Patreon for poor people that cant afford CoE? Elyrian Assistance Program announced...

Kyleran

Talonsin said:

"We are a group of donors looking to help those players who have shown dedication and passion for Chronicles of Elyria"

Wait... 
Dont you have to pay for the game to play it?  How can people show dedication and passion for the game without playing it?  Have they had free to play weekends?  How can someone who can not afford to buy the game show dedication and passion?  Are they just going by forum posts?

On another note, while I think it is awesome when gamers help each other out.  I think this might be a bit over the top but then since it looks like the cheapest package is $45, I can understand how some people may not want to drop a AAA-title price for an indie game that is not even released yet.

You'll likely have to be an active participant/ supporter/ promoter on their Discord,  Facebook and other social media venues.

ConstantineMerus

Kyleran said:

Talonsin said:

"We are a group of donors looking to help those players who have shown dedication and passion for Chronicles of Elyria"

Wait... 
Dont you have to pay for the game to play it?  How can people show dedication and passion for the game without playing it?  Have they had free to play weekends?  How can someone who can not afford to buy the game show dedication and passion?  Are they just going by forum posts?

On another note, while I think it is awesome when gamers help each other out.  I think this might be a bit over the top but then since it looks like the cheapest package is $45, I can understand how some people may not want to drop a AAA-title price for an indie game that is not even released yet.

You'll likely have to be an active participant/ supporter/ promoter on their Discord,  Facebook and other social media venues.

Groupies of the information age. Don't you miss it when it was just about sex, drugs and rock n' roll, and of course, liver problems?

Slapshot1188

Kyleran said:

Talonsin said:

"We are a group of donors looking to help those players who have shown dedication and passion for Chronicles of Elyria"

Wait... 
Dont you have to pay for the game to play it?  How can people show dedication and passion for the game without playing it?  Have they had free to play weekends?  How can someone who can not afford to buy the game show dedication and passion?  Are they just going by forum posts?

On another note, while I think it is awesome when gamers help each other out.  I think this might be a bit over the top but then since it looks like the cheapest package is $45, I can understand how some people may not want to drop a AAA-title price for an indie game that is not even released yet.

You'll likely have to be an active participant/ supporter/ promoter on their Discord,  Facebook and other social media venues.

Apparently you get interviewed   Maybe it could be considered practice for a job interview which would in turn enable folks to actually save up the ~$40 over the next 2 years to buy the game.



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Horse Lord Varuian Maulvorn-Today at 11:32 AM

@'❥ Violet Winterborne❄ is there an interview process for the pledges because I want to talk to in length the person I'm spending money on

'❥ Violet Winterborne❄-Today at 11:32 AM

That would work too ^.^ If you want to give one in for a giveaway or one for a specific person who has told their story/submitted an application to the discord that is nice as well ^.^

you can yes! The discord has majority of the applicants that wish for assistance

Kyleran

Slapshot1188 said:

Kyleran said:

Talonsin said:

"We are a group of donors looking to help those players who have shown dedication and passion for Chronicles of Elyria"

Wait... 
Dont you have to pay for the game to play it?  How can people show dedication and passion for the game without playing it?  Have they had free to play weekends?  How can someone who can not afford to buy the game show dedication and passion?  Are they just going by forum posts?

On another note, while I think it is awesome when gamers help each other out.  I think this might be a bit over the top but then since it looks like the cheapest package is $45, I can understand how some people may not want to drop a AAA-title price for an indie game that is not even released yet.

You'll likely have to be an active participant/ supporter/ promoter on their Discord,  Facebook and other social media venues.

Apparently you get interviewed   Maybe it could be considered practice for a job interview which would in turn enable folks to actually save up the ~$40 over the next 2 years to buy the game.



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Horse Lord Varuian Maulvorn-Today at 11:32 AM

@'❥ Violet Winterborne❄ is there an interview process for the pledges because I want to talk to in length the person I'm spending money on

'❥ Violet Winterborne❄-Today at 11:32 AM

That would work too ^.^ If you want to give one in for a giveaway or one for a specific person who has told their story/submitted an application to the discord that is nice as well ^.^

you can yes! The discord has majority of the applicants that wish for assistance

Excellent, I may join the program just to mess with folks and ask for pledges of fealty such as a firstborn child or something.  

(In game of course)

Slapshot1188

Kyleran said:

Slapshot1188 said:

Kyleran said:

Talonsin said:

"We are a group of donors looking to help those players who have shown dedication and passion for Chronicles of Elyria"

Wait... 
Dont you have to pay for the game to play it?  How can people show dedication and passion for the game without playing it?  Have they had free to play weekends?  How can someone who can not afford to buy the game show dedication and passion?  Are they just going by forum posts?

