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Sandi Gardiner Stops Social Media Over Targeted Harrassment

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited August 2016 in News & Features Discussion

imageSandi Gardiner Stops Social Media Over Targeted Harrassment

Star Citizen News - Star Citizen VP of Marketing Sandi Gardiner is "taking a break from social media" over what she calls "ongoing online targeted harassment". No further information is given, but many in a Reddit thread of support for Ms Gardiner attribute the issue to a certain vitriolic element that has been loudly critical of Star Citizen, Chris Roberts, the game's development, and ostensible mismanagement of finances earned through KickStarter and later fundraising campaigns.

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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    This just infuriates me. People can claim all day long that this has nothing to do with gender but that is categorically untrue. It has everything to do with the fact that she's a female. Stir in a helping of being a visible personality, Chris Roberts' wife and a member of the Star Citizen team and it's like the perfect storm for haters.

    Ugh. I hope they figure out who it is and sue the ever-living crap out of them.


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  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,848
    edited August 2016
    I don't think it's because she is a female... some people have a beef with Star Citizen overall and she seems to be easiest target to go against. Everything she does or says will be used against her, both Star Citizen related up to her personal life. We can't talk of harassment of her without mentioning Derek Smart, allow me to paste a resume made of what goes from him alone against Sandi Gardiner....

    You be the judge, isn't this harassment?

    500+ mentions of her on twtitter

    That's just Twitter.

    Why all the attacks? He says

    • Because he was banned.
    • He heard stuff about the way she treats employees (no proof given)
    • He doesn't think she's qualified.

    Are this perfectly reasonable reasons to post pictures of their children, their resumes, their marital status, videos, e-mails, scantily clad pictures, their childrens' names,etc?


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  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,216
    I .. think she needs to learn how to use internet, especially forum websites and alike! It is the internet after all and she is a VP of marketing in a "weird" company. She definitely needs to also learn how to handle her emotions. I mean, it's not that hard. Read a few line from a comment , don't like what you've just read? Good! Ignore the whole comment and move along !

    @SBFord ! Really ? Sue them? If I would have invested/gave them money for a cause which was/is SC and at some point the whole idea collapse ( from my point of view ) , I would do the following :

    *1) /ignore /refund
    *2) /TROLL /ignore /refund
    *3) /Keepmymoney & /Iwilltrollyoueverytimeirememberaboutyou ... & ask /refund later ! :)

    * The above will depend on my mood

    PS : A woman , saying the women are harassed more often then men because ... /female ?
    Well , isn't that happens in real life too ? No hard feelings - Not derail - No theory conspiracy - Please - It's a reality !

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  • RedempRedemp Member UncommonPosts: 1,136
     I've only sporadically followed all the goings on with Star Citizen, which obviously includes all the "drama". From someone who has only been following the highlights, I don't think it has much to do with her being a woman and more everything to do with her being in a leadership position in CIG. Obviously DS has an axe to grind and I can't stand the man, but the more I read the latest snippets from both sides, the worse everyone involved appears. I'm a big fan of company personalities staying out of the social media limelight, it always seems to end in harassment or embarrassment.

  • WalkinGlennWalkinGlenn Member RarePosts: 451
    @MaxBacon your post is a compilation of information collected over the course of this entire SC mess. You have an entire copy and paste of Hyperbole right there buddy making it look like that all just came out at one time.

    More like drama queen BS. Sure, I'll bet there are creeps that are harassing her about the porn movies she did, so what, ban them from her twitter feed. People today are so thin skinned it makes me so sick I want to ralph.

    How about she come clean about lying about her degrees and why her marriage between her and Roberts was being covered up for so long.
  • WalkinGlennWalkinGlenn Member RarePosts: 451
    edited August 2016
    SBFord said:
    This just infuriates me. People can claim all day long that this has nothing to do with gender but that is categorically untrue. It has everything to do with the fact that she's a female. Stir in a helping of being a visible personality, Chris Roberts' wife and a member of the Star Citizen team and it's like the perfect storm for haters.

    Ugh. I hope they figure out who it is and sue the ever-living crap out of them.

    Where do you pull gender out of all of this exactly?

    Edit

    Ok, you have a point. Lets be honest here though. She did freaking tickle porn. TICKLE PORN!!! LOL

  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    I'm also of the mind that sex has nothing to do with it. I also believe that by her declaration she is giving the culprits a sense of victory which will just encourage more harassment to her or other parties.

    Sad to say but it's like being a child in school: Never let the other children see you cry or they will harass you all the more.  

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  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,848
    edited August 2016
    @MaxBacon your post is a compilation of information collected over the course of this entire SC mess. You have an entire copy and paste of Hyperbole right there buddy making it look like that all just came out at one time.
    Oh so that it makes it okay?

