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Lol nvida has to be one of the top companies for being evil.

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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 7,879
    edited March 2017
    ikcin said:
    Scorchien said:
    No , they settled out of court , knowing they were in the wrong, rather than go thru court ,(the other 11 were to stupid or Stubborn)  sorry man but the court records speak for themselves realtive to these cases ,and are there for anyone to read and not speculate , (that 134 buckled under pressure) , They knew they were in the wrong and came to a fair settlement with Monsanto, go read the cases , some of these farmers were caught blantantly lying and purgering themselves  ...
    So when a multibillion company, that has a big lobby in the Congress and the Senate, and literally makes its own legislation, puts a pressure on a small farmer, he could win? The court decides according to the law. There is not matter who lies and who tells the truth. Only the legislation matters. If it is legal to kill people, the court cannot put in the jail any murder. And if the law protects Monsanto, every farmer is guilty.
    I just spent the past hour reading in detail many of these court cases, humorous at best is the reaction to some of these thieves , and the way the went about there shady business.... Its 11 cases in 20 years , go read them ... Funny at best , thieves for sure 





    Fact: Monsanto has never sued a farmer when trace amounts of our patented seeds or traits were present in the farmer’s field as an accident or as a result of inadvertent means.


    It is truly as simple as this: Monsanto has a long-standing public commitment that “it has never been, nor will it be, Monsanto’s policy to exercise its patent rights where trace amounts of our patented seeds or traits are present in a farmer’s fields as a result of inadvertent means.”

    The misperception that Monsanto would sue a farmer if GM seed was accidentally in his field likely began with Percy Schmeiser, who was brought to court in Canada by Monsanto for illegally saving Roundup Ready® canola seed. Mr. Schmeiser claims to this day the presence of Monsanto’s technology in his fields was accidental – even though three separate court decisions, including one by the Canadian Supreme court, concluded his claims were false.

    In 2012-2013, two separate courts acknowledged that Monsanto has not taken any action – or even suggested taking any action – against organic growers because of cross-pollination.

    The Organic Seed Growers and Trade Association (OSGATA) and others filed a lawsuit against Monsanto in an effort to invalidate Monsanto’s patents because of alleged fears of Monsanto exercising its patent rights and suing farmers if crops were inadvertently cross-pollinated. The U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York dismissed the case and commented:

    • There was no case or controversy in the matter because Monsanto had not taken any action or even suggested taking any action against any of the plaintiffs.
    • Monsanto had a long-standing public commitment that “it has never been, nor will it be, Monsanto policy to exercise its patent rights where trace amounts of our patented seeds or traits are present in a farmer’s fields as a result of inadvertent means.”
    • Plaintiffs’ allegations were “unsubstantiated … given that not one single plaintiff claims to have been so threatened.”
    • Plaintiffs had “overstate[d] the magnitude of [Monsanto’s] patent enforcement,” noting that Monsanto’s average of roughly 13 lawsuits per year “is hardly significant when compared to the number of farms in the United States, approximately two million.”

  • Viper482Viper482 Member EpicPosts: 3,409
    God forbid a business put profits as their top goal. You don't have to buy nvidia you know? I hear there is this other thing called AMD Radeon. This is a free market system, if AMD steps up and starts making better quality products maybe Nvidia will lower their prices to compete.

    This notion that businesses should not be modeled for maximum profit is just silly. They are not here so you can be a pc gamer with the best for cheap, they are here to make money. Get over it. I hear North Korea doesn't allow capitalism, perhaps you would be happier there. 
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,067
    DMKano said:
    OP ever heard of Monsanto?


    Well although they could share the corrupt part as Nvidia got to where it is by spending money in courts to knock off 3DFX similar to how Soundblaster became popular via the same method Monsanto also added chemicals o their products.

    Then ask yourself how these giants get away with what they do.

    Court,laws,regulators are paid off,money and lobbyists with money rule the world,everyone else is just a passenger.

    Since these cards could do quite a lot 15 years ago,one has to wonder why such small increments after all these years and why games still run so poorly.

    Just do enough to interest the foolish spenders as long as somewhere it can be said the new product is somehow better,there is a lineup of people waiting to buy.

    As fo games,developers are in a race to get a product out,everyday is tons of potential money lost.They are not going to spend tons of time optimizing every last model,mesh,scene,map nor are they going to optimize the gpu,it is not their field of expertise.