On another note, while I think it is awesome when gamers help each other out.  I think this might be a bit over the top but then since it looks like the cheapest package is $45, I can understand how some people may not want to drop a AAA-title price for an indie game that is not even released yet.

You'll likely have to be an active participant/ supporter/ promoter on their Discord,  Facebook and other social media venues.

Apparently you get interviewed   Maybe it could be considered practice for a job interview which would in turn enable folks to actually save up the ~$40 over the next 2 years to buy the game.



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Horse Lord Varuian Maulvorn-Today at 11:32 AM

@'❥ Violet Winterborne❄ is there an interview process for the pledges because I want to talk to in length the person I'm spending money on

'❥ Violet Winterborne❄-Today at 11:32 AM

That would work too ^.^ If you want to give one in for a giveaway or one for a specific person who has told their story/submitted an application to the discord that is nice as well ^.^

you can yes! The discord has majority of the applicants that wish for assistance

Excellent, I may join the program just to mess with folks and ask for pledges of fealty such as a firstborn child or something.  

Can I sit in on the interviews?
 

I want to hear you have a 12 year old kid explain how much this account would change his life and how dedicated he will be to your cause!

JustDrake

Most packs are given away either in a raffle or directly through the discord channel. It all depends on the donor

Slapshot1188

JustDrake said:

Most packs are given away either in a raffle or directly through the discord channel. It all depends on the donor

They should have a live telethon to help these people.   Maybe we can mandate access to the game 2 years before launch as a right and basic need.  We could call it ElyriaCare.

Asheram

JustDrake said:

Asheram said:

How many years of indentured servitude ingame to the donors kingdom is required?

Since its a group of people across servers, kingdoms and groups none at all.


Now I knew you were all salty about the game but your being salty about a group of people trying to help others get into the game at release.

The people they are helping are already members of the community.
We are not desperate for people to come to the game, just helping those in the community who want to be able to play from release.

The patreon is there for those donors who want to help buy can't afford a to buy someone a full pack.


Why can' you understand the Coe community is a community of decent people waiting for a game to release.
Just because other communities can be toxic doesn't mean they all are

Damn, I would have considered buying coe for myself and several indentured servants in the fashion of how kyloren put it. Now you just ruined it.

Sovrath

JustDrake said:

Slapshot1188 said:

JustDrake said:

Most packs are given away either in a raffle or directly through the discord channel. It all depends on the donor

They should have a live telethon to help these people.   Maybe we can mandate access to the game 2 years before launch as a right and basic need.  We could call it ElyriaCare.

Wow slapshot

You know this silliness just demeans you.

At least your showing people exactly what levels you will stoop to, to try and ruin chronicles of elyria

Some perspective is in order.

To anyone who is working and who has adult responsibilities, most likely an adult, the whole things seems silly.

I'm not sure where you are coming from, how old you are, but a fund to help people playing video games does come under the absurd.

It almost comes under the same heading as that South Park episode where all these famous music stars can't afford a variety of things because of pirating (though I don't believe in pirating) so someone doesn't get their island, someone gets a private plane but no on board entertainment center.

Not the same but sort of the same.

Raising the amount of money it would take to get this video game can't be that hard if you are in a developed country.

If one isn't in a developed country then I wonder if they have the internet to play it (maybe they do, who knows?) and there are probably a lot more things they should be given money for than a video game.

It's an absurd notion.

JustDrake

Sovrath said:

JustDrake said:

Slapshot1188 said:

JustDrake said:

Most packs are given away either in a raffle or directly through the discord channel. It all depends on the donor

They should have a live telethon to help these people.   Maybe we can mandate access to the game 2 years before launch as a right and basic need.  We could call it ElyriaCare.

Wow slapshot

You know this silliness just demeans you.

At least your showing people exactly what levels you will stoop to, to try and ruin chronicles of elyria

Some perspective is in order.

To anyone who is working and who has adult responsibilities, most likely an adult, the whole things seems silly.

I'm not sure where you are coming from, how old you are, but a fund to help people playing video games does come under the absurd.

It almost comes under the same heading as that South Park episode where all these famous music stars can't afford a variety of things because of pirating (though I don't believe in pirating) so someone doesn't get their island, someone gets a private plane but no on board entertainment center.

Not the same but sort of the same.

Raising the amount of money it would take to get this video game can't be that hard if you are in a developed country.

If one isn't in a developed country then I wonder if they have the internet to play it (maybe they do, who knows?) and there are probably a lot more things they should be given money for than a video game.

It's an absurd notion.

I think maybe you need to actually learn more about what can and can not be affordable in a developed country.