    She come clean about what? Her personal life? She could have been a freaking world-wide porn star that you neither ANYBODY has anything to do with it.

    So you support this behavior? Or are you defending who promotes this behavior against hear because you also do the same?
  • MagikarpsGhostMagikarpsGhost Member RarePosts: 689
    SBFord said:
    This just infuriates me. People can claim all day long that this has nothing to do with gender but that is categorically untrue. It has everything to do with the fact that she's a female. Stir in a helping of being a visible personality, Chris Roberts' wife and a member of the Star Citizen team and it's like the perfect storm for haters.

    Ugh. I hope they figure out who it is and sue the ever-living crap out of them.
    I was listening to the dames of destiny stream back in the day when destiny was played and i can tell you, some of the comments made to them was horrid. From sexual jokes to sheer lack of respect it was a sad day. Sadly it was the last stream i attended of theirs due to this. I think gamers need to take a step back and remember gender means nothing when it comes to doing what we love such as games. We are here to have fun and enjoy these works of art (or failures) and we should not treat anyone differently due to gender. 

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  • WalkinGlennWalkinGlenn Member RarePosts: 451
    edited August 2016
    MaxBacon said:
    @MaxBacon your post is a compilation of information collected over the course of this entire SC mess. You have an entire copy and paste of Hyperbole right there buddy making it look like that all just came out at one time.
    Oh so that it makes it okay?

    She clean come clean about what? Her personal life? She could have been a freaking world-wide porn star that you neither ANYBODY has anything to do with it.

    So you support this behavior? Or are you defending who promotes this behavior against hear because you also do the same?
    At the time thoes things came to light and were brought up they were valid and interesting discoveries for a person of her position

    Also, for the record, I think you might be Ben Lesnick.
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,848
    At the time thoes things came to light and were brought up they were valid and interesting discoveries for a person of her position

    Also, for the record, I think you might be Ben Lesnick.
    Nice conspiracy theory bro. And nice to see that you endorse this kind of behavior, if not practice it yourself.

    Sad.

  • ceratop001ceratop001 Member RarePosts: 1,594
    SBFord said:
    This just infuriates me. People can claim all day long that this has nothing to do with gender but that is categorically untrue. It has everything to do with the fact that she's a female. Stir in a helping of being a visible personality, Chris Roberts' wife and a member of the Star Citizen team and it's like the perfect storm for haters.

    Ugh. I hope they figure out who it is and sue the ever-living crap out of them.
    Totally agree this is harassment by one or more individuals. Needs to be stopped.
     
  • WalkinGlennWalkinGlenn Member RarePosts: 451
    MaxBacon said:
    At the time thoes things came to light and were brought up they were valid and interesting discoveries for a person of her position

    Also, for the record, I think you might be Ben Lesnick.
    Nice conspiracy theory bro. And nice to see that you endorse this kind of behavior, if not practice it yourself.

    Sad.

    Guilt trip reverse psychology failed.

    I endorse no such thing. However, I pity the emotionally squishy, safe space pansies who crumple into a pile every time a baddie says mean things to them. Every generation, parent fail their children worse then the previous one. That my friend it what's sad.


  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    edited August 2016
    WalkinGlenn said:
    Ok, you have a point. Lets be honest here though. She did freaking tickle porn. TICKLE PORN!!! LOL
    Did she...?
  • spankybusspankybus Member UncommonPosts: 1,367

    IceAge said:

    I .. think she needs to learn how to use internet, especially forum websites and alike! It is the internet after all and she is a VP of marketing in a "weird" company. She definitely needs to also learn how to handle her emotions. I mean, it's not that hard. Read a few line from a comment , don't like what you've just read? Good! Ignore the whole comment and move along !



    @SBFord ! Really ? Sue them? If I would have invested/gave them money for a cause which was/is SC and at some point the whole idea collapse ( from my point of view ) , I would do the following :



    *1) /ignore /refund

    *2) /TROLL /ignore /refund

    *3) /Keepmymoney & /Iwilltrollyoueverytimeirememberaboutyou ... & ask /refund later ! :)



    * The above will depend on my mood



    PS : A woman , saying the women are harassed more often then men because ... /female ?

    Well , isn't that happens in real life too ? No hard feelings - Not derail - No theory conspiracy - Please - It's a reality !




    Comments from a random dude with no real name...riiiight

    Harassment is just that. There is no justification for the shit she seems to be dealing with on her social media outlets listed under her real name.'

    Internet anonymity is the worst thing that has happened to the civility of the human race.

