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Player's Choice Awards - Most Wanted MMO of 2017 a Awards at MMORPG.com

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  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    edited January 2017
    Aori said:
    ste2000 said:

    I'm all for niche games surviving, I really hope it works out. It is just unfortunate watching them get swallowed up by lofty goals and expectations then swept away whether I like the game or not.
    I don't get it, how did you come to that conclusion?

    Pantheon has a really focused core design, not much fluff.
    Dungeons, Raids, Group content and a little bit of Crafting, that's it.
    Nothing fancy or pretentious.

    Maybe you are mistaking Pantheon for CoE and its unrealistic list of features.
    VR has been very conservative so far.
    Pantheon fans asked for housing, VR said no, as it is not possible at launch (maybe later).
    So they are very realistic with their goals, they don't promise the moon just to get funding like everyone else seems to be doing at the moment.

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  • AoriAori Member EpicPosts: 4,174
    ste2000 said:
    Aori said:
    ste2000 said:

    I'm all for niche games surviving, I really hope it works out. It is just unfortunate watching them get swallowed up by lofty goals and expectations then swept away whether I like the game or not.
    I don't get it, how did you come to that conclusion?

    Pantheon has a really focused core design, not much fluff.
    Dungeons, Raids, Group content and a little bit of Crafting, that's it.
    Nothing fancy or pretentious.

    Maybe you are mistaking Pantheon for CoE and its unrealistic list of features.
    VR has been very conservative so far.
    Pantheon fans asked for housing, VR said no, as it is not possible at launch (maybe later).
    So they are very realistic with their goals, they don't promise the moon just to get funding like everyone else seems doing at the moment.

    Was just a generalization wasn't specific to Pantheon, though I think the expectations placed on Pantheon are quite high which I think is a problem of the community in general.

    I should have said and/or.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 13,290
    CrazKanuk said:
    Well Star Citizen wasn't on the list, so the staff are obviously shills ;)  

    It's ok, I get it, there probably weren't enough SC posts on here this year. I guess people will have to work harder to make people aware of it, lol.


    If the poll had been "Most wanted 64 player online game of 2017-2027" you'd have a point :)
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  • AoriAori Member EpicPosts: 4,174
    Iselin said:
    CrazKanuk said:
    Well Star Citizen wasn't on the list, so the staff are obviously shills ;)  

    It's ok, I get it, there probably weren't enough SC posts on here this year. I guess people will have to work harder to make people aware of it, lol.


    If the poll had been "Most wanted 64 player online game of 2017-2027" you'd have a point :)
    To be honest though, so many MMO's can't even hold 40 people in a phase anymore without severe issue. WoW server stability starts falling to pieces anytime more than 40 players pile into a phase. B&S has similar issues, BDO has the same issues during node wars. 

    It has been getting worse as we go along, zones can't hold the amount of people they once could. Particularly in WoW, it really irritates me.
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Iselin said:
    CrazKanuk said:
    Well Star Citizen wasn't on the list, so the staff are obviously shills ;)  

    It's ok, I get it, there probably weren't enough SC posts on here this year. I guess people will have to work harder to make people aware of it, lol.


    If the poll had been "Most wanted 64 player online game of 2017-2027" you'd have a point :)

    Yeah, but Pantheon won..... *rimshot* j/k j/k, don't hate the player. 

    Crazkanuk

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 13,290
    Aori said:
    Iselin said:
    CrazKanuk said:
    Well Star Citizen wasn't on the list, so the staff are obviously shills ;)  

    It's ok, I get it, there probably weren't enough SC posts on here this year. I guess people will have to work harder to make people aware of it, lol.


    If the poll had been "Most wanted 64 player online game of 2017-2027" you'd have a point :)
    To be honest though, so many MMO's can't even hold 40 people in a phase anymore without severe issue. WoW server stability starts falling to pieces anytime more than 40 players pile into a phase. B&S has similar issues, BDO has the same issues during node wars. 

