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Another lawsuit but this time it is personal

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  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,229
    edited January 2018
    >>>>>
    PS. Just read the Youtube comments and I find it funny (in a sad way) that not a single person defending CIG can do so without having normal people go 'WTF is wrong with you?!' to them.
    >>>>>

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    God some of those people are despicable.
    >>>>>


    If you think that all the negative comments attacking the guy are coming from genuine CIG fans, you have a lot to learn about the way SA.com and the Goons wage their propaganda wars.


    Have fun


    unfilteredJW
  • ElsaboltsElsabolts Member RarePosts: 3,476
    mr1602 said:
    Fun fact, Chris Roberts or his attorney does not show up and a default judgment is awarded to StreetRoller, Chris Roberts will be declared 'a fraud' by the courts.

    Since this is an actual court that gave that declaration, it stays with you through all future proceedings (legal or not), background checks etc.

    Don't forget Lawyers have lives too.
    " Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Those Who  Would Threaten It "
                                            MAGA
  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy Member EpicPosts: 3,497
    Erillion said:
    If you think that all the negative comments attacking the guy are coming from genuine CIG fans, you have a lot to learn about the way SA.com and the Goons wage their propaganda wars.
    Sadly it just reads like you are trying to defend fellow Star Citizen fans by pointing the finger at someone else.

    If these are Star Citizen fans behaving in this manner is it acceptable?
  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    Erillion said:
    If you think that all the negative comments attacking the guy are coming from genuine CIG fans, you have a lot to learn about the way SA.com and the Goons wage their propaganda wars.
    Sadly it just reads like you are trying to defend fellow Star Citizen fans by pointing the finger at someone else.

    If these are Star Citizen fans behaving in this manner is it acceptable?
    Bad behaviour is never acceptable.

    Neither is implying that the bad behaviour of these individuals is somehow a reflection of "what Star Citizen fans are like"...
    ErillionMaxBacon
  • ThaneThane Member EpicPosts: 3,504
    i don't like his kind. if he doesnt want to test an early access or however they call it, he should not.
    he did, he didnt like it, and he went the way of the pissed pussy.

    sorry, i will never concider him a hero, and i can't see why anyone would do so
    MrMelGibson

    "I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"

  • BLNXBLNX Member UncommonPosts: 93
    mr1602 said:
    but he has a right to be angry about buying into a project when the company hasn't delivered the game -- yet tried to advertise the world. didn't they accumulate hundreds of millions of dollars and first announce the project more than half a decade ago?
    In NJ, the mere fact that a mis-presented good is being SOLD is violating the law.
    It'll be hilarious if after this lawsuit, there is a disclaimer on CIG's website that says 'not sold in NJ'. 
    I mean.. once a company has your money, they do everything in their power to keep it. When I played through my first 2 nights of No Man's Sky, I realized there was no multiplayer and the game was a complete sham. I tried to get my refund from Sony, but they told me that I had completed too many achievements (WHICH CONSISTED OF WALKING AROUND FOR HOURS), and I was no longer eligible for a refund.
    ....which is what the crippled dude is experiencing with Star Citizen. they claimed he had a sufficient amount of time to realize the game was bad (500 hours), and now he -- and the rest of the world -- is no longer eligible for a refund.

    That's some snake oil shit, dude.


    --> clarification: Also, the developers of No Man's Sky kept posting on social media that the servers were experiencing technical difficulties due to overabundance of connections. they made it seem like MORE was coming as long as we stuck with the game -- but this was a complete lie to keep us playing. 
    500h and a refund? lolololo Did he claim a refund for his car after driving it fo 500 hours too?
    well that depends. did he buy the car with every feature already implemented or did the developers have to remotely update it -- piece by piece -- for 5+ years?

    edit:
    you cannot be mad at the crippled dude for expecting the game to be the World of Warcraft of space mmos. you cannot honestly point the finger at him and say it's his fault for listening to the hype of CIG. you cannot be mad at him for having the insurmountable patience to Finally ask for a refund.

    AND I GUARANTEE YOU -- that all he wants is for CIG to release the game they promised.

    They won't, by the way, but that's all anyone ever wanted. to receive the game they promised.



    Why do all these SC threads have these odd analogies? I thought SC was a cake to be made, now it's a car that needs to be bought. Next thing you know the argument will become that it's a box that needs the right tape to be shipped.
    Pingu2012MrMelGibson
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Did anything ever come of the DCBA suit? I remember I personally contacted the DCBA back when this was a thing and they had zero investigations into CIG at the time and the case file given was not valid. So this guy could, in theory, be lying. I'd be interested to know if there is any other hard evidence that this guy isn't simply a troll to the nth degree. 
    MrMelGibson

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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 3,219
    mr1602 said:

    Kyleran said:
    Hero? Hardly qualifies by any definition of the term.



