Might as well keep playing Albion...

MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member RarePosts: 1,855
Well, I bought the game in EA, so I might as well play it now.  Not like I have any other MMO releases to play.  Question:  In hours, or days, how much PvE grinding time does it take before you get to the PvP part of the game?


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  • RenoakuRenoaku Member RarePosts: 2,492
    edited July 2017
    Um that depends which route you go if you are like me a huge crafter and go Jack OF All Trades maybe a week to get everything to level 4 if you play hours a day many hours... Might take longert if doing all crafts, refining, resource gathering, and fighting skills.

    If you just want to PVP and you got a guild to level you and don't have to harvest or anything just straight up fighter not long at all tier 4 in like a few days max, and tier 8 not too long to get to.
    Post edited by Renoaku on
  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member RarePosts: 1,855
    Yeah, I don't plan to gather or craft at all.  Just combat.
    MrMelGibson
  • RenoakuRenoaku Member RarePosts: 2,492
    edited July 2017
    Yeah, I don't plan to gather or craft at all.  Just combat.
    Yep then not long if you just spec for one role in combat one set of weapons for long doesn't take long at all.

    And if your playing imo the only best thing about the game is crafting, and PVP / Black Zone, everything else just sucks because like every other game has better PVE just my view of the game Black Zone though full loot is the best.
    Post edited by Renoaku on
  • Viper482Viper482 Somewhere, FLMember RarePosts: 1,791
    Settling on your build is the hardest part.
    KyleranTorvalforcelimaMrMelGibson
  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member RarePosts: 1,855
    I was thinking about a Warbow or Crossbow.  I tried Fire Mage and it didn't really do it for me.
    MrMelGibson
  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 15,370
    Viper482 said:
    Settling on your build is the hardest part.
    That needs to be stated again.

    For me at least, the most interesting part of the game is the weapons and armour combos. We were talking about that in guild chat tonight. At first it doesn't take much to unlock a lot but I can see the rabbit hole of specialization looming before me.
    forcelimablueturtle13mgilbrtsnMrMelGibson
  • BruceYeeBruceYee Member RarePosts: 1,127
    If you don't craft your own weapons and armor you will have to buy them from other players for silver.

    +

    If you plan to PVP you will lose your weapons and armor when you die.

    Getting to Adept Gear is not hard and can be done in a few days of farming if you focus on one set of gear + weapon.
    KyleranMrMelGibson
  • CopperfieldCopperfield RotterdamMember UncommonPosts: 574
    i dont understand how people can play these kinda games..

    heavy instanced
    max 5vs5 combat
    designed around mobile gaming
    epic grinding
    prolly upcoming p2w elements because of mobile design

    its not the companies faults tho, its the players fault who keep supporting crap games and buying early access games

    And you wonder why there are no good mmo's to play


    Gdemamibeebop500
  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 27,164
    i dont understand how people can play these kinda games..

    heavy instanced
    max 5vs5 combat
    designed around mobile gaming
    epic grinding
    prolly upcoming p2w elements because of mobile design

    its not the companies faults tho, its the players fault who keep supporting crap games and buying early access games

    And you wonder why there are no good mmo's to play


    I find it is usually better to get your facts straight before passing judgement on a game.

    Yours are a bit off.
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  • ElsaboltsElsabolts Anderson, InMember RarePosts: 3,231
    Kyleran said:
    i dont understand how people can play these kinda games..

    heavy instanced
    max 5vs5 combat
    designed around mobile gaming
    epic grinding
    prolly upcoming p2w elements because of mobile design

    its not the companies faults tho, its the players fault who keep supporting crap games and buying early access games

    And you wonder why there are no good mmo's to play


    I find it is usually better to get your facts straight before passing judgement on a game.

    Yours are a bit off.

    Your being nice again Kyleran, did you see my message ?
    " Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Those Who  Would Threaten It "
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  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 27,164
    edited July 2017
    Elsabolts said:
    Kyleran said:
    i dont understand how people can play these kinda games..

    heavy instanced
    max 5vs5 combat
    designed around mobile gaming
    epic grinding
    prolly upcoming p2w elements because of mobile design

    its not the companies faults tho, its the players fault who keep supporting crap games and buying early access games

    And you wonder why there are no good mmo's to play


    I find it is usually better to get your facts straight before passing judgement on a game.

    Yours are a bit off.

    Your being nice again Kyleran, did you see my message ?
    I did see your post Elsa, was thinking of replying just this morning, as I have a few questions 

    I am trying to tone it down a bit, as I am almost 60 I decided to make some willful changes on my approach to several areas of my life.

