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It will be hard not to buy Legion expansion in two months...
Kopogero
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1) Will it help me get to six years without spending $ on a new game? Yes.
2) Will it still control a quarter of the market vs 44% from the last expansion on launch? Yes.
3) Will it grab more $ than anything new that came in the last few years and still coming in 2016? Yes.
4) Will this be the last good chance Blizzard has to bring WOW to where once it was? Yes.
5) Will I have more fun than its last expansion? Yes.
The reason why I support WOW despite its terrible performance is because regardless of how terrible decisions they've made with the game, WOW is still doing better than any other MMO I can think of and that will be most evident when Legion launches. One thing I also do know is to not spit in the old well until I've dig a new one, in other words, regardless of what's coming in distant future, all the promises, all the hype, what I have today is what counts and I can't be anything but grateful that Legion is indeed coming, because if that wasn't the case 2016 would've been indeed the lowest this genre can get, imo of course.
So, in these next two months I'll continue to think, communicate with this community and calculate what will be the best option for me because at the end I'll be voting with my wallet by spending or not spending with it. I understand today that WOW has 20% less control of the market it had and 10% are undecided vs 15% if they will be buying Legion on launch, especially how it's still kinda early...but I believe the closer we get to release date it is essential we discuss more often about Legion, so when it launches we can be more conclusive about it.
Yes, I understand its easy to hate Blizzard and I too can easily skip spending $ on it, especially how I've managed to do that on every single new product since January 11th, 2011, but this is the future of the genre we are voting about not just about if its worth buying it or not. I believe its important the MMO players to be loyal and show their loyalty to exceptional products that have given us what few could through the decade, and more importantly still are making a difference, competing with the rest that's trying to take a bite in this market.
When I'm buying Legion, I'm also voting for quality over quantity and for longevity over short lifespan MMO's that quickly become forgotten. I'm simply saying ENOUGH to half ass products that pray on hype, popular IPs, box sales and whales where they can spend as much as they can. Yes, F2P games are great and I've benefited greatly from them, but I never saw them as the "future" for how gaming it should be about. For me they always were a filler up, a time sink products until that great game arrives that I can easily afford and would gladly spend $ to support it.
When I look back through these 5½ years, I can't think of a single new MMO that has impacted this genre in a positive way, and that's mostly evident by where these MMO's are today, but as I've said in every bad story there is a good one as well, and for me it's called Legion. When it launches, I'll enjoy a great story, I'll do dungeons, I'll do raids, I'll do rated battle grounds, I'll do arena and many other side things in between.
What's hard to argue is that WOW is still the #1 when it comes to PvE progression. It will still take few days through the week for few hours for guilds to organize and learn how to overcome challenging content. Many will quit the game that can't handle challenge, pressure, critique and drama that comes from being part of a guild. No doubt about that. Many who are also not PvP'ers might end up with a drought for few to couple weeks before new content arrives, but for players like me who see the game for what it is and fully enjoy all of what it offers, I have no reason not to buy Legion on launch, at least not yet.
2) Will it still control a quarter of the market vs 44% from the last expansion on launch? Yes.
3) Will it grab more $ than anything new that came in the last few years and still coming in 2016? Yes.
4) Will this be the last good chance Blizzard has to bring WOW to where once it was? Yes.
5) Will I have more fun than its last expansion? Yes.
The reason why I support WOW despite its terrible performance is because regardless of how terrible decisions they've made with the game, WOW is still doing better than any other MMO I can think of and that will be most evident when Legion launches. One thing I also do know is to not spit in the old well until I've dig a new one, in other words, regardless of what's coming in distant future, all the promises, all the hype, what I have today is what counts and I can't be anything but grateful that Legion is indeed coming, because if that wasn't the case 2016 would've been indeed the lowest this genre can get, imo of course.
So, in these next two months I'll continue to think, communicate with this community and calculate what will be the best option for me because at the end I'll be voting with my wallet by spending or not spending with it. I understand today that WOW has 20% less control of the market it had and 10% are undecided vs 15% if they will be buying Legion on launch, especially how it's still kinda early...but I believe the closer we get to release date it is essential we discuss more often about Legion, so when it launches we can be more conclusive about it.
Yes, I understand its easy to hate Blizzard and I too can easily skip spending $ on it, especially how I've managed to do that on every single new product since January 11th, 2011, but this is the future of the genre we are voting about not just about if its worth buying it or not. I believe its important the MMO players to be loyal and show their loyalty to exceptional products that have given us what few could through the decade, and more importantly still are making a difference, competing with the rest that's trying to take a bite in this market.
When I'm buying Legion, I'm also voting for quality over quantity and for longevity over short lifespan MMO's that quickly become forgotten. I'm simply saying ENOUGH to half ass products that pray on hype, popular IPs, box sales and whales where they can spend as much as they can. Yes, F2P games are great and I've benefited greatly from them, but I never saw them as the "future" for how gaming it should be about. For me they always were a filler up, a time sink products until that great game arrives that I can easily afford and would gladly spend $ to support it.
