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  • holdenhamletholdenhamlet Member EpicPosts: 3,756
    edited August 2016
    Kyleran said:
    Rasiem said:
      Its simply a cash grab and you cant even argue the fact, its literally what the game was built around. It always felt like it would have been a great game if there was some passion behind the development but you can just feel that..there isnt.

    NAER said:
    The games okay I suppose if you like insane amounts of grind and RNG and lackbuster PvP were it's all gear based and skill is meaningless, also you can't even really call it an "MMO" considering almost all the game has to offer you have to do solo and playing with friends actually does more harm then good.
    But if your looking for a way to kill some time and your okay with playing an mmo with damn near 0 social interaction then go for it.
    But, it's not a typical MMO when it comes to end-game. There really isn't one, unless you're into PVP and node wars.
    Recore said:
    I play off and on but for me I am really just waiting for some dungeons and more focus on group play. 
    Definitely a candidate for "Best MMO today"

    lolz. :p
    Yeah, better off playing Eve with all the dungeons that game has.  :p :p

    DmKano said: "I am in the camp that believes this was the worst change yet - it certainly led to some folks leaving the game for good."

    It's true it pissed off a lot of people and caused some to quit.  But what's better, catering to people that require a game to be a zerging bully-fest, or making changes that promote longevity by allowing new people to level up and not get pushed around by zerg guilds?

    Make no mistake, you can still get pushed out of spots.  I got 3 man ganked just yesterday.  I killed a couple of them but left, because it's not worth the time to fight 3 guys over a spot in a game with like 10 channels to grind on.

    Difference is because of the change, fun pvp happened.  I was able to die a few times and come back.  I actually won the last fight, killing 2 of them and causing the third to run away.

    That would not have happened before the change because I would've lost 2% xp and wouldn't have fought a third time (or a second time for that matter).

    Bottom line: people upset about the change are the same kind of people that love Archeage (no surprise).  They need to be carried by a zerg to feel good about themselves.  That's not a game I want to play and you can just look at the failure of Archeage to see that it's not good game design if you want a game to be successful long-term.
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 20,503
    Rasiem said:
      Its simply a cash grab and you cant even argue the fact, its literally what the game was built around. It always felt like it would have been a great game if there was some passion behind the development but you can just feel that..there isnt.
    As opposed to all of those other games that hope to lose money?

    A quick cash grab that the developers don't particularly care about other than for a paycheck wouldn't go so far off the beaten path as Black Desert has.
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 20,503
    Does the game have a wiki or database site or something else that is reasonably complete?  I've found several wikis that barely have anything there.
  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,592
    Quizzical said:
    Does the game have a wiki or database site or something else that is reasonably complete?  I've found several wikis that barely have anything there.
    http://bddatabase.net/us/
    I've found everything I needed on there, ranging from knowledge gathering to crafting ingredients.

    My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)

    https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/

  • LIOKILIOKI Member UncommonPosts: 421
    Duel wield credit cards is all you need now!!!
  • Soki123Soki123 Member RarePosts: 2,558
    The game is beyond garbage, but it s ready to take your money, if that's what you mean?
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 20,062
    Quizzical said:
    Does the game have a wiki or database site or something else that is reasonably complete?  I've found several wikis that barely have anything there.


    Black Desert bible - google drive link

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6eIthnNmwyALVl0cVpvcnI0NUk/view
  • holdenhamletholdenhamlet Member EpicPosts: 3,756
    After today's announcement of implementing p2w, I would wait to see if they actually do it.  I wouldn't advise buying the game if they do.  Most everyone that's passionate about the game is going to quit if they do.  I can't imagine the community being any good afterwards, not to mention the game will be, well, p2w.  Which sucks.

    I guess the game will still be playable casually or just for the side-systems like trading and whatnot, but even then, your accomplishments will feel less meaningful.

