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CoE under serious and extended DDOS attack...

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  • SiveriaSiveria Member UncommonPosts: 1,411
    edited April 2018
    I usually never back games like this, as I expect them to fail as they usually do, I will try it when it comes out though if it ever does. But I am very hesitant to back something like this unless I get something in my hands right away I can play, like steams early access program. At least if it goes under by the time it does I most likely got my playtime out of it.

    Will admit I am not a big fan of their pay per character system, especally when we know there is going to be a pay2win cash shop on top of it. Don't even try to deny it, you know its going to be there :expressionless:

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    A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

    or

    B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)

    Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!

  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,437
    Lokero said:
    Lokero said:
    I never did understand why anyone would bother doing this to something as pointless and insignificant as a video game.   But, it seems to happen all the time to the gaming industry.

    I mean, it just makes no sense.
    Also, I don't know why a "backer" would do it, unless they got banned from the forums or something.  That would be fairly counterproductive.  Unless, like Kyleran mentioned, someone got refused a refund, perhaps.
    But at that point DDOSing costs quite a bit, you are spending probably way more than your pledge to make a point? That would be weird and pointless too. 
    Certainly, that's how I'd see it... But, I could definitely picture someone being refused a refund and then blowing more money just to attack them out of spite.  Obviously, people today have more anger than good sense.
    Well, that's the thing with emotions, you see - they don't rely on reason.
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  • GaladournGaladourn Member RarePosts: 1,802
    disgruntled backer(s)?
  • OrangeBoyOrangeBoy Member UncommonPosts: 167
    maybe the DDoS was from Caspian himself
    NeutralEvil
  • AnOldFartAnOldFart Member UncommonPosts: 475
    edited April 2018
    @Siveria its my understanding they are going to close the cashshop on launch.
    I am like you though I won't pay until it's released
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 33,936
    Any improvement on this situation? 

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    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing POE at the moment.

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,054
    I believe you can access the site but cannot log in.  If you are already logged in you are fine.

    Already talk of fundraising off it...

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  • NeutralEvilNeutralEvil Member UncommonPosts: 108

    I just tested it out and was able to login

    After signing in it took me to their main homepage that still had the "login" option, but if I selected any of their tabs to go to the Forums for instance, it does show me as logged in

  • DXSinsDXSins Member UncommonPosts: 315
    So what is the problem again? Afar as i understand there is no even a small playable game atm, right? Why don't the devs take this as an opportunity to focus down on developing something to show backers once the dust has settled? Use discord/twitter/fb if they need to provide any updates.

    Or is the cash shop/website that big of deal for them, are they actually actively pulling in money from them (aka like Star Citizen)? is the studio going to shutdown due to their website being offline?  

    It just seems the studio should have much bigger priorities right now than maintaining their website, no?
  • SiveriaSiveria Member UncommonPosts: 1,411
    AnOldFart said:
    @Siveria its my understanding they are going to close the cashshop on launch.
    I am like you though I won't pay until it's released
    Yeah I honestly don't see that happening, as a cash shop in a game is bascally free money for the devs from people, its most likely going to stay. I don't care what they say, for now they are just saying its going to be removed to shut people up, but watch, its more than likely still going to be there at launch, maybe tweaked a bit, but it'll still be there. I don't mind if its there as long as there is no pay2win stuff like gear and such in it, cosmetics with no stats that don't drop on death, and get autobanked if your chars lifespan ends so you can use it on the next one is fine with me. But I don't wanna see anything like resources or anything of the sort on there.
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    Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:

    A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

    or

    B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)

    Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 20,983
    The real fix to DDOS is called prison time.  Easier said than done, however.
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  • DleatherusDleatherus Member UncommonPosts: 162
    edited April 2018
    I believe you can access the site but cannot log in.  If you are already logged in you are fine.

    Already talk of fundraising off it...
    the only comments about fundraising about the DDoS that I have seen has been from the community and not the studio

    wanted to make that clear since readers not aware of that might misinterpret your words along the lines of the studio taking this as an advantage to request more more money from the community vs. some in the community showing their support and understanding and making the suggestion

    big difference between the two

    nonetheless the money to cover the additional expenses for countering DD0S's in the future need to be covered, and it is a crowd funded project