    TLDR version. I'm just trying to not be  intentionally unhappy and working on learning and embracing new ideas and technologies instead of being the sterotypical "older person" that has let the world pass them by.

    Yeah, I know, still a work in progress  ;)
    Post edited by Kyleran on
    TorvalMrMelGibsonlaserit

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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 15,370
    Kyleran said:
    Elsabolts said:
    Kyleran said:
    i dont understand how people can play these kinda games..

    heavy instanced
    max 5vs5 combat
    designed around mobile gaming
    epic grinding
    prolly upcoming p2w elements because of mobile design

    its not the companies faults tho, its the players fault who keep supporting crap games and buying early access games

    And you wonder why there are no good mmo's to play


    I find it is usually better to get your facts straight before passing judgement on a game.

    Yours are a bit off.

    Your being nice again Kyleran, did you see my message ?
    I did see your post Elsa, was thinking of replying just this morning, as I have a few questions 

    I am trying to tone it down a bit, as I am almost 60 I decided to make some willful changes on my approach to several areas of my life.

    TLDR version. I'm just trying to not be  intentionally unhappy and working on learning and embracing new ideas and technologies instead of being the sterotypical "older person" that has let the world pass them by.

    Yeah, I know, still a work in progress  ;)
    You should download the game and join us in Kings Never Die. We're just a place to hang out and help each other when that works out.
    MrMelGibson
  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member RarePosts: 1,855
    Will it be prohibitively expensive to just buy my own gear for PvP?  I'm not much of a gatherer or crafter.  Also, does full loot mean that people just generally wear worthless junk for PvP, because they're going to end up losing it anyway?


    MrMelGibson
  • ElsaboltsElsabolts Anderson, InMember RarePosts: 3,231
    edited July 2017
    Kyleran said:
    Elsabolts said:
    Kyleran said:
    i dont understand how people can play these kinda games..

    heavy instanced
    max 5vs5 combat
    designed around mobile gaming
    epic grinding
    prolly upcoming p2w elements because of mobile design

    its not the companies faults tho, its the players fault who keep supporting crap games and buying early access games

    And you wonder why there are no good mmo's to play


    I find it is usually better to get your facts straight before passing judgement on a game.

    Yours are a bit off.

    Your being nice again Kyleran, did you see my message ?
    I did see your post Elsa, was thinking of replying just this morning, as I have a few questions 

    I am trying to tone it down a bit, as I am almost 60 I decided to make some willful changes on my approach to several areas of my life.

    TLDR version. I'm just trying to not be  intentionally unhappy and working on learning and embracing new ideas and technologies instead of being the sterotypical "older person" that has let the world pass them by.

    Yeah, I know, still a work in progress  ;)

    LoL I'm 66 Kyleran but I refuse to ajust. My mind says I'm 30 the body not so much.
    Post edited by Elsabolts on
    MrMelGibsonobii
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  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 27,164
    Will it be prohibitively expensive to just buy my own gear for PvP?  I'm not much of a gatherer or crafter.  Also, does full loot mean that people just generally wear worthless junk for PvP, because they're going to end up losing it anyway?

    Its been my experience in other full loot gear people will wear good gear when they believe there is little risk of loss.

    I expect fights to be largely unbalanced affairs with smart players following a standard rule I learned in EVE, if you ever find yourself in a fair fight you've done something terribly wrong. ;)

    "Harbinger of Failure"

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    On hiatus from EVE Online since Dec 2016 - CCP continues to wander aimlessly

    In my day MMORPG's were so hard we fought our way through dungeons in the snow, uphill both ways.

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  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member RarePosts: 1,855
    LOL, OK.  Also, when you enter a PvP zone, is it always through a set gateway?  Is there any mechanism in place to stop people from jumping you the second you zone in?
  • RenoakuRenoaku Member RarePosts: 2,492
    edited July 2017
    LOL, OK.  Also, when you enter a PvP zone, is it always through a set gateway?  Is there any mechanism in place to stop people from jumping you the second you zone in?
    There is but there is a known exploit where people or groups will kill you anyways not sure if its fixed yet.

