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Just watched the movie, my quick impressions here !SPOILERS!

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  • DKLondDKLond Member RarePosts: 2,273
    DKLond said:
    DKLond said:

    Scott is extremely competent in technical terms, but I don't think much of him as a storyteller.
    Blade Runner. Thelma and Louise. American Gangster.
    Blade Runner is mesmerizing - but also pretty dull.

    As for the other two, I find both overrated.

    But, as I said, when the script is good - he can tell a good story. To me, that means the writer is the storyteller - and Scott just facilitates the story with his excellent grasp of visuals.

    But we don't have to agree :)
    We are apparently disagreeing like gentlemen - a nice change on these forums :)
    So what would be a good movie for you? You have an example?
    To me, disagreeing is among the most natural things in the world - and I see nothing negative about it. It can, and probably should, be an opportunity to learn and broaden our horizons.

    Hmm, there are many kinds of great movies. A very hard question to give a simple answer for.

    But, to be fair, I CAN enjoy movies that focus on "superficial" qualities. For instance, I have a strange appreciation for Tron Legacy - which is really quite a bad movie in terms of writing. But the "experience" I had watching it in the theater was truly special. The combination of those visuals and the Daft Punk soundtrack - with a bit of nostalgia on top - was just wonderful.

    I won't bore you with the default answers of "Godfather" or "Shawshank Redemption".

    Just to pick a few different movies that I consider masterful:

    Heat
    The Fountain
    One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
    Fellowship of the Ring
    The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
    Glengarry Glen Ross
  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,329
    Shawshank Redemption, Heat, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Fellowship of the Ring (I'd add the two others too), we have some movies in common after all ;)

    I'm not a big fan of Godfather, not because it's a bad movie, definitely not, but it's not my "kind" of movie, the kind I'd want to see over and over again.

    One of the best recent movies I've seen is Cloud Atlas. I know this won't get many votes of popularity, but I just love that movie. Best thing the two brothers sisters have done since the first Matrix.
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  • DKLondDKLond Member RarePosts: 2,273
    Shawshank Redemption, Heat, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Fellowship of the Ring (I'd add the two others too), we have some movies in common after all ;)

    I'm not a big fan of Godfather, not because it's a bad movie, definitely not, but it's not my "kind" of movie, the kind I'd want to see over and over again.

    One of the best recent movies I've seen is Cloud Atlas. I know this won't get many votes of popularity, but I just love that movie. Best thing the two brothers sisters have done since the first Matrix.
    I tried seeing Cloud Atlas once and fell asleep :)

    That said, it wasn't exactly bad - and I was quite tired. I keep meaning to get back to it and give it a proper chance.
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,182
    edited June 2016
    What amazes me is the stark contrast between old movies such as The Fall of the Roman Empire, Harryhausen films, other historical epics, classic horror etc, and what we get today. I'm not even that old, and I find the difference somewhat staggering, especially on the acting and writing fronts. When visuals weren't a crutch, stories were told in such a different way.

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  • some-clueless-guysome-clueless-guy Member UncommonPosts: 220

    One of the best recent movies I've seen is Cloud Atlas. I know this won't get many votes of popularity, but I just love that movie. Best thing the two brothers sisters have done since the first Matrix.
    The main theme of the movie, the ripples in time that each story caused and how this would affect the future, was for me a letdown, they didn't put enough emphasys on it. Redeeming points are indeed the writer throwing the critic down the balcony to an ending that is flat and inane beyond belied, and mr Meeks (I know, I know).
  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,329
    edited June 2016
    Nurse Noakes... not only Hugo Weaving is just awesome in the role, but there's that "not so hidden" reference to another movie listed on this page too... ;)
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  • delete5230delete5230 Member EpicPosts: 6,512

    6.5 out of 10.....I was disappointed.


  • p4ttythep3rf3ctp4ttythep3rf3ct Member UncommonPosts: 194
    I was expecting crap and turned out loving it!  And yeah, there is apparently a ton of story.  The first 30 minutes felt like story mud, but once I was buckled in the ride was great!  To dissent from the OP, I liked the Khadgar character, but I'm not too familiar with that story.  Never read any books, only really played WoW...that said, I don't think you have to have played WoW to enjoy the movie.  

    That's just, like, my opinion, man.

