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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 11,213
    edited April 2017
    Iselin said:
    Wizardry said:
    idk how bad is bad or "what you've heard" but i would give it a 5/10.
    6/10 to me is  barely playable but i will play it,5/10 means it is ok but i won't play it.
    I feel people are way too easy and generous when handing out scores,i guess with limited knowledge i can understand it.It is like asking a soccer player to rate a baseball game.

    I look to the main core design aspects,then i decide are any of them good?

    graphics?They do nothing for me
    Story..again does nothing for me,cs's are not even done very well,poorly actually.
    combat?Hell no,sub par.
    mapping/layout...boring,does nothing for me.
    peripherals?I saw some,not enough to make up for he rest of the game.

    How can you even begin to rate something you haven't played? Do you also rate books you haven't read and movies you haven't watched?

    You and many others here just want to get in on the action of discussing a game that's being discussed everywhere without having played a minute of it for fear of being left out of discussing a hot topic. I get that.

    But where do you get off giving it a numerical score?

    You never fail to amuse.


    I often read 3-5 pages chosen randomly, in a book I'm considering getting.  If the author is doing a poor job of writing, I don't buy the book!.   Doesn't require reading the whole thing to make the determination.  

    So you feel qualified to assign the book a number from 1-10 after those 3-5 pages and discuss your rating with those who did read the book and base their rating on first-hand knowledge of the whole thing? Good to know. 
    Post edited by Iselin on
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  • DataDayDataDay Member UncommonPosts: 1,518
    ME:A IS as bad as you have heard. Only the most ardent fanboys seem to defend the game at this point. Worst part is, EA will not issue refunds.
  • BakgrindBakgrind Member UncommonPosts: 337
    Muke said:

    Trand said:

    This game is Dragon Age: Inquisition in space, But I loved that game and I am really enjoying Andromeda.



    My biggest complaint is the animations, yes you get used to them, but it should not have launched like this.



    Otherwise great game.



    "Great game, apart from the many bugs and very poor animations."
    What platform are you playing on? Not that I doubt you  since multi platform games would have different bugs. But I  have to ask because in my pc play through I played 81 hrs with a 91% completion I only had one bug and that was  helmet  type bug where I could not unequip it. A reload to a previous save fixed it for me.
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,180
    edited April 2017
    DataDay said:
    ME:A IS as bad as you have heard. Only the most ardent fanboys seem to defend the game at this point. 
    Who would think only fans like something.... hmmm that's a real head scratcher there. 
    Post edited by Distopia on

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  • DataDayDataDay Member UncommonPosts: 1,518
    Distopia said:
    DataDay said:
    ME:A IS as bad as you have heard. Only the most ardent fanboys seem to defend the game at this point. 
    Who wold think only fans like something.... hmmm that's a real head scratcher there. 
    You got "only fans" from "ardent fanboys seem"? Whatever floats your boat. Using my significant other as an example,  half of their wardrobe is made up of bioware licensed clothes... and by that I mean Mass Effect themed. If its Mass Effect, they want it.

    When it comes to ME:A, they couldn't even get a refund they hate the game so bad. So no, its not "only fans", but there are those whose bias will not allow them to see the flaming pile of garbage ME:A is. The writing, the bugs, the animation, the over all design... its so piss poor its not even funny. In fact they let one of Bioware's worst performing studios take on the task of developing it, which on top of that those poor performers even outsourced the work.

    The product is objectively BAD. The writing is objectively bad. The history of the development of this product is bad. Marketing at EA promoted a different game than what people bought. They only put $40 million into developing this game, and it shows. Typical EA behavior.

    So yeah, its going to require some special kind of pathology to think ME:A is "not bad".
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,180
    edited April 2017
    DataDay said:
    Distopia said:
    DataDay said:
    ME:A IS as bad as you have heard. Only the most ardent fanboys seem to defend the game at this point. 
    Who wold think only fans like something.... hmmm that's a real head scratcher there. 
    You got "only fans" from "ardent fanboys seem"? Whatever floats your boat. Using my significant other as an example,  half of their wardrobe is made up of bioware licensed clothes... and by that I mean Mass Effect themed. If its Mass Effect, they want it.

