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You think the WOW movie will be successful?

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  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872
    filmoret said:
    Volgore said:
    How do we know that Blizzard will neither somehow inflate box office numbers or find a way to not publish them?

    It's not like both didn't happen in the past ;)
    This is something that cannot be hidden or inflated.  Theatres are followed closely by a lot of eyes.  You can keep things quiet when it comes to video games but when it comes to films it cannot be hidden.
    I get you :)
    I was just kidding, because these guys are usually total control freaks and have this obsession with tweaking their numbers.

    They must be having nightmares right now about the b/o numbers being beyond their control.

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  • giffy689giffy689 Member UncommonPosts: 66
    Travis Fimmel a.k.a. Ragnar from Vikings tv series is in this  =)
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,292
    Haven't read the whole thread... but after seeing the first commercials... this is going to be an utter bomb.   It's a shame as I thought they would get the resources to make a really great fantasy movie.  What we seem to be getting is a large cutscene.

    BLEH...

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  • observerobserver Member RarePosts: 3,685
    edited May 2016
    It'll be average, and turn out to be like Masters of the Universe, with crappy acting and plots.  It'll be panned by critics, deservedly so.  The mixture of live-action and CGI characters is going to be horrible.  For instance, Garona.  She just looks terrible, as if she belongs in a B-rated flick from the 1980s.

    The only people that will probably enjoy it, will  be comic-con enthusiasts, comic/manga/anime audience, sci-fi/fantasy audience, video gamers, blizzard fanboys/fangirls.  It won't capture interest from the mainstream public.
  • AoriAori Member EpicPosts: 4,180
    Lokero said:

    PS: so people critic the heavy use of CGI? How do you think one can create living orcs nowadays, with foam latex costumes? If the CGI is just half as good as the one from Avatar, it will be impressive. And it's Industrial Light and Magic who do the effects, that's already an assurance of quality.
    It depends on exactly what all they decide to use CGI for.  The Orcs would have been very hard to do (as involved in the movie as they are) without CGI, so I wouldn't consider it fair to critique that.  However, I would point to LotR's Uruk-hai as proof that you can do damn excellent Orc-like characters and armies without merely drawing them with a computer.  CGI should always be the last option.

    Animatronics and traditional special effects achieve a much better result in many areas due to simply having an actual physical mass on-screen that can be interacted with by actors and the environment.  And these effects, too, have come a very long way from Jurassic Park (which is still considered a great example of how much animatronics and non-computer generated special effects can elevate a movie beyond what merely copping out to CGI wholesale can achieve).

    So, if the use of CGI is so prevalent it sends a message that the director used it as an excuse to do less work, it'll deserve critique.  If they reserve it strictly for scenes that cannot be told with any other option, it'll deserve praise.  

    As an aside, I must be the only person in the world who saw Avatar as merely a CGI Pocahontas.  I'm still surprised Disney didn't do some saber-rattling when James Cameron released his "original" film.
    CGI is an incredibly deep and iffy subject.  You take something like Toy Story animation and it's pretty amazing.  However, when you are blending it with real actors and world, it can quickly become horrible and obvious.

    And, yeah, I'd much prefer actual orc makeup and costuming(such as in LOTR movies), to CGI.  But, it really depends on the type of characters you are going for.

    The Avatar characters were incredibly tall and had strange physiques, so even with real makeup and such, they still would have needed to use CGI.

    I'm not to up-to-date on the WC movie's requirements(are the orcs supposed to be massive giants or something?), but in general, any time you can use real effects over CGI, that's how it should be done.

    Really, with the budget they probably had for this film, there's no excuse for either being a problem.  They can afford the highest quality CGI, and they could have afforded full wardrobe and costuming for an entire orc army.
    Orcs in LOTR were mostly the same size as Humans. Orcs in Warcraft are 2-3 times the size of Humans. Also the Orcs in Warcraft have a lot more lines and screentime than the Orcs of LOTR.
  • RogoshRogosh Member UncommonPosts: 207
    I dont think it will be top box office of the year but it will make money.

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  • AoriAori Member EpicPosts: 4,180
    observer said:
    It'll be average, and turn out to be like Masters of the Universe, with crappy acting and plots.  It'll be panned by critics, deservedly so.  The mixture of live-action and CGI characters is going to be horrible.  For instance, Garona.  She just looks terrible, as if she belongs in a B-rated flick from the 1980s.

