously just a facade shown to me and noone else.
    I have read they removed some of it, so at least they are working to improve these things.

    For now it's just not for me, still a well made game though.

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  • BrenelaelBrenelael Member UncommonPosts: 3,821
    edited July 2018
    Well... I'm just the opposite. When this game first released from all that I heard about it I refused to give it a serious look. I had made up my mind that this was not an Elder Scrolls game and I was going to hate it no matter what.

    Then they released the Morrowind expansion...

    This finally caught my eye and made me take a look into the game. I picked it up on sale and gave it a try. I tried very hard to nit pick any flaws I could and hate the game but I found myself playing more and more as time passed.

    Now ESO is my main MMO... I don't even play any others currently... and I love it. Once I got over myself and realized that it's actually a very good MMO I started to really enjoy playing. I play almost every day now and have for over a year now. I tried very hard to hate this game but ended up loving it. Is it perfect? No, not even close but what it does right it does very right.

    Bren
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 12,604
    Brenelael said:
    Well... I'm just the opposite. When this game first released from all that I heard about it I refused to give it a serious look. I had made up my mind that this was not an Elder Scrolls game and I was going to hate it no matter what.

    Then they released the Morrowind expansion...

    This finally caught my eye and made me take a look into the game. I picked it up on sale and gave it a try. I tried very hard to nit pick any flaws I could and hate the game but I found myself playing more and more as time passed.

    Now ESO is my main MMO... I don't even play any others currently... and I love it. Once I got over myself and realized that it's actually a very good MMO I started to really enjoy playing. I play almost every day now and have for over a year now. I tried very hard to hate this game but ended up loving it. Is it perfect? No, not even close but what it does right it does very right.

    Bren
    We all like some things about games more than other things. For me it has always been the build diversity in ESO that hooked me from day one.

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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 5,357
    Tiller said:

    For real, water gun balloon race at the county fair is far more exciting and has more tactile feedback then this games combat does. 

    County Fair FTW. 
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  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,010
    edited July 2018
    Iselin said:
    Brenelael said:
    Well... I'm just the opposite. When this game first released from all that I heard about it I refused to give it a serious look. I had made up my mind that this was not an Elder Scrolls game and I was going to hate it no matter what.

    Then they released the Morrowind expansion...

    This finally caught my eye and made me take a look into the game. I picked it up on sale and gave it a try. I tried very hard to nit pick any flaws I could and hate the game but I found myself playing more and more as time passed.

    Now ESO is my main MMO... I don't even play any others currently... and I love it. Once I got over myself and realized that it's actually a very good MMO I started to really enjoy playing. I play almost every day now and have for over a year now. I tried very hard to hate this game but ended up loving it. Is it perfect? No, not even close but what it does right it does very right.

    Bren
    We all like some things about games more than other things. For me it has always been the build diversity in ESO that hooked me from day one.

    I have five different skill sets I use depending on the situation on my nightblade, not to mention the individual skills I swap on the fly. The amount of character customization freedom is only rivaled by games like UO or AC1. It's "be what you want to be" instead of "be what your class is".
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  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 7,711
    Brenelael said:
    Well... I'm just the opposite. When this game first released from all that I heard about it I refused to give it a serious look. I had made up my mind that this was not an Elder Scrolls game and I was going to hate it no matter what.

    Then they released the Morrowind expansion...

    This finally caught my eye and made me take a look into the game. I picked it up on sale and gave it a try. I tried very hard to nit pick any flaws I could and hate the game but I found myself playing more and more as time passed.

    Now ESO is my main MMO... I don't even play any others currently... and I love it. Once I got over myself and realized that it's actually a very good MMO I started to really enjoy playing. I play almost every day now and have for over a year now. I tried very hard to hate this game but ended up loving it. Is it perfect? No, not even close but what it does right it does very right.

    Bren
    Yeah I pretty much feel the same way. I made a new character and tried again, now it's pretty much my main MMO.