    So another 10 years and we will see games needing 25% more power bu gpus will deliver 20% more power,so we end up stationary never advancing,in a way similar to leveling,you get stronger but the mobs get jut as strong so you never really advance.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • ikcinikcin Member RarePosts: 2,211
    edited March 2017
    Scorchien said:
    I just spent the past hour reading in detail many of these court cases, humorous at best is the reaction to some of these thieves , and the way the went about there shady business.... Its 11 cases in 20 years , go read them ... Funny at best , thieves for sure 

    So did they steal crops from Monsanto's store? Because they did not. They did not pay the additional fee to Monsanto for some of the seeds they used. As they used the seeds they harvest to plant. Something farmers do from thousands of years. But the law in US does not allow it. The law enforced by Monsanto.

    And check this "Monsanto's Harvest of Fear"

  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 7,879
    ikcin said:
    Scorchien said:
    I just spent the past hour reading in detail many of these court cases, humorous at best is the reaction to some of these thieves , and the way the went about there shady business.... Its 11 cases in 20 years , go read them ... Funny at best , thieves for sure 
    So did they steal crops from Monsanto's store? Because they did not. They did not pay the additional fee to Monsanto for some of the seeds they used. As they used the seeds they harvest to plant. Something farmers do from thousands of years. But the law in US does not allows it. The law enforced by Monsanto.
    lmao , you need to go read...
  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 7,879
    ikcin said:
    Scorchien said:
    I just spent the past hour reading in detail many of these court cases, humorous at best is the reaction to some of these thieves , and the way the went about there shady business.... Its 11 cases in 20 years , go read them ... Funny at best , thieves for sure 

    So did they steal crops from Monsanto's store? Because they did not. They did not pay the additional fee to Monsanto for some of the seeds they used. As they used the seeds they harvest to plant. Something farmers do from thousands of years. But the law in US does not allow it. The law enforced by Monsanto.

    And check this "Monsanto's Harvest of Fear"

    Hahah Rhinehart , whos nephew was selling the seeds in unmarked brown paper bags , yes , yes very good example ..lmfao
  • ikcinikcin Member RarePosts: 2,211
    Scorchien said:
    lmao , you need to go read...
    I already did it, before few years. Monsanto pays to republicans and democrats both, they make legislation, then the corporation enforce a monopoly on the market with lawsuits. To call farmers thieves, because they planted the seeds they have harvested, is ridiculous. 
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    ikcin said:
    Scorchien said:
    lmao , you need to go read...
    I already did it, before few years. Monsanto pays to republicans and democrats both, they make legislation, then the corporation enforce a monopoly on the market with lawsuits. To call farmers thieves, because they planted the seeds they have harvested, is ridiculous. 
    There is also the issue with cross polination from neighbouring fields, that was causing a problem too, though honestly, that someone is actually defending Monsanto, beggars belief.

    http://www.fooddemocracynow.org/blog/2014/sep/6/monsanto_has_sued_farmers_16_years_never_lost_case

    Monsanto, is not a friend to Farmers, but a tyrant that has to be obeyed, or else.
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Viper482 said:
    God forbid a business put profits as their top goal. You don't have to buy nvidia you know? I hear there is this other thing called AMD Radeon. This is a free market system, if AMD steps up and starts making better quality products maybe Nvidia will lower their prices to compete.

    This notion that businesses should not be modeled for maximum profit is just silly. They are not here so you can be a pc gamer with the best for cheap, they are here to make money. Get over it. I hear North Korea doesn't allow capitalism, perhaps you would be happier there. 
    SO much this.. what ever happened to people realizing they had a choice to buy things or not?

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  • ThaneThane Member EpicPosts: 3,520
    edited March 2017
    well, it's quite simple, you think you can sell em cheaper? then do it?
    people would surely buy it.

    and quite frankly, i don't think you ever encountered real evil :)

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  • PsYcHoGBRPsYcHoGBR Member UncommonPosts: 480
    I stopped supporting Nvidia and went down the AMD route as soon as I saw Nvidia drop support for the 9 series just after the 10 series was released.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-eol-graphics-card,26304.html

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 23,116
    PsYcHoGBR said:
    I stopped supporting Nvidia and went down the AMD route as soon as I saw Nvidia drop support for the 9 series just after the 10 series was released.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-eol-graphics-card,26304.html

    Your link is to an article about Nvidia ending driver support for cards of the Tesla architecture about 4 1/2 years after the launch of the last of those cards.  That was over 8 years after the launch of the first of those cards.  You can't expect driver support forever, and that length of support is in line with what AMD offers.

