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A decade.

MalcanisMalcanis Member UncommonPosts: 3,297
Today is my 10th EVE birthday. I have been within this game for just a few less than 3653 days (there were a few days when I let the sub lapse while I was on holiday and such). Much has changed within the game - I have changed a lot since them - but more has stayed the same.

New ships, new mechanics, and much more importantly, new social models and organisational methods. There were no public NPSI fleets in 2006, there were no large, well-run, well funded "newbro" alliances like Brave Newbies, Horde, Karmafleet back then. Not only was the game dominated by veteran organisations perhaps even more then than now, but there was basically no place for the new player in most activities. The tiercide project was years away, and there was very little that a new player could contribute to a "serious" fleet other than fly a rifter or a blackbird, and quickly die as soon as they were noticed.

T2 items were produced soley from BPOs, and were unthinkably expensive. At a time when you could buy a 30-day GTC for ~90m ISK, a Cerberus cost ~300m ISK. Imagine a HAC costing the price of 3 PLEX today - that will give you an idea of how out of reach such ships seemed then. And that was just the hull; the T2 launchers would be 20m each, and so on.

Since then we've seen the EVE economy and society evolve almost beyond recognition. Many of the names are the same, but most of the methods are different. The level of organisation and infrastructure that even a mediocre 0.0 group is routinely expected to have now was simply unthinkable back then. Likewise the abundance of, well, everything is overwhelming. Everyone in the game expects to be able to buy pretty much anything they want in whatever quantity they need for a fairly stable- and low- price.

I think it would be pretty foolish to say whether all these changes have made EVE "better" or "worse". One of the few tings we can say with certainty is that EVE absolutely needs continuous change, not necessarily in every factor all the time, but there should always be significant changes occuring in some significant aspect of the game. The greatest threat EVE could face would be being sold to EA; after that, stagnation and predictability. Every major change - and there have been too many in 10 years for me to even start to try and list them - has winners and losers. And every time, the winers have crowed and the losers have cried.

The original Forum was the the seat of Athenian democracy, and I feel pretty safe in saying that the debates there were probably not all that different in type and form to the debates seen right here; self-interest, ideology, fear, and pride, generally mixed in with incohate patriotism and seasoned with as much rhetoric as the recipe would stand.

Yet even though it was distilled from such unpromising ingredients, the democracy of Athens was something new to the world, and it offered the inhabitants world something it may have never seen before: the idea that there could be a society where more than just will of the tyrant, the monarch could affect the course of events.

EVE still makes that offer to the gaming world. EVE might be violent, unforgiving, hypocritical, oppressive, obsessed with money, selfish, treachrous and cruel. Athens was all of those things when the Forum was at the height of its power. EVE, like Athens, also writes incredible stories, and offers unique glories to those she calls her own. Who would live in any other city? Why would one live any other way? Where else would one nevigate but to such a port? What other game sustains such pride?

Give me liberty or give me lasers

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  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,395
    "What other game sustains such pride" of swallowing it's own pride and finally banning third party multi account software after years and waves and waves of accounts becoming inactive because they got harassed to oblivion on official forums after complains about multi account industrial/mining/pve corps ran by one fat jack using isbox? Creating resources injection so it can keep feeding from those null static players? Recreating Concord behavior so bored alts could exploit trial accounts? Forgetting how your own game works and making live action clips of CCP's piloting ships (not drones) wearing helmets sitting on a chair inside a cockpit? Promoting Poker Tournament for a couple of rich fatasses instead of focusing on game because the game itself is stale? Shoving Razer headsets and m&k on streams because subscription is not enough to close the wormhole? Canceling the most promising content update because the elite was against being vulnerable to counter measures against their exploits?
     
    What other game would be capable of doing that?
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  • MalcanisMalcanis Member UncommonPosts: 3,297
    Congratulations on being angry that CCP are a commercial company.

    Give me liberty or give me lasers

  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,395
    Malcanis said:
    Congratulations on being angry that CCP are a commercial company.
    Yeah. They are really successful in their choices and all of them lead the game to success.
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  • PhaserlightPhaserlight Member EpicPosts: 2,889
    Grats on your decade.

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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member EpicPosts: 7,000
    I cant imagine how much money some players have spent on Eve...I know some out there has 5-6 accounts and pay a monthly on all of them...To me thats just insane....im not sure Id even play Eve for free more or less pay for 5 accounts.
  • PhaserlightPhaserlight Member EpicPosts: 2,889
    I cant imagine how much money some players have spent on Eve...I know some out there has 5-6 accounts and pay a monthly on all of them...To me thats just insane....im not sure Id even play Eve for free more or less pay for 5 accounts.
    Insane is prospecting $15k+ on a videogame that isn't even out yet.  At least, that's my perspective.

    Thousands on an experience that is on the market and has provided entertainment for 10+ years is totally reasonable.  I've spent close to a thousand on my game of choice, which has kept me entertained for 13 years.  Others have spent more on other hobbies.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 33,617
    I've been playing on and off since 2007 but still have over 7 years paid subs.

    What the OP says is very true.  Despite the many changes to both EVE itself and the meta game around it, it still delivers the type of virtual world that I enjoy inhabiting.

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  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 11,687
    edited September 2016
    I cant imagine how much money some players have spent on Eve...I know some out there has 5-6 accounts and pay a monthly on all of them...To me thats just insane....im not sure Id even play Eve for free more or less pay for 5 accounts.
    It is very likely they spend 0$ money for all their accounts.

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  • MalcanisMalcanis Member UncommonPosts: 3,297
    I cant imagine how much money some players have spent on Eve...I know some out there has 5-6 accounts and pay a monthly on all of them...To me thats just insane....im not sure Id even play Eve for free more or less pay for 5 accounts.
    I have two accounts which, with annual subscriptions, cost me £89.99 per year each.

    Or to put it another way, I spend £3.46 per week on EVE.


    Two years ago, CCP paid for my return flight to Reykjavik, a driver to take me too and from the airport and 4 nights in a nice hotel, and gave me a free fanfest pass as well.

    I do not feel that EVE is an expensive hobby at all.

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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 11,630
    For a sub game £90 pound a year is fine, but I would never have more than one account. What is great about EVE is that you can do MMO's a different way, that shows us how diverse the MMO genre could be.

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