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  • MikeBMikeB Community ManagerAdministrator RarePosts: 6,484
    Recore said:
    I do have a request.

    Can you all make it so we can actually create threads in the Bless Online forum? 


    We didn't have a forum for this one, but we do now.

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  • freakkyfreakky Member UncommonPosts: 113
    edited April 2016
    Sorry have to agree many of the articles are maybe self censored bias towards the game companies then to the user. Understand the site makes money on ads, so it wouldn't be in "mmorpg" best interest to not bash games with an honest hard review. Youtubers offer more of honest review of games. Video reviews are king these days too. Unless you have a really skillful writer.

    Good lucks and have fun. 
  • reeereeereeereee Member UncommonPosts: 1,636
    Wizardry said:
    I am not talking about straight up advertising,we know what to expect there as there are laws to govern that as well as unfair marketing laws.I would talk more about misleading articles and reviews where their REAL agenda is to generate $$$ and NOT articles based on passionate gaming.
    Sounds like someone read a positive article about a game he hates. 
  • observerobserver Member RarePosts: 3,685
    edited April 2016
    The way i see it, is that the genre is in a slump, so there's not new material for new titles, except for update notes and expansion details.

    If it were to focus on just MMO's, it would be covering games that are 5+ years old already.  GW2, ESO, FFXIV, etc..  are all nearing around 3-4 years old already.  The newest games are asian titles such as AA and BDO.  The only upcoming major titles are kickstarter projects such as Crowfall and Star Citizen.

    I don't mind single player games being covered, as long as they have some form of RPG elements to them.
  • MisterZebubMisterZebub Member LegendaryPosts: 3,584
    Been lurking or posting on this site for many a year and I have no issues with how the site is run, or what the staff chooses for content. And also over the years here interacting with many of said staff, I feel that not only are they passionate gamers, they are also quite a decent group of people. So I really don't understand where the OPs anger at this site is coming from. My advice would be if you don't like the way the place is run and think you can do better? Put your money where your mouth is and either start your own site, blog, or even try to get articles officially published here.

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  • cronius77cronius77 Member UncommonPosts: 1,634
    no offense to the staff trying to keep this site unbiased but I think before admins should take into consideration any criticism about this site they should look at the posters history. Lets be honest here there is a VERY and I mean VERY vocal sub community here that pretty much hates every game being released today and is in search of that perfect mmorpg that is never going to happen. They hate themeparks on this site, they hate open world pvp, they hate graphics, they hate story etc. The culture here on this site honestly seems to be to hate everything released nowadays. Nothing is ever good enough and nothing is ever worth anything to certain people. I think the issue is people and companies have changed but some of the gamers are still living under a rock and not adapting to the new culture. While there is nothing wrong with standing up for what you believe in, I think hating everything is just going to stress yourself out and your going to be bitter. I think people just cannot seem to move on from hobbies very much even though they hate the current versions.
  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Former Managing EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 4,560
    freakky said:
    Sorry have to agree many of the articles are maybe self censored bias towards the game companies then to the user. Understand the site makes money on ads, so it wouldn't be in "mmorpg" best interest to not bash games with an honest hard review. Youtubers offer more of honest review of games. Video reviews are king these days too. Unless you have a really skillful writer.

    Actually, you'd be surprised how many YT folks are paid to endorse a game and don't announce it. It's like organized crime for nerds. 

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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,657
    I like the site has branched out and included more types of games. I would like to see that trend continue. How we play games and genre types are evolving. This is an area that has improved a lot over the years.

    There are some areas that I think could be improved. Author participation is always a big plus. The quality of some writers has been hit and miss, but I think that is normal. The core writing staff has been very solid in my opinion.

    The main site really needs its update. Not much to say there other than I'll be glad when it happens. The new forums are a huge improvement, despite some kinks, and do continue to improve.

    I don't think I have low standards either. I just don't expect perfection. To me, the effort is real and the result is good so I don't agree with the OP in general.
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  • AoriAori Member EpicPosts: 4,160
    I've lurked this site for a long time, I didn't start getting involved with the community until they started branching out more, around D3 release was when they started getting really gung ho. In fact I didn't even visit the site on a regular basis.

    Now I'm quite fond of the place. The people are sketchy and the village has one to many idiots but it feels like home.
  • MegilindirMegilindir Member UncommonPosts: 219
    Honestly i dont give a single care about what they post.As long as my weekly reviews ( i check this website everyday for at least an hour even if i dont type many comments and i embrace this concept like a 1960 dad embraces his newspaper) are there i just enjoy them."Let the people do what they do" i think when the subject is money, like the other side of the world is not corrupt and like this world is not based on corruption itself.Meh.