    Like for example, this full-time trader who is quitting:

    http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/106786-i-am-1-ranked-in-farmingwealthtradingand-why-i-am-leaving/

    Sad sad day for BDO.
  • BreadbackBreadback Member UncommonPosts: 8
    After today's announcement of implementing p2w, I would wait to see if they actually do it.  I wouldn't advise buying the game if they do.  Most everyone that's passionate about the game is going to quit if they do.  I can't imagine the community being any good afterwards, not to mention the game will be, well, p2w.  Which sucks.

    I guess the game will still be playable casually or just for the side-systems like trading and whatnot, but even then, your accomplishments will feel less meaningful.

    Like for example, this full-time trader who is quitting:

    http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/106786-i-am-1-ranked-in-farmingwealthtradingand-why-i-am-leaving/

    Sad sad day for BDO.
    And...topic's been hidden by the CMs. That's a good sign, if ever there was one!
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 20,503
    Now I'm trying to figure out how much it will cost to play the game the way I want.  On the web site, it looks like there's a $30 "Traveler's Package" and a $50 "Explorer's Package".  I assume that you have to buy one of those to get access to the game, as the "Buy to Play" component of a game that now also has a subscription and an item mall.  Is that accurate?

    On this site, I see stuff about US dollars, Daum cash, and Pearls:

    http://bdo-fashion.com/pearl-shop-prices/

    What's that about?  If it said $30 for 3200 Pearls, and then ignore Daum cash, it would make sense.  But what's the intermediate Daum cash for?

    It looks like character slots are $6 each.  Multiply by five slots (five free slots, ten characters total) and that comes to $30, with a possible need to add more in the future if more classes are added.  The value pack is $15/month, with one or two months included with the initial purchase.  I'm trying to determine whether buying anything else beyond that is necessary.

    Are costumes per character, as opposed to shared by all characters?  $22 for a costume is steep, but it looks like the stats are minor enough that I can ignore them.  If a game feels excessively grindy to me, a 10% experience bonus isn't going to fix it.

    I also see stuff about stable expansion, worker lodging expansion, and storage slot expansion.  Is that particularly necessary?  I have the impression that you get quite a few slots for free (or rather, bought purely with in-game money).  Is that accurate?

    Also, I see that there are a bunch of inventory expansion quests in the game.  Is that enough to make the inventory expansion in the item mall pretty unnecessary?  Also, is the inventory expansion stuff in the item mall on a per character basis or does it increase expansion for all characters on the account?

    Having a pet to automatically loot for you sounds pretty important.  Or maybe that's just coming from Elsword, where if you don't have a pet that can fetch, it takes as long to pick up loot as it does to kill mobs.  Is one pet plenty, or does the loot pickup rate make it too slow?  And are pets sharable by all characters on an account?

    I read somewhere that the horse flute is not shared by characters on an account.  If that's so, $15/character is awfully steep, so I'll have to do without.
  • kitaradkitarad Member EpicPosts: 4,876
    Quizzical said:
    Now I'm trying to figure out how much it will cost to play the game the way I want.  On the web site, it looks like there's a $30 "Traveler's Package" and a $50 "Explorer's Package".  I assume that you have to buy one of those to get access to the game, as the "Buy to Play" component of a game that now also has a subscription and an item mall.  Is that accurate?

    On this site, I see stuff about US dollars, Daum cash, and Pearls:

    http://bdo-fashion.com/pearl-shop-prices/

    What's that about?  If it said $30 for 3200 Pearls, and then ignore Daum cash, it would make sense.  But what's the intermediate Daum cash for?

    It looks like character slots are $6 each.  Multiply by five slots (five free slots, ten characters total) and that comes to $30, with a possible need to add more in the future if more classes are added.  The value pack is $15/month, with one or two months included with the initial purchase.  I'm trying to determine whether buying anything else beyond that is necessary.

    You get 6 slots to start that should be enough to try some classes

    Are costumes per character, as opposed to shared by all characters?  $22 for a costume is steep, but it looks like the stats are minor enough that I can ignore them.  If a game feels excessively grindy to me, a 10% experience bonus isn't going to fix it.

    You get pearl cash rewards and it can add up to quite a bit and you can buy costumes with that.