  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    I think if the "suits" had been calling the shots then the movie would have been made by Sam Mendez.

    Blizzard scrapped that script and - based on interviews that Duncan Jones has given - Blizzard were the ones calling the shots on the script that was made. So love it or loath it t'was down to Blizzard.
  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,329
    gervaise1 said:
    I think if the "suits" had been calling the shots then the movie would have been made by Sam Mendez.

    Blizzard scrapped that script and - based on interviews that Duncan Jones has given - Blizzard were the ones calling the shots on the script that was made. So love it or loath it t'was down to Blizzard.
    Another blind Blizzard bashing without any link or valid source... how original coming from you.
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  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686
    Where the movie succeeded was capturing that Warcraft feeling ... it felt like warcraft. and that brought back so many memmories...  worth every penny i would say... 

    I will definately have to watch it a seccond time as there was so much happening...

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • mbrodiembrodie Member RarePosts: 1,498
    Where the movie succeeded was capturing that Warcraft feeling ... it felt like warcraft. and that brought back so many memmories...  worth every penny i would say... 

    I will definately have to watch it a seccond time as there was so much happening...
    yeah i personally saw it in 3D VMAX and i have to admit the 3D was on point, i think i've said it before in another thread but it bought in just enough depth without being too over bearing or in your face and it really did capture warcraft i'm just kinda of sad there was no tauren yet lol...

    i don't know really i think the movie was worth a lot more than some people would lead you to think, could it have been better sure, could it have been longer definitely, but was it bad... no way, some of the best visuals i've seen in a movie and i honestly hope they make more.
  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    gervaise1 said:
    I think if the "suits" had been calling the shots then the movie would have been made by Sam Mendez.

    Blizzard scrapped that script and - based on interviews that Duncan Jones has given - Blizzard were the ones calling the shots on the script that was made. So love it or loath it t'was down to Blizzard.
    Another blind Blizzard bashing without any link or valid source... how original coming from you.
    What I said above is widely reported and I have provided links previously

    Your suggestion that the film would have done better if it was 20 or 40 minutes long has no links or evidence and totally ignores the basic fact that cinema owners can only show so many films a day (Hint: fewer long films, more short films). 

    Your knee jerk "anyone who doesn't agree with what I say is bashing Blizzard" is blinding you to the point I have been making for months. 

    Warcraft - broadly - did as well as it was going to. The reviews may have hurt it a bit, maybe it would have done better longer - whatever. The fact remains that it was competing with many other big films. For the same gross revenue. And that after the opening weekend there was a little fish to deal with. 

    Go back to what I said earlier in this thread. 

    Not so much a case of whether Warcraft was a good or bad film but simply lots of films for people to see. The little fish has even sunk Independence Day! 

  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,329
    edited June 2016
    gervaise1 said:

    Your suggestion that the film would have done better if it was 20 or 40 minutes long has no links or evidence and totally ignores the basic fact that cinema owners can only show so many films a day (Hint: fewer long films, more short films).
    The difference is that it's just my opinion and I've never pretended otherwise, while you provide your "wishes", fueled by your Blizzard hatred everyone can witness in your post history in every thread about Blizzard you participate in, as facts without any proof.
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  • SirmatthiasSirmatthias Member UncommonPosts: 562
    Even though I liked the film because I grew up with Warcraft. I think the same thing needs to be done to Warcraft as what happened with Batman. Crap after the first 2 batman bring in shitstorm val kilmer and Clooney. think tank takes over and brings in Christian bale and Christopher Nolan to smash it out of the park. 
  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,329
    edited June 2016
    (snip movie)
    Can you spoil me the important point? Can't watch it at work for now.
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  • penandpaperpenandpaper Member UncommonPosts: 174
    DMKano said:
    Volgore said:
    DMKano said:
    Personal score?

    Doesn't have to be all technical just gut feel
    6.5 out of 10. Too much hollywood for a better score, too awesome orcs for a 5.

    Great IP meets Hollywood, most of the time Hollywood wins.

    Hollywood = Formulaic garbage (generally speaking, yes I know there are exceptions )
    Sorry, but I think this trend to bash Hollywood as formulaic needs to stop. 

