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CopperfieldCopperfield Member UncommonPosts: 587
Lawl..

is this the new feature of mmorpg.com??

selling users intrests to third parties?

easy money
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  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 1,980
    Lawl..

    is this the new feature of mmorpg.com??

    selling users intrests to third parties?

    easy money
    This is not a new thing. Although 27 does seem to be excessive.

    I haven't given cookies a second though in years. Hell I've forgotten where to look on my computer for them.

    Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.


  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,474
    I usually set the browser to reject third party cookies and ever so often run CCleaner to clean out the excess files and once a year or so run PrivaZer for a deep system clean.

    "We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa      "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."  SR Covey

  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    You running out of HDD space or something?
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,474
    All those programs that do a bad job when you uninstall them leave a lot of junk behind that affects system performance.  I try out a lot of games and programs during a year.

    "We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa      "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."  SR Covey

  • BurntvetBurntvet Member RarePosts: 3,465
    And thus people here use Ghostery, Noscript, Adblock+ and a bunch of other add ons, and then the MMORPG.com people pop up and bitch that the site revenue sucks because people are using all those things.

    If MMORPG.com was reasonable, more people would be too.

    Someone posted a SS around here of MMORPG.com having no fewer than 43 or so widgets going on a main page.

    If MMORPG.com is going to be insane about loading up their pages with that stuff, I feel no guilt about protecting myself from being buried by it.

  • TeccaTecca Member UncommonPosts: 45
    NOTE: MMORPG.COM never sells or shares any of your personal information with other parties. All information is strictly for internal use and all e-mails are only sent from our facilities.
    http://www.mmorpg.com/disclaimers.cfm#privacy

    Also, use your browser settings to reject certain cookies if you want. Opt out of Google Analytics here: https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout/
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    I don't use adblocker or antivirus and my computer is fine.  According to your theories it shouldn't even turn on.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 26,058
    filmoret said:
    I don't use adblocker or antivirus and my computer is fine.  According to your theories it shouldn't even turn on.
    I don't use adblocker but run malware bytes every so often and rarely get anything. Sometimes I'll get some advertising thing and I remove it and I'm good for months on end.

    I tend to wonder where people go and what people do that this stuff is an issue! O.o



  • DarLorkarDarLorkar Member UncommonPosts: 1,082
    filmoret said:
    I don't use adblocker or antivirus and my computer is fine.  According to your theories it shouldn't even turn on.
    Not using even a free anti-virus program is foolish.  Nothing to brag about for sure.


  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 7,341
    DarLorkar said:
    filmoret said:
    I don't use adblocker or antivirus and my computer is fine.  According to your theories it shouldn't even turn on.
    Not using even a free anti-virus program is foolish.  Nothing to brag about for sure.


    Actually Windows Defender works better than any of the free virus software on the market.


  • AllerleirauhAllerleirauh Member UncommonPosts: 485
    edited October 2016
    Tiller said:
    DarLorkar said:
    filmoret said:
    I don't use adblocker or antivirus and my computer is fine.  According to your theories it shouldn't even turn on.
    Not using even a free anti-virus program is foolish.  Nothing to brag about for sure.


    Actually Windows Defender works better than any of the free virus software on the market.
    Actually, no. They improved Windows Defender in Windows 10, but it still doesn't rank as the top free antivirus (but it's better than nothing). http://www.techradar.com/news/software/best-free-antivirus-1321277 Of course, this list still can be debated.
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 18,703
    Different A/Vs have different strengths and weaknesses. I use Defender and the paid version of Malwarebytes. The combo has been very effective.

    Meanwhile I leave you with this...


    take back the hobby: https://www.reddit.com/r/patientgamers/

    traveller, interloper, anomaly
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • goboygogoboygo Member RarePosts: 1,902
    One for every ad queue?
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,474
    Tiller said:
    DarLorkar said:
    filmoret said:
    I don't use adblocker or antivirus and my computer is fine.  According to your theories it shouldn't even turn on.
    Not using even a free anti-virus program is foolish.  Nothing to brag about for sure.