You also might want to note that in YOUR opinion it's absurd and that not everyone shares your opinion 

Asheram

Kyleran said:

Asheram said:

How many years of indentured servitude ingame to the donors kingdom is required?

They are missing a huge opportunity here.

Players of a certain title or aristocracy should be able to purchase other players an account,  however those accounts should be bound to the lord, like a medieval serfdom.

And if your serfs try to escape you can put out bounties for them dead or alive, And put them in stocks at the center of town so people can throw rotten fruit and veggies at them for a certain period of time.

Kyleran

JustDrake said:

Sovrath said:

JustDrake said:

Slapshot1188 said:

JustDrake said:

Most packs are given away either in a raffle or directly through the discord channel. It all depends on the donor

They should have a live telethon to help these people.   Maybe we can mandate access to the game 2 years before launch as a right and basic need.  We could call it ElyriaCare.

Wow slapshot

You know this silliness just demeans you.

At least your showing people exactly what levels you will stoop to, to try and ruin chronicles of elyria

Some perspective is in order.

To anyone who is working and who has adult responsibilities, most likely an adult, the whole things seems silly.

I'm not sure where you are coming from, how old you are, but a fund to help people playing video games does come under the absurd.

It almost comes under the same heading as that South Park episode where all these famous music stars can't afford a variety of things because of pirating (though I don't believe in pirating) so someone doesn't get their island, someone gets a private plane but no on board entertainment center.

Not the same but sort of the same.

Raising the amount of money it would take to get this video game can't be that hard if you are in a developed country.

If one isn't in a developed country then I wonder if they have the internet to play it (maybe they do, who knows?) and there are probably a lot more things they should be given money for than a video game.

It's an absurd notion.

I think maybe you need to actually learn more about what can and can not be affordable in a developed country.

You also might want to note that in YOUR opinion it's absurd and that not everyone shares your opinion 

Fairly certain in almost any community you can name outside of the COE sphere the idea of charity to play games would find many who would agree the idea is absurd.

As for opinions, some are more informed and valued than others.

Finally,  good games don't really need defenders, they'll stand on their own accord.

mystichaze

Frankly, I don't agree that the game doesn't and won't exist, but that is my risk to take if I choose. I am not really sure how that effects anyone here? *Shrugs*

Sovrath

JustDrake said:

Sovrath said:

JustDrake said:

Slapshot1188 said:

JustDrake said:

Most packs are given away either in a raffle or directly through the discord channel. It all depends on the donor

They should have a live telethon to help these people.   Maybe we can mandate access to the game 2 years before launch as a right and basic need.  We could call it ElyriaCare.

Wow slapshot

You know this silliness just demeans you.

At least your showing people exactly what levels you will stoop to, to try and ruin chronicles of elyria

Some perspective is in order.

To anyone who is working and who has adult responsibilities, most likely an adult, the whole things seems silly.

I'm not sure where you are coming from, how old you are, but a fund to help people playing video games does come under the absurd.

It almost comes under the same heading as that South Park episode where all these famous music stars can't afford a variety of things because of pirating (though I don't believe in pirating) so someone doesn't get their island, someone gets a private plane but no on board entertainment center.

Not the same but sort of the same.

Raising the amount of money it would take to get this video game can't be that hard if you are in a developed country.

If one isn't in a developed country then I wonder if they have the internet to play it (maybe they do, who knows?) and there are probably a lot more things they should be given money for than a video game.

It's an absurd notion.

I think maybe you need to actually learn more about what can and can not be affordable in a developed country.

You also might want to note that in YOUR opinion it's absurd and that not everyone shares your opinion 

hey, I've always said that an opinion is an opinion.

As far as "what can and can not be affordable in a developed country" ...

I have the unique perspective of coming from a lower middle class family, going to college, becoming, through a series of events not of my own doing, so poor I was cutting mold off cheese, living off peanut butter and stale bread (a friend bought me groceries so poor was I), hitting the pavement to get a job "no matter what" (recession) and then raising myself to a point where I am very comfortable.

I know what it's like to not have money and actually starve. And to work to get myself from out of that place.

So "yeah" it's my opinion that having a fund to help someone play a video game is absurd. I also think it absurd that someone would actually take money from such a fund instead of hitting the pavement, doing whatever job they can to make money, work three if they have to, and pull themselves from out of that position.

This seems like a very well meaning but misplaced way of helping someone.

Asheram

mystichaze said:

Frankly, I don't agree that the game doesn't and won't exist, but that is my risk to take if I choose. I am not really sure how that effects anyone here? *Shrugs*

Are there any current game play videos or is it just a concept at the moment in development?

Sovrath

Xodic said:

And I don't think anyone is poking fun at the good intentions.

I agree, it's nice that people want to help others. What they are helping people afford just seems (I won't use absurd again) odd.

