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  • fatearsfatears Member UncommonPosts: 86
    Distopia said:
    fatears said:
    Distopia said:
    fatears said:
    Distopia said:
    Again with the "I'm the only honest one"... I post my honest feelings regardless of how popular they are.

    Do you have any kind of reasoning to validate the notion others aren't being honest, so in turn they're scoring better? 


    I'll chime in here, I have absolutely nothing to verify a hunch, that is all it is, a Columboesque hunch, but there are certain posters on here who respond to most new threads with a very measured rehash of opinions known to be popular on this site. It may be that all their opinions are effortlessly populist... but seems odd.  
    That depends on what you want to attribute the intended pay off to? It's no secret that social acceptance is something some seek. Yet I think the payoff there is that social acceptance, not an arbitrary point system. As that has always been an "issue" on forums scored or not scored. Some people care about being a part of the "in" crowd. 

    I really don't think the point system equates to overall social acceptance, more so ratio of individual agreeable points made. In other words, frequency of offering rational thoughts. Which is quite simply the easiest type of statement to agree with. 
     




    Rational thoughts or thoughts that reflect a consensus of opinion amongst your audience, in other words, populist. I think it is the latter that receives most upvotes, as long as it is couched in language that doesn't stray so far into sycophancy as to be transparent. 

    I certainly think some will see a points system as validation. I also think it results in people sanitizing their opinions into banality. I would rather reading threads by the OP than threads by people too afraid of the backlash to voice their true opinions.
    We're talking about games here, populist opinion is always going to be a part of entertainment discussion, the games that are popular are the games that are popular for a reason. 

    Hence, I'm still drawing a blank on what would motivate one to take a stance on games they don't actually agree with. It would make little sense. There's little reason to, as there are "groups" to belong to either way. You can play the hipster, but to what avail? An arbitrary score on a site devoted to a meaningless hobby, that means nothing in the overall social sphere?

    Are you just trying to be profane, or is there a reason to focus on what would in all likely hood be an outlier of even the extreme user here?



    The problem is that I reject your central assertion, that no-one here cares about the points system. I think that some users manifestly care a great deal about it.
    You received 25 LOLs. 
    You are posting some laughably bad content, please desist. 
  • DKLondDKLond Member RarePosts: 2,177
    I don't think we have the slightest chance of knowing just how many people care about the points system.

    However, in my experience - a surprising amount of people tend to care about things I personally have zero interest in.

    So, I would have to guess that a significant portion of posters care about it - to some extent.
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,180
    No, while I felt quite a large unnecessary wall of text was involved, I felt the OPs idea had some merit for discussion, but was amused after a read through how many posters claimed they didn't and in fact don't feel any of the guy's ideas have merit yet they continue to keep his threads alive. I was just pointing out the irony.
    Going back to the topic, I think that's the issue the OP seems to be having.. His point is good fuel for discussion, it's just bogged down by it's delivery. He framed it to close to himself, rather than the actual system that is in place here. 

    Which there are plenty of pros and cons to discuss with these systems.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • rodingorodingo Member RarePosts: 2,862
    I wouldn't be too concerned about the points here on this site.  The only time I have seen another poster use them as some sort of status symbol is about 8 months to a year ago.  A particular poster didn't like a list that MMORPG.com came up with.  I think something along the lines of top 10 MMOs of all time or something.  Since ESO didn't make that list he posted his own top 10 list that was agreed upon by, according to him, the the "top posters" which was what he determined by the number of points he and some others had.  I think he felt points = credibility or authority,...or something.  Needless to say ESO made his list, of course.  It was amusing regardless, but yeh. 

    Points?  Unless MMORPG.com starts handing out prizes for high scores instead of different colored names then meh. 

    "If I offended you, you needed it" -Corey Taylor

  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 20,048
    The points are meaningless, same with colors and ranks.

    It was meant to be a fun/light hearted system not indicative of anything serious. 

    You can safely ignore it and just focus on the posts and the site is the same as before.


  • mbrodiembrodie Member RarePosts: 1,338
    Distopia said:
     

    Also, I'm always amazed at how many of the same people continuously flock to @Kopogero's threads just to tell him how much they don't care what he has to say.
    Lets be honest here, most of us responding are those who lurk the recent posts feed... We flock to everything... a certain mister as well :P...
    yeah i came here off a whim from the recent posts thread... and then the OPs words got the best of me and i had to bite.
  • mbrodiembrodie Member RarePosts: 1,338
    DMKano said:
    The points are meaningless, same with colors and ranks.

    It was meant to be a fun/light hearted system not indicative of anything serious. 

    You can safely ignore it and just focus on the posts and the site is the same as before.


    i also agree with this... it's meant to be a bit of fun and variety to the forums, but of course some people just have to take things too far.
  • fs23otmfs23otm Member UncommonPosts: 498
    People really take this stuff seriously...
    Master being the duck in the rain....
  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon Member RarePosts: 3,374
    edited July 2016
    I couldn't care less about rankings on some mmo average gaming site. I also wouldn't put this site and the word integrity in the same sentence. They sell space to mmo company's who expect them to say nice thing's about there games.


    I get it's a business but you could still have some integrity, unfortunately this site lost it years ago.

    BioWare and swtor is a great example of what I'm speaking about and numerous other games that really haven't  lived up to the hype this site generated. 


    Look at how they creamed themselves over EQN lol.