    Also areas are clearly marked by zone color and it should give you a warning before entering a pvp zone.
    Post edited by Renoaku on
  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 27,164
    Torval said:
    Kyleran said:
    Elsabolts said:
    Kyleran said:
    i dont understand how people can play these kinda games..

    heavy instanced
    max 5vs5 combat
    designed around mobile gaming
    epic grinding
    prolly upcoming p2w elements because of mobile design

    its not the companies faults tho, its the players fault who keep supporting crap games and buying early access games

    And you wonder why there are no good mmo's to play


    I find it is usually better to get your facts straight before passing judgement on a game.

    Yours are a bit off.

    Your being nice again Kyleran, did you see my message ?
    I did see your post Elsa, was thinking of replying just this morning, as I have a few questions 

    I am trying to tone it down a bit, as I am almost 60 I decided to make some willful changes on my approach to several areas of my life.

    TLDR version. I'm just trying to not be  intentionally unhappy and working on learning and embracing new ideas and technologies instead of being the sterotypical "older person" that has let the world pass them by.

    Yeah, I know, still a work in progress  ;)
    You should download the game and join us in Kings Never Die. We're just a place to hang out and help each other when that works out.
    Yeah, but you know me, a bit obsessive about playing one game at a time.

    Still working on that, despite having 3 new games I'm only playing the first one I downloaded. 

    Maybe I'll try to break another paradigm this weekend.  ;)
    blueturtle13MrMelGibsonManWithNoTanTorval

    "Harbinger of Failure"

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    On hiatus from EVE Online since Dec 2016 - CCP continues to wander aimlessly

    In my day MMORPG's were so hard we fought our way through dungeons in the snow, uphill both ways.

    Fools find no pleasure in understanding, but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

    Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
    "This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon





  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson USAMember EpicPosts: 2,395
    edited July 2017
    Kyleran said:
    Torval said:
    Kyleran said:
    Elsabolts said:
    Kyleran said:
    i dont understand how people can play these kinda games..

    heavy instanced
    max 5vs5 combat
    designed around mobile gaming
    epic grinding
    prolly upcoming p2w elements because of mobile design

    its not the companies faults tho, its the players fault who keep supporting crap games and buying early access games

    And you wonder why there are no good mmo's to play


    I find it is usually better to get your facts straight before passing judgement on a game.

    Yours are a bit off.

    Your being nice again Kyleran, did you see my message ?
    I did see your post Elsa, was thinking of replying just this morning, as I have a few questions 

    I am trying to tone it down a bit, as I am almost 60 I decided to make some willful changes on my approach to several areas of my life.

    TLDR version. I'm just trying to not be  intentionally unhappy and working on learning and embracing new ideas and technologies instead of being the sterotypical "older person" that has let the world pass them by.

    Yeah, I know, still a work in progress  ;)
    You should download the game and join us in Kings Never Die. We're just a place to hang out and help each other when that works out.
    Yeah, but you know me, a bit obsessive about playing one game at a time.

    Still working on that, despite having 3 new games I'm only playing the first one I downloaded. 

    Maybe I'll try to break another paradigm this weekend.  ;)
    I find the trick to this is to get a couple (or few) games that are very different.  For example, atm I'm rotating between Fallout 4 (Shooter/rpg), X-Com 2 replay (Strategy rpg) and ESO and occasional SWL (MMOs).  If they are different enough. You can just choose which genre you feel like playing that night.  

    Focusing on a really good game is also good if you are really into it.  Just my .02
    Post edited by MrMelGibson on
    KyleranTorval
  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member RarePosts: 1,855
    Another Albion question:  Is it possible to play a plate wearer as a DPS type and not a tank?  Is that what 2H weapons are for?  Thanks!
    MrMelGibson
  • ManWithNoTanManWithNoTan Member UncommonPosts: 55
    I was wearing plate and using a fire staff for solo dungeon runs, to get more DPS and more armor. Seemed to work fine in PVE. Not sure about PVP yet, or if that requires special builds.
    KyleranTorvalMrMelGibson
  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 15,370
    Another Albion question:  Is it possible to play a plate wearer as a DPS type and not a tank?  Is that what 2H weapons are for?  Thanks!
    It depends on how much you want to min/max. Each armour has a long list of passive stats. Plate armour has lower values for the stats that typically increase dps.

    A lot of 2 handed users wear leather because it has good values for stats that increase melee type of dps like attack speed, etc. Plus leather/medium armour has some skills that offer incredible dps bursts.

    Currently I use fire staff and cloth. I'm using cloth because it has the best stats for + magic damage and induction reduction. I've not yet tried to mix and match pieces. When I've been using melee I was in leather armour with heavy weapons.

    You have to experiment and find out what works for you.
    MrMelGibson
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