  • BrenelaelBrenelael Member UncommonPosts: 3,821
    edited July 2018
    Iselin said:
    Brenelael said:
    Well... I'm just the opposite. When this game first released from all that I heard about it I refused to give it a serious look. I had made up my mind that this was not an Elder Scrolls game and I was going to hate it no matter what.

    Then they released the Morrowind expansion...

    This finally caught my eye and made me take a look into the game. I picked it up on sale and gave it a try. I tried very hard to nit pick any flaws I could and hate the game but I found myself playing more and more as time passed.

    Now ESO is my main MMO... I don't even play any others currently... and I love it. Once I got over myself and realized that it's actually a very good MMO I started to really enjoy playing. I play almost every day now and have for over a year now. I tried very hard to hate this game but ended up loving it. Is it perfect? No, not even close but what it does right it does very right.

    Bren
    We all like some things about games more than other things. For me it has always been the build diversity in ESO that hooked me from day one.

    I love the Build Diversity as well. Another thing that this game does exceptionally well is the "organic" grouping. The way that a group of players can just come together to overcome a World Boss, Public Dungeon or Dolmen drop and work together as a team even though they are not even partied. This is something remarkable that I've never seen in any other MMO. It also breeds a more positive and helpful community than I've seen in any MMO in a very long time.

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  • GorweGorwe Member EpicPosts: 5,998
    edited July 2018
    I'll just say, again and again, that it is a very good game, it's just that I don't really get it. Maybe one day I will. It's not going anywhere soon and it's only getting better by the DLC.
  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,010
    edited July 2018
    Brenelael said:
    Iselin said:
    Brenelael said:
    Well... I'm just the opposite. When this game first released from all that I heard about it I refused to give it a serious look. I had made up my mind that this was not an Elder Scrolls game and I was going to hate it no matter what.

    Then they released the Morrowind expansion...

    This finally caught my eye and made me take a look into the game. I picked it up on sale and gave it a try. I tried very hard to nit pick any flaws I could and hate the game but I found myself playing more and more as time passed.

    Now ESO is my main MMO... I don't even play any others currently... and I love it. Once I got over myself and realized that it's actually a very good MMO I started to really enjoy playing. I play almost every day now and have for over a year now. I tried very hard to hate this game but ended up loving it. Is it perfect? No, not even close but what it does right it does very right.

    Bren
    We all like some things about games more than other things. For me it has always been the build diversity in ESO that hooked me from day one.

    I love the Build Diversity as well. Another thing that this game does exceptionally well is the "organic" grouping. The way that a group of players can just come together to overcome a World Boss, Public Dungeon or Dolmen drop and work together as a team even though they are not even partied. This is something remarkable that I've never seen in any other MMO. It also breeds a more positive and helpful community than I've seen in any MMO in a very long time.

    Bren
    You have that "organic" grouping in Guild Wars 2 too.

    You even have it in WoW now since Legion (Blizzard was always good at copying the best features of other games).
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  • DarkswormDarksworm Member RarePosts: 987
    Tsiya said:
    I've tried so many times to like the game myself. After an hour or so I log out and it'll be another 5-6 months before I try again for another hour. Just doesn't click with me.
    Tsiya said:
    I've tried so many times to like the game myself. After an hour or so I log out and it'll be another 5-6 months before I try again for another hour. Just doesn't click with me.

    Agree.  I think it just feels like a disposable indie game, to me - like something that is just there to sink time and get you to buy more stuff, with very little attention paid to delivering actual entertainment.

    This makes it feel like an utter waste of time, which is off-putting and really prevents you from "liking it," because you always have in the back of your mind that you are wasting a limited resource on something that isn't delivering any fun.

    Also, I really, really hate the limited skill bars and weapon swapping - which feels awful when you only have 5 skills on your bar (compared to something like Guild Wars 2, for example).  I'd rather just have one weapon and double the skill slots.  GW2 does this so much better than ESO, and ESO is a newer game, so there is no excuse for delivering a worse experience there...

    The PvP that I experienced was pretty awful, as well.  A lot of the content also feels incredibly compartmentalized.  Once you finish it, it just dies...  And then you go and find something else to do.  There is not enough continuity.