    Because of him, I know at least 2 families who didn't sleep on the streets as the dad got the refund from CIG much more quickly than the charge back process and was able to pay rent.

    Nice cheap shot though. I'm sure this reflects well for you.

    Sounds like the dad in those two families had messed up priorities if they needed a refund from CIG to be able to pay rent....
    CrazKanukRosenborgConstantineMerusMrMelGibson

    Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.





  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member EpicPosts: 7,275
    edited January 2018
    CrazKanuk said:
    Did anything ever come of the DCBA suit? I remember I personally contacted the DCBA back when this was a thing and they had zero investigations into CIG at the time and the case file given was not valid. So this guy could, in theory, be lying. I'd be interested to know if there is any other hard evidence that this guy isn't simply a troll to the nth degree. 
    It's all BS and years after, it speaks by itself.

    I remember that indeed. Also, Smart ensuring the FTC investigation on SC was happening years ago, then silence like it never happened, and how he had is lawsuit against CIG proceedings ongoing, nothing as well...

    Obvious propaganda, when goons put a "serious face", or try to at least.

    And he might even file the lawsuit, but shall be nothing by noise seeing by his rant video, how we will go to court and prove CIG are criminals. At least Derek knew he didn't have a case so he just sweet his supposed lawsuit under the rug.
    Shodanas
  • WoeToTheVanquishedWoeToTheVanquished Member UncommonPosts: 253
    BLNX said:

    Why do all these SC threads have these odd analogies? I thought SC was a cake to be made, now it's a car that needs to be bought. Next thing you know the argument will become that it's a box that needs the right tape to be shipped.
    I went along with it because it was an easy target.

    did you buy your cake with all the implemented ingredients or did it take 5+ years to mix, bake and frost? hm? hm?
    unfilteredJW
  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    edited January 2018
    mr1602 said:


    StreetRoller, all I can say is that you made a positive difference in a lot of people's lives and I am incredibly proud of you.


    So, this incoherent lying schmuck is your hero ?

    Get a life man.. seriously get a damn life.

    He is as conniving as they come though, i give him that. He has the ruse to put the word "allegedly" next to his wild accusations and lies to cover his behind from any repercussions. Smart.

    I particularly liked the point where he talks about CR: "..if you make a statement about a product that you know it is not true... i can't think of any of the top of my head.."

    Hilarious. Thanks for the laughs.
    MrMelGibson
  • HeraseHerase Member RarePosts: 993
    edited January 2018
    Hero? He using he's on disability to gain views, clicks and sympathy. "Shaggy Cripple"
    What relevancy does it have to he's point? 

    He talks about Total Biscuit and he's cancer, why? 

    Then brings in third world countries, again, why? 

    Through out the video he doesn't explain on what grounds he will sue them on or he's plan. Just keeps listing of things on why you should be sympathetic towards what he's doing even if it makes no sense.

    Then he ends it with "come at me bro, literally" Um....what??

    If people are honestly getting behind this guy considering he's attitude and what I said above, I don't know what to say. 
    ShodanasMaxBaconMrMelGibson
  • PhaserlightPhaserlight Member EpicPosts: 3,002
    Erillion said:
    If you think that all the negative comments attacking the guy are coming from genuine CIG fans, you have a lot to learn about the way SA.com and the Goons wage their propaganda wars.
    Sadly it just reads like you are trying to defend fellow Star Citizen fans by pointing the finger at someone else.

    If these are Star Citizen fans behaving in this manner is it acceptable?
    Bad behaviour is never acceptable.

    Neither is implying that the bad behaviour of these individuals is somehow a reflection of "what Star Citizen fans are like"...
    It is what they are like, though.  It's been noted by multiple sources: it's way outside the normal.

    I wish there were a better solution than to just not engage and hope it goes away by the time launch rolls around. 

    "The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar
    Authored 139 missions in Vendetta Online and 6 tracks in Distance

  • PhaserlightPhaserlight Member EpicPosts: 3,002
    Asm0deus said:
    mr1602 said:

    Kyleran said:
    Hero? Hardly qualifies by any definition of the term.



    Because of him, I know at least 2 families who didn't sleep on the streets as the dad got the refund from CIG much more quickly than the charge back process and was able to pay rent.

    Nice cheap shot though. I'm sure this reflects well for you.

    Sounds like the dad in those two families had messed up priorities if they needed a refund from CIG to be able to pay rent....
    Wow, blaming the victim much? 

    I don't know if mr1602's claim is true, but it looks like you are assuming it is then waving it away as bad judgement and implying they deserved it. 

    Yes, it was bad judgement (if true). It doesn't mean they deserve to be on the street. 

    It's possible they bought in to a misrepresented product.  I'm not saying it was a good order of properties.

