VR Development at CCP Games Comes to an End - EVE: Valkyrie - MMORPG.com

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VR Development at CCP Games Comes to an End - EVE: Valkyrie - MMORPG.com

EVE: Valkyrie News - The Atlanta, Georgia and Newcastle, England studios of CCP Games will be closing and / or sold off in the coming months as development on virtual reality titles is coming to an end. The news was broken by Icelandic site MBL.is that further reports that over a hundred employees are affected by the studio closures.

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Gobstopper3D

Not surprising really. I don't follow the porn industry, but unless they embrace it, that technology isn't going to go anywhere very quickly. If they get on board with it, I'm sure it will advance much faster and overall cost for consumer and industry will go down.

Until that happens, it's going to stay niche and be a risk for studios and I don't think many are willing to take it.

SBFord

https://forums.evevalkyrie.com/t/the-new-and-exciting-future-of-eve-valkyrie/7752/

UPDATE ON EVE: VALKYRIE'S FUTURE:

As you may have heard, we announced today that we are working with another company to transition the ownership of CCP’s Newcastle studio into new hands.

What does this mean for everyone’s favourite first-person spaceship shooter? Well, for starters we can confidently confirm that EVE: Valkyrie – Warzone is not going away. We love the game just as much as we love our players, so you can rest assured that we’ll continue to support the product into the future.

The development team at the Newcastle studio will remain intact and complete work on the upcoming Winter Update for EVE: Valkyrie – Warzone. So don’t panic! You’ll still receive in-game support for custom matches, tournament tools and a spectator mode before the end of this year.

Our CEO Hilmar Veigar Pétursson said, “I couldn’t be more proud of our VR games and, more importantly, of the people here who made them.” This statement rings true for everyone at CCP.

This is not the end of EVE: Valkyrie, not by a long shot. It’s the just the beginning of a new chapter.

Welcome to the next life.

jimmywolf

i knew VR was a gimmick long before the first unit sold an they tried hype it up as next level in entertainment. it is a shame when something you love is so niche they market can't sustain itself. maybe 10 year from now as cost comes down, it will be easier to bring it to market an gain a foothold. as it stand now thu it is a high cost low value investment, that a small minority will miss when it gone.

hfztt

So now Hilmar thinks the future is Mobile gaming...

* Sigh *

He never learns, does he?

SEANMCAD

The actual game itself Valkyrie which I played was terrible. That said, what I didnt like about it was AAA formula of controlling you with a story in your face for about 15 mins. I turned it off after about 10 mins of that bullshit

Kootur

VR has and always will be a gimmick at least in its current form. Getting a headset for 1k and then having to set up all the censors to make it work isn't practical also most of the games are crap anyway.

Major69er1

Valkyrie wasn't a very good game what would've been nice if they transformed eve into VR universe

Spiider

Yet another CCP blunder. They really do not deserve to be creators of EVE. How in the world did those guys come up with something that good and then mistake after mistake after mistake.

Kyleran

Spiider said:

Yet another CCP blunder. They really do not deserve to be creators of EVE. How in the world did those guys come up with something that good and then mistake after mistake after mistake.

Dumb luck?

Kootur

Spiider said:

Yet another CCP blunder. They really do not deserve to be creators of EVE. How in the world did those guys come up with something that good and then mistake after mistake after mistake.

They do alright with eve. I just wish it was more new user friendly.

postlarval

hfztt said:

So now Hilmar thinks the future is Mobile gaming...

* Sigh *

He never learns, does he?

That’s because it is. If you can’t see that, then the person not learning is YOU. 

Kyleran

postlarval said:

hfztt said:

So now Hilmar thinks the future is Mobile gaming...

* Sigh *

He never learns, does he?

That’s because it is. If you can’t see that, then the person not learning is YOU. 

Just like the future was console FPSers,  'VE gaming, and now, mobile games?

The problem isn't following the trends, CCP is just always too late to the party.

Coming up next, CCPs new MOBA.

Cobaltus

CCP: A one hit wonder. Dust 514 sucked and Valkyrie sucked. 

Xiaoki

Kyleran said:

postlarval said:

hfztt said:

So now Hilmar thinks the future is Mobile gaming...



* Sigh *



He never learns, does he?

That’s because it is. If you can’t see that, then the person not learning is YOU. 

Just like the future was console FPSers,  'VE gaming, and now, mobile games?

The problem isn't following the trends, CCP is just always too late to the party.

Coming up next, CCPs new MOBA.

And no matter what trend CCP arrives late to it'll be a bad game.

After 2 massive failures in a row perhaps CCP should just focus solely on Eve and funnel whatever money they were going to waste on an Eve expanded universe game into Eve.