When I look back through these 5½ years, I can't think of a single new MMO that has impacted this genre in a positive way, and that's mostly evident by where these MMO's are today, but as I've said in every bad story there is a good one as well, and for me it's called Legion. When it launches, I'll enjoy a great story, I'll do dungeons, I'll do raids, I'll do rated battle grounds, I'll do arena and many other side things in between.
What's hard to argue is that WOW is still the #1 when it comes to PvE progression. It will still take few days through the week for few hours for guilds to organize and learn how to overcome challenging content. Many will quit the game that can't handle challenge, pressure, critique and drama that comes from being part of a guild. No doubt about that. Many who are also not PvP'ers might end up with a drought for few to couple weeks before new content arrives, but for players like me who see the game for what it is and fully enjoy all of what it offers, I have no reason not to buy Legion on launch, at least not yet.
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Rob Manuel
So...eventually.
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Blizzard is not a fast moving company. They are not capable of righting the ship in one expansion and they haven't earned my trust at this point. It may take them shifting to a true F2P model or hosting a vanilla/BC server for me to return.
Cataclysm was a side story that hurt the game and stalled the story. The same goes for MoP and the alternate universe in WoD.
Fighting the Legion for real is a long time coming, but fighting on Azeroth isn't what I had in mind. They aren't going to defeat the Legion by turtling and Blizzard doesn't need to unearth every crack on Azeroth.
They lost steam when they resolved most everything from WC3 except for the Burning Legion and they chose to milk the story and deliver less content per expac.
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Game feels already too old dated and all the same...
I´m also very tired of their "favor of the month" policy with classes... I played Warlock and they nerfed all of the sudden 25% all of its dmg...now demon is not even going to transform into devil... I´m so sick of that class rollercoaster.
WoW is all but dead, and sinking faster with every expansion. WoW is the past and has no future, as such loyalty to a dying thing seems pointless. The current argument seems to be not to buy the expansion because it is fun, or will revitalize the game, But simply to buy it because its still the largest (if dying) MMO that used to be fun. There for rewarding Blizzard in the short run for poorly done expansions that are killing the game in the long run... Humm maybe the game just needs more panda's ??
The Market voted with their wallets that short poorly done content dribbled out over long periods of time was ok, Blizzard happily took the easy road and gave it to them.
WoW is like a Huge dying tree in a forest, it still sucks up the nutrients from the ground and blocks out the sunlight from reaching the new growth below thus preventing anything from growing to it heights. Perhaps it is time to accept the sooner WoW is gone the faster new MMOs with a future will grow
...What kind of logic is that?
Support titles because they perform well and make decisions you like, not because they are the biggest fish in the pond. >_<
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If the game is worth your money - then it makes no sense not to support it. You can't blame Blizzard and their excellent work on WoW for how the world revolves around money. Blizzard aren't commanding other investors to ape them and fail.
Also, I very much doubt you'd be jumping with joy over Legion even if Blizzard did every expansion exactly according to YOUR personal wishes. Something which, in itself, would be a ludicrously narcissistic expecation.
Why? Because the game is 12 years old. The fact that you can still have a lot of fun with it should tell you something. That something probably shouldn't be that Blizzard have made nothing but terrible decisions.
What other game have you enjoyed for as many hours - for so many years?
2) Will i play Legion as long as i played WotLK? No.
3) Will it bring the glory it had during WotLK? No.
4) Will this be the last good chance Blizzard has to bring WOW to where once it was? No.
5) Will I have more fun than during WotLK? No.
I'd say it's pretty easy to not buy Legion and i'm actually active in WoW atm.. on a private server cause ain't nobody crazy enough to play WoD.
Before there was the problem of no other good game to play- I am definitely not having that problem atm. I am playing 4 online games I really enjoy and will almost definitely still be enjoying when the expansion comes out.
The expansion has about as much appeal to me as an expansion to ffxi- Yeah it was a great MMO but I've moved on.
I do not play wow that much, but the above is written after and before every expansion. It's interesting to note that with wow *DYING* it still has a lot more players that most MMO's that are seen to be doing extremely well.
A game this old will always seen a natural loss of players, I am surprised to see its player base still hitting above the 5mil mark, not bad for a game that's over 10years old. If WOW ended, new MMO's would not be better and they would not gain more followers.
The gaming community needs a game that has a rich and detailed RPG feel to it, coupled with fast paced combat. Going back to slow paced & clunky combat of the late 90's and early 2000 age is not the right idea. You would also need two types of servers, one with pvp and one without. Concerning the skills of this game, PVE & PVP skills need to be separate. That way balancing issues will not tick off both sides and you keep your community happy.
There are a lot of good changes in LEGION, but the combat sounds for melee seem are a bit off. I will probably buy LEGION and play it until something better crosses my path.
I think WoW is a great game and I've been back to it now three times to check out the new content. Sometimes I'm behind a few expansions when I return but I play through it, see most of what there is to see, then move on again. I do have to admit that the graphics, for me, are looking a tad bit dated at this point. A shame really since WoW has so many fun things to offer.
A couple single player games are starting to interest me at this point so between them and my current MMO, I will be happily occupied for the time being.
It's good.............for 3 months.
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