    Nvidia didn't drop support for the GeForce 900 series when the GeForce 1000 series launched.  They might have stopped building the 900 series cards now that it makes no sense to buy one new anymore, but they'll offer driver support for several more years.  Pascal is a similar enough architecture to Maxwell that they'll probably discontinue driver support for both at the same time.
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 6,456
    Loke666 said:
    DMKano said:
    I wouldnt even call them greedy - considering the business of capitalism, its pretty damn normal.

    Again if you want to see evil - research Monsanto
     Heard a lot about them, yes. Not much good. But the competition is tough, Lundin Petrolium is the worst one we have here in Sweden, moved 200K people against their will in Africa and had certain people who protested too much killed.

    But you are right, there are few megacorps or regular companies that aren't greedy (if any, possibly something Musk own) and Nvidia is far from the worst one, even in hardware. 

    Greedy is only really annoying when the people who do it pretends they aren't, like a certain huge Irish rockband that talked about how important it was that everyone paid their taxes to help the country recover from the finance crisis while they themselves paid their own taxes somewhere else that was far cheaper.
    Google up Belgium, the Congo and the rubber industry.

    Pure evil

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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 7,879
    Phry said:
    ikcin said:
    Scorchien said:
    lmao , you need to go read...
    I already did it, before few years. Monsanto pays to republicans and democrats both, they make legislation, then the corporation enforce a monopoly on the market with lawsuits. To call farmers thieves, because they planted the seeds they have harvested, is ridiculous. 
    There is also the issue with cross polination from neighbouring fields, that was causing a problem too, though honestly, that someone is actually defending Monsanto, beggars belief.

    http://www.fooddemocracynow.org/blog/2014/sep/6/monsanto_has_sued_farmers_16_years_never_lost_case

    Monsanto, is not a friend to Farmers, but a tyrant that has to be obeyed, or else.

    The Organic Seed Growers and Trade Association (OSGATA) and others filed a lawsuit against Monsanto in an effort to invalidate Monsanto’s patents because of alleged fears of Monsanto exercising its patent rights and suing farmers if crops were inadvertently cross-pollinated. The U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York dismissed the case and commented:

    • There was no case or controversy in the matter because Monsanto had not taken any action or even suggested taking any action against any of the plaintiffs.
    • Monsanto had a long-standing public commitment that “it has never been, nor will it be, Monsanto policy to exercise its patent rights where trace amounts of our patented seeds or traits are present in a farmer’s fields as a result of inadvertent means.”
    • Plaintiffs’ allegations were “unsubstantiated … given that not one single plaintiff claims to have been so threatened.”
    • Plaintiffs had “overstate[d] the magnitude of [Monsanto’s] patent enforcement,” noting that Monsanto’s average of roughly 13 lawsuits per year “is hardly significant when compared to the number of farms in the United States, approximately two million.”

  • PsYcHoGBRPsYcHoGBR Member UncommonPosts: 480
    Quizzical said:
    PsYcHoGBR said:
    I stopped supporting Nvidia and went down the AMD route as soon as I saw Nvidia drop support for the 9 series just after the 10 series was released.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-eol-graphics-card,26304.html

    Your link is to an article about Nvidia ending driver support for cards of the Tesla architecture about 4 1/2 years after the launch of the last of those cards.  That was over 8 years after the launch of the first of those cards.  You can't expect driver support forever, and that length of support is in line with what AMD offers.

    Nvidia didn't drop support for the GeForce 900 series when the GeForce 1000 series launched.  They might have stopped building the 900 series cards now that it makes no sense to buy one new anymore, but they'll offer driver support for several more years.  Pascal is a similar enough architecture to Maxwell that they'll probably discontinue driver support for both at the same time.
    https://tech4gamers.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-900-series-is-obsolete-say-hello-to-legacy-drivers/

  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    ikcin said:

    You know a article is terribad when the first claim of Saccharin being a poison can be easily disputed just by searching pubmed or any other scientific source that is peer reviewed. Not even 10 sentences in and the authors bias is already in your face lol.