    The only people that will probably enjoy it, will  be comic-con enthusiasts, comic/manga/anime audience, sci-fi/fantasy audience, video gamers, blizzard fanboys/fangirls.  It won't capture interest from the mainstream public.
    You're the first person I've seen badmouth Paula Pattons Garona. I've seen people badmouth everything else but not Garona.
  • LokeroLokero Member RarePosts: 1,514
    Haven't read the whole thread... but after seeing the first commercials... this is going to be an utter bomb.   It's a shame as I thought they would get the resources to make a really great fantasy movie.  What we seem to be getting is a large cutscene.

    BLEH...
    I have to admit, even though I'm interested in seeing the movie, I really wasn't impressed or inspired by the previews at all.

    observer said:
    It'll be average, and turn out to be like Masters of the Universe, with crappy acting and plots.  It'll be panned by critics, deservedly so.  The mixture of live-action and CGI characters is going to be horrible.  For instance, Garona.  She just looks terrible, as if she belongs in a B-rated flick from the 1980s.

    The only people that will probably enjoy it, will  be comic-con enthusiasts, comic/manga/anime audience, sci-fi/fantasy audience, video gamers, blizzard fanboys/fangirls.  It won't capture interest from the mainstream public.

    That's sort of the expectations I have, as well.  I think it'll be a successful film just because of how many fans the franchise has, but I don't think it'll be a high-scoring film in the ratings department.  They'll make their money back on name alone, but I don't think it's going to have the masses flocking to the theatres to see it multiple times or anything.

    Then again, with all the other horrible CGI movies releasing recently, there's always the chance it'll win by simple comparison :anguished:   You know... movies like the TMNT and Transformers, and so on... *shiver*
  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,232
    observer said:
    It'll be average, and turn out to be like Masters of the Universe, with crappy acting and plots.  It'll be panned by critics, deservedly so.  The mixture of live-action and CGI characters is going to be horrible.  For instance, Garona.  She just looks terrible, as if she belongs in a B-rated flick from the 1980s.

    The only people that will probably enjoy it, will  be comic-con enthusiasts, comic/manga/anime audience, sci-fi/fantasy audience, video gamers, blizzard fanboys/fangirls.  It won't capture interest from the mainstream public.

    Being panned by critics is a bad thing?  That is pretty much every summer blockbuster....
  • Saur0n69Saur0n69 Member UncommonPosts: 44
    The movie will do well for the same reason the game did well, there's millions of brain dead Blizzard fanboys who will eat whatever crap Blizzard puts out with a smile on their faces.
  • observerobserver Member RarePosts: 3,685
    Aori said:
    observer said:
    It'll be average, and turn out to be like Masters of the Universe, with crappy acting and plots.  It'll be panned by critics, deservedly so.  The mixture of live-action and CGI characters is going to be horrible.  For instance, Garona.  She just looks terrible, as if she belongs in a B-rated flick from the 1980s.

    The only people that will probably enjoy it, will  be comic-con enthusiasts, comic/manga/anime audience, sci-fi/fantasy audience, video gamers, blizzard fanboys/fangirls.  It won't capture interest from the mainstream public.
    You're the first person I've seen badmouth Paula Pattons Garona. I've seen people badmouth everything else but not Garona.
    I'm probably being unfair.  I'm judging her in contrast to the CGI aspect of the movie.  It just doesn't mesh well.  She looks too "real" compared to the other orcs and it breaks immersion.  It's almost like they didn't study the "uncanny valley" problem.
  • NightHaveNNightHaveN Member UncommonPosts: 1,051
    Anireth said:
    Given that there is no WoW movie, no, i don't think it will be successful.
    Time is relative.  

