More players on STEAM right now playing Black Desert than Final Fantasy XIV or Elder Scrolls Online.
It's doing great.
What has a lot to do with this is the steam sale:
Also many other MMOs on Steam can be played without steam via their own launchers - BDO cannot - if you bought BDO from steam - you MUST launch it via steam.
You always have to find something negative to say about BDO. Why don't you give it a rest?
Oh shit.....there is a $ 2 MASSIVE discount, surely that's why the game is so popular. What about those other MMOs which are free to play on Steam. According to your theory Archeage should do even better than BDO (which is #26 on the 100 List). Now, let's check where Archeage is on that list...ops, it is not even in the first 100 List, how come?
100% And your point is? Most people goes AFK when they go to work or when they sleep, but they do play the game every day for many hours as well, so it would have 23K daily players even if AFK wasn't available.
I really don't get what are you trying to prove. For someone who says he plays the game, you sure seems to have an awful amount of issues with BDO. Every time there is a BDO discussion, your nitpicking goes into overdrive.
I stopped playing BDO because I have huge PvE issues with it. Yet I feel the need to defend this game because in my view it is attacked unfairly left and right, and for the wrong reasons. I feel people try to create drama over nothing.
BDO is not a masterpiece, but in my opinion it is genuinely one of the best MMOs of the last 10 years (and I played everything since UO), if not the best. It's design its refreshing, except for its retarded end game PvE, and its CS is nowhere near as bad as people think it is.
I wanted to try this game I really do. I even gave them my money but the damn game just wont go pass the launcher! LOL and support for this game is like a 1/10. but figures. It's b2P and a at cheap price. Must be trying to pull in as many as much as possible before it hits bottom. Happy for those who it works for flawlessly though. It seems it could be a fun game.
Try turning off your virus and firewall stuff, then see if it works, if it does then you need to white list it.
When the game was down for maintenance - all servers off - it showed 6006 players as "playing"
How is that possible? Yep AFK players
Game Launchers.
It's a well-known thing within MMO's and their launchers that steam counts them as online if you are in the launcher, it's the case in many of them as people could tell. When FF XIV was down they also showed 4-6k players online.
When the game was down for maintenance - all servers off - it showed 6006 players as "playing"
How is that possible? Yep AFK players
Game Launchers.
It's a well-known thing within MMO's and their launchers that steam counts them as online if you are in the launcher, it's the case in many of them as people could tell. When FF XIV was down they also showed 4-6k players online.
Any proof to your claim? I'd like clarification before I take you on your word. No offense.
It's a good game. I liked the node system and life skills. I disliked the theme and the ridiculous grinding though. I've tried three times to get into it and after a few days I just stop playing.
When the game was down for maintenance - all servers off - it showed 6006 players as "playing"
How is that possible? Yep AFK players
Game Launchers.
It's a well-known thing within MMO's and their launchers that steam counts them as online if you are in the launcher, it's the case in many of them as people could tell. When FF XIV was down they also showed 4-6k players online.
Any proof to your claim? I'd like clarification before I take you on your word. No offense.
It's not surprising the game is doing well on Steam. It's different than most Steam games and incredibly cheap. Also, the insidious monetization model is not obvious. There are many here that have played the game for a long time and still don't realize how bad it is.
It's not surprising the game is doing well on Steam. It's different than most Steam games and incredibly cheap. Also, the insidious monetization model is not obvious. There are many here that have played the game for a long time and still don't realize how bad it is.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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When the game was down for maintenance - all servers off - it showed 6006 players as "playing"
How is that possible? Yep AFK players
Game Launchers.
It's a well-known thing within MMO's and their launchers that steam counts them as online if you are in the launcher, it's the case in many of them as people could tell. When FF XIV was down they also showed 4-6k players online.
Any proof to your claim? I'd like clarification before I take you on your word. No offense.
I have heard this from many people who play the game. They just AFK. A few people I know are AFK in this game and playing another. Its easy to see how the numbers can be deceiving. While I think the game is average at best, I do hope those who play it are enjoying it.
The reality is this - there are 24K players logged into BDO - there are probably only about 15K-18K actually "playing"
I don't believe your estimates are correct, just wild speculation. When I was playing BDO I left my PC on 24/7 (I know it's bad), but I also played at least few hours a day every day. The vast majority of AFK people (99%) who play BDO are exactly like me. Even if AFK was not available, I and the other players would still have played those few hours a day anyway, so the daily number of player would still have been exactly the same. Am I correct?
There are 24K players AFK, but those 24K players also actively play the game for at least few hours a day, that's the reality. So Steam numbers are correct in my opinion.
More players on STEAM right now playing Black Desert than Final Fantasy XIV or Elder Scrolls Online.
It's doing great.
