3.0 should be the judgement point. If what they release then start to look like a real game, with meaningful instance sizes, meaningful gameplay and an acceptable stable engine, then I see sufficient reason to belive they will actually reach the goal line and deliver and an at least passable game. Hell it might even end up a great game, though the free play sessions still have not given me reason to think so.
I don't fit into any of those boxes, or pie categories, and I don't agree of the labeling or the said motives either. It's much more complex and many more motives, plus a blend of motives for many people too. As usual, the goons make nice figures but with poor content.
Perhaps we should ask Gorf if he'll put a new section in for snowflakes that spend $20,000+ on $60 computer games?
I've told you before, in these forums, that I haven't spent $20,000+ but you still continue with attacking me with untrue slander made from loose gossip and thin air. Besides, it's all you can do when you reply to me - use derogatory terms (remember in MOP?) or personal attack ... Stop this! If you don't have anything else to contribute with in a discussion then don't participate at all.
Why don't you stick to the topic and answer OP's question instead:
My view of SC falls into the sceptic/agnostic bracket, where do you see yourself?
I knew this thread would degenerate into namecalling of other debattants when I saw it. Because, most people are unable to restrain themselves and don't have the necessary discipline to stay on topic.
I'm not attacking you with untrue slander, I'm just repeating something you have written.
I just find the idea of spending that much money on a computer game quite funny. But I've had my laugh and won't say anything more about it.
I never said I've spent $20,000+. If you read carefully in that image you posted of a forum debate you'll see that's not true. I'm not really interested in what you think about how much I spend on this and that. And laugh? What's there to laugh about, me? You're attacking me with untrue slander and trying to make me the laughing stock. Going for the man instead of the ball.
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I don't fit into any of those boxes, or pie categories, and I don't agree of the labeling or the said motives either. It's much more complex and many more motives, plus a blend of motives for many people too. As usual, the goons make nice figures but with poor content.
Perhaps we should ask Gorf if he'll put a new section in for snowflakes that spend $20,000+ on $60 computer games?
I've told you before, in these forums, that I haven't spent $20,000+ but you still continue with attacking me with untrue slander made from loose gossip and thin air. Besides, it's all you can do when you reply to me - use derogatory terms (remember in MOP?) or personal attack ... Stop this! If you don't have anything else to contribute with in a discussion then don't participate at all.
Why don't you stick to the topic and answer OP's question instead:
My view of SC falls into the sceptic/agnostic bracket, where do you see yourself?
I knew this thread would degenerate into namecalling of other debattants when I saw it. Because, most people are unable to restrain themselves and don't have the necessary discipline to stay on topic.
I'm not attacking you with untrue slander, I'm just repeating something you have written.
I just find the idea of spending that much money on a computer game quite funny. But I've had my laugh and won't say anything more about it.
I never said I've spent $20,000+. If you read carefully in that image you posted of a forum debate you'll see that's not true. I'm not really interested in what you think about how much I spend on this and that. And laugh? What's there to laugh about, me? You're attacking me with untrue slander and trying to make me the laughing stock. Going for the man instead of the ball.
Libelous. The word you are wanting to use is libelous, not slanderous.
Kinda a pet peeve of mine.
EDIT: Before anyone chimes in, yes I realize that Internet defamation is still a grey area. But for me forums do meet the same standards as a newspaper or magazine.
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
To be fair you said 18k which is much closer to 20k than $60 and that does appear to be a pretty old screenshot so who knows what the current figure is.
Don't worry about it, if you're happy spending that money then that's up to you. I can't say I think it's a particularly wise decision but it's not my money or circumstances.
What is funny (or sad) is that people still do not understand what motivates Goons... As the WOPR once said "The only winning move is not to play"
In the community side, they get the reactions they want. In places like this, they get the highlight they look for.
It's just beyond control really, the way this is, is that say when on Reddit there was big discussions criticizing CIG on specific topics, they even send that to the media so get game can get bad press and things can be blown to a proportion like the community is revolving, etc...
Another thing I've seen was intentionally reporting the company to several authorities or even other companies (say when they based a concept art from external art/assets) to attempt to get something to happen that could potentially harm the company.
That and the fake leaks and CIG sources that are widely advertised which is one massive fear monger campaign that has been causing confusion even within the community.
The goons have set their target, and as we seen (for who is aware) in past examples and current reality of things, they will not stop, some took this beyond just poking fun.
You still don't get it...
Their true target isn't Star Citizen... its folks like you. As long as you play their game, you lose. Believe me, the very last thing the Goons want is for SC to fold. This is nirvana for them.
