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Vanilla WoW....How would you build it ?
delete5230
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If you can build Vanilla World of Warcraft how would you do it ?
We all have our opinions, but this is my own:
- Don't even try to please everyone
- Introduce Monk class
- Fix all the bugs, that's a given
- Huge graphics update
- Balance a few classes in the background ( depending on version ).
Druids were too weak
Priest and Mage need more early mana. Subjective, if you knew how to play then no
Rogues needed more love early, then less at mid and high levels
Hunters were too strong after they get their pet
- Up difficulty 10% more than it was
- Fix crafting
Less materials needed, too much grinding
No matter how Guild dependent, players were always behind on level of crafted gear.
- Faster mount at level 30 and 15 gold.... Lets not irritate players
New and modern features:
- Modify the Social panel for LFG..... It's an absolute must that players are aware of this. It already worked, but NO ONE USES IT !
- Dual Speculation ONLY for Tanks and Healers so they can solo... More incentive to play.
- Really fix the summoning stones for dungeons, only one or two players needed, no more 30 second cast for drama.
- ALL caster classes get summoning players, no more 30 second cast for drama.
- Warlocks and Mage get "Soulstone" to be given to resurrect classes to revive themselves.....Let's not irritate groups (remember, 10% harder).
Long range goals:
- Have a full expansion ready to go. YOU STAY LEVEL 60 ( perks not worked out yet )
- Advertise expansion on day 30, execute it at day 60.... Why?.... Don't over crowed servers, more will jump in knowing this information. Timing must be perfect to catch the power levelers.
- Keep expansion secret for shock value and double release.
How would you do it ?
We all have our opinions, but this is my own:
- Don't even try to please everyone
- Introduce Monk class
- Fix all the bugs, that's a given
- Huge graphics update
- Balance a few classes in the background ( depending on version ).
Druids were too weak
Priest and Mage need more early mana. Subjective, if you knew how to play then no
Rogues needed more love early, then less at mid and high levels
Hunters were too strong after they get their pet
- Up difficulty 10% more than it was
- Fix crafting
Less materials needed, too much grinding
No matter how Guild dependent, players were always behind on level of crafted gear.
- Faster mount at level 30 and 15 gold.... Lets not irritate players
New and modern features:
- Modify the Social panel for LFG..... It's an absolute must that players are aware of this. It already worked, but NO ONE USES IT !
- Dual Speculation ONLY for Tanks and Healers so they can solo... More incentive to play.
- Really fix the summoning stones for dungeons, only one or two players needed, no more 30 second cast for drama.
- ALL caster classes get summoning players, no more 30 second cast for drama.
- Warlocks and Mage get "Soulstone" to be given to resurrect classes to revive themselves.....Let's not irritate groups (remember, 10% harder).
Long range goals:
- Have a full expansion ready to go. YOU STAY LEVEL 60 ( perks not worked out yet )
- Advertise expansion on day 30, execute it at day 60.... Why?.... Don't over crowed servers, more will jump in knowing this information. Timing must be perfect to catch the power levelers.
- Keep expansion secret for shock value and double release.
How would you do it ?
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Then I would start implementing content from the expansions that followed: dungeons and raids (Karazhan comes to mind, would make a perfect 10-man raid, and then Caverns of Time dungeons) scaled down to fit a level 60 environment. And then areas; there are many areas in classic wow that were shown on the map but were not in game (Hyjal, Dragon isles, and a few zones in Eastern Kingdoms).
I would expand on the class quests - giving the "non-viable" specs a "half-solution" through further gear upgrades. perhaps upgrading dungeon 2 set to dungeon 3 set and adding a class weapon to the set.
At some point, I would like to see Northrend in game as a level 60 group only continent for epic questing. That would be a blast indeed.
I wouldn't touch anything on the mechanics of the game post 1.12.1.
Once you start taking bits from here or there and adding this or that, it's no longer a "Classic" server. People asked for classic servers, not progression servers. You can have progression servers but they should be separate from classic servers.
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I would pull the original code from source control, create a dedicated server and put it on that server, then I would hire some developers to make all the needed patch fixes that correct bugs that might have been in future updates.
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I like the approach, as long as they provide more time to get through the horsemen this time around.
With no BC planned this should not be an issue.
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Who can stomach running stratholme for the now 500th time or for those mount seekers a billionth.
But preserving what made vanilla vanilla and use it as a base to continue on the game on a different design philosophy could be interesting.
I totally agree,
At the minimum fix what's irritating.
I hate to say it but without an eventual expansion, it would be slow suicide. But with all mmo expansion's they outdate older good content. This has to be somehow fixed with all mmos.
Blizzard should just launch Vanilla and let us run through all Vanilla's progression again. When that is done hopefully we'll have had a year of fun and Blizzard has made a tidy profit. There's no need to overthink it.
Go look at the private servers that were wildly popular. How did they run it? If the answer is exactly like Vanilla WoW, then Blizzard needs to make it just like that. The private servers have already demonstrated what will work. Every change Blizzard makes away from that model is a change towards disaster. We all know how good Blizzard is as adding new content
There needs to be discernable benefits or many won't do it.
Question of course is, how much different can they be?
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That means, no blink to death, falling through the world, fear into inanimate objects, stuff like that.
We don't need quality of life improvements... that's what retail is all about. Vanilla is retro gaming, not modern take on an old game. It's called vanilla because it's a blast from the past.
If you want modern conveniences... just wait for time walking to cover all the dungeons/raids... there's your modern WoW with old stories. Not going to be the same because it isn't the same.
Complaints on private servers is downtime due to constant DDOS, broken/missing quests, and bugs. That is what Blizzard should fix. Nothing else.
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Trying to add features from current Wow would kinda take away the point with the project but it need a graphic overhaul to look pleasing enough for modern players.
Absolutely not true !!!!
When someone uses the word pristine, its a hard word to argue.
It would make people say "I better not fight this battle"... But it's just a powerful word is all !
OK on topic:
The private server I'm on is the most popular and has been for years. It has many servers and many expansion servers, infact their adding Mists of Pandaria soon if not already, I don't know I'm only interested in Vanilla, however my friends talked me into Cataclysm for awhile and hated it.
- It's solid and stable
- It's never down (logged in last night to check)
- Graphics are beautiful
- Never crashes
- Always packed with players of every level and all zones !
- People are amazingly nice and helpful
- Close to no asshats for some odd reason
- Doesn't cost anything, download and make an account
In all the years I've played I could name the few broken quest (at least the ones I know of)
- Darkshore, tame a bear.... The bear will not follow
- Uldaman, the large stone statue boss is broken, I forget why
- The rogue quest line stops at the end (it's always been that way)
- All battle grounds are dead, could never get groups (never looked deep into this)
- Druids are too weak, and Paladins can't heal very well
So you can take the word "pristine" and shove it !
But since i am also petty and cruel i would pick as early version as i could and then spend a improper amount of time making sure that all the brokenness was put on front row just to kill the rose glow that many people have about how fun the game was...
And when they complain about it... I d simply tell them that this is what they asked for... =P
On a more serious level...
I guess that if i was tasked with doing it. I would find the most stable version of the classic server era and get that working. Then i would try to iron out the bugs and then just sit back and watch the mayhem.
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This have been a good conversation
1 Fix bugs
2 Repair all irritations that should have been done
3 At some point their should be an expansion
4 Give the players at least some small perks
- Monk Class
- Global chat at level 20
- A voice chat program
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