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  • kartoolkartool Member UncommonPosts: 519
    It will be one of the highest grossing movies of the year. Look at it from outside the MMO community, it's the kind of movie that will be a blockbuster hit as long as the story is decent and the fight scenes are glorious.
  • Kayo83Kayo83 Member UncommonPosts: 399
    Who knows? They really nailed the setting and it looks amazing visually but I get the feeling itll just be another  eye-porn action flick with 1 dimensional characters, bad to 'ok' writing, and a boring predictable storyline. Ill like it better if I go in expecting that and focus on how pretty everything is. At worst itll lead charts for a weekend or two then everyone will forget about it.
  • kjempffkjempff Member RarePosts: 1,657
    I don't think it will attract many who hasn't played WoW or warcraft3.
    The question is, how many tickets needs to be sold to break even?
    What percentage of players (past&present) will buy tickets?
  • AoriAori Member EpicPosts: 4,180
    observer said:
    Aori said:
    observer said:
    It'll be average, and turn out to be like Masters of the Universe, with crappy acting and plots.  It'll be panned by critics, deservedly so.  The mixture of live-action and CGI characters is going to be horrible.  For instance, Garona.  She just looks terrible, as if she belongs in a B-rated flick from the 1980s.

    The only people that will probably enjoy it, will  be comic-con enthusiasts, comic/manga/anime audience, sci-fi/fantasy audience, video gamers, blizzard fanboys/fangirls.  It won't capture interest from the mainstream public.
    You're the first person I've seen badmouth Paula Pattons Garona. I've seen people badmouth everything else but not Garona.
    I'm probably being unfair.  I'm judging her in contrast to the CGI aspect of the movie.  It just doesn't mesh well.  She looks too "real" compared to the other orcs and it breaks immersion.  It's almost like they didn't study the "uncanny valley" problem.
    I thought the Orcs look pretty real.. the dialogue between Ogrim and Durotan looked so natural. Also you can't compare Garona to the Orcs, she is a unique existence.
  • NightHaveNNightHaveN Member UncommonPosts: 1,051
    Many people still don't realize how different Warcraft IP is compared to other previous game movies that have been released so far.  Warcraft started back in 1994, and through all those years Blizzard have been adding story and expanding the franchise.  There is a lot of source material to be used.  A lot.  Maybe comparable to superhero source material in that aspect.

    But other movies, well let see....

    1. Doom -> Killing monsters in hell... well how do you got in hell in the first place.  Why do you want to return to it?????  See the point!

    2. Dungeons & Dragons ->  A rule set that defines some classes and some fights, with stories written all around by different writers, but no universal world.

    3.  House of the Dead -> Shooting zombies in a house... what was the backstory in that one?

    4. Mortal Kombat / Street Fighter -> Tournaments... yep mindless fighting... at least MK has some backstory.

    5. Angry Birds -> the newest one and don't make me go there.

    6. Resident Evil -> The only franchise that actually have an interesting backstory that could fit movies, and sequels.

    That doesn't mean the movie will be a hit, or will be well made.  But has more potential than any other game movie that has been released so far.
  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    Will X-Men Apocalypse be a hit? Well its 2014 predecessor is at number 71 in the All Time list so you would think so right? In reality it won't be an easy ride. It is up against the sequel to the All Time number 21 - that took more money in 2010 dollars than it did. And both are bigger than The Jungle Book - which just wiped out all other April and early May films (took more money than the other 74 April releases in the US). That is the type of summer 2016 is when it comes to films.


  • NightHaveNNightHaveN Member UncommonPosts: 1,051
    And in terms of movie competition the only 2 movies close to it are TMMT and Finding Dory which both are (1) Sequels, and (2) Dory is aimed for kids.   The others go 2 weeks later, plenty of time for word to spread and people watch the movie if is any good.

    I personally will wait for critics before diving in.
  • Solar_ProphetSolar_Prophet Member EpicPosts: 1,956
    The Doom movie was mediocre, the Dungeon and Dragon one was pure crap (hopefully the reboot will be worth seeing).

    But Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (2001) is a great, very poetic movie. I love it and I regularly watch my Blu-Ray disc. Sure the animations aren't as good as Avatar, but that was 8 years before.

    The Resident Evil movies are mindless fun, just as expected from such a franchise.

    Prince of Persia was a decent swashbuckler, no doubt Warcraft can only be better.

    Blizzard has an habit of delivering quality products. I'll give this movie a chance before I put it in the box of other video game adaptation failures. The lore of Warcraft is huge and complex, there's material to make amazing movies from it.

