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The 10 Best MMOs of 2017 - The List - MMORPG.com

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  • AstraeisAstraeis Member UncommonPosts: 378

    SBFord said:

    Geez, people, lighten up. It's not like Bill said these were all MMORPGs, simply "MMOs".



    He kinda asked for it, so I think he is smiling behind the keyboard now.

    It takes one to know one.

  • DijonCyanideDijonCyanide Member UncommonPosts: 586
    Decent list, not a good list imo, but not terrible by any means neither. I accept it since it's subjective just as if I submitted my own list and others' lists too.

    What troubles me more than anything lately with this site is the journalistic integrity, intent to report things accurately, seems to be declining.

    Murphy & Ford are correct in their depiction that the gaming world changes & the terms used in describing it are always progressing too.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 13,064
    “In no particular order, here are our 10 Best MMOs of 2017. Note, not all of these are MMORPG’s, but rather prime examples of the changing landscape of persistent online games.”
    If "persistent" is to be the new criteria for calling something an MMO what exactly is persistent about the 100 man PVP matches of Player Unknown?

    I see a list of 10 multiplayer games you liked in 2017. Not a bad list as far as that goes. But why insist in calling them all MMOs when some don't even fit your new and improved criteria?

    These threads always seem to devolve into a discussion about whether the items on your list fit the definition of MMO instead of whether it's a worthy top 10 something list. A pointless debate that could easily be avoided by not forcing the terminology issue.

    So why your reluctance to just refer to them as multiplayer games?


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  • Quizar1973Quizar1973 Member UncommonPosts: 237
    edited December 2017


    Rhygarth said:

    Lol the first 4 are not even MMO's :P



    LOL....And some people on here obvioslly don't read the article....It says right there that some of them are not MMORPG's......Read before you comment...LOL
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  • WraithoneWraithone Member RarePosts: 3,802
    Perhaps the definition of MMO is like that of Porn? I can't define it, "but I know it when I see it". Justice Potter Stewart. ^^
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  • HashbrickHashbrick Member RarePosts: 1,851
    Christ by that definition I guess you could say Hearthstone is an MMO, what a world we live in....
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  • RhygarthRhygarth Member UncommonPosts: 257
    edited December 2017


    Rhygarth said:

    Lol the first 4 are not even MMO's :P



    LOL....And some people on here obvioslly don't read the article....It says right there that some of them are not MMORPG's......Read before you comment...LOL
    rofl read the title
    Don't put click bait titles that say "The 10 best MMO's of 2017" then list games that are not even MMO's let alone MMORPG's


    The funny thing is all the games in this list are probably paying to be there and us all clicking on this article is neting mmorpg some cash so making click bait titles pays off for them :dizzy:

    just me being cynical i guess

  • Firelover666Firelover666 Member UncommonPosts: 1
    For those of you saying the 1st 4 are not MMOs you're wrong. They're MMOs they're just not MMORPGs. MMO= Massive Multiplayer Online. MMORPG= Massive Multiplayer Online Role-playing Game. Any game that is built around massive multiplayer online is an MMO, but not necessarily a MMORPG. It could be a MMOFPS or MMORTS......etc
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  • RhygarthRhygarth Member UncommonPosts: 257
    edited December 2017
    For those of you saying the 1st 4 are not MMOs you're wrong. They're MMOs they're just not MMORPGs. MMO= Massive Multiplayer Online. MMORPG= Massive Multiplayer Online Role-playing Game. Any game that is built around massive multiplayer online is an MMO, but not necessarily a MMORPG. It could be a MMOFPS or MMORTS......etc


    It's "massively multiplayer online"  get it right ffs


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  • hyllyhhyllyh Member UncommonPosts: 247
    black dollar online....serious?
  • KhegobierKhegobier Member UncommonPosts: 54

    Rhygarth said:

    MMO massively multiplayer online is not 100 people on a server... i would not class massively as 100, you on the other hand might but 100 in my book is not massive 1000+ then yes



    Nope. That's like calling Google Hangouts an MMO, which it clearly isn't. They're multiplayer games with a chat system. There's nothing "massive" about them.
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  • esc-joconnoresc-joconnor Member RarePosts: 1,096
    Rhygarth said:
    For those of you saying the 1st 4 are not MMOs you're wrong. They're MMOs they're just not MMORPGs. MMO= Massive Multiplayer Online. MMORPG= Massive Multiplayer Online Role-playing Game. Any game that is built around massive multiplayer online is an MMO, but not necessarily a MMORPG. It could be a MMOFPS or MMORTS......etc


    It's "massively multiplayer online"  get it right ffs


    Actually, it's "massively-multiplayer online"
    Rhygarth
  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,726
    Po_gg said:
    You can't go wrong with an acronym like POG!
    I am Po_gg and I support this message.

    :sunglasses:
    I thought you might when I was posting that lol xD

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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,776
    The whole idea of MMO is that it's "Multiplayer" that is described as Massively. Not a massive world. Not a massive server. But that a massive number of players can interact in the same persistent world together at the same time in the same location. In an MMO, I should be able to meet up with anyone else logged into my server without needing to queue up for something. 

    If I need to queue up for something to meet up with someone, then I can only meet up with a number of players who can also queue up for the same instance. What is massively multiplayer about that?

