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  • SinkaelSinkael Member UncommonPosts: 68
    edited August 2016
    My adblocker shows 26 ads blocked on the main page and that doesn't count the handful of ads that make it past the ad blocker.  Just to see I turned my adblocker off and 20-30% of the page real estate was covered in ads, that is the problem for me, I don't want to see 2 separate video/animated ads (one with sound) and a bunch of static image ads.  MMORPG seems to take the approach that if they just keep adding more ads people will stop blocking them, the more you force on people the more that will block.

    Offer me a site that isn't advertising 20 different games around the main content with a clean look and non-intrusive and non-video/animated ads and I will unblock it like I do on a number of other web-site.  Hell just below this post box is three ads, one for Neverwinter, one for Touch and one for Skyforge. 

    Take a look at Lifehacker.com, that site is superclean and easy on the eyes and even with ads on they aren't that bad and so I don't feel a need to turn on my adblocker for them.
  • observerobserver Member RarePosts: 3,685
    filmoret said:
    LOL at the stubborn responses.  OMG they are spying on us.  They are trying to get us.  They are after me...  My computer is compromised.  OH noes....
    You shouldn't be so dismissive of other people's concerns.  It makes you look like a condescending jackass.  People have every right to be concerned about their privacy being invaded.  As someone mentioned above, there's also beacons, trackers, and even malware, in some of these ads.  That whole industry has proven that it's not responsible when it come's to people's privacy.
  • Puckerup1974Puckerup1974 Member CommonPosts: 7
    Even with adblock on this entire site is one big ad. I have war thunder, animal jam and league of angels 2 on the bottom...neverwinter, Star trek online, and 2x touch on the right side. top entire page is riders of icarus, then there's that list of a dozen games on the right side that are all sponsored links "download now". Someone else mentioned it, but mmorpg.com just went pay to win. Pay with your clicks or pay cash. Seems to be the current model. Let's show them what a reduction in traffic looks like.
  • frostymugfrostymug Member RarePosts: 627
    Even with adblock on this entire site is one big ad. I have war thunder, animal jam and league of angels 2 on the bottom...neverwinter, Star trek online, and 2x touch on the right side. top entire page is riders of icarus, then there's that list of a dozen games on the right side that are all sponsored links "download now". Someone else mentioned it, but mmorpg.com just went pay to win. Pay with your clicks or pay cash. Seems to be the current model. Let's show them what a reduction in traffic looks like.
    I got Legaue of Angels 2 at the bottom.

    Quality control...
  • RollermintRollermint Member UncommonPosts: 47
    I've adblocker and on this site alone i see 8 embedded ads.

    That is enough.

    No, my adblocker is staying up. Friendly warning, this is a shitty move and you may actually even lose more than you gain by this move. I understand the motive but execution is poorly thought off and should be less intrusive.
  • QuarterStackQuarterStack Member RarePosts: 420
    edited August 2016
    I see no fewer than 11 ads on the page even *with* ad-blocker running. Exactly how much advertising do you think we should be required to deal with?

    Edit: Saw the bit about the optional $2.99 to disable all ads, and voted 'Yes'. If it truly means *literally* no ads, no tracking scripts, etc. etc...  But a clean experience where it's site content and only that, then Yes. Absolutely. Take my money.

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  • QuarterStackQuarterStack Member RarePosts: 420
    edited August 2016
    http://massivelyop.net/ is pretty good too.

    Yep, notice how they politely ask you, on the side of the page, to whitelist them on your adblocker, and don't shove it in your face for 10 seconds?

    I understand the need for revenue, but there's better ways of going about it than shoving nag-ware in someone's face for 10 seconds. That's just annoying and more likely to make some folks go elsewhere, counting myself among them.

  • QuarterStackQuarterStack Member RarePosts: 420
    Distopia said:
    TemperHS said:
    Attempting to annoy users to the point that they disable the ad-blocker is kind of a shitty thing to do, no?

    With the level of traffic on this site there is plenty of ad revenue to be made, and I'm sure that the site is doing quite well in that regard. Trying to get those of us using an ad-blocker to remove it by adding a mild annoyance that serves no purpose other than to annoy, seems ridiculous.
    I think it's crappier to use a site daily for free, while being unwilling to see a small add on the side of the page. But that's just me. 
    Except there are ads on the page, even with an ad blocker active. I counted 11 just now.
  • paulythebpaulytheb Member UncommonPosts: 363
    Just for one more point of view, beyond the security concerns, which I share.

    I use Ad Blocker because I have a data limit. I simply can't afford to load all these ads on every website.
    They talk, they play movies, and all that data has to load.

    My data use went down more than 30% after I installed Ad Block. I won't be removing it either.

    No one plays MMO's anymore anyways.

    ( Note to self-Don't say anything bad about Drizzt.)

    An acerbic sense of humor is NOT allowed here.

  • BartrumBartrum Member UncommonPosts: 7
    Think I'll pass on checking this site daily.   My Ad-blocker stays.   Bad form MMORPG.