    When it comes to ME:A, they couldn't even get a refund they hate the game so bad. So no, its not "only fans", but there are those whose bias will not allow them to see the flaming pile of garbage ME:A is. The writing, the bugs, the animation, the over all design... its so piss poor its not even funny. In fact they let one of Bioware's worst performing studios take on the task of developing it, which on top of that those poor performers even outsourced the work.

    The product is objectively BAD. The writing is objectively bad. The history of the development of this product is bad. Marketing at EA promoted a different game than what people bought. They only put $40 million into developing this game, and it shows. Typical EA behavior.

    So yeah, its going to require some special kind of pathology to think ME:A is "not bad".
    If that's how you feel about it that's how you feel, I'm not here to change your mind. 

    I guess I like an "objectively" bad game... /shrugs....

    BTW I was referring to ME:A fans, not ME fans...
    Post edited by Distopia on

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  • ArglebargleArglebargle Member RarePosts: 2,257
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Wizardry said:
    idk how bad is bad or "what you've heard" but i would give it a 5/10.
    6/10 to me is  barely playable but i will play it,5/10 means it is ok but i won't play it.
    I feel people are way too easy and generous when handing out scores,i guess with limited knowledge i can understand it.It is like asking a soccer player to rate a baseball game.

    I look to the main core design aspects,then i decide are any of them good?

    graphics?They do nothing for me
    Story..again does nothing for me,cs's are not even done very well,poorly actually.
    combat?Hell no,sub par.
    mapping/layout...boring,does nothing for me.
    peripherals?I saw some,not enough to make up for he rest of the game.

    How can you even begin to rate something you haven't played? Do you also rate books you haven't read and movies you haven't watched?

    You and many others here just want to get in on the action of discussing a game that's being discussed everywhere without having played a minute of it for fear of being left out of discussing a hot topic. I get that.

    But where do you get off giving it a numerical score?

    You never fail to amuse.


    I often read 3-5 pages chosen randomly, in a book I'm considering getting.  If the author is doing a poor job of writing, I don't buy the book!.   Doesn't require reading the whole thing to make the determination.  

    So you feel qualified to assign the book a number from 1-10 after those 3-5 pages and discuss your rating with those who did read the book and base their rating on first-hand knowledge of the whole thing? Good to know. 


    I absolutely feel qualified to NOT BUY the product if the sample is sadly deficit.


    Now if friends whose tastes I trust tell me that it's worthwhile, I might consider retrying it.  But there's a ton of books, games, movies, etc; and no reason to waste your time and money on lackluster ones.  Even the people who are liking ME:A reveal aspects of the game that pretty much assure me that I'm not going to like it.


    People's tastes differ.   And you can certainly like something that is really not done well.  But it is better if you realize it.



    If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

  • PhryPhry Member EpicPosts: 9,534
    Forgrimm said:
    Forgrimm said:
    You have a very different idea of what a white person is than the rest of the world.


    This doesn't look white to you?...


    Like I already said in my first post on the topic but moonbats seem intent on ignoring so they can continue to fanboy out, I can see some of the options being close enough to be considered Mediterranean white from places like Spain, Italy or Greece. That is definitely not light enough to be a typical Germanic, Scandinavian, or Irish person.

    There is a lot of grey and brown in the that skin tone.



    I'll say it again for the "special" people who are struggling with it.

