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  • MukeMuke Member RarePosts: 2,612
    edited February 2017
    goboygo said:
    Another Manufactured Drama I'm kicking off the doom and gloom train first post.  The game will be fine as Conan Exiles. It doesn't have to compare to the freakishly successful and fantastic title that is ARK.  Its just silly to take that angle.  There are plenty of people that want to play something different.

    And I used 800 less words.
    ARK fantastic?

    Unreleased yet a paid DLC available?
    Releasing a paid!! DLC when the core game is still broken, players outrage but all complaints are replied with "you can not complain, this game is still beta, can we have your money?" excuse. Hint: A game can not be beta when there is a paid DLC, simple as that.

    Majority of the official servers are barely populated.

    Stealth nerfs galore
    67% structure timer nerf unannounced and patched in, leaving the majority of the playerbase to lose ALL their stuff they grinded for. Devs reverted the change, not the patch.

    Bugs galore

    Grindfest
    Content gone due to bugs or a patch? "Sorry, better luck next time"

    Gamebreaking bugs not fixed since release

    PVP players killing off all your stuff from shooting UNDER the map.

    Awful PVP system

    Awful lag spikes, since release. (The 15min save system)

    The only way ARK boosts their servers a bit was by releasing to consoles.
    Prior to that the official PC servers were ALL like 15/70 populated in Prime Time.

    ARK is only great when played on UNofficial servers, with mods that negate the bad patches and gameplay issued by the developers.

    You don't have to say to me this game is great, I played since day 1, and I know this game can be great, but is moderated and patched into the ground by devs that have no clue what they are doing.
    Other then coding in a
    "tame dino A, fetch eggs, make kibble, tame dino B, fetch eggs, make kibble, tame Dino C........on to Dino ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ" system.

    Just to lenghten THE GRIND to keep ppl logging in every day.



    ARK official: sucks 100%
    ARK Unofficial: can be good with the correct server admins and good mods.

    Phry

    "going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"

  • Tiamat64Tiamat64 Member RarePosts: 1,448
    rodarin said:
    This game is probably the end for Funcom. 

    Nah, they made back their money. Since the game's buy-to-play, it doesn't really matter that much from a business sense how many players stick around.  If not enough players stick around, Funcom can just get to work on a new game  (actually, I'm not really seeing much business sense to pouring lots of resources into continual Conan Exiles development even if lots of players DO stick around, unless it ends up being lots and lots and LOTS of players, which doesn't seem to be the case here and I doubt they were expecting as such anyways).
  • Kunai_VaxKunai_Vax Member RarePosts: 527
    Tiamat64 said:
    rodarin said:
    This game is probably the end for Funcom. 

    Nah, they made back their money. Since the game's buy-to-play, it doesn't really matter that much from a business sense how many players stick around.  If not enough players stick around, Funcom can just get to work on a new game  (actually, I'm not really seeing much business sense to pouring lots of resources into continual Conan Exiles development even if lots of players DO stick around, unless it ends up being lots and lots and LOTS of players, which doesn't seem to be the case here and I doubt they were expecting as such anyways).
    Yeah but abandoning a game so soon after release would leave a bad taste in conusmers mouths and no doubt affect sales for their next project. 

  • WarlyxWarlyx Member RarePosts: 2,767
    Tokken said:
    two words: Early Acess. - the reviews are not in yet since the game is in its early stage.
    u cant say nothing wrong about X game , it has the "EARLY ACCESS SHIELD UP" and is inmune :p


  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,584
    THis is why we as gamers fail.....Blindly paying money for games is a ridiculous practice.....IF the game isnt willing to even give a free trial then i am not interested, especially from a company that has had some really bad games.
    I will get the game but I'm waiting.  A few of their games launched years ago still have bugs that haven't been worked on.