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  • xmeerk4txxmeerk4tx Member UncommonPosts: 6
    For all of those arguing that some of there's aren't "MMO's", here's the definition. "An acronym for Massively Multiplayer Online game. MMOs usually involve a free download and recurring monthly fee for gameplay. The most popular MMOs are MMORPGs. One such game is World of Warcraft". In the topic it stated that not all of them are MMORPGs. So, the ones listed fit this title. You could argue they aren't "MMORPG's" to an extent, but they are all MMO's.
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  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,387
    LOL

    Let's look at Steam tags (in no particular order):

    Warframe = Free to Play - Action - Co-op - Multiplayer - Sci-fi.

    PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds = Survival - Shooter - Multiplayer.

    FFXIV = Massively Multiplayer - RPG - Fantasy.

    Bless Online = Massively Multiplayer - Adventure - RPG - Action.

    Black Desert Online = Massively Multiplayer- RPG - Action.


    See? Looks like STEAM know what is and what is not a MMO better than MMORPG.com...

    Sorry but PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds is not a MMO, not even the DEVs of the game calls it a MMO, and everyone but MMORPG.com knows it.

    If PUBG is a MMO now, I guess COD and BF are too. Well, let us not forget about League Of Legends.

    Sorry, but what is wrong is wrong. Multiplayer is not the same as Massive Multiplayer, that is why both of the tags exist.
    OK then so:

    Just Fishing is a massively multiplayer game ..... Steam says so along with 

    Heroes Paradise - My Dream Ranch; Trend Poker 3D; March of Empires; Park Bound; Knife Bound; CarX Drift Racing; Online Circle Pong; OneScreen Wagons 

    oh there are so many. I am SO GLAD you pointed out how much better Steam is. Your massively multiplayer experience must be so much better using Steam as your guide <cough>. 

    And of course ESO is not a massively multiplayer game because the devs said it isn't. Glad that is cleared up. (Nothing to do with devs wanting to avoid any label at all so that buyers cannot say x, y and z are not done right, so they were misled by false advertsing etc. etc.)


  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,483
    Mazeneal said:

    Rhygarth said:

    Lol the first 4 are not even MMO's :P



    The title is MMO's not MMORPG, nor any other acronym......these are indeed Massive Multiplayer Online games.....
    No, they aren't.  They're just regular ole multiplayer games.

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  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 2,909
    Oh MAN.

    Bill Murphy.

    YOUR LIST IS AWESOME.

    :)



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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,483
    edited December 2017
    I guess the staff here, between changing the site's name or the genre's definition, decided to do the latter. Considering it is rather impossible to purchase mog.com, it makes sense. 

    I don't agree with them, but I understand them. 

    Unless they're all wasted and toasted. Then I'd understand them even more! ;)
    I don't blame them, just stop trying to link them together.  It's insulting to one's intelligence.

    Cover them and call them what they are : multiplayer games with RPG elements.  Nobody has to stop covering video games, I just ask that they stop trying to lump them together when they're clearly not in the same genre, they just feature overlapping mechanics.

    It's like saying Skyrim was that year's #1 first-person shooter because you can be an archer and play in the first-person view.

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  • DavodtheTuttDavodtheTutt Member UncommonPosts: 403
    It's all moot to me, until I find a game where "open world" means I can go anywhere and find my own things to do, "persistent" means when I do something, it stays done (at least for a good long time -- DEATH to FARMING RESPAWNS!), and "Sandbox" means when I find my own things to do, I can discover the (intuitive) way to do them (DEATH to "crafting" RECIPES, especially with nonsensical "ingredients"!). Plus for the love of gaming, give the NPCs a modicum of basic AI, PLEASE.
  • Viper482Viper482 Member EpicPosts: 2,764


    No, ALL of these games are MMOs, but what an MMO is has changed greatly since the genre’s inception. And if you disagree, that’s fine. Just make your own list.



    Maybe you guys should think about changing the name of the website. www.MMORPG.com calling out Warframe Fortnite, and Pubg as three of the best MMOs of 2017 is just wrong on so many levels.

    We have always had multiplayer games and MMO's, why all of a sudden are they the same?
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  • Viper482Viper482 Member EpicPosts: 2,764

    SBFord said:

    Geez, people, lighten up. It's not like Bill said these were all MMORPGs, simply "MMOs".

    I dunno...."M" (MASSIVE) "M" (MULTIPLAYER) "O" (ONLINE) all seem to fit each of these games. The definition of massive has changed. The days of 1000s of players sharing a single game are mostly gone and if you consider "servers" -- most of which host fewer than 500 players -- these games all fit. 

    The "new" MMO is 50+ to whatever number of players together in one place. People need to adapt with the times. Someday maybe the more "traditional" version of MMO will come back, but for now, times have changed. It's not 2007 any more.




    The new MMO is 50+ people online? So Battlefront is an MMO now? CoD? Who made this new definition?
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  • esc-joconnoresc-joconnor Member RarePosts: 1,096
    Man, so much wasted talk on the meaning of a term. What is the player minimum to be an MMO? There isn't much bigger than massive, so on a planet with 7.3 billion people. maybe 100k doing something at the same time? Agreed? 

    Maybe there should be a logical definition. But alas, me thinks that to be a fools errand. Maybe we should just remember that a rose by any name would still smell as sweet. 
    This site made the move from MMORPGs only to include MMOs and RPGs. And there aren't that many massively-multiplayer online games that everyone can agree on. So accept it or move on I guess.
  • ChicagoCubChicagoCub Member UncommonPosts: 380
    SBFord said:
    Rhygarth said:
    Lol the first 4 are not even MMO's :P
    And so it begins....
    It's sad when a site has to resort to trolling its own members.
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  • sowens0074sowens0074 Member UncommonPosts: 22
    Some of those are not MMOs but expected from this "MMO" site.
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