    "However I do see the argument, the lightest you can get looks Puerto Rican or Mediterranean. If you want to make someone who looks Irish, Swedish, German, etc. you're out of luck because the skin tones can't go that light. " - me



    Moonbats, fanboys, and "special" people...Quite the mature response there. Considering the fact that I've never played any Mass Effect game, I don't think "fanboy" is going to stick. Just pointing out the fact that the blond-haired, blue-eyed, light-skinned guy in the screenshot looks quite Germanic. You seem upset that you can't use a Casper the Ghost skin-tone.
    So much in denial, the fact that you can't choose to be white in the game, its controversial sure, and when tied in with the stories of the writer guy being an anti white racist also, does kind of imply that there was some kind of anti white agenda, though whether it was their own, or they were just pandering to a perceived trend, who knows. O.o
  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 2,292
    Angry Joe's review is pretty reasonable; unfortunately its not as fun as his usual reviews:


    ....
  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member RarePosts: 3,777
    He had issues with the costumes delivery.

  • ForgrimmForgrimm Member EpicPosts: 2,858
    Phry said:
    So much in denial, the fact that you can't choose to be white in the game.
    You mean the "fact" that's been proven to be a non-fact already many times? See Fritz below. 


  • hatefulpeacehatefulpeace Member UncommonPosts: 621
    Must be pretty bad, they seem to be ramping up the commercials. 
  • AzothAzoth Member UncommonPosts: 835
    Phry said:
    Forgrimm said:
    Forgrimm said:
    You have a very different idea of what a white person is than the rest of the world.


    This doesn't look white to you?...


    Like I already said in my first post on the topic but moonbats seem intent on ignoring so they can continue to fanboy out, I can see some of the options being close enough to be considered Mediterranean white from places like Spain, Italy or Greece. That is definitely not light enough to be a typical Germanic, Scandinavian, or Irish person.

    There is a lot of grey and brown in the that skin tone.



    I'll say it again for the "special" people who are struggling with it.

    "However I do see the argument, the lightest you can get looks Puerto Rican or Mediterranean. If you want to make someone who looks Irish, Swedish, German, etc. you're out of luck because the skin tones can't go that light. " - me



    Moonbats, fanboys, and "special" people...Quite the mature response there. Considering the fact that I've never played any Mass Effect game, I don't think "fanboy" is going to stick. Just pointing out the fact that the blond-haired, blue-eyed, light-skinned guy in the screenshot looks quite Germanic. You seem upset that you can't use a Casper the Ghost skin-tone.
    So much in denial, the fact that you can't choose to be white in the game, its controversial sure, and when tied in with the stories of the writer guy being an anti white racist also, does kind of imply that there was some kind of anti white agenda, though whether it was their own, or they were just pandering to a perceived trend, who knows. O.o
    If there was an anti white agenda wouldn't they have made the default character something other than your typical sun depraved white man ?
  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 2,292
    Bloodaxes said:
    He had issues with the costumes delivery.
    Yeah, but he made some interesting comments nonetheless. I'm finishing up Nioh now and trying to decide between this or Horizon ZD for my next game, they both look pretty good in their own way. Not a big fan of dinosaurs or space, but I loved ME:2 and really enjoyed DAI; the role of pathfinder also seems interesting to me.
    ....
  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member RarePosts: 3,777
    YashaX said:
    Bloodaxes said:
    He had issues with the costumes delivery.
    Yeah, but he made some interesting comments nonetheless. I'm finishing up Nioh now and trying to decide between this or Horizon ZD for my next game, they both look pretty good in their own way. Not a big fan of dinosaurs or space, but I loved ME:2 and really enjoyed DAI; the role of pathfinder also seems interesting to me.
    If you like games like far cry, you should enjoy horizon.

    Alternatively wait a bit until they release some patches to improve ME:A, and probably price drop.

  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 11,213
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Wizardry said:
    idk how bad is bad or "what you've heard" but i would give it a 5/10.
    6/10 to me is  barely playable but i will play it,5/10 means it is ok but i won't play it.
    I feel people are way too easy and generous when handing out scores,i guess with limited knowledge i can understand it.It is like asking a soccer player to rate a baseball game.

    I look to the main core design aspects,then i decide are any of them good?

    graphics?They do nothing for me
    Story..again does nothing for me,cs's are not even done very well,poorly actually.
    combat?Hell no,sub par.
    mapping/layout...boring,does nothing for me.
    peripherals?I saw some,not enough to make up for he rest of the game.

