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After trying various MMOs - WoW is still the highest quality

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  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member UncommonPosts: 374

    Sorry but I think you will find that EQ2 has just as much polished PVE content as WOW, I would say it has more PVE content. That's not taking anything away dorm WOW because it's is a giant where PVE is concerned. 
    Yeah...but SOE (Daybreak) vs Blizzard?...is that really an argument you want to make?
    Is that really the argument he made?
  • FishForceFishForce Member UncommonPosts: 18
    edited October 2017
    WoW is an ok game, but it simply does not match the quality of FFXIV. 

    Visual and story wise FFXIV just stands above WoW though i played WoW for a long time FFXIV just feels a lot more polished even WoW feels polished but just not like FF... the last quest chain in suramar just feels like a grind and so do a lot of things in WoW. FFXIV never feels like a real grind. And i have not even talked about the crafting system.



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  • Teak2112Teak2112 Member UncommonPosts: 39
    Ive come to realize that the current generation of MMORPGs is quite solid.  FFXIV, ESO, and GW2 are all excellent in their own ways.  

    Sure, I would take vanilla WoW over any of them, but not post BC WoW.  Post BC WoW though is still quite solid in its own right.  

    I think many of us focus on what certain games dont do well in instead of the other way around.  Sure, I would love to take WoW's combat smoothness with EQ 1s class mechanics and add in EQ2's housing, but in an open world like UO.  Add in ESO's character building and GW2's map meta events with FFXIV's crafting.  Add just for fun, give me WAR's Tome of Knowledge.  I'm not getting that game though.  But I have plenty of solid options all the same.
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  • SirAgravaineSirAgravaine Member UncommonPosts: 383
    FishForce said:
    WoW is an ok game, but it simply does not match the quality of FFXIV. 

    Visual and story wise FFXIV just stands above WoW though i played WoW for a long time FFXIV just feels a lot more polished even WoW feels polished but just not like FF... the last quest chain in suramar just feels like a grind and so do a lot of things in WoW. FFXIV never feels like a real grind. And i have not even talked about the crafting system.



    FFXIV is just bleh, a giant ball of flashy Japanese aesthetic, that is way overdone. I don't play WoW anymore, because they simplified and condensed its systems down into an unrecognizable mess, but I can say that I definitely prefer the general look and feel of WoW to FFXIV. 
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member EpicPosts: 4,222
    FishForce said:
    WoW is an ok game, but it simply does not match the quality of FFXIV. 

    Visual and story wise FFXIV just stands above WoW though i played WoW for a long time FFXIV just feels a lot more polished even WoW feels polished but just not like FF... the last quest chain in suramar just feels like a grind and so do a lot of things in WoW. FFXIV never feels like a real grind. And i have not even talked about the crafting system.



    FFXIV is just bleh, a giant ball of flashy Japanese aesthetic, that is way overdone. I don't play WoW anymore, because they simplified and condensed its systems down into an unrecognizable mess, but I can say that I definitely prefer the general look and feel of WoW to FFXIV. 
    I'll give it to you on the fact that WoW has more thought out systems in comparison to FFXIV. However, they both ultimately end up doing the same thing, which is raising the floor while raising the ceiling (or giving the "hardcore" a false sense of progression while they move the rest passively within range of them). Some people are fine with that, but to me that's a slap in the face of content that was made and didn't even last a year to remain relevant. I mean look at EN. You can go do a WQ for like 3 mins and get a better piece of gear as a casual than EN Mythic and the raid is barely a year old. Of course content relevance will be subjective, but making "catch up" so easy that it doesn't even require though to make progress is disrespectful. Again, my own opinion. FFXIV has similar systems but with less thought involved. Top tier gear for 2 patches (usually 6 months) in only about 5-10 ilvls from casual gear with the only difference being time of acquisition and if you only play 1-2 classes (jobs) anyway, you're not going to care. Not to mention still no set bonuses. I mean the "Ultimate" fight they added drops the same ilvl weapon as O4S just with an extra materia slot and the materia system is pretty bad imo as well.
  • FishForceFishForce Member UncommonPosts: 18
    edited October 2017
    FFXIV is just bleh, a giant ball of flashy Japanese aesthetic, that is way overdone. I don't play WoW anymore, because they simplified and condensed its systems down into an unrecognizable mess, but I can say that I definitely prefer the general look and feel of WoW to FFXIV. 
    You know you can turn off the flashy parts? 
    FFXIV is a great experiance. Now WoW does look prety nice for such an old game... but have you seen the scenery in Stormblood? The Grapichs are almost the best out of any MMO out there. And im not telling lies.

