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Video: A brief update on my delivering the Nostalrius petition to Blizzard and my meeting with Mike

blueturtle13blueturtle13 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,341
edited May 2016 in World of Warcraft
“What Mike wanted to convey was that the technology — while it’s not insurmountable — is definitely more complicated than we’ve made it seem,” Kern acknowledges. “It’s not as easy as throwing up a server like Nostalrius did. Blizzard has a huge infrastructure and a lot of systems that tie into it. Plus they’re very concerned about hitting that quality bar. They want to make sure that anything offer is going to be of exceptionally high quality to match everything else that they’ve done, especially for a flagship product like World of Warcraft.”



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  • scorpex-xscorpex-x Member RarePosts: 1,030
    edited May 2016
    lol@signatures

    Signatures mean nothing, should of setup a kickstarter and gave that money to blizzard to make it.  Then they would of listened.

    If people won't put their money where their mouth is then Blizzard are correct in that they don't really want it.
  • blueturtle13blueturtle13 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,341
    edited May 2016
    Updated to include a section from the video to read for those not interested in actually watching the video.

    Also the Audio is out of sink towards the middle onto the end.

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  • DullahanDullahan Member EpicPosts: 4,534
    At this point Blizzard is in the position where they have to either open vanilla servers or just admit forever they are nothing but money hungry corporate sellouts that give absolutely zero fuks about their fans.


  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,967
    Good vid, well done.  A major company sighing off on a project is like an astrological event, all the planets have to be in proper order before things can proceed.  Meaning a lot of people have to review it and approve it in accordance to corporate politics.  Hopefully things will continue to go well with such a project.

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  • blueturtle13blueturtle13 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,341
    Good vid, well done.  A major company sighing off on a project is like an astrological event, all the planets have to be in proper order before things can proceed.  Meaning a lot of people have to review it and approve it in accordance to corporate politics.  Hopefully things will continue to go well with such a project.
    I think he made an obvious,yet valid, point about Blizzard has a lot on it's plate right now with Overwatch just launching, the movie release, Blizzcon and Legion. So if anything did ever come of this it would be later rather than sooner.

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  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,172
    Not surprising, very obvious...
  • kitaradkitarad Member EpicPosts: 5,934
    Even if Mike may agree it does not mean that these servers are going to happen. It is obvious that they are open to the idea but between agreeing to meet and actually doing it is such a huge gap and companies like these do have concerns no private server operator is going to face. 

    There were quite a few people that seem to think that the Nostalrius had some upper hand owning the code and such but I think these were really not the concerns that Mike had and his real problem is not the private server people at all. In the end Blizzard will if they decide to do this probably go their own people and cannibalize some ideas and work off what archives which they must have in some dusty warehouse. 

    The one thing I agree with is when he talked about the quality of the product they put out. That I think is a question of pride. I mean look at Overwatch everything Blizzard does has that mark of quality and no way are they going to do this unless they can assure that. This is non negotiable. It is fine and dandy to put out crap stuff when you're running a private server but Blizzard "no way Jose".

    I can see where people will say well to hell with quality when your core game has deteriorated so much that the levelling experience is but a shadow of what it once was and hardly challenging at all. This is what they should be changing and granted this should be their focus but they will never put out a sub par product and even if the concept is something they wholeheartedly agree with they will never do this half ass.

  • XiaokiXiaoki Member RarePosts: 3,358
    scorpex-x said:
    lol@signatures

    Signatures mean nothing, should of setup a kickstarter and gave that money to blizzard to make it.  Then they would of listened.

    If people won't put their money where their mouth is then Blizzard are correct in that they don't really want it.
    Yeah, online petitions are worthless.

    Anyone can sign the petition. People with no intention of ever playing a WoW legacy server or WoW at all could sign the petition.

    You won't get Blizzard's attention with an online petition just lip service.
  • blueturtle13blueturtle13 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,341
    edited June 2016
    Actually I don't think lip service will do it either. Look WOW has been around a long time now. It is amazing the game still has the number of players it still does. Blizzard will continue to cater to those that play the game with expansions and leave it at that. People writing petitions, kickstarting money for it nor picketing their offices will convince them to do anything they do not want to do. If they wanted to do it they would. The have not so they will not. I can see the game going free to play long before I would ever see a legacy server. I just do not think the long term money is there to support it. I think people would line up at first but then drop off and never come back. No matter what some people say on a forum or through a signature. I seriously do not think the market is there for it. Not long term. Blizzard plays the long game in business with all their games. A legacy server is not playing the long game.  

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  • spikers14spikers14 Member UncommonPosts: 531
    Thanks for posting that vid. Blizzard does have a lot on their plate, but I don't think they should let this pot simmer too long. 

    Also, pretty sure they did get Blizzard's attention. Maybe it wasn't the sigs that did it, but like Mark said, Mike already knows about the vanila movement. There's enough there to talk about it. I'm not sure why people care to debate that point when the CEO is at least mulling it over. 
  • rush1984rush1984 Member UncommonPosts: 369
    i think they are scared players will enjoy vanilla more than live , well obviously thats already the case  unless you started around cata + and are oblivious to how awesome sauce classic wow was
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    rush1984 said:
    i think they are scared players will enjoy vanilla more than live , well obviously thats already the case  unless you started around cata + and are oblivious to how awesome sauce classic wow was

    First of all, if they're making money, why would they be worried?

    That being said, this petition probably got more signatures than the majority of game petitions I've seen. I think it managed to get, probably, 100 times the signatures of any SWG petition. Plus they had like nearly 1 million accounts, and 150k active players. Put that on a sanctioned server? Shoot, you might get 1 or 2 million active players. 

    Nothing scary about that except the fact that they're throwing away money, lol.

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  • syriinxsyriinx Member UncommonPosts: 1,383
    Dullahan said:
    At this point Blizzard is in the position where they have to either open vanilla servers or just admit forever they are nothing but money hungry corporate sellouts that give absolutely zero fuks about their fans.
    Or that they care more about the people currently playing WoW than the ones no longer playing.

    Time spent implementing these servers is time spent not working on the current game.  


    Its funny how you accuse them of being money hungry by not participating on what has shown in EQ to be an effective cash grab.


    Vanilla servers are a waste of time.  UNLESS they do something more revolutionary, like re-imagine post vanilla WoW.  A WoW 2 of sorts, with vanilla WoW being the start point.  I like stories where I don't know what happens the next chapter far more than ones I do.
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member EpicPosts: 8,536
    edited June 2016
    This will only have two boxes for Blizzard...

    1. Can make a profit that will be worth talking about at the quartly. 
    2. Wont, so no go.


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