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  • WalkinGlennWalkinGlenn Member RarePosts: 451
    Nyctelios said:
    @WalkinGlenn ban the from her tweet feed? You sure don't know how marketing works, huh, kiddo?
    I don't have a twitter account nor have I even seen her twitter. I have facebook, that I only use strictly for family and closest friends, not every single Tom, Dick and Harry I run into every day or at work like every other schlub out there.
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,848
    WalkinGlenn said:
    Guilt trip reverse psychology failed.

    I endorse no such thing. However, I pity the emotionally squishy, safe space pansies who crumple into a pile every time a baddie says mean things to them. Every generation, parent fail their children worse then the previous one. That my friend it what's sad.

    Sad is we accepting this kind of behavior that keeps getting worse. Sad is that we reached a point that when a developer delays their game receives death threats (No Man's Sky). 

    One thing is attack the person his work, another completely different thing is stalking the person's personal life and even their family, attempting to setup a public humiliation show.
  • VaselVasel Member UncommonPosts: 226
    I have inside knowledge from friends in Austin about her. I wont say more that shes not the nice person we see on ATV. No person deserves harassment.
  • WalkinGlennWalkinGlenn Member RarePosts: 451
    edited August 2016
    Gdemami said:
    WalkinGlenn said:
    Ok, you have a point. Lets be honest here though. She did freaking tickle porn. TICKLE PORN!!! LOL
    Did she...?
    Yeah! lol. I watched them both. It's nothing really/ She was probably in here 20's and its very tame. No nudity. I read somewhere  in Reddit people were saying "Tickle Tickle" in here twitter feed.

    Really..... REALLY!!!! Did she really run away from Twitter because of Tickle Tickle?
  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    I gotta go with @MaxBacon on this one. I doubt it has anything to do with her gender, and more with who she's married to and the company she works for. Star Citizen is a game that's got some very loyal fans, but that also inspires some very fervent haters. Unfortunately for the poor woman, she's an easy target.

    Besides, it's not like male devs haven't been targeted on social media in the past. And have even left the game industry as a result of the harassment. I imagine it also makes Chris Roberts unhappy to see his wife treated like this, so they're hurting him by proxy.

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  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    WalkinGlenn said:
    Yeah! lol. I watched them both. It's nothing really/ She was probably in here 20's and its very tame. No nudity. I read somewhere  in Reddit people were saying "Tickle Tickle" in here twitter feed.

    Really..... REALLY!!!! Did she really run away from Twitter because of Tickle Tickle?
    I guess you do not understand the principles of defamation then..
  • WalkinGlennWalkinGlenn Member RarePosts: 451
    Gdemami said:
    WalkinGlenn said:
    Yeah! lol. I watched them both. It's nothing really/ She was probably in here 20's and its very tame. No nudity. I read somewhere  in Reddit people were saying "Tickle Tickle" in here twitter feed.

    Really..... REALLY!!!! Did she really run away from Twitter because of Tickle Tickle?
    I guess you do not understand the principles of defamation then..
    Dude wtf are you even talking about. Go away
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,848
    edited August 2016
    I gotta go with @MaxBacon on this one. I doubt it has anything to do with her gender, and more with who she's married to and the company she works for. Star Citizen is a game that's got some very loyal fans, but that also inspires some very fervent haters. Unfortunately for the poor woman, she's an easy target.

    Besides, it's not like male devs haven't been targeted on social media in the past. And have even left the game industry as a result of the harassment. I imagine it also makes Chris Roberts unhappy to see his wife treated like this, so they're hurting him by proxy.
    Yeah 100% agree with you on the last part.

    The objective was always hit Chris Roberts but they couldn't, so they found a weak spot on his wife. It makes sense, hurting CR's family does hurt CR, so that may very well be the intention.

    Unfortunately i'm afraid this will just incentivate more attacks upon her, to a point she might end up resigning. I wouldn't blame her, at least she could get her life back without worry about anything she does or says being used against her. Nobody deserves harassment, specially when it is done by using you as a mean to an end.
  • HeretiqueHeretique Member RarePosts: 1,536
    SBFord said:
    This just infuriates me. People can claim all day long that this has nothing to do with gender but that is categorically untrue. It has everything to do with the fact that she's a female. Stir in a helping of being a visible personality, Chris Roberts' wife and a member of the Star Citizen team and it's like the perfect storm for haters.

    Ugh. I hope they figure out who it is and sue the ever-living crap out of them.
    Other than her working for Star Citizen and being part of the head of social media, she's a target to the very very loud 'haters' that SC has gathered. But to say "it has everything to do with the fact that she's a female" is not something I think is true.
  • Axllow18Axllow18 Member UncommonPosts: 400
    It's always a curious case when the righteous pearl clutchers who talk of CIG's immoral business practices can not hold those same lofty goals of morality for people actively taking their personal issues with said company out on a person just pulling a paycheck.

    I love you melodramatic motherfuckers lol.
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