    I also see stuff about stable expansion, worker lodging expansion, and storage slot expansion.  Is that particularly necessary?  I have the impression that you get quite a few slots for free (or rather, bought purely with in-game money).  Is that accurate?

    Those items you can earn in game by accumulating contribution points and purchasing those expansions with that.

    Also, I see that there are a bunch of inventory expansion quests in the game.  Is that enough to make the inventory expansion in the item mall pretty unnecessary?  Also, is the inventory expansion stuff in the item mall on a per character basis or does it increase expansion for all characters on the account?

    There are quests to increase inventory slots I make do with those.

    Having a pet to automatically loot for you sounds pretty important.  Or maybe that's just coming from Elsword, where if you don't have a pet that can fetch, it takes as long to pick up loot as it does to kill mobs.  Is one pet plenty, or does the loot pickup rate make it too slow?  And are pets sharable by all characters on an account?
    Might need a pet as loot disappear if not picked up.

    I read somewhere that the horse flute is not shared by characters on an account.  If that's so, $15/character is awfully steep, so I'll have to do without.

    I think it is shared.
    Tried to answer some stuff am relatively new to game so hopefully others might help.

  • AlexanderVendiAlexanderVendi Member UncommonPosts: 272
    edited August 2016
    The game is a huge cashcrab ...
    I am not even going to mention the p2w aspect that they just implemented (u can buy best class item at level 1 whit just your cc and no restrictions)
    The game costs 30euro and u pretty much get nothing from the initial purchase just access to the game.
    The game is one major grind , there is no story what so ever because the voice acting is horrible and there is no real immersion in the story what so ever...
    U have grind , just grind so u can get better gear...
    U will be paying way waaaaaaaaaaaay more then the initial cost of the game even in in your first month because there is no realistic way of playing the game on a satisfying/non fustrating level without purchasing at least 2 pets and the pvp costume.. even whit 2 pets , looting is a clusterf because there is so much shit to loot .... the pvp costume is a must at endgame.
    Thats 80euro that u will deposit in your first month alone .. then u have weight limit restriction ... yeh it's fun to go kill a few mobs that are 10-15 mins of horse ride away just so u can come back after 10 mins because u are *full* after picking up 3-4 items...
    Do yourself a favor and avoid this game.
  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 7,836
    The game is a huge cashcrab ...
    I am not even going to mention the p2w aspect that they just implemented (u can buy best class item at level 1 whit just your cc and no restrictions)
    The game costs 30euro and u pretty much get nothing from the initial purchase just access to the game.
    The game is one major grind , there is no story what so ever because the voice acting is horrible and there is no real immersion in the story what so ever...
    U have grind , just grind so u can get better gear...
    U will be paying way waaaaaaaaaaaay more then the initial cost of the game even in in your first month because there is no realistic way of playing the game on a satisfying/non fustrating level without purchasing at least 2 pets and the pvp costume.. even whit 2 pets , looting is a clusterf because there is so much shit to loot .... the pvp costume is a must at endgame.
    Thats 80euro that u will deposit in your first month alone .. then u have weight limit restriction ... yeh it's fun to go kill a few mobs that are 10-15 mins of horse ride away just so u can come back after 10 mins because u are *full* after picking up 3-4 items...
    Do yourself a favor and avoid this game.
    This whole post is just wrong. You don't need to buy anything to play the game.
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  • AlexanderVendiAlexanderVendi Member UncommonPosts: 272
    The game is a huge cashcrab ...
    I am not even going to mention the p2w aspect that they just implemented (u can buy best class item at level 1 whit just your cc and no restrictions)
    The game costs 30euro and u pretty much get nothing from the initial purchase just access to the game.
    The game is one major grind , there is no story what so ever because the voice acting is horrible and there is no real immersion in the story what so ever...
    U have grind , just grind so u can get better gear...
    U will be paying way waaaaaaaaaaaay more then the initial cost of the game even in in your first month because there is no realistic way of playing the game on a satisfying/non fustrating level without purchasing at least 2 pets and the pvp costume.. even whit 2 pets , looting is a clusterf because there is so much shit to loot .... the pvp costume is a must at endgame.
    Thats 80euro that u will deposit in your first month alone .. then u have weight limit restriction ... yeh it's fun to go kill a few mobs that are 10-15 mins of horse ride away just so u can come back after 10 mins because u are *full* after picking up 3-4 items...
    Do yourself a favor and avoid this game.
    This whole post is just wrong. You don't need to buy anything to play the game.
    No it is not ... u have yet to reach endgame i believe because what i said is 100% fact...
  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 7,836
    The game is a huge cashcrab ...
    I am not even going to mention the p2w aspect that they just implemented (u can buy best class item at level 1 whit just your cc and no restrictions)
    The game costs 30euro and u pretty much get nothing from the initial purchase just access to the game.
    The game is one major grind , there is no story what so ever because the voice acting is horrible and there is no real immersion in the story what so ever...
    U have grind , just grind so u can get better gear...
    U will be paying way waaaaaaaaaaaay more then the initial cost of the game even in in your first month because there is no realistic way of playing the game on a satisfying/non fustrating level without purchasing at least 2 pets and the pvp costume.. even whit 2 pets , looting is a clusterf because there is so much shit to loot .... the pvp costume is a must at endgame.
    Thats 80euro that u will deposit in your first month alone .. then u have weight limit restriction ... yeh it's fun to go kill a few mobs that are 10-15 mins of horse ride away just so u can come back after 10 mins because u are *full* after picking up 3-4 items...
    Do yourself a favor and avoid this game.
    This whole post is just wrong. You don't need to buy anything to play the game.
    No it is not ... u have yet to reach endgame i believe because what i said is 100% fact...
    My highest character is 56. You know what they say about assumptions, right? ;)
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  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    played it up to about lvl 20 on the free trial and found it very playable up to that level.  It's not what I would call a great game but it is good for what it is. I found it  fun in a Diablo sort of way where you kill a dozen mobs at a time , loot, rinse and repeat. Never died or came close. I found the game a bit simplistic but can see where some would love it. I might purchase and just play it as a time killer, or maybe not. Can't speak for the end game PvP but PvE up to mid lvl was amusing.