    Actually Windows Defender works better than any of the free virus software on the market.
    Actually, no. They improved Windows Defender in Windows 10, but it still doesn't rank as the top free antivirus (but it's better than nothing). http://www.techradar.com/news/software/best-free-antivirus-1321277 Of course, this list still can be debated.
    They have a good list.  I remember when ZoneAlarm was number one.

    "We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa      "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."  SR Covey

  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    Tiller said:
    DarLorkar said:
    filmoret said:
    I don't use adblocker or antivirus and my computer is fine.  According to your theories it shouldn't even turn on.
    Not using even a free anti-virus program is foolish.  Nothing to brag about for sure.


    Actually Windows Defender works better than any of the free virus software on the market.
    Actually, no. They improved Windows Defender in Windows 10, but it still doesn't rank as the top free antivirus (but it's better than nothing). http://www.techradar.com/news/software/best-free-antivirus-1321277 Of course, this list still can be debated.
    They have a good list.  I remember when ZoneAlarm was number one.
    I would agree about needing antivirus if I ever actually got a virus.  20+ years of surfing the internet and only had like 2 issues and that was my own fault.  So no the antivirus software gets no money from me and no access to my computer.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • jonp200jonp200 Member UncommonPosts: 417
    Not using anti-virus software is foolish and no you don't have to pay for it.  Personally, I do pay for mine and get excellent protection but that's just my personal preference.  There are a variety of free solutions that work fine; AVG, Avast, the built in Microsoft client... I also use Web of Trust as a plugin in to screen sites I might want to visit and  run Malwarebytes occasionally as well.

    I strongly recommend password protection; I use Lastpass and additional protection if you are banking online or doing anything that involves that level of sensitive information.  Trusteer is worth installing for that.

    Most people can live with Window's firewall but I wouldn't recommend it per se.  There are better solutions out there.

    Certainly, you can make the case that you can limit your risk by not opening e-mail attachments, surfing questionable sites and not ever using open access with any PC or device that syncs to your PC but you still aren't completely secure and that's where the virus software might save the day...Use a router?  Access the Internet at all?  You do that using a VPN right?  No?  You're at risk..

    Here's another thought.  Use 2-factor authentication with a game account?  You should.  Using an authenticater or phone/e-mail makes a lot of sense.

    I've been breached twice in the last 10 years.  Neither time was my fault despite all my precautions.  Catch this.. Both times it was Sony.  Yes, I no longer do business with Sony, as both times it was a nightmare to fix the problem with the hacker changing the e-mail associated with my account and essentially locking me out.  I would get an e-mail detailing a purchase.. Then another indicating the e-mail address associated with my account had been changed.. Usually Saturday night, as Sony only offers chat assistance on Sunday.  Sony just added 2 factor authentication which would have prevented both of these events; finally.  Too little too late for me after being treated so poorly.

    My point is a virus can be a real hassle, a trojan or other malware can  be even more problematic.  Ransomware or actually having your personal information compromised after someone installs a keylogger on your machine is really going to hurt.  Is that worth rolling the dice?  No way.

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    Playing ESO on my X-Box


  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,474
    filmoret said:
    Tiller said:
    DarLorkar said:
    filmoret said:
    I don't use adblocker or antivirus and my computer is fine.  According to your theories it shouldn't even turn on.
    Not using even a free anti-virus program is foolish.  Nothing to brag about for sure.


    Actually Windows Defender works better than any of the free virus software on the market.
    Actually, no. They improved Windows Defender in Windows 10, but it still doesn't rank as the top free antivirus (but it's better than nothing). http://www.techradar.com/news/software/best-free-antivirus-1321277 Of course, this list still can be debated.
    They have a good list.  I remember when ZoneAlarm was number one.
    I would agree about needing antivirus if I ever actually got a virus.  20+ years of surfing the internet and only had like 2 issues and that was my own fault.  So no the antivirus software gets no money from me and no access to my computer.
    I went a year without any antivirus program once.  If you stick to a routine you usually won't run into any problems.  My security is because I sometimes go to some nasty neighborhoods on the web to research stuff and get that, you have been infected by spyware notification that tries to lock up your system unless you pay them, or launches scripts to install rootkits and what not.  But I usually run browsers in a virtual shell that can kill everything in it.