    I wouldnt mind if they took large amounts of money for paid reviews.One can see the difference within the article regarding honesty if reads deeply enough. ( its a gaming site ffs )

    I like the site, appreciate people doing their work and never ever thought of complaining about something.
    Unlike @Wizardry which in time became one of the most negative members i believe.And this belief is not based on some short term observation, im talking of months and months, years and years of  posts.

    I dont mean any offense but since i dont actively write here in this site, i just wanted to get it out.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 33,896
    Well if there was a better site that focused more on MMORPGs and less on games I'd be there in a flash.

    It's just they're out of business as MMORPGs have gone out of style.  :p

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  • blueturtle13blueturtle13 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,823
    Kyleran said:
    Well if there was a better site that focused more on MMORPGs and less on games I'd be there in a flash.

    It's just they're out of business as MMORPGs have gone out of style.  :p
    There are a few. I post to them regular.

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 12,895
    It's my favorite gaming site by far so I have absolutely zero problem with the expanded coverage. The name of the site is MMORPG.com but that's just a legacy issue and literal-minded people just need to get over that.

    I especially love the coverage here of single player, co-op or minimally multi player RPGs and even those genre bending RPG-lite games that are not so easy to pin down.

    I do see the lunatic fringe posts subtly or not so subtly alleging pay for review shenanigans. Not surprising really since the whole gamergate thing insinuates itself into all gaming sites these days. But all gaming sites have chaff from posters. At least here it's moderated to a dull grumbling.

    The staff here is professional and very reasonable in their reviews and forum participation. As an old dead-head I'll just say keep on truckin.
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  • observerobserver Member RarePosts: 3,685
    Torval said:

    The main site really needs its update. Not much to say there other than I'll be glad when it happens. The new forums are a huge improvement, despite some kinks, and do continue to improve.

    The site definitely needs an upgrade.  I've been here since around 2004 and i think it's only changed once or twice, which were subtle changes anyway.  I can't say i'm a fan of the new forums though. [insert old smiley with thumb]
  • blueturtle13blueturtle13 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,823
    Iselin said:
    It's my favorite gaming site by far so I have absolutely zero problem with the expanded coverage. The name of the site is MMORPG.com but that's just a legacy issue and literal-minded people just need to get over that.

    I especially love the coverage here of single player, co-op or minimally multi player RPGs and even those genre bending RPG-lite games that are not so easy to pin down.

    I do see the lunatic fringe posts subtly or not so subtly alleging pay for review shenanigans. Not surprising really since the whole gamergate thing insinuates itself into all gaming sites these days. But all gaming sites have chaff from posters. At least here it's moderated to a dull grumbling.

    The staff here is professional and very reasonable in their reviews and forum participation. As an old dead-head I'll just say keep on truckin.
    Well said. This is in my top 5 sites for sure. I think it is great more than just MMORPGs are being covered.
    I think this staff does a bang up job. There is an occasional contradiction in moderation but at the same time every one is human, including the staff. Some people forget the human element I think.
    I have made some great friends in the community who are now my friends on Xbox Live,Steam, EQ2 and Offline.
    The need to monetize the site has garnered more negative attention than is warranted. The site needs to make money. It is not an IGN or Gamespot which are owned by large companies.   
    Keep it up guys!    

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  • blueturtle13blueturtle13 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,823
    freakky said:
    Sorry have to agree many of the articles are maybe self censored bias towards the game companies then to the user. Understand the site makes money on ads, so it wouldn't be in "mmorpg" best interest to not bash games with an honest hard review. Youtubers offer more of honest review of games. Video reviews are king these days too. Unless you have a really skillful writer.

    Actually, you'd be surprised how many YT folks are paid to endorse a game and don't announce it. It's like organized crime for nerds. 
    It is actually no worse than gaming sites or tech sites being paid for a review. The BBC even did a story on it a while back. Gaming and Tech sites are just more subtle about it.

    Also "It's like organized crime for Geeks" there fixed that for ya

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  • RhoklawRhoklaw Member EpicPosts: 6,525
    Well, over the past 6 months, I've been growing my hair out. Does that mean I've changed as a person? No. I just have longer hair. People might think I'm a beach bum / hippie now, but that's simply judging a book by it's cover.

    And a wise man once told me, a real friend likes you for who you are, not how you look. But if you judge your friends for passing judgement on you. You're not only judging yourself, you're judging your friends for judging you and that would be using bad judgement.

    So yeah, I hope that clears everything up for everyone.