    I miss DAoC

  • cybersrscybersrs Member UncommonPosts: 180
    peanutabc said:
    Quizzical said:
    With my last Elsword character at the level cap and the complete inability of most MMORPGs to create a passable endgame, it's likely that I'll be looking for a new game soon.  I've got several games on my list to try, but am currently leaning toward Black Desert because:

    a)  It's the only one on my list that has the potential to be really great, as opposed to merely pretty good, and
    b)  It has got a lot of non-combat activities, making it considerably different from the almost pure combat Elsword that I'd be coming from.

    But the game only launched earlier this year, and a lot of games are a disastrous mess at launch but largely get fixed later.  I generally like to wait until such games are fixed before picking them up.  So my basic question is:

    1)  Is Black Desert ready to go now, or is it likely to be a far superior game several months from now to what it is today?

    This isn't asking if you like the game on an absolute scale; I'd have to decide that for myself.  It's asking if they're still in the process of delivering major fixes with some yet to come obviously on the horizon, or whether the game is unlikely to be much better several months from now than it is today.

    Some other questions:

    2)  Has hacking been fixed entirely, or at least to the point that it's no worse than most other MMORPGs?

    I saw news that there was a patch that broke hacks a while back, after the game had previously had severe problems with hackers.  But there's a difference between changing random things that temporarily break hacks until they come back a week or two later, versus adding server-side verification to make entire classes of hacks permanently impossible.  So are the hackers back, or does it seem fixed?

    3)  How "pay to win" is the game?

    I have no problem with paying a moderate amount for a game that I like.  I have no problem with players who pay $10 or $20 per month having huge advantages over people who pay absolutely nothing.  But if someone who pays $50/month has no hope of competing with someone who pays $100/month, that's a problem.  So where does Black Desert land on this scale?

    4)  Is it easy to transfer money, goods, etc. between alts?