    PS: so people critic the heavy use of CGI? How do you think one can create living orcs nowadays, with foam latex costumes? If the CGI is just half as good as the one from Avatar, it will be impressive. And it's Industrial Light and Magic who do the effects, that's already an assurance of quality.
    The Doom movie was good for about 4 minutes near the end. That's it. Hopefully if they ever do another one, they'll film most of it in first person, like Hardcore Henry. They had damn well better get Karl Urban to play Doomguy again too. 

    The Dungeons and Dragons movie was utter crap... but it's also one of the most entertainingly bad films I've ever seen. Jeremy Irons is absolutely fucking hilarious. I have never seen overacting that's so much fun to watch, before or since. You can tell he had a lot of fun with the role, and that feeling is positively infectious. It's a film that should leave you shaking your head in disgust, but you're too busy laughing at all the scenery being chewed. I highly recommend it for anybody who loves stuff like MST3K or Rifftrax. 

    Spirits Within was... well, let's just agree to disagree on that one, lol. 

    Resident Evil's first movie was okay. The second movie was a much better adaptation of the story. It didn't take itself too seriously like the first one did, and had much better writing. The third movie was just terrible, and they've been terrible ever since. I'm a fan of Milla Jovovich as an action hero (Ultraviolet was awesome), and even she couldn't save them. 

    Never saw Prince of Persia. 

    As far as CGI goes, it's not the quality that makes it look terrible. It's the fact that the orcs are done in the classic Warcraft style, with heavily exaggerated features and somewhat unrealistic body proportions. The humans are live actors, not the equally exaggerated Warcraft style humans. It just looks like absolute garbage when they're on screen together, especially since orcs for some reason are almost ogre-sized. They're not integrated well at all. 

    The Warcraft film should'be either been done all live action with CGI enhancements as needed (such as , or all CGI. The latter would've been ideal, given the amazing quality of Blizzard's work in that medium. I really don't know what they were thinking. 

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  • observerobserver Member RarePosts: 3,685


    As far as CGI goes, it's not the quality that makes it look terrible. It's the fact that the orcs are done in the classic Warcraft style, with heavily exaggerated features and somewhat unrealistic body proportions. The humans are live actors, not the equally exaggerated Warcraft style humans. It just looks like absolute garbage when they're on screen together, especially since orcs for some reason are almost ogre-sized. They're not integrated well at all. 

    The Warcraft film should'be either been done all live action with CGI enhancements as needed (such as , or all CGI. The latter would've been ideal, given the amazing quality of Blizzard's work in that medium. I really don't know what they were thinking. 
    Agreed.  You said it better than i did.  The orcs look alright, but when mixed with regular humans, the whole thing just looks wrong.  It destroys the immersion.
  • k61977k61977 Member RarePosts: 1,326
    After seeing many different previews I just wish they had done it in house as a CGI movie.  It would have looked better than trying to mix in the CGI with live action.

    I will go see the movie just because I am a big lore fan.  Hopefully they kept to the original script and don't try to change to much.
  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,142
    From what I understand, Warcraft movie is like Dragon Ball movie, in that they changed the story but kept names from the IP. thats a turn off right away.

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  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,142
    Loke666 said:
    About the same as the Dungeons and dragons movie, it will be popular with fans but wont impress regular movie-goers.

    Azeroth is made for gaming, it isn't really optimal for the silver screen. Westeros and middle earth is made to focus on one single story, gaming worlds are more about telling many small stories and for that matter are those stories things that are far more fun to do then watch someone else do.

    I don't think any world made for computer games would work very well in a movie, Wing commander is still the best one in my book.

    Pen and paper RPGs should be easier since the worlds are more flexible, but very little have been made there as well. There was a so-so Vampire series that got canned when the star got killed in an accident and the rather good "gamer" movies by Dead gentlemen productions but besdies that we seen little good there either. I am surprised no-one made a Forgotten realms movie though.
    I disagree, since Warcraft story is 80% Lord of the Rings clone, it does have story elements that can be focused for the movie. 
    Such as the First War, Second War and Third War. 2 Movies each War alone can do. 

    Also lets not forget the Elf War, and the modern wars. 

    Warcraft has many points to focus in a story on. 

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  • ThupliThupli Member RarePosts: 1,318

    I think they are counting on old accounts to watch this. I think they are wrong with that hope. We will see.


    if the trailer is any indicator, there will be no plot.

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