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Their true target isn't Star Citizen... its folks like you. As long as you play their game, you lose. Believe me, the very last thing the Goons want is for SC to fold. This is nirvana for them.
Well, the creation of this thread provides attention to the stuff they make, the more attention the more motivated they are to continue. And I disagree on not wanting SC to fail, there's a reason why drama llamas of epic proportions would be a dream come true.
But as it stands to provoke the fans it is, there is no way to not play their game because simply, it's just too widely spread, especially when what they do is even sent and spread on the media, there's no way people are not going to react to them.
Their true target isn't Star Citizen... its folks like you. As long as you play their game, you lose. Believe me, the very last thing the Goons want is for SC to fold. This is nirvana for them.
Well, the creation of this thread provides attention to the stuff they make, the more attention the more motivated they are to continue. And I disagree on not wanting SC to fail, there's a reason why drama llamas of epic proportions would be a dream come true.
But as it stands to provoke the fans it is, there is no way to not play their game because simply, it's just too widely spread, especially when what they do is even sent and spread on the media, there's no way people are not going to react to them.
They know their audience. The internet loves its drama.
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Their true target isn't Star Citizen... its folks like you. As long as you play their game, you lose. Believe me, the very last thing the Goons want is for SC to fold. This is nirvana for them.
Well, the creation of this thread provides attention to the stuff they make, the more attention the more motivated they are to continue. And I disagree on not wanting SC to fail, there's a reason why drama llamas of epic proportions would be a dream come true.
But as it stands to provoke the fans it is, there is no way to not play their game because simply, it's just too widely spread, especially when what they do is even sent and spread on the media, there's no way people are not going to react to them.
Oh there are plenty of ways. One is called self-control. Another would be not becoming personally attached to a video game. As Azaron said, they know their audience well and they know that some folks will always be weak and take the bait. The second you make the choice (and it's absolutely a choice) to play their game... they win.
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Oh there are plenty of ways. One is called self-control. Another would be not becoming personally attached to a video game. As Azaron said, they know their audience well and they know that some folks will always be weak and take the bait. The second you make the choice (and it's absolutely a choice) to play their game... they win.
Pretty normal if you ask me, these site forums are about taking the bait, without it there'd be barely any discussion.
Though sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between a legitimate critic engaging into a discussion and goons pretending to be legitimate critics trying to troll and instigate drama.
Pretty normal if you ask me, these site forums are about taking the bait, without it there'd be barely any discussion.
Very true.
Before the Mods here cracked down on the Trolling of SC their were almost daily threads numbering in pages each on how much of a scam SC was. It drove a lot of traffic I'm sure to this site.
I miss those days. It was much more enjoyable to browse here but much less informative. But I do enjoy Forum PvP as I have stated before.
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
Their true target isn't Star Citizen... its folks like you. As long as you play their game, you lose. Believe me, the very last thing the Goons want is for SC to fold. This is nirvana for them.
You do not get it.
The Goons are addicts. It is pathetic.
There have been times when no one played their game. So they played EACH other. Cheated each other, stole their things from each other .... Told each other to f** o** and watch ra** po** .... then they banned each other (and thats something in SA and 4chan) ... and the circle started anew.
They do not even NEED an audience. They are their OWN audience if no one listens to them...
That brings them over the lean times when no one responds to their trolling ....
If SC would fold, they just find the next "victim" game and let it rain pink di*** from the sky there ......(again).....
Their true target isn't Star Citizen... its folks like you. As long as you play their game, you lose. Believe me, the very last thing the Goons want is for SC to fold. This is nirvana for them.
You do not get it.
The Goons are addicts. It is pathetic.
There have been times when no one played their game. So they played EACH other. Cheated each other, stole their things from each other .... Told each other to f** o** and watch ra** po** .... then they banned each other (and thats something in SA and 4chan) ... and the circle started anew.
They do not even NEED an audience. They are their OWN audience if no one listens to them...
That brings them over the lean times when no one responds to their trolling ....
If SC would fold, they just find the next "victim" game and let it rain pink di*** from the sky there ......(again).....
Have fun
LOL. Target audience.
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Ahh the Goons, I would say "A pox on their house". If I did not believe they would put gum boots on and jump around in the POX like a Peppa Pig in a muddy puddle.
They do not want SC to fail as such, not until its been out for a year or so, so they can be their usual tactical selves and destroy it from within, or hold games makers to some sort of Faustian pact. I actually enjoy the Goons being involved in the games I play, I love a pantomime villain to fight or counter, and have added flavour, however like all things sometimes they revel in their own notoriety and go to far, despite them thinking there is never a "To Far".