What has a lot to do with this is the steam sale:
Also many other MMOs on Steam can be played without steam via their own launchers - BDO cannot - if you bought BDO from steam - you MUST launch it via steam.
You always have to find something negative to say about BDO. Why don't you give it a rest?
Oh shit.....there is a $ 2 MASSIVE discount, surely that's why the game is so popular. What about those other MMOs which are free to play on Steam. According to your theory Archeage should do even better than BDO (which is #26 on the 100 List). Now, let's check where Archeage is on that list...ops, it is not even in the first 100 List, how come?
How many of those "playing" are actually AFK?
Also why are you bringing other games into this - this is relevant how?
You can play ESO, AA and other MMORPGs without logging in through steam even if you obtained the game via steam.
BDO forces steam players to launch it via steam, it also just launched on steam - and you want to comapare this to 2-3 year old games that players can play without steam?
Really?
You brought other games into it when you mentioned the sale and how you could play other games. You set the metric, don't get offended when it gets thrown back at you.
You also claimed the sale was the the only reason it was doing well. That implies the reason it is doing so well is that it is cheaper now, which one could logically conclude that if your claim is correct (which it isn't) that a free to play game, any of them, would be doing better. His statement is a direct refute of your (as usual) wild conjecture about the sale is the reason BDO is doing so well.
That is why other games are relevant, YOU brought them into it.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
Good for them. I believe this is also because of this .. streamer who I saw in the last several days ( at least ) , that he's playing BDO and which have 10k+ viewers on twitch everytime.
Seeing how people are talking about BDO , it's kinda making me to try the game out , as I enjoy mob grinding ( blame it to the .. Lineage 2 ) .
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy? Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
WorldOfWarcraft is actually more pay2win than BlackdesertOnline.
Why? WoW costs ~40euro for the game and 10euro~ a month to be played. On top of this you can buy WoWmarks for ~20euro which u can trade ingame to a value like ~60kgold.
For the average(maybe even on top) players 60k~ gold take like 1day to be grinded.
Additionally to that, you can buy mounts and pets for 10-20euro.
In Blackdesert you pay 10euro for the game. No monthly fee.
You can buy costumes for ~20euro and sell them for ~20mil silver.
29 mil silver takes the average(maybe even top) player like 2-3 hours to grind.
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Under the line WoW is pay2play and pay2win mutch MORE than BDO.
I didnt mistake anywhere, did i? prove me wrong BDO haters, who gives a fck.
Good for them. I believe this is also because of this .. streamer who I saw in the last several days ( at least ) , that he's playing BDO and which have 10k+ viewers on twitch everytime.
Seeing how people are talking about BDO , it's kinda making me to try the game out , as I enjoy mob grinding ( blame it to the .. Lineage 2 ) .
Now there's a figure I have a hard time believing, that 10K people would watch someone play a MMO, any MMO not just BDO.
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Good for them. I believe this is also because of this .. streamer who I saw in the last several days ( at least ) , that he's playing BDO and which have 10k+ viewers on twitch everytime.
Seeing how people are talking about BDO , it's kinda making me to try the game out , as I enjoy mob grinding ( blame it to the .. Lineage 2 ) .
Honestly if you like mob grinding BDO is your game. It actually reminds me of Diablo, it has a strong Hack'n Slash feel to it, it's one of those few MMOs where grinding mobs it's actually fun.
7 days to Die: Peak concurrent players yesterday: 21,860 players in the last 2 weeks: 292,424
User reviews:
RECENT:
Very Positive (1,038 reviews)
OVERALL:
Very Positive (35,432 reviews)
An indie game in early access with nearly zero advertising and not remotely as popular as Rust or Ark
7 days to die born on steam, that's all so...at release bdo devs said +100k concurrent players, and it was when the game wasn't popular
I keep having to explain this to peopole and dont understand why its not implictity understood.
7 days to die is an early access, indie game with nearly zero advertising. BDO is a hugely marketed mega game.
given that difference the margin of error is HUGE...a small time early access titles that is an indie game made by a bunch of guys who could not get funding from anyone which has nearly zero adverftising should not be able to come remotely close to BDO in numbers.
having said that, the point of my post was he posted some numbers that looked intresting so what I did was to go and look out of curiousity, those numbers he posted appear to not be that impressive given the small title I just provided
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
7 days to Die: Peak concurrent players yesterday: 21,860 players in the last 2 weeks: 292,424
User reviews:
RECENT:
Very Positive (1,038 reviews)
OVERALL:
Very Positive (35,432 reviews)
An indie game in early access with nearly zero advertising and not remotely as popular as Rust or Ark
7 days to die born on steam, that's all so...at release bdo devs said +100k concurrent players, and it was when the game wasn't popular
I keep having to explain this to peopole and dont understand why its not implictity understood.