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  • linadragonlinadragon Member RarePosts: 569
    Warlyx said:
    Tokken said:
    two words: Early Acess. - the reviews are not in yet since the game is in its early stage.
    u cant say nothing wrong about X game , it has the "EARLY ACCESS SHIELD UP" and is inmune :p


    It's been out for like a bit over a week now. It is in a better place than most other games of that type on their first week of EA.
  • mymmomymmo Member UncommonPosts: 309
    Sight.
    So the doom n gloom sayers are still around with their sayings. It wasnt cool 2010 and its quite dull now.

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  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,262
    I'm enjoying it.  Needs some work for sure, but I go into early access games expecting 'early access.'  I haven't been playing as much because I'm waiting for the server issue to be resolved (moving them to a new hosting place).  Overall, a solid C+ atm.  I don't require everything to be A+ to be considered fun.

    Concentrate on enjoying yourself, and not on why I shouldn't enjoy myself.

  • redneckgamerredneckgamer Member UncommonPosts: 52
    I've played for 1 day so far and really enjoying it, playing on a server with some friends.  Took me quite a while and lots of deaths to get to their base but I finally made it and got a bedroll down nearby.  Conan has a lot better story and more lore then ark has.  It also doesn't use all my memory and crash my computer like ark does.  
    The game is early access and they are very clear about that before you buy.  Don't like that model? Don't buy.  Simple as that.
  • XodicXodic Member RarePosts: 929
    edited February 2017
    Conan is already a financial success in terms of being back in the black, whether it remains that way throughout development it's hard to tell. I would assume that they now have a threshold for when to cut sling if it starts going south.

    As with all games rushed to Early Access, the initial welcoming is usually the largest you'll see, with a few exceptions. The only way this game will grow, obviously, is if they retain their current base at a higher rate than new purchases. At this point that seems unlikely, and until they plug those holes they're polishing brass on the Titanic, for every new player that comes aboard is potentially turned off from having to bail water. On the plus side, I can't think of any titles releasing that would capture Conan fans enough to make them completely abandon ship.
  • DraemosDraemos Member UncommonPosts: 1,518
    edited February 2017
    FunCom should be making a Conan game the nature of Witcher 3.  That's where their strength as a company lies... in adult themes and storytelling. I have no idea why they decided to make MMOs and survival games.   It's like if Bioware started making MoBAs
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 26,188
    It's an early access title and not a complete game.

    My guess is that a lot of people didn't realize what they were getting into because they weren't bright.

    Still, others just wanted to experience the game as it was at the moment and will revisit it over the course of the development.

    I know I do this with the few early access titles I've bought into. However, I'm still actively playing this game as I think it's very good for what it is at the moment.



  • Dagon13Dagon13 Member UncommonPosts: 552
    Then cut your losses.  Time spent posting about it is more time you spend dedicating to a game that is supposedly not worth your time.
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,215
    Sovrath said:
    It's an early access title and not a complete game.

    My guess is that a lot of people didn't realize what they were getting into because they weren't bright.

    Still, others just wanted to experience the game as it was at the moment and will revisit it over the course of the development.

    I know I do this with the few early access titles I've bought into. However, I'm still actively playing this game as I think it's very good for what it is at the moment.
    The logic is sound, but as someone else mentioned..  ARK's still technically in Early Access and has since released a paid DLC.  You don't release paid expansion content to a game that isn't even "released" itself, unless you really consider the game released internally but retain the Early Access title for PR slack only.  We, as gamers, should be raising holy hell about asking us to pay for expansion content when the base game is still listed as unreleased and unfinished.  Instead, we squabble amongst each other and trade insults, all the while publishers and developers push this envelope a little further every time they see the last move fail to elicit a negative backlash of any significant magnitude.  We should be shutting this shit down quick, fast, and in a hurry.  I find the idea that they even attempt to offer paid DLC while still in Early Access to be, quite frankly, insulting to my intelligence.  "Oh, so you've used the money I paid for Early Access (which was supposed to help finish development of the base game) to create another avenue to fleece me for cash, instead of moving the base game to a fully released status?  And you were hoping I wouldn't notice that you used my money not to finish the game I paid you for, but to create a new way to ask me for money?  Kindly go fuck yourselves!"