  • AntiquatedAntiquated Member RarePosts: 1,415
    edited July 2016
    Quizzical said:
    I have an assignment for you.  I want you to run an ordinary least squares linear regression.  The y-axis should be someone's score, while x-variables should be his number of insightfuls, agrees, awesomes, and LOLs received.  Get data on 20 or so players with a lot of posts and blue or purple names, but filter out any that have at least 1k of any particular button type, as those don't show you exact numbers.  Come back and report the coefficients you find.
      Z scores, please.

    Maybe we could keep him busy with a Correlational Snipe Hunt.
  • xyzercrimexyzercrime Member RarePosts: 878
    Realizer said:
    Kopogero said:
    Good for him, and he shouldn't like most here don't as I've been saying because of the nature of the ranking system in place. It's MMORPG.com staff job to make these forums matter enough for individuals to care more.
     So now you are blaming the site creators for their rating system benefiting others more than you? While those people seem to get agrees and insightful responses, yet people only LOL you, because your stuff is ridiculous? The difference is those people are posting things that people actually like, where you are mostly posting stuff about yourself. Every thread you've ever made, has been about you in one way or another. 

     You even posted about your dentistry work costing too much, sometimes you just gotta pay for things and move on. Sinatra said it best, That's life.. 
    +100 Awesome (If only I could clicking that many, sigh..)

    "....they just try to get my rating as low as possible by tagging every post I make with "LOL", "LOL", "LOL"."

    You know what? When I read THAT line, I immediately looked for "LOL" and clicked on it.

    I just remembered a quote from True Detective series:
    "We Get The World We Deserve."



    When you don't want the truth, you will make up your own truth.
  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,055
    First off... The day i actually care about the "integrity" of a un-regulated entertainment site is the day i need a head exam. No matter in what capacity you use the word.

    As for the ranking system, could not care less. I see a ding every now and than i have got a mile stone amount of something. That is about as much as i care. 

    Threads like this as a result of said ranking system... Priceless. 

    Tawess gaming

    Tawess soapbox

    This have been a good conversation

  • xyzercrimexyzercrime Member RarePosts: 878
    edited July 2016
    Say hi to professor X...




    When you don't want the truth, you will make up your own truth.
  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 3,979
    Sorry the F2P MMORPG.com is P2W.
  • DKLondDKLond Member RarePosts: 2,177
    Horusra said:
    Sorry the F2P MMORPG.com is P2W.
    With a lot of PvP.
  • xyzercrimexyzercrime Member RarePosts: 878
    What if I say that Kopogero is Kim Kardashian of MMORPG.com?





    When you don't want the truth, you will make up your own truth.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 32,236
    I'd rather have my old forum title (Bittervet) than this "Epic" one any day.

    "See normal people, I'm not one of them" | G-Easy & Big Sean

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing POE at the moment.

    Fools find no pleasure in understanding, but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

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  • DKLondDKLond Member RarePosts: 2,177
    Kyleran said:
    I'd rather have my old forum title (Bittervet) than this "Epic" one any day.
    My god, I'm only rare! :(

    Epic sounds a lot cooler. Unless we're talking wellfare epics - as my fellow WoW raiders used to call purples :)
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 32,236
    Thorkune said:
    I get a kick out of the folks on the site that have a purple name and have only been members for months. They are the same ones that race to end game when playing mmo's and have nothing to do and complain about it afterward. Like in game, it will probably take me years to get purple because I don't care about racing to the finish. I enjoy the ride...
    Funny you mention this, it seems I've obtained almost all of the available badges and titles so I guess I've reached "endgame?" ;)

    "See normal people, I'm not one of them" | G-Easy & Big Sean

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing POE at the moment.

    Fools find no pleasure in understanding, but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

    Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™

    "This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon






  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 3,979
    Woe is me.  A lowly rare.  My life now has no meaning.  I am going to go find a bridge.  When I get there a will jump or live under it.....
  • cameltosiscameltosis Member EpicPosts: 2,128
    I must admit, I started posting slightly more regularly as I approached "rare" (500 points) but I've never once altered what I wanted to say in order to gather more clicks. 

    As others have already said, its a meaningless status thing. 

    Also, @Kopogero , all those LOLs are counting towards your status, not detracting from it, so each time you post the same "I haven't spent any money" message and we all laugh at you, its actually helping your status, not hindering it. 

    If you care about your own integrity, stop posting crap and start contributing. Nobody cares how long its been since you spent money on a new game, just put a line in your signature or something. Try actively contributing to the subject of MMOs, suggest new features, provide new information, set out balanced arguements etc. Bitching and moaning won't get you anywhere. 
  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,589
    edited July 2016
    LOL *awards another LOL to @Kopogero.*
    You've earned it buddy. I can never tell whether you're actually serious, or simply trolling everyone each time you make one of these. Masterful.

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    https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/

  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,560
    Honestly this thread should make your score go down. 
    Raging Demons for all flowchart "Kens". This is a metaphor.
  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 1,980
    This is what I am getting from @Kopogero OP...



    I swear to god if I don't get AT LEAST 5 "Awesomes" and 10 "LOL" from this post I will never spend a dime on any game again and will post weekly reminding you all of my decision.

    You have been warned!

    Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.


  • PhaserlightPhaserlight Member EpicPosts: 2,762
    After wading through all that I've got to say in my not so humble opinion, much ado about nothing. I find it no more meaningful than the amount of twitter followers someone has, or how many people have tagged them on facebook. 

    Also, I'm always amazed at how many of the same people continuously flock to @Kopogero's threads just to tell him how much they don't care what he has to say.
    I suspect it has something to do with the ellipses...

    "The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar
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