Quantcast

Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

Are we fed up with these survival games?

12346

Comments

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,774
    Distopia said:

    Wow... That's not something I'd expect to hear from you. We're idiots for liking a game style you do not? 





    You are not new to this forum, right? We are all idiots if we don't like ffa-pvp, forced group, perma-death, p2p, solo, f2p, sandbox, .... accordingly at least one member here. This is just the latest. Talking about toxic community (in the other thread) .. this is another good example.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 28,614
    bartoni33 said:
     If game publisher can make money making copy-cat games, what is it to you?
    Money drives development. If idiots keep lapping up shitty games like a parched man yearns for water then they will continue to make them. Developers are a finite group. So are the folks they are making games for. They will always go for the easy buck. Regurgitating the same style of games is killing the quality of all games.

    TL;DR I hate survival games. Fucking make something else. B)
    Yeah, I have friends who think anyone playing video games is wasting their time and could be doing anything else to make their lives more meaningful and "better".

    I know a woman who said that every time she sees a guy playing a game on a phone she wants to slap it from his hands and say "grow up and be a man for ******'S sake"

    There's always someone who looks down at the hobbies of others so "welcome to the group fellow idiot".
    DistopiaManWithNoTanKyleran
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    I get a kick out of people who play High Fantasy grid fest MMOs the same way they did 10 years ago calling survial games 'copy and paste'
    DistopiaOctagon7711

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,320
    I'm not a all or nothing guy.  I look at the games individually to see if I would enjoy it or not.  However, having played a few now, I'm more selective, now that I've got more experience.  What might have been good a couple years ago, I wouldn't accept now.
    TorvalOctagon7711

    Concentrate on enjoying yourself, and not on why I shouldn't enjoy myself.

  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,960
    Not fed up but not really interested in the current lot all that much either. The survival part seems too gamified and some of the common core systems also seem crude (like the harvesting and taming).

    I'm more interested in shared persistent world games (massively or not). I'm hoping various games like that take off. I really like the format for SWL. I would love to see an AD&D 5e persistent shared world. There are so many possibilities with this.

    Distopia
    Fedora - A modern, free, and open source Operating System. https://getfedora.org/

    traveller, interloper, anomaly, iteration


  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,960
    SEANMCAD said:
    I get a kick out of people who play High Fantasy grid fest MMOs the same way they did 10 years ago calling survival games 'copy and paste'
    It doesn't make their point or yours less true, but what we should ask ourselves if that's satisfactory. If the systems are crude now and see little to no progress in refining them should we continue to encourage that? Should we encourage developers of emerging sub-genres to perpetuate developing crude systems and then letting them languish?

    I'm not okay with taking that position. I would prefer to encourage those systems be refined. I get that reality isn't there, but that doesn't mean it should be what we strive for.
    Fedora - A modern, free, and open source Operating System. https://getfedora.org/

    traveller, interloper, anomaly, iteration


  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,967
    I'm not fed up and see a lot of potential in some of them.  It's like a wilderness version of The Sims.

    "We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa      "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."  SR Covey

  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited July 2017
    Torval said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    I get a kick out of people who play High Fantasy grid fest MMOs the same way they did 10 years ago calling survival games 'copy and paste'
    It doesn't make their point or yours less true, but what we should ask ourselves if that's satisfactory. If the systems are crude now and see little to no progress in refining them should we continue to encourage that? Should we encourage developers of emerging sub-genres to perpetuate developing crude systems and then letting them languish?

    I'm not okay with taking that position. I would prefer to encourage those systems be refined. I get that reality isn't there, but that doesn't mean it should be what we strive for.
    the real irony is that I am someone who is perfectly fine with F2P model with whales and yet not a single game I play has it.
    I think there is a reason for that, I think its target demographics.

    The 'core' problem from the gamers side of things is the need to stop playing games they complain about and be more open minded about trying something outside of the hyper hype hyper sticker of approval, regardless of what that feature is.

