I just got done trying Legion, and sadly its the easiest WoW has ever been. I have less buttons to push than I did even WoD, if you can imagine that. On top of that, WoW is just easy mode in general. You can do the hardest raids in the game, get the best items...but you never lose the items. You will dominate for the rest of the expansion, till the cycle repeats like a rat in a maze. This isn't just a problem with WoW, but every sandbox.
Sadly, Vanguard Saga of heroes died. It was the only MMO that offered a true challenge like EVE did. Well SWG and oldschool MMOs like UO and Asheron's Call and even the first Everquest...but as far as modern/sorta recent MMOs go, Vanguard was a great MMO for grouping and a challenging, but very immersive world.
EVE Online is the last of the challenging MMORPGs that focus on player interaction and grouping. Now personally, I love a challenge, and I love to group. But, for those who like to solo. Granted, it IS possible to play entirely solo. My friend (as a challenge) has lived in a system that barely sees anyone, and no one even goes in the surrounding systems barely. A few people at most will he ever actually run into. He has lived here supposedly for 3 months now, and has a bunch of planet bases setup and random stuff around. No idea where he is, since its on an alt account and he won't even tell me (
) but guess he has made a TON of ISK just crafting/planet bases and has had fun pvping the random people he sometimes encounters.
So back onto my own experience. EVE is a truly challenging MMO. Unlike recent themeparks, you won't get max "levels" (skills) in a week (or less)...it takes time to actually train your character, literal time. It takes skill (player skill) to PvP people...you can even do it in starting frigate (I've done it, very fun, but definitely better with a group lol).
Sadly, MMOs keep getting easier and easier. Challenging MMOs (wildstar, vanguard saga of heroes, SWG) all die off. There isn't any modern MMO I can think of that offers a challenge like EVE does.
But thank goodness for EVE Online
I doubt I'd even play a MMO besides EVE, because all these new fancy shiny MMOs are so easy. And don't ever get me started on GW2, the easiest MMO I ever played lol.
Its just a sad state in the MMO industry where MMOs keep getting dumbed down. Just like schools are in the US. But CCP is an amazing company, and EVE Online (which I have been subbed to for 2 and a half months now) is by far the best and only MMO to play. At least if you want an actual challenge, a REAL MMO experience where you can actually group and do stuff like you are supposed to in an MMO.
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