  • MoiraeMoirae Member RarePosts: 3,318
    edited August 2016
    You do realize you are pushing people away right? I do NOT want to be bombarded with ads. So the ad blocker stays on and if I start to feel harassed, I will simply leave the site. You give away very little anymore for any of the games, even free game keys and computer parts, you have started talking about games that have nothing to do with even MMO's, your articles are obviously paid by the game companies to promote them. You are no longer MMORPG and you should change your name. If you want to stay in business, I suggest you stop going to microsoft route and trying to push people to spend money. Whatever happened to incentifying people to your product? 


    Let me remind you that you are but one of many sites. You need us to stay in business, we don't need you. I'm tired of being nickle and dimed to death and harassed. Everyone is pushing the consumer to spend more and more money while you know that we don't have it. enough already. 


    Ten years I've been with this site and this is the kind of respect you give people.
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,683
    I unblocked it - support the sites you like by unblocking.

    So simple.
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,182
    edited August 2016
    observer said:
    filmoret said:
    LOL at the stubborn responses.  OMG they are spying on us.  They are trying to get us.  They are after me...  My computer is compromised.  OH noes....
    You shouldn't be so dismissive of other people's concerns.  It makes you look like a condescending jackass.  People have every right to be concerned about their privacy being invaded.  As someone mentioned above, there's also beacons, trackers, and even malware, in some of these ads.  That whole industry has proven that it's not responsible when it come's to people's privacy.
    No matter how you slice it, you either deal with adds or deal with the pop up, which the latter takes what? two seconds to remedy? If you want it free, take it how it's served.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • RollermintRollermint Member UncommonPosts: 47
    Distopia said:
    observer said:
    filmoret said:
    LOL at the stubborn responses.  OMG they are spying on us.  They are trying to get us.  They are after me...  My computer is compromised.  OH noes....
    You shouldn't be so dismissive of other people's concerns.  It makes you look like a condescending jackass.  People have every right to be concerned about their privacy being invaded.  As someone mentioned above, there's also beacons, trackers, and even malware, in some of these ads.  That whole industry has proven that it's not responsible when it come's to people's privacy.
    No matter how you slice it, you either deal with adds or deal with the pop up, which the latter takes what? two seconds to remedy? If you want it free, take it how it's served.
    Or people simply leave and take their traffic to a more respectful website. As many including myself already mentioned, even with adblocks we get 8-11 adds on the website alone. Now they want us to let our guard down. Through very disrespectful means.

    Nope. Its staying up.
  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,768
    Distopia said:
    observer said:
    filmoret said:
    LOL at the stubborn responses.  OMG they are spying on us.  They are trying to get us.  They are after me...  My computer is compromised.  OH noes....
    You shouldn't be so dismissive of other people's concerns.  It makes you look like a condescending jackass.  People have every right to be concerned about their privacy being invaded.  As someone mentioned above, there's also beacons, trackers, and even malware, in some of these ads.  That whole industry has proven that it's not responsible when it come's to people's privacy.
    No matter how you slice it, you either deal with adds or deal with the pop up, which the latter takes what? two seconds to remedy? If you want it free, take it how it's served.
    Or people simply leave and take their traffic to a more respectful website. As many including myself already mentioned, even with adblocks we get 8-11 adds on the website alone. Now they want us to let our guard down. Through very disrespectful means.

    Nope. Its staying up.

    What alternate websites do you suggest?  Anyone else want to list site go ahead!
    http://www.youhaventlived.com/qblog/2010/QBlog190810A.html  

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    Kyleran:  "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."

    John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."

    FreddyNoNose:  "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."

    LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"




  • mastersam21mastersam21 Member UncommonPosts: 70
    For a time way way back I whitelisted this site, after some time the ads got out of control to the point where clicking on a button took me to an ad site. Also viewing this site on my mobile with ads taking up the entire screen without anything to cancel it out, this is way too intrusive. I dont know how it is these days, but my experience in the past with this place means my blocker stays on.
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,126
    edited August 2016
    waynejr2 said:

    What alternate websites do you suggest?  Anyone else want to list site go ahead!
    Thanks for your support. Google will work for that. Must we be insulted on our own site? For Pete's sake.

    The hard fact of the matter is that the tiny staff of this site is paid by the revenue it generates, NOT, by the way, by game companies as my bank account can attest. Without revenue, no more staff and no more site and it's one less independent niche site down the tubes as the homogenization and "Walmart-i-fication" of the Internet continues. Welcome to the American Strip Mall of Sameness.

    I'm saddened to see some long time site members threatening to leave, to refuse to support a place they've enjoyed without issue for years simply for asking to help us keep afloat. 

    I'd warrant many of you would feel differently if YOUR livelihood were being threatened.

    Score one for the corporate machines.


    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 


  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    Asm0deus said:
    Wizardry said:
    ....snip.....

    Problem is the term "ADBLOCKER" makes it sound like users are blocking ads,that is 100% FALSE,it is merely blocking "cookies/trackers/beacons" which are deceptive forms of spying.
    Users will still see the ads,they will still click the click baits and take part in the content which is like 90% advertising content anyhow.

    Also whoever said antivirus and adblockers do nothing cause he hasn't ever had a problem without either.... I have to say you must not surf the web much.