7 days to die is an early access, indie game with nearly zero advertising. BDO is a hugely marketed mega game.
given that difference the margin of error is HUGE...a small time early access titles that is an indie game made by a bunch of guys who could not get funding from anyone which has nearly zero adverftising should not be able to come remotely close to BDO in numbers.
having said that, the point of my post was he posted some numbers that looked intresting so what I did was to go and look out of curiousity, those numbers he posted appear to not be that impressive given the small title I just provided
And BDO has been released + 1year ago and who wanted to buy it, already done so, steam numbers is just a plus to a packed already game while 7 days to die is.. "that's all" i'm just showing you this.
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Why don't you give it a rest?
Oh shit.....there is a $ 2 MASSIVE discount, surely that's why the game is so popular.
What about those other MMOs which are free to play on Steam.
According to your theory Archeage should do even better than BDO (which is #26 on the 100 List).
Now, let's check where Archeage is on that list...ops, it is not even in the first 100 List, how come?
And your point is?
Most people goes AFK when they go to work or when they sleep, but they do play the game every day for many hours as well, so it would have 23K daily players even if AFK wasn't available.
I really don't get what are you trying to prove.
For someone who says he plays the game, you sure seems to have an awful amount of issues with BDO.
Every time there is a BDO discussion, your nitpicking goes into overdrive.
I stopped playing BDO because I have huge PvE issues with it.
Yet I feel the need to defend this game because in my view it is attacked unfairly left and right, and for the wrong reasons.
I feel people try to create drama over nothing.
BDO is not a masterpiece, but in my opinion it is genuinely one of the best MMOs of the last 10 years (and I played everything since UO), if not the best.
It's design its refreshing, except for its retarded end game PvE, and its CS is nowhere near as bad as people think it is.
24,896
all-time peak
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25,916
all-time peak
all afk i guess
It's a well-known thing within MMO's and their launchers that steam counts them as online if you are in the launcher, it's the case in many of them as people could tell. When FF XIV was down they also showed 4-6k players online.
I disliked the theme and the ridiculous grinding though.
I've tried three times to get into it and after a few days I just stop playing.
It's a good game though.
..Cake..
http://steamcharts.com/app/39210
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When I was playing BDO I left my PC on 24/7 (I know it's bad), but I also played at least few hours a day every day.
The vast majority of AFK people (99%) who play BDO are exactly like me.
Even if AFK was not available, I and the other players would still have played those few hours a day anyway, so the daily number of player would still have been exactly the same.
Am I correct?
There are 24K players AFK, but those 24K players also actively play the game for at least few hours a day, that's the reality.
So Steam numbers are correct in my opinion.
User reviews:
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
You also claimed the sale was the the only reason it was doing well. That implies the reason it is doing so well is that it is cheaper now, which one could logically conclude that if your claim is correct (which it isn't) that a free to play game, any of them, would be doing better. His statement is a direct refute of your (as usual) wild conjecture about the sale is the reason BDO is doing so well.
That is why other games are relevant, YOU brought them into it.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
7 days to Die:
Peak concurrent players yesterday: 21,860
players in the last 2 weeks: 292,424
An indie game in early access with nearly zero advertising and not remotely as popular as Rust or Ark
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
Seeing how people are talking about BDO , it's kinda making me to try the game out , as I enjoy mob grinding ( blame it to the .. Lineage 2
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
WorldOfWarcraft is actually more pay2win than BlackdesertOnline.
Why? WoW costs ~40euro for the game and 10euro~ a month to be played. On top of this you can buy WoWmarks for ~20euro which u can trade ingame to a value like ~60kgold.
For the average(maybe even on top) players 60k~ gold take like 1day to be grinded.
Additionally to that, you can buy mounts and pets for 10-20euro.
In Blackdesert you pay 10euro for the game. No monthly fee.
You can buy costumes for ~20euro and sell them for ~20mil silver.
29 mil silver takes the average(maybe even top) player like 2-3 hours to grind.
---------------
Under the line WoW is pay2play and pay2win mutch MORE than BDO.
I didnt mistake anywhere, did i? prove me wrong BDO haters, who gives a fck.
Wait, maybe they are all AFK?
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
It actually reminds me of Diablo, it has a strong Hack'n Slash feel to it, it's one of those few MMOs where grinding mobs it's actually fun.
7 days to die is an early access, indie game with nearly zero advertising. BDO is a hugely marketed mega game.
given that difference the margin of error is HUGE...a small time early access titles that is an indie game made by a bunch of guys who could not get funding from anyone which has nearly zero adverftising should not be able to come remotely close to BDO in numbers.
having said that, the point of my post was he posted some numbers that looked intresting so what I did was to go and look out of curiousity, those numbers he posted appear to not be that impressive given the small title I just provided
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me