    It has been getting worse as we go along, zones can't hold the amount of people they once could. Particularly in WoW, it really irritates me.
    I remember people telling me that the 600 or so ESO handles in their PVP zone (and it does handle it well as long as all 600 are not in the exact same place together) was nothing because BDO could handle 2000 lol. Just goes to show you how much disconnect there is between pre-release hype and post-release reality.
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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,920
    So Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen at 31.8% is the most voted. The force is strong with this one... :)

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member EpicPosts: 7,855
    So Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen at 31.8% is the most voted. The force is strong with this one... :)
    I think it shows there are more fans of the trinity system then developers think. Twitch combat was fun at first but it got old fast. 



  • CynicizmCynicizm Member UncommonPosts: 4
    Aori said:
    Kyleran said:
    Aori said:
    Kratuk said:
    Grats to Pantheon. That was a hefty cut.

    @Aori And it''s cool that you don't care for Pantheon bud. I'm just happy to see gaming in this genre offering some varying choices again. The recent cadre of MMORPGs are in large part twitch-based combat systems with rapid fire leveling and, imo, less distinct feeling class design (yes, I'm a fella that liked the tank, healer, dps, CC and +2 design). Pantheon takes it back to a more traditional system with a focus on grouping.

    If you don't like that, all good. Plenty of other stuff these days. Just less twitch-preferring peeps like me can watch on this one. Regardless, if ya hop in at launch I hope to see ya then. Take care bud. :)
    These games don't last long though, I don't think Pantheon will be any exception. I just don't understand the 10 steps back in every direction approach. 

    The whole all or nothing is just a weird idea to me. You can do a nostalgic style game without yesterdays tedious inconveniences and graphics.
    I view modern games with their "conveniences" a huge step backwards.

    Always has been about game play over graphics in my book as well.


    Well it would be a step backwards if convenience was a thing back in the day but it wasn't, it was tedium and terrible mechanics.

    I know people love their nostalgia, I have my moments too but it isn't a time I miss. Now I don't know enough about Pantheon but from just at a glance it doesn't offer me anything an older game hasn't already offered.

    The graphic vs gameplay debate is a silly one to me. Both are equally important and I place fluid animations above both. I can not stand rigid and clunky animations.
    I don't know how you can completely judge a game based on pre-alpha stuff. The game has some main points on what the gameplay will be like. If you choose based on those points you don't like it, fine, you're just limiting yourself to specific games. And some of which, as you have said before, failed.

    Think of all the most recent games that have come out and flopped. ArcheAge, had some AMAZING points for the game, the farming, the land grabbing and taxing, the trading, was awesome for an MMO, what wasn't was the PVP, the lag, the massive amounts of time you had to farm to create gear that was mostly based on RNG, so you had to do more farming.

    Wildstar, which I loved, was cartoony, I loved the graphics, I paid attention to the story line. I got bored after I reached max level, only logged on for raids.

     SWTOR, was awesome too. The story line and the choosing your own response was awesome. Reaching max level at the time wasn't, no true endgame content, and I got to endgame way too fast.

     Pantheon was not, nor will it ever be, a game for "people who don't have enough time in the day". It is a game for people who miss games that did take time. It was never about if you had enough time or not. People worked a lot when EQ came out. They still do. The only difference between then and now is the lack of patience people have. If you don't have any patience, this game is definitely not for you. But I would suggest trying it first, you might find yourself coming back to a game you still have stuff to complete in. Because that's just it, you'll always have stuff to do when you're logging in for the next year.
  • CendhariaCendharia Member UncommonPosts: 319
    No need to question the Pantheon votes. Pretty sure 95% of the userbase would heed the call to wash the dev teams cars and mow their lawns if asked to. 
    Sorry..I don't do cars or windows. :P
  • DarkArrowBgDarkArrowBg Member CommonPosts: 1
    Wait what happend with mu legend? It was on first place and now its 3rd or whatever it is
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 34,894
    Wait what happend with mu legend? It was on first place and now its 3rd or whatever it is
    Read the damn thread. ;)

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  • salaciouscrumbssalaciouscrumbs Member UncommonPosts: 169
    I would like to take this opportunity to thank the academy of MMORPG's for the honor of being correct in stating that MU was probably cheating, and that Pantheon was not.

    To the detractors, with deference and respect, please sincerely accept this invitation to join hands with your brethren in the act of sucking my balls.
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