  • justmemyselfandijustmemyselfandi Member UncommonPosts: 559
    I just want Stradden back.
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  • Tasslehoff35Tasslehoff35 Member UncommonPosts: 962
    I personally think post like the OP are actually part of the bigger issue in gaming.  We have these people some are part of the entitlement generation and some old school who have come up with this thought that game developers or website employees need to call them to get their input.  I for one never will understand this mentality.  I'm not saying feedback is bad I'm saying when it goes beyond feedback like the OP clearly did its an issue in my opinion.  
  • blueturtle13blueturtle13 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,823
    I personally think post like the OP are actually part of the bigger issue in gaming.  We have these people some are part of the entitlement generation and some old school who have come up with this thought that game developers or website employees need to call them to get their input.  I for one never will understand this mentality.  I'm not saying feedback is bad I'm saying when it goes beyond feedback like the OP clearly did its an issue in my opinion.  
    OT
    what is up with Bars on peoples pictures?

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  • Tasslehoff35Tasslehoff35 Member UncommonPosts: 962
    I personally think post like the OP are actually part of the bigger issue in gaming.  We have these people some are part of the entitlement generation and some old school who have come up with this thought that game developers or website employees need to call them to get their input.  I for one never will understand this mentality.  I'm not saying feedback is bad I'm saying when it goes beyond feedback like the OP clearly did its an issue in my opinion.  
    OT
    what is up with Bars on peoples pictures?
    I was bad...or the mods thought I was bad there are some people on here they protect but that's off topic and I don't expect them to call me and explain it I just deal with the bars...and an occasional red avatar lol. 
  • blueturtle13blueturtle13 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,823
    I personally think post like the OP are actually part of the bigger issue in gaming.  We have these people some are part of the entitlement generation and some old school who have come up with this thought that game developers or website employees need to call them to get their input.  I for one never will understand this mentality.  I'm not saying feedback is bad I'm saying when it goes beyond feedback like the OP clearly did its an issue in my opinion.  
    OT
    what is up with Bars on peoples pictures?
    I was bad...or the mods thought I was bad there are some people on here they protect but that's off topic and I don't expect them to call me and explain it I just deal with the bars...and an occasional red avatar lol. 
    Anyone with a revered name as that should never have bars! =)

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  • Tasslehoff35Tasslehoff35 Member UncommonPosts: 962
    I personally think post like the OP are actually part of the bigger issue in gaming.  We have these people some are part of the entitlement generation and some old school who have come up with this thought that game developers or website employees need to call them to get their input.  I for one never will understand this mentality.  I'm not saying feedback is bad I'm saying when it goes beyond feedback like the OP clearly did its an issue in my opinion.  
    OT
    what is up with Bars on peoples pictures?
    I was bad...or the mods thought I was bad there are some people on here they protect but that's off topic and I don't expect them to call me and explain it I just deal with the bars...and an occasional red avatar lol. 
    Anyone with a revered name as that should never have bars! =)
    I agree!  
  • postlarvalpostlarval Member EpicPosts: 2,003
    I personally think post like the OP are actually part of the bigger issue in gaming.  We have these people some are part of the entitlement generation and some old school who have come up with this thought that game developers or website employees need to call them to get their input.  I for one never will understand this mentality.  I'm not saying feedback is bad I'm saying when it goes beyond feedback like the OP clearly did its an issue in my opinion.  
    Well, I agree.

    I really wish developers would stop all this nonsense and go back to the time when they would develop a game without engaging the "community". No early access, no iterative development with players.

    I miss the days when you anticipated a title until it was released, you bought it, played it, and you either loved the game game or hated it. No months or years of constant bickering and constant changes triggered by listening to these people. As if players know what the hell they're talking about anyway. This is what happens when schools tell children, "You can achieve anything!", but that's a discussion for another time.

    I remember reading an interview with Nick Raskulinecz, the record producer, who said one of the great things about music and computers was the ability to significantly reduce the cost of production. However, one of the bad things was it enabled people who had no business being musicians or in the music industry to become stars. I'm starting to think early access has caused the same issue in game development.
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  • garrettgarrett MMORPG.COM Staff UncommonPosts: 284
    I've been coming to this site since 2004 and writing/working here since 2005. We all work hard looking for good games. If you follow the game industry (as we all do) for the past decade it went from MMOs, to Mobile, to MOBA, to right now esports (yes I know MOBAs are esports). I just came back from PAX and that is the trend. The best thing about MMOs is that they have spawned so many great ideas into other games. Now almost every game has to deal with the menu that MMOs created years ago. They are trying to win players and keep them. 

    It has always been our job to find great games that we think MMO players would like. RPGs are a huge part of our industry and there was a time when we did not touch them. However, RPG is still in our title and after a long time we took the leap to start coverage. As a player I put down MMOs all the time to try a new RPG then go back to the MMO. My bet is that all of us do that. 

    I also think the trend will swing back where MMOs are growing again. The rise of so many indie MMO titles out there are shaping what games we will play over the next few years. 

    So yes, we are a game site that focuses in Online Games and RPGs. That covers a lot of ground in 2016 than it did back in 2003. We can promise one thing, we will look for the best games that we think MMO players will enjoy. 

     :p 
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