    I tend to play a lot of alts in most MMORPGs, unless game mechanics let one character readily do everything.  There are a variety of ways to do the latter, from no classes at all as in Spiral Knights to FFXIV's armory system, but it sure looks like Black Desert doesn't.  So can I freely transfer things back and forth among alts (e.g., mail or shared bank), or is it a pain or even categorically impossible?

    5)  Just how non-consensual is the PVP?

    I've seen that beyond level 45, it's open PVP.  Does that mean that past level 45, you can expect to constantly be ganked?  Or is it pretty restrictive so that you'll virtually never get attacked if you don't want to be?  For example, in Uncharted Waters Online, about half the world is open PVP, but there are such severe penalties to attacking people that I lost in PVP exactly three times in about two years, and all three were because I was careless.

    6)  How grindy does the game feel?

    I gather that Black Desert has pretty slow leveling.  But there's a huge difference between having a huge amount of varied content to go through to level up versus having to kill 1000 of the same thing to level up.  So does Black Desert feel grindy, or is there plenty to do on the way?  Or does it start feeling grindy at some particular level?

    BDO is a shallow game

    It's a "sandbox" that has nothing to do 

    daum are rather terrible too.

    zero balance

    zerg pvp

    handful of zones to grind to level efficiently at 50+ yet you'll want to be be 56 minimum to be competitive

    buy to play with subscription( new item shop thing that lasts 30 days and gives absurd bonuses )

    I claimed fraud and got my money back.

    Felt good.

    I also agree with you... Claimed fraud, tried to get refund and they did not accept it... How did that work for you?
  • fearufearu Member UncommonPosts: 192
    edited August 2016
    You missed the boat already on BDO.

    It's gone P2W and steadily dying.
  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,592
    edited August 2016
    kitarad said:
    Quizzical said:
    Now I'm trying to figure out how much it will cost to play the game the way I want.  On the web site, it looks like there's a $30 "Traveler's Package" and a $50 "Explorer's Package".  I assume that you have to buy one of those to get access to the game, as the "Buy to Play" component of a game that now also has a subscription and an item mall.  Is that accurate?

    On this site, I see stuff about US dollars, Daum cash, and Pearls:

    http://bdo-fashion.com/pearl-shop-prices/

    What's that about?  If it said $30 for 3200 Pearls, and then ignore Daum cash, it would make sense.  But what's the intermediate Daum cash for?

    It looks like character slots are $6 each.  Multiply by five slots (five free slots, ten characters total) and that comes to $30, with a possible need to add more in the future if more classes are added.  The value pack is $15/month, with one or two months included with the initial purchase.  I'm trying to determine whether buying anything else beyond that is necessary.

    You get 6 slots to start that should be enough to try some classes

    Are costumes per character, as opposed to shared by all characters?  $22 for a costume is steep, but it looks like the stats are minor enough that I can ignore them.  If a game feels excessively grindy to me, a 10% experience bonus isn't going to fix it.

    You get pearl cash rewards and it can add up to quite a bit and you can buy costumes with that.

    I also see stuff about stable expansion, worker lodging expansion, and storage slot expansion.  Is that particularly necessary?  I have the impression that you get quite a few slots for free (or rather, bought purely with in-game money).  Is that accurate?

    Those items you can earn in game by accumulating contribution points and purchasing those expansions with that.

    Also, I see that there are a bunch of inventory expansion quests in the game.  Is that enough to make the inventory expansion in the item mall pretty unnecessary?  Also, is the inventory expansion stuff in the item mall on a per character basis or does it increase expansion for all characters on the account?

    There are quests to increase inventory slots I make do with those.

    Having a pet to automatically loot for you sounds pretty important.  Or maybe that's just coming from Elsword, where if you don't have a pet that can fetch, it takes as long to pick up loot as it does to kill mobs.  Is one pet plenty, or does the loot pickup rate make it too slow?  And are pets sharable by all characters on an account?
    Might need a pet as loot disappear if not picked up.

    I read somewhere that the horse flute is not shared by characters on an account.  If that's so, $15/character is awfully steep, so I'll have to do without.