    People also suffer from all kinds of addictions which to the rest of us often look like bad judgement. 
    MaxBaconAsm0deus

    "The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar
    Authored 139 missions in Vendetta Online and 6 tracks in Distance

  • JeffSpicoliJeffSpicoli Member EpicPosts: 2,849
    edited January 2018
    Star Citizen is a scam of the highest level , if you are a sucker and gave 3 grand to them you deserve to lose your money. 


    • Aloha Mr Hand ! 

  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,229
    thunderC said:
    Star Citizen is a scam of the highest level , if you are a sucker and gave 3 grand to them you deserve to lose your money. 


    Feel free to describe why Star Citizen is a scam in your opinion.


    Have fun
  • JeffSpicoliJeffSpicoli Member EpicPosts: 2,849
    You tube comments  directed at this manroller guy are vile.  All the people taking shots at his disability , who were you raised by ? What has happened to humans ? internet tough guys feel the need to chastise and humiliate a cripple  in defense of their "video game" , WTF is wrong with these people. 
    • Aloha Mr Hand ! 

  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619
    As much as I feel that Chris Roberts over promised and mis-managed this project, this video is ridiculous.  The whole thing screams "I need attention" and "Ghetto".  From the cigar to his copying of Angry Joe "You f-ed it up".

    My advice to him, stop smoking and get a real life.
    ShodanasMrMelGibson
    "Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game."  - SEANMCAD

  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,229
    >>>
    People also suffer from all kinds of addictions which to the rest of us often look like bad judgement. 
    >>>

    Then it is high time someone suggests counselling and treatment to them. Anything they see or hear could have triggered their psychological condition.


    Have fun



  • JeffSpicoliJeffSpicoli Member EpicPosts: 2,849
    Erillion said:
    thunderC said:
    Star Citizen is a scam of the highest level , if you are a sucker and gave 3 grand to them you deserve to lose your money. 


    Feel free to describe why Star Citizen is a scam in your opinion.


    Have fun
    Im not going to get into with you & all your cronies and have a circle jerk conversation on these forums for the next hour. You either get it or you don't.
    Erillion
    • Aloha Mr Hand ! 

  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,229
    edited January 2018
    thunderC said:
    You tube comments  directed at this manroller guy are vile.  All the people taking shots at his disability , who were you raised by ? What has happened to humans ? internet tough guys feel the need to chastise and humiliate a cripple  in defense of their "video game" , WTF is wrong with these people. 
    See upthread - concerning your apparent lack of knowledge about how the SA.com community and the Goons execute their psychological warfare campaigns (including fake comments etc.):  You DID know that this guy is right smack in the middle of the SA.com community, did you not ?


    Have fun
  • EldrachEldrach Member UncommonPosts: 173
    I don't think SC is in the place it ought to be after such an amount of time. But if you spend thousands of dollars on a kickstarter..and complain that without the refund you'll end up on the streets..you only have yourself to blame. ..If the game WAS released and it WAS awesome...you'd still not have those money back
    JeffSpicoli
  • PhaserlightPhaserlight Member EpicPosts: 3,002
    ...and for the record, I give this a snowball's chance in hell of going anywhere.

    I agree that this looks like stretching 5 minutes of fame into 8.  If he was serious about suing CR he wouldn't be posting on YouTube about it. That sort of thing is courtroom fodder. 
    Kickaxe

    "The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar
    Authored 139 missions in Vendetta Online and 6 tracks in Distance

  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member EpicPosts: 7,275
    Herase said:
    Hero? He using he's on disability to gain views, clicks and sympathy. "Shaggy Cripple"
    What relevancy does it have to he's point? 

    He talks about Total Biscuit and he's cancer, why? 

    Then brings in third world countries, again, why? 

    Through out the video he doesn't explain on what grounds he will sue them on or he's plan. Just keeps listing of things on why you should be sympathetic towards what he's doing even if it makes no sense.

    Then he ends it with "come at me bro, literally" Um....what??

    If people are honestly getting behind this guy considering he's attitude and what I said above, I don't know what to say. 
    Agreed right there.

    So much argument to gain sympathy, that and the OP "oh family living on the street if it wasn't for him allowing them to get refund" is just beyond me.
  • PhaserlightPhaserlight Member EpicPosts: 3,002
    edited January 2018
    Eldrach said:
    I don't think SC is in the place it ought to be after such an amount of time. But if you spend thousands of dollars on a kickstarter..and complain that without the refund you'll end up on the streets..you only have yourself to blame. ..If the game WAS released and it WAS awesome...you'd still not have those money back
    I can see where you are coming from and I almost agree, but the story is often a little more nuanced. 

    Just look at what's going on in the industry with loot boxes, EA, Hawaii, etc.

    Yes, it's on me as a consumer not to spendthrift myself onto the street.  However, there are such things as predatory marketing tactics, particularly when you are talking about millions of dollars.

    The corporation needs to hold some responsibility as well.

    "The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar
    Authored 139 missions in Vendetta Online and 6 tracks in Distance

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