Amity System?

Mikeha

Ok, I have been wondering about this for some time now. Has anybody ever put forth the effort to build Amity with NPCs to see what rewards are unlocked?


Some of those NPCs require a lot of Amity and I would like to know is it worth it? Do some of them give you a rare piece of gear or something?  Do they unlock secret quest that maybe give you some rare reward?

Azaron_Nightblade

Recore said:

Ok, I have been wondering about this for some time now. Has anybody ever put forth the effort to build Amity with NPCs to see what rewards are unlocked?


Some of those NPCs require a lot of Amity and I would like to know is it worth it? Do some of them give you a rare piece of gear or something?  Do they unlock secret quest that maybe give you some rare reward?

Some unlock quests. A few of them dailies (like the life skill dailies in Olvia). But no, none of them unlock access to rare gear. For the most part amity is for getting knowledge, which in turn increases your max energy.

Edit: Or at least not that I've ever heard of.

Mikeha

Azaron_Nightblade said:

Recore said:

Ok, I have been wondering about this for some time now. Has anybody ever put forth the effort to build Amity with NPCs to see what rewards are unlocked?


Some of those NPCs require a lot of Amity and I would like to know is it worth it? Do some of them give you a rare piece of gear or something?  Do they unlock secret quest that maybe give you some rare reward?

Some unlock quests. A few of them dailies (like the life skill dailies in Olvia). But no, none of them unlock access to rare gear. For the most part amity is for getting knowledge, which in turn increases your max energy.

Edit: Or at least not that I've ever heard of.

I was told if you build Amity with Merchant NPCs they will sell you better items. Have you heard that? 

laxie

From what I understand, Amity rewards mainly consist of the following:

• Knowledge - to further gain Amity with others.
• Shop Unlocks - lets you buy items from the NPC.
• Perks - e.g. better bargain chances with trader NPC.

Provided the end-game progression centers around upgrading a select piece of gear over and over again, the Amity items will likely be most viable mid-game. They represent very cost effective alternatives for mid-game players, letting you get hands on gear that would otherwise cost lots of coin (for a fraction of the cost).

If you are planning on specialising on non-combat gameplay, then getting Amity with the relevant NPCs sounds like a decent proposition. Better bargain attempts when trading will reflect on your overall profits in the long term. Similarly, you may unlock outfits that improve Amity gains, carry limits or harvesting.

I'd say the design works well, where Amity is most rewarding to those who are interested in it in the first place. If you are someone who loves to explore all of the game's systems, then chances are you will benefit from the unlocks in some way. If you are someone who loves the gear grind and the very end-game content, you probably won't benefit all that much from it.

kitarad

Yuria weapon
http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/22915-getting-and-upgrading-your-weapon-yuria-etc/

Sovrath

Recore said:

Azaron_Nightblade said:

Recore said:

Ok, I have been wondering about this for some time now. Has anybody ever put forth the effort to build Amity with NPCs to see what rewards are unlocked?


Some of those NPCs require a lot of Amity and I would like to know is it worth it? Do some of them give you a rare piece of gear or something?  Do they unlock secret quest that maybe give you some rare reward?

Some unlock quests. A few of them dailies (like the life skill dailies in Olvia). But no, none of them unlock access to rare gear. For the most part amity is for getting knowledge, which in turn increases your max energy.

Edit: Or at least not that I've ever heard of.

I was told if you build Amity with Merchant NPCs they will sell you better items. Have you heard that? 

I think the "better items" are the items you see in the store but can't buy unless you have "x amity".

That's the only time I ever used the system; to be able to buy those "better items".

Mikeha

I don't know how well you all can see this and you may be able to click on it to enlarge it but in the lower left this NPC has 3 quest I can get at different levels of Amity. The highest one is 200 Amity.  I have seen some with quest requiring much more. 

Sovrath

Recore said:

I don't know how well you all can see this and you may be able to click on it to enlarge it but in the lower left this NPC has 3 quest I can get at different levels of Amity. The highest one is 200 Amity.  I have seen some with quest requiring much more. 

uh yes! I don't know what they give but some npc's do have quests you unlock through amity, some have items they can rent you and some can give you knowledge.

Mikeha

Sovrath said:

Recore said:

I don't know how well you all can see this and you may be able to click on it to enlarge it but in the lower left this NPC has 3 quest I can get at different levels of Amity. The highest one is 200 Amity.  I have seen some with quest requiring much more. 

uh yes! I don't know what they give but some npc's do have quests you unlock through amity, some have items they can rent you and some can give you knowledge.