    I think it is shared.
    Tried to answer some stuff am relatively new to game so hopefully others might help.
    The flute isn't shared. It's for one character. I need to check whether it's bound to that character, or if you can transfer it through the warehouse though. I believe it's the latter, but I'm hesitant to say it for sure without checking first. I'll look into it later.

    Inventory, warehouse and even character slots can be bought with LP (loyalty points) which you get on logging on each day. In addition, as @kitarad mentioned, you can increase your inventory through quests.

    Here's a list of all the quests that give inventory slots: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10hHbShPIf02IZYHS7pj0vYnnxq7WmPAl2I6o8ev69GU/edit#gid=0

    Warehouse space you can get through contribution points in game, which you get from questing and from doing certain crafting professions (Alchemy and Cooking for sure, possibly from farming too).

    Not having a pet IS obnoxious... but... if the oh so hated update (by some people anyway) does go through next week, you can just buy one off the Markplace for in game silver. Well... provided a) people are actually selling some, and b) they aren't bought up too quickly, since there are a lot of players that will be looking to increase the number of pets they have to 3.

    My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)

    https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/

  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 7,836
    You could get pets through free in game events too.
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  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,592
    You could get pets through free in game events too.
    Hopefully they'll do more of those in the future as well, yes.

    My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)

    https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 26,076
     there is no story what so ever because the voice acting is horrible and there is no real immersion in the story what so ever...

    The game is not about story so much as player interaction.

    As far as immersion, there is quite a bit it's just woven into the "world" of the game. This game feel more like an "mmo", especially around the node wars. To see people congratulating people in world chat after a fight really sort of brings it all together.

    Obviously the game is not for everyone but I suspect if people are used to the older pvp games such as Lineage/Lineage 2 they might like it.



  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 26,076
    Quizzical said:


    Having a pet to automatically loot for you sounds pretty important.  
    I wasn't using a pet for the longest time then thought it would be fun to have a dog (named Murray from a book I was writing in high school) and realized it really let one get into "grinding" and made it so much more fluid. I then got a hawk because of some event or some such thing. However, I really don't feel like any more animals following me around even though some people have something like 4.



  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,592
    Sovrath said:
    Quizzical said:


    Having a pet to automatically loot for you sounds pretty important.  
    I wasn't using a pet for the longest time then thought it would be fun to have a dog (named Murray from a book I was writing in high school) and realized it really let one get into "grinding" and made it so much more fluid. I then got a hawk because of some event or some such thing. However, I really don't feel like any more animals following me around even though some people have something like 4.
    Three is the max you can have out at one time.
    The early levels you can easily get by without a pet, but once you start fighting the more densely packed mobs, it gets incredibly tedious looting them all by hand. As you say, it puts a damper on the whole grinding thing.

    My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)

    https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 20,503
    The game is a huge cashcrab ...
    I am not even going to mention the p2w aspect that they just implemented (u can buy best class item at level 1 whit just your cc and no restrictions)
    The game costs 30euro and u pretty much get nothing from the initial purchase just access to the game.
    The game is one major grind , there is no story what so ever because the voice acting is horrible and there is no real immersion in the story what so ever...
    U have grind , just grind so u can get better gear...
    U will be paying way waaaaaaaaaaaay more then the initial cost of the game even in in your first month because there is no realistic way of playing the game on a satisfying/non fustrating level without purchasing at least 2 pets and the pvp costume.. even whit 2 pets , looting is a clusterf because there is so much shit to loot .... the pvp costume is a must at endgame.
    Thats 80euro that u will deposit in your first month alone .. then u have weight limit restriction ... yeh it's fun to go kill a few mobs that are 10-15 mins of horse ride away just so u can come back after 10 mins because u are *full* after picking up 3-4 items...
    Do yourself a favor and avoid this game.
    This whole post is just wrong. You don't need to buy anything to play the game.
    You can play for free?  I thought it was a "buy to play" model, so you had to pay an initial $30 to get access.  Has that changed?
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