I don't fit into any of those boxes, or pie categories, and I don't agree of the labeling or the said motives either. It's much more complex and many more motives, plus a blend of motives for many people too. As usual, the goons make nice figures but with poor content.
Perhaps we should ask Gorf if he'll put a new section in for snowflakes that spend $20,000+ on $60 computer games?
I've told you before, in these forums, that I haven't spent $20,000+ but you still continue with attacking me with untrue slander made from loose gossip and thin air. Besides, it's all you can do when you reply to me - use derogatory terms (remember in MOP?) or personal attack ... Stop this! If you don't have anything else to contribute with in a discussion then don't participate at all.
Why don't you stick to the topic and answer OP's question instead:
My view of SC falls into the sceptic/agnostic bracket, where do you see yourself?
I knew this thread would degenerate into namecalling of other debattants when I saw it. Because, most people are unable to restrain themselves and don't have the necessary discipline to stay on topic.
I'm not attacking you with untrue slander, I'm just repeating something you have written.
I just find the idea of spending that much money on a computer game quite funny. But I've had my laugh and won't say anything more about it.
I never said I've spent $20,000+. If you read carefully in that image you posted of a forum debate you'll see that's not true. I'm not really interested in what you think about how much I spend on this and that. And laugh? What's there to laugh about, me? You're attacking me with untrue slander and trying to make me the laughing stock. Going for the man instead of the ball.
lol love it when someone is shown proof of what they said and they still try to play the victim.
I dont know what voice I fall under but the people that have paid to EA for eyars in this game have such a gigantic advantage over anyone else that once the game launches there is really no point in the rest of us playing.
lol love it when someone is shown proof of what they said and they still try to play the victim.
To be fair there's a rather circle-jerking behavior on this.
@Cotic brought that uncalled for what hints me it's about slander @Vikingir, I really don't see a reason to pursue such (because it's not the first time he has a go at him in this forum because of how much money he has spent).
lol love it when someone is shown proof of what they said and they still try to play the victim.
To be fair there's a rather circle-jerking behavior on this.
@Cotic brought that uncalled for what hints me it's about slander @Vikingir, I really don't see a reason to pursue such (because it's not the first time he has a go at him in this forum because of how much money he has spent).
It's only libel (slander is spoken word so unless they are speaking to each other then it's libel) if what he says causes damage to their reputation. Since that would be an impossibility in a forum where you are mostly anonymous then no libel is happening and really we are just laughing at his poor attempts to play the victim
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Kinda a pet peeve of mine.
EDIT: Before anyone chimes in, yes I realize that Internet defamation is still a grey area. But for me forums do meet the same standards as a newspaper or magazine.
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
Don't worry about it, if you're happy spending that money then that's up to you. I can't say I think it's a particularly wise decision but it's not my money or circumstances.
Their true target isn't Star Citizen... its folks like you. As long as you play their game, you lose. Believe me, the very last thing the Goons want is for SC to fold. This is nirvana for them.
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"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
But as it stands to provoke the fans it is, there is no way to not play their game because simply, it's just too widely spread, especially when what they do is even sent and spread on the media, there's no way people are not going to react to them.
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All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Though sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between a legitimate critic engaging into a discussion and goons pretending to be legitimate critics trying to troll and instigate drama.
Before the Mods here cracked down on the Trolling of SC their were almost daily threads numbering in pages each on how much of a scam SC was. It drove a lot of traffic I'm sure to this site.
I miss those days.
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
The Goons are addicts. It is pathetic.
There have been times when no one played their game. So they played EACH other. Cheated each other, stole their things from each other .... Told each other to f** o** and watch ra** po** .... then they banned each other (and thats something in SA and 4chan) ... and the circle started anew.
They do not even NEED an audience. They are their OWN audience if no one listens to them...
That brings them over the lean times when no one responds to their trolling ....
If SC would fold, they just find the next "victim" game and let it rain pink di*** from the sky there ......(again).....
Have fun
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Have fun
As long as you insist on playing their game.. they win.
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They do not want SC to fail as such, not until its been out for a year or so, so they can be their usual tactical selves and destroy it from within, or hold games makers to some sort of Faustian pact.
I actually enjoy the Goons being involved in the games I play, I love a pantomime villain to fight or counter, and have added flavour, however like all things sometimes they revel in their own notoriety and go to far, despite them thinking there is never a "To Far".
@Cotic brought that uncalled for what hints me it's about slander @Vikingir, I really don't see a reason to pursue such (because it's not the first time he has a go at him in this forum because of how much money he has spent).
And they still think they are winning ... priceless ! :-D
Have fun
Goons thrive on making people react and damn they hit a gold mine with the SC community.
This is a perfect example.
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