    "We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa      "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."  SR Covey

  • holdenhamletholdenhamlet Member EpicPosts: 3,756
    "I've been breached twice in the last 10 years.  Neither time was my fault despite all my precautions."

    So what's the point of all your precautions?

    I used to use anti-virus, but I still got viruses.  They didn't actually DO anything, so I stopped using them.  I haven't had a virus for years, AND I don't have to be annoyed with my anti-virus pretending to do stuff with annoying pop-ups and slogging down my system.
  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,383
    "I've been breached twice in the last 10 years.  Neither time was my fault despite all my precautions."

    So what's the point of all your precautions?

    I used to use anti-virus, but I still got viruses.  They didn't actually DO anything, so I stopped using them.  I haven't had a virus for years, AND I don't have to be annoyed with my anti-virus pretending to do stuff with annoying pop-ups and slogging down my system.
    Same here. I used to use anti-virus programs and still had problems. I had one lock my system and couldn't get in it.  I dont bother with anything now.  I havent had a problem in ten years.  Of course, you are always at risk online but I'm not convinced these anti-virus programs means Im any safer.  Feels a bit like the duck and cover from a previous generation.
  • XodicXodic Member RarePosts: 925
    edited October 2016
    filmoret said:
    I would agree about needing antivirus if I ever actually got a virus.  20+ years of surfing the internet and only had like 2 issues and that was my own fault.  So no the antivirus software gets no money from me and no access to my computer.
    Windows' default services have come a long way in just the last few years, but I can guarantee you have been infected more than twice in 20 years of not running any prevention software.

    Viruses are almost always executable files, such as an email attachment or downloaded software. As long as you have EAC turned on, for the most part you shouldn't have a problem with something trying to install without your permission.

    The largest risk for web browsing are exploit kits. They will download and install on their own, and they're mostly encrypted - so unless you have anti-malware that specifically mitigates exploits, you'll never know about it even after running a scan. The most common risk for browsers have always been and still are spyware and adware related. Even these 'cookies', seeing as they're persistent cookies, are collecting and sending your search and site visit data the entire time you're online.

    If you've ever gotten an ad about meeting local singles, it's because you have porn cookies stored in your browser.
  • zasdzasd Member UncommonPosts: 44
    flizzer said:
    "I've been breached twice in the last 10 years.  Neither time was my fault despite all my precautions."

    So what's the point of all your precautions?

    I used to use anti-virus, but I still got viruses.  They didn't actually DO anything, so I stopped using them.  I haven't had a virus for years, AND I don't have to be annoyed with my anti-virus pretending to do stuff with annoying pop-ups and slogging down my system.
    Same here. I used to use anti-virus programs and still had problems. I had one lock my system and couldn't get in it.  I dont bother with anything now.  I havent had a problem in ten years.  Of course, you are always at risk online but I'm not convinced these anti-virus programs means Im any safer.  Feels a bit like the duck and cover from a previous generation.
    Yea I used to use Anti-Virus also, got 3-4 Viruses... I do not use Anti Virus anymore and I Have been Virus free for 3 years now...

    Anti-virus software gives people false hope... If I know I am going to a bad part of the web I do it in a VM... you would not believe the amount of people whose computers I fix that have viruses and Anti-virus...  


    Besides if I ever have a problem, I cloned an updated copy of my drive and can be back up and running in less than 10 minutes, like it never even happened... I keep all my storage/data on my Linux based Home Server so I won't even miss a beat...
  • XodicXodic Member RarePosts: 925
    zasd said:
     Yea I used to use Anti-Virus also, got 3-4 Viruses... I do not use Anti Virus anymore and I Have been Virus free for 3 years now...