I get the Knowledge Amity and Shop Amity but these Quest Amity have me wondering just what do they give. 

stayontarget

I you do decide to play the amity mini game, try to win at least 3 times in a row.  Better returns that way.

Azaron_Nightblade

Sovrath said:

Recore said:

I don't know how well you all can see this and you may be able to click on it to enlarge it but in the lower left this NPC has 3 quest I can get at different levels of Amity. The highest one is 200 Amity.  I have seen some with quest requiring much more. 

uh yes! I don't know what they give but some npc's do have quests you unlock through amity, some have items they can rent you and some can give you knowledge.

That particular one unlocks several daily quests in Florin. One to collect deer blood, one to kill the annoying humming birds, and another one to collect fireflake flowers if I'm not mistaken.

I used to do them each day at launch to build up my CP. xD

ste2000

Recore said:

Ok, I have been wondering about this for some time now. Has anybody ever put forth the effort to build Amity with NPCs to see what rewards are unlocked?


Some of those NPCs require a lot of Amity and I would like to know is it worth it? Do some of them give you a rare piece of gear or something?  Do they unlock secret quest that maybe give you some rare reward?

You only use Amity for the NPCs that have something to offer, which is actually a small percentage.
Generally you use it to acquire Kmowledge (sometimes is the only way) or receive rare quest (which IMO are pointless).
I mostly use my Amity to buy Items from vendors though.

Azaron_Nightblade

ste2000 said:

Recore said:

Ok, I have been wondering about this for some time now. Has anybody ever put forth the effort to build Amity with NPCs to see what rewards are unlocked?


Some of those NPCs require a lot of Amity and I would like to know is it worth it? Do some of them give you a rare piece of gear or something?  Do they unlock secret quest that maybe give you some rare reward?

You only use Amity for the NPCs that have something to offer, which is actually a small percentage.
Generally you use it to acquire Kmowledge (sometimes is the only way) or receive rare quest (which IMO are pointless).
I mostly use my Amity to buy Items from vendors though.

It was a popular way to get Grunil when it first came out and it was hard as hell to buy off the MP.
You can also get Rocaba armor through amity in Valencia if I'm not mistaken. Which can be nice, since the stupid helmet of that set is only dropped by centaurs. And people barely ever kill those stupid things.

free2play

Shops are usually amity locked but requirements are shown and any knowledge or quests are shown on the Amity wheel. There really  is no hidden content in Amity. It's all shown if you know where to look.

I suppose the real question is, has anyone gone around and checked every NPC to see if there is Amity unlock on them because there a lot of NPCs and every one of them has the possibility of an Amity content unlock. Places like Valencia would be the obvious example. Few people explore Valencia beyond spamming R on question marks for Knowledge. We have no idea what is being over looked there and the towns around it.

ste2000

Azaron_Nightblade said:

ste2000 said:

It was a popular way to get Grunil when it first came out and it was hard as hell to buy off the MP.
You can also get Rocaba armor through amity in Valencia if I'm not mistaken. Which can be nice, since the stupid helmet of that set is only dropped by centaurs. And people barely ever kill those stupid things.

Buying Grunil is probably the worst kind of investment for Amity.
You can actually make Millions each day with Amity, but that's a secret

Azaron_Nightblade

ste2000 said:

Azaron_Nightblade said:

ste2000 said:

It was a popular way to get Grunil when it first came out and it was hard as hell to buy off the MP.
You can also get Rocaba armor through amity in Valencia if I'm not mistaken. Which can be nice, since the stupid helmet of that set is only dropped by centaurs. And people barely ever kill those stupid things.

Buying Grunil is probably the worst kind of investment for Amity.
You can actually make Millions each day with Amity, but that's a secret

Oh, I never did it.
I'm mainly a life skiller. I prefer to use my energy for other things.

Plus I absolutely detest the amity mini game. So have at it.

free2play

Azaron_Nightblade said:

ste2000 said:

Azaron_Nightblade said:

ste2000 said:

It was a popular way to get Grunil when it first came out and it was hard as hell to buy off the MP.
You can also get Rocaba armor through amity in Valencia if I'm not mistaken. Which can be nice, since the stupid helmet of that set is only dropped by centaurs. And people barely ever kill those stupid things.

Buying Grunil is probably the worst kind of investment for Amity.
You can actually make Millions each day with Amity, but that's a secret

Oh, I never did it.
I'm mainly a life skiller. I prefer to use my energy for other things.

Plus I absolutely detest the amity mini game. So have at it.

Same. It seems like more rigged, RnG to me. 3 cycles of amity, the third criteria, "Fail to strike up a conversation 5 times in a row" and all the NPCs are 100%. It happens far more than it should.