    I'm not defending Monsanto but I really do hate misinformation. Don't get me started on the GMO debate either lol.
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 7,962
    PsYcHoGBR said:
    Quizzical said:
    PsYcHoGBR said:
    I stopped supporting Nvidia and went down the AMD route as soon as I saw Nvidia drop support for the 9 series just after the 10 series was released.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-eol-graphics-card,26304.html

    Your link is to an article about Nvidia ending driver support for cards of the Tesla architecture about 4 1/2 years after the launch of the last of those cards.  That was over 8 years after the launch of the first of those cards.  You can't expect driver support forever, and that length of support is in line with what AMD offers.

    Nvidia didn't drop support for the GeForce 900 series when the GeForce 1000 series launched.  They might have stopped building the 900 series cards now that it makes no sense to buy one new anymore, but they'll offer driver support for several more years.  Pascal is a similar enough architecture to Maxwell that they'll probably discontinue driver support for both at the same time.
    https://tech4gamers.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-900-series-is-obsolete-say-hello-to-legacy-drivers/

    When I got to get drivers for 600 series cards they still have them so you can check each time a driver comes out it supports even older cards than the 900 series. It is in the list of cards so technically they are still providing support.

    http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/geforce-378-92-whql-driver-download.html

    check that see all that way to 400 series

    Supported

    GeForce 10 Series
    NVIDIA TITAN X (Pascal), GeForce GTX 1080 and Ti, GeForce GTX 1070, GeForce GTX 1060, GeForce GTX 1050 Ti, GeForce GTX 1050

    GeForce 900 Series
    GeForce GTX TITAN X, GeForce GTX 980 Ti, GeForce GTX 980, GeForce GTX 970, GeForce GTX 960, GeForce GTX 950

    GeForce 700 Series
    GeForce GTX TITAN Z, GeForce GTX TITAN Black, GeForce GTX TITAN, GeForce GTX 780 Ti, GeForce GTX 780, GeForce GTX 770, GeForce GTX 760, GeForce GTX 760 Ti (OEM), GeForce GTX 750 Ti, GeForce GTX 750, GeForce GTX 745, GeForce GT 740, GeForce GT 730, GeForce GT 720, GeForce GT 710, GeForce GT 705

    GeForce 600 Series
    GeForce GTX 690, GeForce GTX 680, GeForce GTX 670, GeForce GTX 660 Ti, GeForce GTX 660, GeForce GTX 650 Ti BOOST, GeForce GTX 650 Ti, GeForce GTX 650, GeForce GTX 645, GeForce GT 645, GeForce GT 640, GeForce GT 635, GeForce GT 630, GeForce GT 620, GeForce GT 610, GeForce 605

    GeForce 500 Series
    GeForce GTX 590, GeForce GTX 580, GeForce GTX 570, GeForce GTX 560 Ti, GeForce GTX 560 SE, GeForce GTX 560, GeForce GTX 555, GeForce GTX 550 Ti, GeForce GT 545, GeForce GT 530, GeForce GT 520, GeForce 510

    GeForce 400 Series
    GeForce GTX 480, GeForce GTX 470, GeForce GTX 465, GeForce GTX 460 SE v2, GeForce GTX 460 SE, GeForce GTX 460, GeForce GTS 450, GeForce GT 440, GeForce GT 430, GeForce GT 420


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  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    Vrika said:
    It's not that simple. New manufacturing processes are always unreliable. GTX 1080 TI likely wasn't possible a year ago because too many of them would have failed during manufacturing, and the rest would have been as costly as Titan.

    Now the process is older and works more reliably, and they can sell larger chips at consumer prices.
    If that is true, than never mind about my first statement. Make sense if that is the case. 
    Oh yields are absolutely a huge part of it.
    Why Intel adopted a tick-tock cycle several years ago - which is now a tick-tock-tock cycle. Lots of info on the aims of each stage of their manufacturing cycle. 

    Why it took a little while before stock really hit the shelves - it wasn't a "soft launch" but nor were the early cards abundant.

    Add in that NVidia will have gotten feedback from people who bought the 1080 - feedback which will have fed into the modifications that resulted in the 1080Ti - and you start to see the issues.

    Now, on top of all that, they will be aiming to a) make as much money as they can b) keep their customers happy c) keep up with anything that AMD and others are doing. Which just adds to the complexity.