    It reads as if, because you don't have a detection system to tell you when you're infected, then you're not infected. As in, you're as healthy as a horse because a doctor as never said your health was bad, but you've never actually been to a doctor.

    I don't believe it was intentional, but I have to admit I got a good laugh out of the way you structured that sentence.
  • PhryPhry Member EpicPosts: 10,405
    Xodic said:
    zasd said:
     Yea I used to use Anti-Virus also, got 3-4 Viruses... I do not use Anti Virus anymore and I Have been Virus free for 3 years now...

    It reads as if, because you don't have a detection system to tell you when you're infected, then you're not infected. As in, you're as healthy as a horse because a doctor as never said your health was bad, but you've never actually been to a doctor.

    I don't believe it was intentional, but I have to admit I got a good laugh out of the way you structured that sentence.
    It just means they don't know if they have an infected PC or not, just because they haven't suffered from a ransomware attack doesn't mean that there aren't any number of trojans etc. sitting there patiently or not so patiently adding their PC's to a bottnet, indeed, without antivirus to detect those things how would they even know they are there? just because your PC isn't running slowly at times doesn't mean its okay, botnets are becoming more sophisticated, and are more than happy to be doing things with your PC when your not using it yourself, surprising perhaps or not perhaps, how many Mac's are in botnets without realising, and its not like there are that many Mac's out there :p
    Short answer, just because you think your virus free, doesn't mean you are.
  • holdenhamletholdenhamlet Member EpicPosts: 3,756
    edited October 2016
    Xodic said:
    zasd said:
     Yea I used to use Anti-Virus also, got 3-4 Viruses... I do not use Anti Virus anymore and I Have been Virus free for 3 years now...

    It reads as if, because you don't have a detection system to tell you when you're infected, then you're not infected. As in, you're as healthy as a horse because a doctor as never said your health was bad, but you've never actually been to a doctor.

    I don't believe it was intentional, but I have to admit I got a good laugh out of the way you structured that sentence.
    It's weird but it's true for me too.  The only time I got viruses was back when I was using anti-virus programs.

    There's a common scam where a trojan infects your computer and directs you to an an "anti-virus program" to get rid of the virus.  My parents actually fell for that one, unfortunately, and paid good money for it.  :(  And they were diligently running their McAfee anti-virus at the time they got it, too.

    I wouldn't be surprised if there was shady stuff going on with many so-called trusted anti-virus programs.

    Along the lines of what flizzer said, it reminds me of people selling bomb shelters in the 50s.  It gives you a sense of security but it doesn't really do anything.  Some are definitely more shady than that, too.

    Don't confuse me not using an anti-virus with believing I'm safe.  It's just that I don't trust this or that program to keep me safe.  I try to not do stupid stuff on the internet- I think that more than anything has resulted in me not getting viruses anymore.

    I think there is credence to the idea that running an anti-virus or a suite of protection programs/tweeks gives you a false sense of security, or at least it did for me.

    All that being said, if I were to use an anti-virus, it would be windows defender.  That was the only one that didn't constantly annoy me trying to prove that it's doing something productive and worth my money (because it's free), and it actually amazingly did seem to do one or two things worthwhile.
  • XodicXodic Member RarePosts: 925
    edited October 2016
    There's a common scam where a trojan infects your computer and directs you to an an "anti-virus program" to get rid of the virus.  My parents actually fell for that one, unfortunately, and paid good money for it.  :(  And they were diligently running their McAfee anti-virus at the time they got it, too.


     
    In this case, it sounds like the anti virus program was the trojan. A trojan isn't actually a virus, it's a delivery method or gateway for a virus or worm that usually presents itself as something it's not in order to get people to deliberately install it. Your parents most likely didn't have a virus, until they themselves were tricked into installing it.

    But my point was that; if someone didn't have any means of detecting malware then how could they claim they don't have any?
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