    That's the very real slippery slope that some folks take issue with when people try to use the "EA" defense.  The only people looking at Early Access as true "early access" or beta testing are the gamers.  The publishers and developers are making money just the same as gold.  They look at it the same, as is made obvious by the Ark example above.

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  • MoiraeMoirae Member RarePosts: 3,317
    edited February 2017
    It quite literally just released. Every single game has problems on release. If it's still having this many problems six months down the road, that's when you can say it's failing. People are starting to learn NOT to try out a game on immediate release, so it's entirely possible that the number of players will increase for a bit down the road, then decrease again. 
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 26,188
    Sovrath said:
    It's an early access title and not a complete game.

    My guess is that a lot of people didn't realize what they were getting into because they weren't bright.

    Still, others just wanted to experience the game as it was at the moment and will revisit it over the course of the development.

    I know I do this with the few early access titles I've bought into. However, I'm still actively playing this game as I think it's very good for what it is at the moment.
    The logic is sound, but as someone else mentioned..  ARK's still technically in Early Access and has since released a paid DLC.  You don't release paid expansion content to a game that isn't even "released" itself, unless you really consider the game released internally but retain the Early Access title for PR slack only.  We, as gamers, should be raising holy hell about asking us to pay for expansion content when the base game is still listed as unreleased and unfinished.  Instead, we squabble amongst each other and trade insults, all the while publishers and developers push this envelope a little further every time they see the last move fail to elicit a negative backlash of any significant magnitude.  We should be shutting this shit down quick, fast, and in a hurry.  I find the idea that they even attempt to offer paid DLC while still in Early Access to be, quite frankly, insulting to my intelligence.  "Oh, so you've used the money I paid for Early Access (which was supposed to help finish development of the base game) to create another avenue to fleece me for cash, instead of moving the base game to a fully released status?  And you were hoping I wouldn't notice that you used my money not to finish the game I paid you for, but to create a new way to ask me for money?  Kindly go fuck yourselves!"

    That's the very real slippery slope that some folks take issue with when people try to use the "EA" defense.  The only people looking at Early Access as true "early access" or beta testing are the gamers.  The publishers and developers are making money just the same as gold.  They look at it the same, as is made obvious by the Ark example above.
    That's great but that's Ark. It's very clear to anyone who has played Conan Exiles that it is an early access title.

    Should they release a paid expansion to Conan Exiles then people should react accordingly. I however will pay it as I think the game is great and I didn't pay to get the game so I have no problem supporting it.



  • AllerleirauhAllerleirauh Member UncommonPosts: 485
    the people commenting here on games such as this, using words such as "potential", "great" and "promising"...

    Should all be shot.
    Or how about we take you out back and do the same to you? If you can't see the potential for it to be a bigger game maybe YOU have a problem and are a jaded gamer and should take a break from gaming instead of being a jack ass? 
    He does have a point; I wouldn't say that they "should be all shot", but isn't that sending game developers a message? That some gamers are willing to buy a game that is not complete, buggy, etc., thus affecting the games that we are offered. If some gamers are so quick to part with their money over a "C+ game", wouldn't you agree that this has and will continue to affect the quality of available games? Of course, I'm not talking about the people who are enjoying the game; we all have different preferences.
    Currently Playing: Path of Exile

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  • AriesTigerAriesTiger Member UncommonPosts: 364
    The rats and other bad people are angry too there's no offline raiding. It's about time sandboxes did this. Either punish the offline raiders or make it gone completely. Degenerates are in heaven when they can destroy a base without anyone guarding it. But they deserve that life....
  • redneckgamerredneckgamer Member UncommonPosts: 52
    the people commenting here on games such as this, using words such as "potential", "great" and "promising"...