  • PsYcHoGBRPsYcHoGBR Member UncommonPosts: 480
    edited March 2017
    cheyane said:
    PsYcHoGBR said:
    Quizzical said:
    PsYcHoGBR said:
    I stopped supporting Nvidia and went down the AMD route as soon as I saw Nvidia drop support for the 9 series just after the 10 series was released.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-eol-graphics-card,26304.html

    Your link is to an article about Nvidia ending driver support for cards of the Tesla architecture about 4 1/2 years after the launch of the last of those cards.  That was over 8 years after the launch of the first of those cards.  You can't expect driver support forever, and that length of support is in line with what AMD offers.

    Nvidia didn't drop support for the GeForce 900 series when the GeForce 1000 series launched.  They might have stopped building the 900 series cards now that it makes no sense to buy one new anymore, but they'll offer driver support for several more years.  Pascal is a similar enough architecture to Maxwell that they'll probably discontinue driver support for both at the same time.
    https://tech4gamers.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-900-series-is-obsolete-say-hello-to-legacy-drivers/

    When I got to get drivers for 600 series cards they still have them so you can check each time a driver comes out it supports even older cards than the 900 series. It is in the list of cards so technically they are still providing support.

    http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/geforce-378-92-whql-driver-download.html

    check that see all that way to 400 series

    Supported

    GeForce 10 Series
    NVIDIA TITAN X (Pascal), GeForce GTX 1080 and Ti, GeForce GTX 1070, GeForce GTX 1060, GeForce GTX 1050 Ti, GeForce GTX 1050

    GeForce 900 Series
    GeForce GTX TITAN X, GeForce GTX 980 Ti, GeForce GTX 980, GeForce GTX 970, GeForce GTX 960, GeForce GTX 950

    GeForce 700 Series
    GeForce GTX TITAN Z, GeForce GTX TITAN Black, GeForce GTX TITAN, GeForce GTX 780 Ti, GeForce GTX 780, GeForce GTX 770, GeForce GTX 760, GeForce GTX 760 Ti (OEM), GeForce GTX 750 Ti, GeForce GTX 750, GeForce GTX 745, GeForce GT 740, GeForce GT 730, GeForce GT 720, GeForce GT 710, GeForce GT 705

    GeForce 600 Series
    GeForce GTX 690, GeForce GTX 680, GeForce GTX 670, GeForce GTX 660 Ti, GeForce GTX 660, GeForce GTX 650 Ti BOOST, GeForce GTX 650 Ti, GeForce GTX 650, GeForce GTX 645, GeForce GT 645, GeForce GT 640, GeForce GT 635, GeForce GT 630, GeForce GT 620, GeForce GT 610, GeForce 605

    GeForce 500 Series
    GeForce GTX 590, GeForce GTX 580, GeForce GTX 570, GeForce GTX 560 Ti, GeForce GTX 560 SE, GeForce GTX 560, GeForce GTX 555, GeForce GTX 550 Ti, GeForce GT 545, GeForce GT 530, GeForce GT 520, GeForce 510

    GeForce 400 Series
    GeForce GTX 480, GeForce GTX 470, GeForce GTX 465, GeForce GTX 460 SE v2, GeForce GTX 460 SE, GeForce GTX 460, GeForce GTS 450, GeForce GT 440, GeForce GT 430, GeForce GT 420


    GeForce GTX 900 series graphics card owners will receive limited support of driver to fix problems for at least a couple of years, but you should not expect any improvement in performance or better support for upcoming games on the market.

    Hey if your happy with that sort of support for a card that's over a year old that's ok but I would be so pissed off hence I jumped camp to AMD.
  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,029
    edited March 2017
    DMKano said:
    Loke666 said:
    I don't think we share the definition of "evil", mine has more to do with polluting the earth out of laziness, actually killing people (have happened in Africa with more then a few oil companies), ignoring safety issues that can hurt or kill their own employees or selling products like medicines that don't work and so on.

    Even EA is pretty low on the evil scale (but buying up companies and firing all employees just to get a name or license is evil even if it just is petty evil), Nvida could at worst be called "greedy".


    I wouldnt even call them greedy - considering the business of capitalism, its pretty damn normal.