    How can you even begin to rate something you haven't played? Do you also rate books you haven't read and movies you haven't watched?

    You and many others here just want to get in on the action of discussing a game that's being discussed everywhere without having played a minute of it for fear of being left out of discussing a hot topic. I get that.

    But where do you get off giving it a numerical score?

    You never fail to amuse.


    I often read 3-5 pages chosen randomly, in a book I'm considering getting.  If the author is doing a poor job of writing, I don't buy the book!.   Doesn't require reading the whole thing to make the determination.  

    So you feel qualified to assign the book a number from 1-10 after those 3-5 pages and discuss your rating with those who did read the book and base their rating on first-hand knowledge of the whole thing? Good to know. 


    I absolutely feel qualified to NOT BUY the product if the sample is sadly deficit.


    Now if friends whose tastes I trust tell me that it's worthwhile, I might consider retrying it.  But there's a ton of books, games, movies, etc; and no reason to waste your time and money on lackluster ones.  Even the people who are liking ME:A reveal aspects of the game that pretty much assure me that I'm not going to like it.


    People's tastes differ.   And you can certainly like something that is really not done well.  But it is better if you realize it.



    But I'm talking about Wizardry giving it a 5/10 without ever playing it.

    Got anything to say about rating something that you just sampled on a 1-10 scale and trying to pass that rating off as being valid?

    That's what my post that you responded to was about. Not some generic tangent about whether he liked what he has seen enough to buy it.

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,180
    edited April 2017
    Phry said:

    So much in denial, the fact that you can't choose to be white in the game, its controversial sure, and when tied in with the stories of the writer guy being an anti white racist also, does kind of imply that there was some kind of anti white agenda, though whether it was their own, or they were just pandering to a perceived trend, who knows. O.o
    And there it is, the real reason folks are pushing this narrative, to prove some anti-white conspiracy.... 


    Denial lmao.....

    For the record there's a lot more to races than skin tones, like bone structure, the way the eyes set, the shape of the nose. The picture of the base Forgrimm posted is very much a white guy, from the way the blond hair sets against his complexion, to his eye shape as well as color both of which his hair and eyes would look out of place on a darker olive skinned individual, to his overall bone structure. 
    Post edited by Distopia on

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  • laseritlaserit Member EpicPosts: 5,426
    Distopia said:
    Phry said:

    So much in denial, the fact that you can't choose to be white in the game, its controversial sure, and when tied in with the stories of the writer guy being an anti white racist also, does kind of imply that there was some kind of anti white agenda, though whether it was their own, or they were just pandering to a perceived trend, who knows. O.o
    And there it is, the real reason folks are pushing this narrative, to prove some anti-white conspiracy.... 


    Denial lmao.....
    Pretty funny isn't it ;)

    It leaves one to wonder... if in Mass Effect Andromeda's timeline, whether we would be all one color.

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 11,213
    Distopia said:
    And there it is, the real reason folks are pushing this narrative, to prove some anti-white conspiracy.... 

    And hence the politically-motivated metabombing 
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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,180
    laserit said:
    Distopia said:
    Phry said:

    So much in denial, the fact that you can't choose to be white in the game, its controversial sure, and when tied in with the stories of the writer guy being an anti white racist also, does kind of imply that there was some kind of anti white agenda, though whether it was their own, or they were just pandering to a perceived trend, who knows. O.o
    And there it is, the real reason folks are pushing this narrative, to prove some anti-white conspiracy.... 


    Denial lmao.....
    Pretty funny isn't it ;)

    It leaves one to wonder... if in Mass Effect Andromeda's timeline, whether we would be all one color.
    It certainly is silly, it's even sillier EA/Bioware took the time to address it, but that's video game companies for you in 2017. 

    and many believe rightly or wrongly we're well on our way to that already:). 