    Noting I said I was using the internet since the 90's.  This adblock stuff is a scam to make you feel like you are safe and secure.  Its just a bunch of bullcrap.  Sure if you allow something to install on your computer then thats your own fault.  Even elicit websites like piratebay, kickass which has the worse ads ever created won't do anything to your computer if you don't press the yes install button.  So keep believing that those ads are harming you somehow if that helps you sleep at night but its just plain wrong.  I am not running any kind of ad blocker and All I see right now is the banner at the bottom.  There's absolutely no reason to block ads from mmorpg.com.  So on this page there's 3 banners at the top and one at the bottom.  Not bad for like 10 pages of scrolling.  
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • MoiraeMoirae Member RarePosts: 3,318
    Daikuru said:
    Just add a premium membership or whatever to call it, like 1$/month or something, problem solved. :D
    Bingo, I'd rather pay $1 or $2 a month directly to MMORPG than open my computer to malware from third parties. 
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,126
    Moirae said:
    Daikuru said:
    Just add a premium membership or whatever to call it, like 1$/month or something, problem solved. :D
    Bingo, I'd rather pay $1 or $2 a month directly to MMORPG than open my computer to malware from third parties. 
    We have a poll running just for that. 

    http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/454559/poll-ad-free-monthly-subscription-option#latest


    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 


  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,768
    SBFord said:
    waynejr2 said:

    What alternate websites do you suggest?  Anyone else want to list site go ahead!
    Thanks for your support. Google will work for that. Must we be insulted on our own site? For Pete's sake.

    The hard fact of the matter is that the tiny staff of this site is paid by the revenue it generates, NOT, by the way, by game companies as my bank account can attest. Without revenue, no more staff and no more site and it's one less independent niche site down the tubes as the homogenization and "Walmart-i-fication" of the Internet continues. Welcome to the American Strip Mall of Sameness.

    I'm saddened to see some long time site members threatening to leave, to refuse to support a place they've enjoyed without issue for years simply for asking to help us keep afloat. 

    I'd warrant many of you would feel differently if YOUR livelihood were being threatened.

    Score one for the corporate machines.

    At least I was able to fish out how closely you guys are following this thread and quickly you might respond to it.

    We hear a lot about mmorpg.com, ads, and revenue.   We understand we come here and you get money.  It is a relationship between mmorpg.com and the advertisers.  However we also heard people talk about their security concerns.  We haven't heard anyone from mmorpg.com address those issues.

    I feel like you are more concerned about the mmorpg.com <-> advertiser relationship.
    http://www.youhaventlived.com/qblog/2010/QBlog190810A.html  

    Epic Music:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAigCvelkhQ&list=PLo9FRw1AkDuQLEz7Gvvaz3ideB2NpFtT1

    https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos?&sort=-downloads&page=1

    Kyleran:  "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."

    John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."

    FreddyNoNose:  "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."

    LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"




  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    Has anyone ever wondered if the adblocker program itself is a virus?  I mean it claims to be doing stuff but you really don't know do you?  For those of us who remember Y2K bug and all the scammy software everyone was selling to update and protect your computer.  It really didn't do anything but make it appear to make changes.  I'd be more worried about what adblocker I was using.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • mastersam21mastersam21 Member UncommonPosts: 70
    I love to support the site, Im just a very cautious person. Charging a premium to keep everything ad free I can do. What about merchandise like tees, sweaters, ect? Id be happy to sport MMORPG.
  • simsalabim77simsalabim77 Member RarePosts: 1,607
    SBFord said:
    The hard fact of the matter is that the tiny staff of this site is paid by the revenue it generates, NOT, by the way, by game companies as my bank account can attest. Without revenue, no more staff and no more site and it's one less independent niche site down the tubes as the homogenization and "Walmart-i-fying" of the Internet continues. Welcome to the American Strip Mall of Sameness.

    I'm saddened to see some long time site members threatening to leave, to refuse to support a place they've enjoyed without issue for years simply for asking to help us keep afloat. 

    I'd warrant many of you would feel differently if YOUR livelihood were being threatened.

    Score one for the corporate machines.

    People are complaining because there are ads and sponsored links even with ad-block enabled. With it disabled, the site becomes kind of gross. A stray click will whisk you away to whatever obscure game website the ad happens to be for. The banner-ad alone takes up a very large portion of the front page with loads of clickable space. I like this site a lot, but the layout of ads and the use of the screen, in general, are pretty hard on the eyes. And now people who don't want to see even more ad space get smacked with an anti-pop up notification. Also, can users be reassured that the ads are safe? 

    Maybe people would be more inclined to disable ABP if the site layout was streamlined and easier to decipher. What's wrong with having several smaller ads off to the side? I have no problem with ads when they are done in a tasteful manner. I don't like being smashed over the head with them. A gigantic banner-ad and other ads that take you off of the site with a stray click are the things I can't stand. 
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    I love to support the site, Im just a very cautious person. Charging a premium to keep everything ad free I can do. What about merchandise like tees, sweaters, ect? Id be happy to sport MMORPG.
    Send me 50$ and I'll send you this one.  Thats my GF wearing one.


    Are you onto something or just on something?
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