But I'm also thinking that those who cock an eyebrow at this are probably older, have lived a bit, have worked for what they have.

And maybe it's a generational thing as well. Maybe people from "older" generations were more "pull yourself by your own bootstraps" type of people.

Scorchien

fixed

Scorchien

Xodic said:

Scorchien said:

EA owns the License to 2023 ..............Its not going to change

You know something is bothering you when you're in a topic on funding leisure activities to those who can't afford it with information about EA's Star Wars licensing.

lol .. how that happen

mystichaze

Asheram said:

mystichaze said:

Frankly, I don't agree that the game doesn't and won't exist, but that is my risk to take if I choose. I am not really sure how that effects anyone here? *Shrugs*

Are there any current game play videos or is it just a concept at the moment in development?

Yes, there is, although currently, they are limited. That is expected to change before the end of the year. 










And I just want to clarify, that no one HAS TO be involved in helping others within the community if they don't want to, it is strictly voluntary, should they choose. It was NOT implemented by SBS in the least, but rather by a community member. So to bash SBS for something a member has implemented is just ridiculous since they had nothing to do with it and were probably just as surprised as you folks when it was posted. It is not a mandatory thing, those who want to can help, those that don't aren't going to be thought about any differently. 

I would see the point of this thread if SBS had implemented it, but they didn't and don't play a part in it at all. 

mystichaze

// sorry double post

some-clueless-guy

Out of curiosity, is this program also going to help these players post-release?

If having years ahead to save money is not enough to afford the game, how are these players going to be able to afford the monthly costs or microtransactions or whatnots (sorry I am not familiar which payment method the game is going with)

mystichaze

some-clueless-guy said:

Out of curiosity, is this program also going to help these players post-release?

If having years ahead to save money is not enough to afford the game, how are these players going to be able to afford the monthly costs or microtransactions or whatnots (sorry I am not familiar which payment method the game is going with)

How they finance themselves after launch I am sure will differ with each player. I am sure it is not the intention of the community to finance the entirety of their gameplay. However, I do want to clarify that there are no monthly charges, nor microtransactions in Elyria. The only things that will be purchasable after launch are Souls, and Sparks of LIfe. You might want to think of a Soul as a character slot, and a spark as something that enables that Soul to be playable. 

The length of time that you can get from a spark of life is dependent on your gameplay. It has been stated that they can last anywhere from three months to twelve, depending on how many times you die.  That worried me a bit in the beginning when I first joined CoE because I thought about how many times I die in other games. But unlike other MMOs. in Elyria you can be knocked out, or be killed. There is a difference. It is a little too complex for me to try to explain here but if interested you should research it yourself wherein it makes a lot more sense.

Scorchien

LMAO , if a person needs help to PLay a Game , From an outsider to fund there hobby , they need to focus on other parts of there life , Before spending there time on a game they cant afford ..
  '
  And by doing this you arent actually helping this person at all , most likely further damaging there situation ...

  We are talking about pennies a day here .. If you cant afford that , you need to improve your position in life first before you sit down to play games

OrangeBoy

mystichaze said:

You folks over here at mmorpg never cease to amaze me. You take a very noble gesture of community members helping out other community members with means that were offered in their packages and try to turn it into something negative and dramatic, really?

And that is your opinion. And I only say that is your opinion because for some reason you're very focused on "opinions", except when you see something you like, then at that point it's a fact.

Let's look at the objective side, whatever happens here will probably not affect whatever is going to happen with this food-stamp/EBT system that's been created to give people who don't want to invest their own money or are too poor a chance to play CoE. 

A ) If they don't want to invest their own money, why should you give them a hand out for something they are obviously able to afford? I would actually find it disrespectful and depressing if this was actually the case.

B ) They are too poor to afford 35/45 bucks to buy into the game, meaning said people are either kids with no access to their parent's bank account or are actually dirt broke. 

Either case, this entire thing is set up to either solicit funds, make the founder feel like he's doing something nice for humanity, generate drama, or any of the other things.

Keep in mind how many organizations have been set up in that forum and have been fought over by kings and then forgotten (Elyria Treaty and etc).


It's all a show to make people forget whats truly important: The Gantt Chart

ConstantineMerus

I've seen adults having problems to buy video games. Once I learned one of my employees really wanted to play Wildstar but couldn't afford it, so I bought him an account with a year's subscription.

Turned out he hated the game after a month. But only kept playing because he felt he owed me. 

So what about now. What if you fund others, and they end up hating the game. Waste of fucking money, eh? Silly risk for an unreleased game.

Hey, I'm all in for crowdfunding, but a charity to help others to help fund a game is just absurd. What's the slogan, "I pledge your pledge"
Silly...