    Now i know this this is posted in the WoW game forum as i know how the WoW community is compaired to FFXIV its bad


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  • DarkswormDarksworm Member UncommonPosts: 735
    FishForce said:
    WoW is an ok game, but it simply does not match the quality of FFXIV. 

    Visual and story wise FFXIV just stands above WoW though i played WoW for a long time FFXIV just feels a lot more polished even WoW feels polished but just not like FF... the last quest chain in suramar just feels like a grind and so do a lot of things in WoW. FFXIV never feels like a real grind. And i have not even talked about the crafting system.



    Which story you prefer really is your preference.  Neither is better than the other; it's personal preference that counts here...

    Graphics don't matter in the enthusiast market.  On decent systems, WoW can be run at High+ settings, and it looks really good.  So does FFXIV.  No one with decent PC specs really complains about how WoW looks.  I do think newer games are a bit over the top with effects, lighting, etc.  FFXIV and GW2 are two that spring to mind immediately...

    Where Graphics do matter is in the casual market with users who are running off the shelf, older, and less powerful systems...  I tested both games on an AMD A10-5745M Laptop (768p) with 8GB DDR 1600MHz RAM (in Dual Channel Mode) and an Intel 530 Series SATA3 SSD Drive.

    FFXIV was barely playable without putting the graphics down so far, that it actually looked worse than WoW (to me).  WoW was playable at Medium+ Settings.  In fact, I ran an LFR Raid in those settings, and it remained playable throughout...

    I also tested ESO and GW2 on this hardware.  GW2 was basically unplayable without dropping the settings WAY down (similar to FFXIV), but ESO was surprisingly decent (considering how heavy this game is) - probably due to it having a better/more efficient graphics engine (GW2 is full of all sorts of superfluous visual fluff, as well as FFXIV).  My guess is that WoW and ESO utilize multi-core processors better than FFXIV and GW2.  This causes the latter two games to bottleneck on pre-Ryzen AMD APUs, while the first two do not because AMD's APUs get a lot better when the software is properly designed for Multi-Core systems.

    FFXIV has grindy aspects to its game as well, and it's as much a gear treadmill as WoW.  I don't think the crafting system in WoW is anything worth crying over, personally, but no it isn't that good.

    On the flip side, WoW has much better content systems than FFXIV - which FFXIV is now starting to copy...  LFR->Normal->Herioc->Mythic Raiding.  Mythic+ Dungeons.  Battlegrounds and Arena.  The PvP in WoW is much better.

    The combat and gameplay "pace" in WoW is also much better.  Playing FFXIV feels more like waiting than fighting.  And while many people will say "get to end game," it's not hard to go to Twitch or YouTube and see people in end-game gear playing the game.  The GCD is still ridiculous.  The casting and combat speed is still molasses.  It feels designed for mentally retarded people who can only process information at half the rate of the average human being.
  • FaelsunFaelsun Member UncommonPosts: 498
    I cant really agree its the best anymore, a few games hold my attention just as well these days. Maybe up until Wrath that was true, but not anymore, way too much degradation of what made the game fun. I tested Legion you know nothing serious played a class I could faceroll with its maybe better than MOP but god knows what they were thinking with Survival hunters, I dont know.

    It feels like a sloppy safe zone money grab now. Dead areas all over the place, bad design from CATA makes some areas unplayable. Past a certain level crafting is useless. It feels more like a mount collecting incentive game now, gotta catch em all. Although I do REALLY like the firelands phoenix its not reason enough to keep playing.

    Low level players dont even play the game, no one is in the barrens, there is zero population in STV, no one is in Ashenvale, outside of the starting zones  you wont see anyone as soon as they reach level high enough to get a first talent (15) its dungeon time afk in the city.

    Theres plenty of bait, carrots, nice looking rare mounts etc, but no real fun in the actual game anymore unless you're a die hard raider or do competitive arena, but thats hardly the majority.
  • DragnelusDragnelus Member RarePosts: 2,422
    For me its wow and ffxiv. And from time to time tera.. Lancer tanking as lancer feels bad ass!


    My son, the day you were born, the very forests of Lordaeron whispered the name Arthas.

  • DarkswormDarksworm Member UncommonPosts: 735
    edited November 2017
    Nevermind.  No point repeating myself. :-P
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