    Should all be shot.
    Or how about we take you out back and do the same to you? If you can't see the potential for it to be a bigger game maybe YOU have a problem and are a jaded gamer and should take a break from gaming instead of being a jack ass? 
    He does have a point; I wouldn't say that they "should be all shot", but isn't that sending game developers a message? That some gamers are willing to buy a game that is not complete, buggy, etc., thus affecting the games that we are offered. If some gamers are so quick to part with their money over a "C+ game", wouldn't you agree that this has and will continue to affect the quality of available games? Of course, I'm not talking about the people who are enjoying the game; we all have different preferences.
    It's not like they are pretending that the game is complete and bug free, there is a very clear disclaimer when you buy the game that it's early access and it's incomplete and has bugs.  It also says this every time you log into the game.  Some people choose to play the game in this state to help support development and that's fine.  I played ark when it first came out in early access as well and this game is much better than it was.  
    If someone chooses to buy the game and then complain about bugs after the very clear statement that there would be bugs, then that's on them, not the developer
  • AllerleirauhAllerleirauh Member UncommonPosts: 485
    the people commenting here on games such as this, using words such as "potential", "great" and "promising"...

    Should all be shot.
    Or how about we take you out back and do the same to you? If you can't see the potential for it to be a bigger game maybe YOU have a problem and are a jaded gamer and should take a break from gaming instead of being a jack ass? 
    He does have a point; I wouldn't say that they "should be all shot", but isn't that sending game developers a message? That some gamers are willing to buy a game that is not complete, buggy, etc., thus affecting the games that we are offered. If some gamers are so quick to part with their money over a "C+ game", wouldn't you agree that this has and will continue to affect the quality of available games? Of course, I'm not talking about the people who are enjoying the game; we all have different preferences.
    It's not like they are pretending that the game is complete and bug free, there is a very clear disclaimer when you buy the game that it's early access and it's incomplete and has bugs.  It also says this every time you log into the game.  Some people choose to play the game in this state to help support development and that's fine.  I played ark when it first came out in early access as well and this game is much better than it was.  
    If someone chooses to buy the game and then complain about bugs after the very clear statement that there would be bugs, then that's on them, not the developer
    I agree. @Phry was offering constructive criticism rather than saying he hated the game, despite saying that he probably shouldn't have purchased it. I probably wouldn't purchase a game today without having a free trial.
    Currently Playing: Path of Exile

    "I have found a desire within myself that no experience in this world can satisfy; the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." ~ C. S. Lewis
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    Tokken said:
    two words: Early Acess. - the reviews are not in yet since the game is in its early stage.
    Early Access.   Means it isnt finished and is still in development.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • RhoklawRhoklaw Member EpicPosts: 6,200
    I'm definitely not a fan of Funcom, but I do love survival games. I unlike a lot of people understand what an early access game is. I knew exactly what my $30 was paying for and it wasn't a finished product. Despite it being riddled with problems since launch, I still have 122 hours into it and I'm still playing. That means I spent about $0.25 an hour so far. In my opinion, that was a product worth paying for. Not to mention, they made their money back and probably then some. Which means a lot more features will be added, bugs fixed, content added and server netcode optimize.

    I remember when ARK launched and it went through the same crap with latency, server instability and a few game breaking bugs. In fact, to this day, ARK still has one huge ass memory leak. You know what though. I have over 500 hours invested in that game too, that I only paid $20 for.

    Conan Exiles isn't over yet...

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  • Moxom914Moxom914 Member UncommonPosts: 686
    im waiting for it to release on console
  • postlarvalpostlarval Member EpicPosts: 2,003
    Sovrath said:
    It's an early access title and not a complete game.

    My guess is that a lot of people didn't realize what they were getting into because they weren't bright.

    Still, others just wanted to experience the game as it was at the moment and will revisit it over the course of the development.

    I know I do this with the few early access titles I've bought into. However, I'm still actively playing this game as I think it's very good for what it is at the moment.
    It only took one early access fiasco (Shroud of the Avatar) to cure me of ever spending money on an unfinished game again.

    Besides, it's fun to watch all the screaming, crying, and soiling of diapers in forums for these early access games. Probably far more entertaining than the games themselves.

    I'll take a look when (if) it officially releases.
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