    no doubt some will see and twist this as fools throwing their money away

    others see it as recognizing the reality of the situation 
    mystichazeAnOldFart
  • Tiamat64Tiamat64 Member RarePosts: 1,522
    DDoSing a game that doesn't even have a decent estimated release or an alpha yet (and according to some, me included, will probably never come out anyways)... some trolls really need to find better things to do with their lives.
    NeutralEvilAnOldFart
  • orionblade11orionblade11 Member CommonPosts: 5
    I just don't understand the mentality of wanting to make others suffer.   It a sad part of MMO games and most of us have been impacted by it in some way.
    NeutralEvil
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 33,936
    I just don't understand the mentality of wanting to make others suffer.   It a sad part of MMO games and most of us have been impacted by it in some way.
    Wait, making others suffer is the mentality of the typical MMORPG PVP griefer or ganker, they are "roleplaying" or something right?
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    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing POE at the moment.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 33,936
    edited April 2018
    Tiamat64 said:
    DDoSing a game that doesn't even have a decent estimated release or an alpha yet (and according to some, me included, will probably never come out anyways)... some trolls really need to find better things to do with their lives.
    As this studio "needs" continuing funding from its store if it ever hopes to deliver, perhaps this "is" an attempt to stop the game after all, and not just to cause pain.

    (Wearing my tin foil hat today)

    ;)

    NeutralEvil

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    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing POE at the moment.

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  • DleatherusDleatherus Member UncommonPosts: 162
    could even be a harbinger lol
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,054
    I believe you can access the site but cannot log in.  If you are already logged in you are fine.

    Already talk of fundraising off it...
    the only comments about fundraising about the DDoS that I have seen has been from the community and not the studio

    wanted to make that clear since readers not aware of that might misinterpret your words along the lines of the studio taking this as an advantage to request more more money from the community vs. some in the community showing their support and understanding and making the suggestion

    big difference between the two

    nonetheless the money to cover the additional expenses for countering DD0S's in the future need to be covered, and it is a crowd funded project

    no doubt some will see and twist this as fools throwing their money away

    others see it as recognizing the reality of the situation 
    Actually my recollection is one person in Discord mentioned it and Caspien jumped in with something along the lines of: We never thought about that but I’ll discuss with the team

    He was even making suggestions on silly Store items to sell.

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,054
    edited April 2018

    could even be a harbinger lol
    could even be a harbinger lol
    Or the number one Backer who already proved to be a troll and shocked Caspien during name selection...
    NeutralEvilDakeru

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    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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  • DleatherusDleatherus Member UncommonPosts: 162
    could well be - i don't watch or monitor the CoE discord that much, and tend to stick to the CoE forums

    as i mentioned, it's a reality that will need to be addressed, costs funds, and atm this is a crowd funded project, so Caspian replying to a member of the community initiating the discussion isn't surprising to me


  • DleatherusDleatherus Member UncommonPosts: 162
    edited April 2018

    could even be a harbinger lol
    could even be a harbinger lol
    Or the number one Backer who already pregnant bed to be a troll and shocked Caspien during name selection...
    i think i understand what you were saying there

    could be - speculation is just that, speculation

    fake/distorted/not-all-the-truth news is very prevalent these days

    Edited to add:

    fake news etc has always been a part human nature - it used to be called gossiping when on one level, propaganda on another, and even advertising on another level

    it's just far more easily disseminated these days would be more accurate
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,054

    could even be a harbinger lol
    could even be a harbinger lol
    Or the number one Backer who already pregnant bed to be a troll and shocked Caspien during name selection...
    i think i understand what you were saying there

    could be - speculation is just that, speculation

    fake/distorted/not-all-the-truth news is very prevalent these days
    I edited it.  Phone took proved to be and made it pregnant bed...

    Whoever it is that did this should be arrested.  Doubt it will happen... but it should.
    NeutralEvilAnOldFartKyleran

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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  • OrangeBoyOrangeBoy Member UncommonPosts: 167
    I found this funny, cause the post from Caspian made it sound like they were DDoSing because of their magnificent tribes design journals

    Also, how can you not anticipate DDoSing in 2018?
  • JeffSpicoliJeffSpicoli Member EpicPosts: 2,849
    AnOldFart said:
    Get no argument from me there, I would guess it's people with a micropen*** who do things like this because they think it makes them look like a man
    I resent your bigoted hate filled judgmental accusation of those of us suffering from micropenis syndrome!!! Sorry im still fired up from the "Blizzard Toxic players and Ai Mod thread"
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,054
    OrangeBoy said:
    I found this funny, cause the post from Caspian made it sound like they were DDoSing because of their magnificent tribes design journals

    Also, how can you not anticipate DDoSing in 2018?
    As I said above.  He is naive.  
    Wait until you see the new design journal on crafting they should publish today.  All dreams about making you actually turn into a blacksmith and perform all the actions.  No connection to reality...

    ...but makes a nice story.
    Kyleran

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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    Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018

    "Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018

    My ignore list finally has one occupant after 12 years. I am the strongest supporter of free speech on here, but free speech does not mean forced listening. Have fun my friend. Hope you find a new stalking target.

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