    The main story was a decent playthrough, so I did at least that so that I could get at least "Single Player RPG" value out of the game... but I think something like Witcher III (base game) delivered a lot more than ESO's main story line (unsurprisingly).

    The game feels/plays better on console than on PC, but I'm not going to invest such huge amounts of money in a subscription or truckload of DLC for a console game... because of Console lifecycles and the fact that Open Mics and clunky console controls (when you wan to play and chat at the same time) are just not tolerable for me.
  • DarkswormDarksworm Member RarePosts: 987
    i dont have any goals or objectives
    Well, in ESO, you have tons of objectives but you have to set them for yourself. If your only goal is a higher gearscore, WoW is definitely a better choice.
    "If your only goal is grinding out a bad rip-off of EverQuest's Alternate Advancement points, then ESO is definitely a better choice."

    See what I did there.

    Try not to be disingenuous.

    CPs are basically grinded out and put on at the same status as Item Levels in WoW, except they are far less exciting.  They're also almost completely passive... so you don't really feel anything other than power creep.

    It's literally one of the worst AA systems I've ever seen put in an MMORPG.
  • SaunZSaunZ Member UncommonPosts: 465
    lol and yet so many of us LOVE ESO... and have you seen their numbers?

    i'm glad it is doing so good and I love that it isn't all cartoony like GW2 and WoW.

    I know, I know... to each our own... but it is so nice that ESO is doing so good and that the pve and pvp are both thriving.  cryodiil is a blast and always tons of action going on in a few of the campaigns.


    ESO is pretty much the best mmorpg around right now... yeah!


    Sz  :)



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  • SaunZSaunZ Member UncommonPosts: 465
    btw... when peepz state their subjective opinions as fact, which is a massive amount here on mmorpg.com, it cracks me up and drives me to state my obviously factual opinions.

    it is so weird how God blessed me with such factual opinions!

    Sz  :)
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  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 7,711
    SaunZ said:
    btw... when peepz state their subjective opinions as fact, which is a massive amount here on mmorpg.com, it cracks me up and drives me to state my obviously factual opinions.

    it is so weird how God blessed me with such factual opinions!

    Sz  :)
    Three things to note here......

    1. Why did you necro a necro? This thread should've died long ago.

    2. Did you actually read the entire thread? Or did you just read the title???? You might have noticed I gave ESO another chance and ended up sticking with it after pages of discussion.

    3. Your self compliment just made you look like a weirdo, don't do that.


  • SaunZSaunZ Member UncommonPosts: 465
    Tiller said:
    SaunZ said:
    btw... when peepz state their subjective opinions as fact, which is a massive amount here on mmorpg.com, it cracks me up and drives me to state my obviously factual opinions.

    it is so weird how God blessed me with such factual opinions!

    Sz  :)
    Three things to note here......

    1. Why did you necro a necro? This thread should've died long ago.

    2. Did you actually read the entire thread? Or did you just read the title???? You might have noticed I gave ESO another chance and ended up sticking with it after pages of discussion.

    3. Your self compliment just made you look like a weirdo, don't do that.
    i see your confusion and it is my fault.  i wasn't talking to you, i was talking to the guy above me.  i didn't use quotes though so some how you though i was talking to your old original post... my bad.

    i showed the different comments you have left me lately, in the different forums here, to my social counselor and he said that it is an obvious case of a socially awkward person trying to hit on me.

    even though i am very flattered, i am already claimed.  again i apologize for you thinking i was commenting to you.

    4give me,
    Sz  :)
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  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 7,711
    SaunZ said:
    Tiller said:
    SaunZ said:
    btw... when peepz state their subjective opinions as fact, which is a massive amount here on mmorpg.com, it cracks me up and drives me to state my obviously factual opinions.

    it is so weird how God blessed me with such factual opinions!

    Sz  :)
    Three things to note here......

    1. Why did you necro a necro? This thread should've died long ago.

    2. Did you actually read the entire thread? Or did you just read the title???? You might have noticed I gave ESO another chance and ended up sticking with it after pages of discussion.