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 11,213
    laserit said:
    Distopia said:
    Phry said:

    So much in denial, the fact that you can't choose to be white in the game, its controversial sure, and when tied in with the stories of the writer guy being an anti white racist also, does kind of imply that there was some kind of anti white agenda, though whether it was their own, or they were just pandering to a perceived trend, who knows. O.o
    And there it is, the real reason folks are pushing this narrative, to prove some anti-white conspiracy.... 


    Denial lmao.....
    Pretty funny isn't it ;)

    It leaves one to wonder... if in Mass Effect Andromeda's timeline, whether we would be all one color.
    We're trying our best in my family to make it so. My gorgeous granddaughter is 1/2 Chinesse, 1/4 hispanic, 1/8 Icelandic and 1/8 French :)
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  • DataDayDataDay Member UncommonPosts: 1,518
    First, from Tech Raptor.
    "Robertson stated that an artist “suggested that there are “sensitivities” within the company about representing women in a certain way.” It is important to note that while there is a PC" (Politically Correct, aka activism) "corporate culture involved in BioWare, it is not one that has been mandated by the staff. Robertson clarified with TechRaptor, noting that meetings between EA and BioWare have taken place regarding their games being more inclusive and diverse. "

    Second, pale skin was noticeably absent from the custom character options. No surprise when one of the designers is on twitter attacking "white people" for being white among other things. They also brag about their agenda to push cultural marxism based "intersectionality" into games.

    Based on that, one of the lead gameplay designers, Ian Soon Frazier, let drop that they will have to patch in lighter "tones" for the skin.

    Third, because of clear PC driven ideology is doing the hires for "management" positions, its no surprise then that those placed in creative positions are picked less for talent or capability, but more for what their identity most likely is. The result is some very piss poor writing and cringeworthy ideology based dictates that effect the game as a whole.

    Fourth, again they only used $40 million on this game and still did a ton of outsourcing. This is not the Bioware of old, but just another EA IP thats going to be used and abused till its not worth using anymore. EA is where good studios go to die. This is not hyperbole either, but the literal history of EA, especially in relation to buyouts.

    Finally, and this is perhaps the most important part of all of this...
    WHY, is MMORPG.com focusing so much on non mmorpg games? Why go through so much effort to set up, promote and over value this game? What kind of benefits is MMORPG.com getting from EA? Are there "gifts" with those review copies? Why is there a sudden push to focus on non mmorpg games?

    ME:A doesn't belong here. Why push it?
  • ForgrimmForgrimm Member EpicPosts: 2,858
    DataDay said:
    ME:A doesn't belong here. Why push it?
    They've been covering non-mmo's for years.
  • DataDayDataDay Member UncommonPosts: 1,518
    Forgrimm said:
    DataDay said:
    ME:A doesn't belong here. Why push it?
    They've been covering non-mmo's for years.
    To this extent? I have been here for years and have only seen it get worse.

    ME:A still doesnt belong here, nor do the other non mmorpgs.
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,180
    DataDay said:
    First, from Tech Raptor.
    "Robertson stated that an artist “suggested that there are “sensitivities” within the company about representing women in a certain way.” It is important to note that while there is a PC" (Politically Correct, aka activism) "corporate culture involved in BioWare, it is not one that has been mandated by the staff. Robertson clarified with TechRaptor, noting that meetings between EA and BioWare have taken place regarding their games being more inclusive and diverse. "

    Second, pale skin was noticeably absent from the custom character options. No surprise when one of the designers is on twitter attacking "white people" for being white among other things. They also brag about their agenda to push cultural marxism based "intersectionality" into games.

    Based on that, one of the lead gameplay designers, Ian Soon Frazier, let drop that they will have to patch in lighter "tones" for the skin.


    LOL"pale" skin, not white skin.... there's a difference, it's just F'k silly the lengths people are taking this to. So they've gotta patch in nonsense rather than fix actual real problems? Congrats to the chicken littles I guess.... who complain about racial politics and then make a stink about their own trivial "exclusion" I can't be as pale as a ghost, oh noes... If no one knew about what that one employee said, do you really think this would have come up at all?

    I have never seen this level of superficial nonsense about a game ever.... 







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