    I also think far too many gamers concern themselves far to much with what other gamers are doing and clearly the same could be said about me as well 


    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Distopia said:
    Wow... That's not something I'd expect to hear from you. We're idiots for liking a game style you do not? 

    The Survival genre is the perfect alternative in my eyes. AT least for those who like conflict with a base rooted in ownership.Yet don't want to spend countless hours grinding on mundane content to become effective in that style of play (as MMORPGs usually represent such play). It's the right mix of PVP with open world game-play as well as clan related conquest.

     It's more hands on and interactive than your typical deathmatch game, yet not as time consuming as an MMORPG. It's existence and popularity makes perfect sense. 

    Considering that it's still a relatively new Genre, it's just getting started really. Might as well get used to that. 
    While I havn't played one really good myself I certainly agree there is potential in it. And there are already a few distinct styles, some with brutal PvP and many players while others are more PvE focused and about surviving in a tough environment.

    I certainly will wait with judging the genre myself until we see where it is going and even then it is on my personal judgment, not my place to tell everyone that a certain genre sucks or reign.

    Sadly in my case the survival game I had most fun in so far is: Don't starve together... 
    Distopia
  • saintriku92saintriku92 Member UncommonPosts: 87
    I think the major reason survival games tend to suck is they are always unfinished alphas xD. Although i have had quite a bit of fun in a few of them i agree that they do have they're flaws. But i got my moneys worth with rust, minecraft, 7 days to die, and a few others i cant think of.
    Kyleran
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    I think the major reason survival games tend to suck is they are always unfinished alphas xD. Although i have had quite a bit of fun in a few of them i agree that they do have they're flaws. But i got my moneys worth with rust, minecraft, 7 days to die, and a few others i cant think of.
    the unfinished survial games i have played are better than the big budget AAA games I used to play.

    many of them very much do not 'suck'

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • saintriku92saintriku92 Member UncommonPosts: 87
    SEANMCAD said:
    I think the major reason survival games tend to suck is they are always unfinished alphas xD. Although i have had quite a bit of fun in a few of them i agree that they do have they're flaws. But i got my moneys worth with rust, minecraft, 7 days to die, and a few others i cant think of.
    the unfinished survial games i have played are better than the big budget AAA games I used to play.

    many of them very much do not 'suck'
    Right, i was just saying they have they're bad eggs like AAA games. not arguing :)
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited July 2017
    SEANMCAD said:
    I think the major reason survival games tend to suck is they are always unfinished alphas xD. Although i have had quite a bit of fun in a few of them i agree that they do have they're flaws. But i got my moneys worth with rust, minecraft, 7 days to die, and a few others i cant think of.
    the unfinished survial games i have played are better than the big budget AAA games I used to play.

    many of them very much do not 'suck'
    Right, i was just saying they have they're bad eggs like AAA games. not arguing :)
    that doesnt sound like what you said. here is a quote:
     'I think the major reason survival games tend to suck is they are always unfinished alphas'

     that doesnt sound like the position you are trying to have now

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • saintriku92saintriku92 Member UncommonPosts: 87
    I also wrote that ive had fun in a handful of them, But there is also a handful of garbage out there?
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited July 2017
    I also wrote that ive had fun in a handful of them, But there is also a handful of garbage out there?
    ok fair enough but I want to break down what you said and I want to illustrate

     'I think the major reason survival games tend to suck....
     (that isnt a statement of 'some of them' its a game that implies all of them)

    'is they are always unfinished alphas'
     (key word here is the word 'always')

     I would like it if people would stop painting the worst picture and the try to later bring it back to the center. but I likely will never get that.

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • saintriku92saintriku92 Member UncommonPosts: 87
    Stop caring so much?
    TorvalDagon13RufusUO
  • dougha1dougha1 Member UncommonPosts: 152
    I blame Minecraft, with its survival mode.  :D
    This forum is broken. It is time to move to proboards, because they're broken.
  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,774
    Torval said:
     If the systems are crude now and see little to no progress in refining them should we continue to encourage that? Should we encourage developers of emerging sub-genres to perpetuate developing crude systems and then letting them languish?