Talonsin

In my opinion, the issue is that the team broke up. The original guys at CCP created a great board game that made enough money to finance the MMO and their MMO did well for a long time. Once the team broke up, they just could not seem to make anything work. World of Darkness, Dust and Valkyrie just did not hit the mark.

It just seems like the new guys at the top can not get their heads out of their rears. If they had created a board game for World of Darkness, I think that might have funded the MMO and if they had released Dust on PC where their playerbase was, it could have generated much more in revenue. If Valkyrie had been added to Eve in some way, it would have enticed more players back.

I dont think anyone from the old team is doing well after leaving CCP. Nathan Richardson went to work for Trion on Defiance and that went down hill. He then moved over to BD and worked on Warhammer Eternal Crusade and that did not go well.

It reminds me of when Van Halen broke up and they all went their separate ways and fizzled out.

Gdemami

Xiaoki said:

After 2 massive failures in a row perhaps CCP should just focus solely on Eve and funnel whatever money they were going to waste on an Eve expanded universe game into Eve.

You severely lack any business sense...

RolanStorm

Yet another DUST 514.

ianicus

I dont think this speaks to VR as much as it speaks to CCP's complete inability to make anything new.

Kyleran

Gdemami said:

Xiaoki said:

After 2 massive failures in a row perhaps CCP should just focus solely on Eve and funnel whatever money they were going to waste on an Eve expanded universe game into Eve.

You severely lack any business sense...

Apparently the same can be said about the people running the new games in development department at CCP.

mgilbrtsn

You cannot use this as some prophetic validation of the collapse of VR.  VR is just getting started and like any burgeoning industry, there are gonna be winners and losers.  From what I've read, it's the implementation that is at fault and not the medium.

Gdemami

Kyleran said:

Apparently the same can be said about the people running the new games in development department at CCP.

Not really....

Phaserlight

jimmywolf said:

i knew VR was a gimmick long before the first unit sold an they tried hype it up as next level in entertainment. it is a shame when something you love is so niche they market can't sustain itself. maybe 10 year from now as cost comes down, it will be easier to bring it to market an gain a foothold. as it stand now thu it is a high cost low value investment, that a small minority will miss when it gone.

Oh mmorpg.com, you are so goofy. 

Kootur said:

VR has and always will be a gimmick at least in its current form. Getting a headset for 1k and then having to set up all the censors to make it work isn't practical also most of the games are crap anyway.

Just wait. GVR has sold over 5 million units, and Oculus has several stand alone headsets in the works, one of which should be hitting the market next year for $200.

I'd say it's a bit of a stretch to even call it niche today, let alone a gimmick. 

Jakdstripper

Vr is not a gimmic. Anyone that was fortunate enough to try Skyrim with it can tell you that, if the game is good, VR makes it fantastic.
I was never even interested in Valkyre simply because there is already better VR space games like Elite. CCP just can't come up with anything unique and interesting anymore. Its flop after flop.

maskedweasel

Phaserlight said:

jimmywolf said:

i knew VR was a gimmick long before the first unit sold an they tried hype it up as next level in entertainment. it is a shame when something you love is so niche they market can't sustain itself. maybe 10 year from now as cost comes down, it will be easier to bring it to market an gain a foothold. as it stand now thu it is a high cost low value investment, that a small minority will miss when it gone.

Oh mmorpg.com, you are so goofy. 

Kootur said:

VR has and always will be a gimmick at least in its current form. Getting a headset for 1k and then having to set up all the censors to make it work isn't practical also most of the games are crap anyway.

Just wait. GVR has sold over 5 million units, and Oculus has several stand alone headsets in the works, one of which should be hitting the market next year for $200.

I'd say it's a bit of a stretch to even call it niche today, let alone a gimmick. 

It's not really a stretch, it's a very small Niche despite the mobile sales (gear VR was slated at 8Million units, so yes, way over 5 even if all unit sales combined didn't even total the Oculus Rift sales (revenue) amount and they didn't even sell 500K in all of 2016 - also keep in mind they gave a way millions of sets).  2017 was big in the notion to rethink market adoption.  VR was slated as being a large industry by 2020.  They believe "mainstream" market adoption will be pushed out farther.  

Despite this AR has also been pushed out a little. Headsets were supposed to hit the market this year, and they will, but not the big AR sets people were originally expecting.  That being said, Googles last reveal was much less about VR and had a lot about AR.

They are pushing AR adoption to next year 2018, and VR adoption to 2021.  I guess we'll see if the ..8th... times the charm on analysts expectations.

postlarval

Jakdstripper said:

Vr is not a gimmic. Anyone that was fortunate enough to try Skyrim with it can tell you that, if the game is good, VR makes it fantastic.
I was never even interested in Valkyre simply because there is already better VR space games like Elite. CCP just can't come up with anything unique and interesting anymore. Its flop after flop.

Just because people think VR is “fantastic” doesn’t mean it's not a gimmick.