    3. Your self compliment just made you look like a weirdo, don't do that.
    i see your confusion and it is my fault.  i wasn't talking to you, i was talking to the guy above me.  i didn't use quotes though so some how you though i was talking to your old original post... my bad.

    i showed the different comments you have left me lately, in the different forums here, to my social counselor and he said that it is an obvious case of a socially awkward person trying to hit on me.

    even though i am very flattered, i am already claimed.  again i apologize for you thinking i was commenting to you.

    4give me,
    Sz  :)
    lmao, I'm a little to married and old for all that. Socially awkward? maybe idk, at my age I guess I don't really care anymore. The person above you is none other than you BTW. So where you replying to yourself, or someone way above? I'm confused. I figured your post was another one of those posts coming at me over the OP not realizing that the discussion had been resolved like a few others who have replied to this old thread. So if that wasn't the case then sorry.  I love this game and play daily, not here to attack it, but I can also see it's flaws.


  • SaunZSaunZ Member UncommonPosts: 465
    Tiller said:
    SaunZ said:
    Tiller said:
    SaunZ said:
    btw... when peepz state their subjective opinions as fact, which is a massive amount here on mmorpg.com, it cracks me up and drives me to state my obviously factual opinions.

    it is so weird how God blessed me with such factual opinions!

    Sz  :)
    Three things to note here......

    1. Why did you necro a necro? This thread should've died long ago.

    2. Did you actually read the entire thread? Or did you just read the title???? You might have noticed I gave ESO another chance and ended up sticking with it after pages of discussion.

    3. Your self compliment just made you look like a weirdo, don't do that.
    i see your confusion and it is my fault.  i wasn't talking to you, i was talking to the guy above me.  i didn't use quotes though so some how you though i was talking to your old original post... my bad.

    i showed the different comments you have left me lately, in the different forums here, to my social counselor and he said that it is an obvious case of a socially awkward person trying to hit on me.

    even though i am very flattered, i am already claimed.  again i apologize for you thinking i was commenting to you.

    4give me,
    Sz  :)
    lmao, I'm a little to married and old for all that. Socially awkward? maybe idk, at my age I guess I don't really care anymore. The person above you is none other than you BTW. So where you replying to yourself, or someone way above? I'm confused. I figured your post was another one of those posts coming at me over the OP not realizing that the discussion had been resolved like a few others who have replied to this old thread. So if that wasn't the case then sorry.  I love this game and play daily, not here to attack it, but I can also see it's flaws.

    yeah, it is GREAT to see you in a good mood!  I too see ESO's flaws.  I complain about loading screens and... well... loading screens.  but, I love playing ESO and I love the ESO community.  I am in an awesome PvE guild and in an awesome PvP guild and in an awesome Trader guild... even in /zone chat I find the community very friendly and helpful.

    but if I find you in Cryodiil I will gank you   :)

    Sz  :)
  • JumpmanLaneJumpmanLane Newbie CommonPosts: 1
    If you’re on pc you’re playing like a noob. You’re supposed to be animation canceling lol. And use addons geeze
  • LimnicLimnic Member RarePosts: 1,012
    Was this really necroed by a throwaway account just for the sake of a random jab?
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  • gunklackergunklacker Member UncommonPosts: 224
    SaunZ said:
    lol and yet so many of us LOVE ESO... and have you seen their numbers?

    i'm glad it is doing so good and I love that it isn't all cartoony like GW2 and WoW.

    I know, I know... to each our own... but it is so nice that ESO is doing so good and that the pve and pvp are both thriving.  cryodiil is a blast and always tons of action going on in a few of the campaigns.


    ESO is pretty much the best mmorpg around right now... yeah!


    Sz  :)



    Think this is a TROLL....
  • gunklackergunklacker Member UncommonPosts: 224
    talking about Cyrodiil PvP , as much as GW2 pvp get bashed its 100's of times better then Cyrodiil PvP  crapper dumpster fire
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