    With all due respect, please name me another place on the planet where so many creative people exist and work together?  Please stop looking at a few blockbuster movies (the superhero genre is now the primary target, including of some Hollywood stars), and look at the hundreds of other movies present.  If they are formulaic, then start talking to all the authors of the books they turn into movies or shows: Game of Thrones.  Guess Martin is a hack!  The Road.  McCarthy must be formulaic.  Fight Club.  Palanaik (spelling?) is a pattern writer. Nicholas Sparks (not my genre) is a great writer.  If you have not, I encourage you to try one of his books out.  But, he is not a formulaic hack.  Yet, he has many movies based off his books. 

    Let's take books off the table.  The Pirates' franchise.  That is formulaic to you?  Star Wars?  Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?  Every Pixar film ever made?  Disney's long list of animated masterpieces?  Universal, Paramount, Fox, Warner, Columbia?  You're telling me that most of what they do (as you noted there are "exceptions") is formulaic garbage?

    Sorry.  I don't see it.  I understand many of us can predict what is coming up, especially if we're older.  But, just because we have this skill does not make them formulaic.  It makes us wise.  The road of fiction is well travelled, and you will rarely see things not reskinned.  But, it's the story and how it's told that makes the difference.  That's not formula, that is creativity, and Hollywood is awash with it.
  • vandal5627vandal5627 Member UncommonPosts: 788

    This movie sucked bad is all I can say and I'm no Blizzard hater.  Loved all their games from warcraft 1.  The critics were right to bash this movie.  Nice CGIs does not make a good movie just like good graphics doesn't make a good game.
  • SirmatthiasSirmatthias Member UncommonPosts: 562

    Just the first 5 mins I was cringing for Duncan. that guy was a dick.

  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 6,302
    edited June 2016
    DMKano said:
    Volgore said:
    DMKano said:
    Personal score?

    Doesn't have to be all technical just gut feel
    6.5 out of 10. Too much hollywood for a better score, too awesome orcs for a 5.

    Great IP meets Hollywood, most of the time Hollywood wins.

    Hollywood = Formulaic garbage (generally speaking, yes I know there are exceptions )
    Sorry, but I think this trend to bash Hollywood as formulaic needs to stop. 

    With all due respect, please name me another place on the planet where so many creative people exist and work together?  Please stop looking at a few blockbuster movies (the superhero genre is now the primary target, including of some Hollywood stars), and look at the hundreds of other movies present.  If they are formulaic, then start talking to all the authors of the books they turn into movies or shows: Game of Thrones.  Guess Martin is a hack!  The Road.  McCarthy must be formulaic.  Fight Club.  Palanaik (spelling?) is a pattern writer. Nicholas Sparks (not my genre) is a great writer.  If you have not, I encourage you to try one of his books out.  But, he is not a formulaic hack.  Yet, he has many movies based off his books. 

    Let's take books off the table.  The Pirates' franchise.  That is formulaic to you?  Star Wars?  Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?  Every Pixar film ever made?  Disney's long list of animated masterpieces?  Universal, Paramount, Fox, Warner, Columbia?  You're telling me that most of what they do (as you noted there are "exceptions") is formulaic garbage?

    Sorry.  I don't see it.  I understand many of us can predict what is coming up, especially if we're older.  But, just because we have this skill does not make them formulaic.  It makes us wise.  The road of fiction is well travelled, and you will rarely see things not reskinned.  But, it's the story and how it's told that makes the difference.  That's not formula, that is creativity, and Hollywood is awash with it.
    Agree to disagree

    I agree with your examples, but they are the exceptions not the rule.

    Most of the screenplay writing these days really sucks shit. What drives me crazy is when they make a remake of a classic and think they can improve on a great screenplay that made the movie a classic in the first place and totally butcher the story.

    There are still great movies being made, but those are few and far between. I only pay to watch around three films per year and I'm lucky if there are that many worth watching these days.

    There are many wonderful actors and actresses these days, acting has never been better. Many great directors as well. Its the writing that's severely lacking. I like a good story over good effects any day. It's great when the two come together.

    As to Warcraft, I enjoyed the film. It was better than I thought it was going to be, and I look forward to seeing a Directors Cut.


    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • ImpmonImpmon Member UncommonPosts: 81
    As someone who played the original warcrafts I enjoyed the movie for what it was.  Decent popcorn flick that stayed somewhat true to the lore of the old games.  It isn't as bad as critics make it out to be.
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