    Again if you want to see evil - research Monsanto
    GMOS are safe.  Monsanto isn't an evil company lol.  You need to stop getting your "research" from naturalnews and David Wolfe.  
  • cloudacvcloudacv Member UncommonPosts: 209
    ikcin said:
    Scorchien said:
    Since the mid‑1990s, Monsanto indicates that it has filed suit against 145 individual U.S. farmers for patent infringement and/or breach of contract in connection with its genetically engineered seed but has proceeded through trial against only eleven farmers, all of which it won..

      11 isnt dozens , and they won every case , lol some of these farmers plead guilty and did jail time for there theft ....
    Very cool data, but how much paid the rest 134 evil thieves, called farmers? Because most of them also paid for their 'theft'. It is very scary when a company rules the government and the public systems like the jurisdiction, because that leads to totalitarianism. If you check the communist party in USSR, it has a typical corporative structure with chairman, CEOs, board of CEOs, business plans, production goals, marketing targets and etc. In fact this is the edge of the capitalism, when every citizen is turned into production unit without any civil rights.
    You people are crazy if you think its ok to steal someone elses work at call it yours. You then call them evil for sueing people that stole from them and used the seeds as their own. It wouldnt be stealing but the fact that they used their seeds as their own is stealing.  You stupid communist bastards dont even understand capitalism you just want to run around and call everything evil because you believe whatever you see on facebook. Just like all those faggots that eat bananas then say theyre gmo free. no youre not dipshit a banana is a gmo and weve been genetically altering food since the beginning of time. God damnit you people are stupid.
  • Viper482Viper482 Member EpicPosts: 3,409
    PsYcHoGBR said:
    I stopped supporting Nvidia and went down the AMD route as soon as I saw Nvidia drop support for the 9 series just after the 10 series was released.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-eol-graphics-card,26304.html

    Wait a minute....you made a CHOICE?! Omg! A company did something you did not like so you took your business elsewhere? Unbelievable.

    /sarcasm off

    This is how free market works.
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  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,029
    cloudacv said:
    ikcin said:
    Scorchien said:
    Since the mid‑1990s, Monsanto indicates that it has filed suit against 145 individual U.S. farmers for patent infringement and/or breach of contract in connection with its genetically engineered seed but has proceeded through trial against only eleven farmers, all of which it won..

      11 isnt dozens , and they won every case , lol some of these farmers plead guilty and did jail time for there theft ....
    Very cool data, but how much paid the rest 134 evil thieves, called farmers? Because most of them also paid for their 'theft'. It is very scary when a company rules the government and the public systems like the jurisdiction, because that leads to totalitarianism. If you check the communist party in USSR, it has a typical corporative structure with chairman, CEOs, board of CEOs, business plans, production goals, marketing targets and etc. In fact this is the edge of the capitalism, when every citizen is turned into production unit without any civil rights.
    You people are crazy if you think its ok to steal someone elses work at call it yours. You then call them evil for sueing people that stole from them and used the seeds as their own. It wouldnt be stealing but the fact that they used their seeds as their own is stealing.  You stupid communist bastards dont even understand capitalism you just want to run around and call everything evil because you believe whatever you see on facebook. Just like all those faggots that eat bananas then say theyre gmo free. no youre not dipshit a banana is a gmo and weve been genetically altering food since the beginning of time. God damnit you people are stupid.
    I agree with what you said.  But this part is completely uncalled for and to many people will discredit any point you're trying to get across.  
  • Jamar870Jamar870 Member UncommonPosts: 506
    Well if we are talking about "evil"/greedy companies and such, how about the RIAA and Movie people. They are working towards turning copyright into FOREVER RIGHT.
  • bonzoso21bonzoso21 Member UncommonPosts: 379
    When it comes to consumer electronics, PC hardware, or anything in the technology industry, one pretty much has to assume that something newer and better will always be around the corner and that new releases will reduce the price of older stuff. Eventually, you make the decision that it's time to upgrade and you can't wait any longer, so you buy something. If you did your research and considered past experiences correctly, you might go 8-12 months before something is released that is newer and better than what you bought. If something comes out within a few months, then you didn't do enough research or use common sense, and really have no one to blame but yourself. I did it last year when I bought a GTX 970 for over $300 just 4 months before the launch of the 1000 series, and it was my own damn fault.

    The alternative is to be so paralyzed by the fact that your purchase will just become obsolete soon that you never end up buying anything new.
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