    I don't think we "should" do anything. If a dev produces a game i like, i play it. Otherwise not. 

    There is enough entertainment that i do not feel necessarily to "encourage" anything or letting anything "languish". Plus, i doubt $20 from me makes any difference anyway.

  • DrDread74DrDread74 Member UncommonPosts: 308
    PlayerUnlnowns Battlegrounds is a survival game but its played in 15 minutes and is quite unique and entertaining. In Ark you punch trees whiling eating your own feces for days at a time. They are quite different. 

    Survival is a Genre. Some are good and some are bad but if you don't like "Survival" type games you cant't knock the entire gene.

    Its like saying "Are we done with all these RPGs? They are all the same. Make a character, level up and grind to spend point to increase your characters power. Do quests and then craft grind" 

    or

    "Man aren't you you tired of all these Marvel movies yet? Its the same thing, a bunch of awesome superheroes engaging in wide ranging stories and creative and fun action scenes. "

    or

    "Are we done with all these porno movies? I mean they are the same thing, a women is alone at home and then the pizza man shows up....."

    Quake was a First Person shooter and so is Destiny, and 4,234,123E+21 games between it. If you like FPS games then the genre never gets old.
    Distopia

    http://baronsofthegalaxy.com/
     An MMO game I created, solo. It's live now and absolutely free to play!
  • BruceYeeBruceYee Member EpicPosts: 1,951
    I want Blizzard to make one that is called Warcraft: Orcs Vs Humans like their original game. You can start out by picking either orc or human in a huge open world with realistic gfx. The main reason I want them to make one though is for their signature polish and possibly limited number of cheaters that exist in large amounts in every other survival game.
  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,320
    I don't think ppl know what survival games are these days.  Play Missile Command or Donkey Kong... No more quarters, no more saved place.  U be Dead!  Those games were like real life.  You ran out of money, and you were out of the arcade and in the street!!!  hahahaaha, survival games.

    Play dodgeball, you're too slow, POW!!!!, you're out.  Survive by using your buddy as a shield.... Thats survival

    :)
    Torval

    Concentrate on enjoying yourself, and not on why I shouldn't enjoy myself.

  • hupahupa Member UncommonPosts: 80
    edited July 2017
    I'm just fed up with the unpolished poop they release as early access.

    Early access should be a paid beta access, nothing before that. Not when you type in int main() on your first day.

    https://twitter.com/grumpygamer/status/867048107300634625
  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,960
    Torval said:
    If the systems are crude now and see little to no progress in refining them should we continue to encourage that? Should we encourage developers of emerging sub-genres to perpetuate developing crude systems and then letting them languish?
    I don't think we "should" do anything. If a dev produces a game i like, i play it. Otherwise not. There is enough entertainment that i do not feel necessarily to "encourage" anything or letting anything "languish". Plus, i doubt $20 from me makes any difference anyway.
      If ambivalence and fatalism work for you great. It doesn't for me.

    Kyleran
    Fedora - A modern, free, and open source Operating System. https://getfedora.org/

    traveller, interloper, anomaly, iteration


  • JDis25JDis25 Member RarePosts: 1,351
    edited July 2017
    My main complaint with Survival games, is why do they all have the most boring FPS style combat? Why can't they have combat similar to BDO or something?
    Now Playing: Bless / Summoners War
    Looking forward to: Crowfall / Lost Ark / Black Desert Mobile
  • RhoklawRhoklaw Member EpicPosts: 7,138
    edited July 2017
    In my honest opinion, I rather enjoy the sandbox survival games, because they offer a lot of what I enjoy about gaming. A decent amount of PvE, loads of gathers and crafting and a small community. MMOs are no longer the driving force of online gaming. Sure, they will still make MMOs for many years, but not like they used to.

    We all have our own personal desires when it comes to what we like in our games. I for one think 95% of PvP games are garbage due to consistent cheating, ganking, exploiting, griefing and of course, my favorite, F2P cash shop shenanigans.
    GolelornAzaron_Nightblade

Sign In or Register to comment.