Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

So Private Server Nostalrius Petition Gets Over 200,000 Signatures

2

Comments

  • KahrekKahrek Member UncommonPosts: 68
    scorpex-x said:
    Nilden said:
    the ''private server'' was free right ?

    imo it just mean peoples enjoy free to play games and they like wow
    That's funny I don't play on private servers and would pay to play on offical legacy servers but blizzard just doesn't want my money.
    They do, you don't get to tell them what to do with their game is all.


    If people want your money they should at least lend an ear to what you are saying. Of course you cannot force a business to produce a product just how you want it except that any business who just ignores their potential customer base is.... shortsighted at best.

    Making your wants known to a supplier is the best way to actually get what you want. For the supplier customer feedback, even if eventually ignored, is great information about their customers.

    Cheers,
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591

    SBFord said:
    Given that the petition can easily be signed more than once, that 200k is irrelevant. *shrugs* With Overwatch and Legion this year, the discussion is not going to happen.
    That can be true with pretty much any petition. Petitions are valid and relevant if your pro.... invalid and irrelevant if your against.

    The important thing about Mark Kern conversing with Mike Morhaime is that we will get a response.

    Silence is the easy way out.   

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227
    laserit said:



    The important thing about Mark Kern conversing with Mike Morhaime is that we will get a response.

     

    Will we...? 

    And will the community accept if the answer if it is a simple.. No. 

    This have been a good conversation

  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,430
    200k petition isn't really worth the paper/electrons it's signatures are on.  It's not that it isn't significant, but Blizzard is looking at hundreds of millions of dollars for the nex X number of years.  All decisions will be based off of that and not on populist petitions.

    However, it will put a bug in his ear and he'll give it some consideration in the light of the above paragraph, which is probably a step, although a very very small one.

    I self identify as a monkey.

  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    I love how people like to say that nobody can tell them how to spend their money yet they expect to tell blizzard what to do with their game.




  • azurreiazurrei Member UncommonPosts: 332
    mgilbrtsn said:
    200k petition isn't really worth the paper/electrons it's signatures are on.  It's not that it isn't significant, but Blizzard is looking at hundreds of millions of dollars for the nex X number of years.  All decisions will be based off of that and not on populist petitions.

    However, it will put a bug in his ear and he'll give it some consideration in the light of the above paragraph, which is probably a step, although a very very small one.
    agreed... and as much as I don't care whether a vanilla server exists or not (give people what they want imo) - I understand why Blizzard doesn't officially support it.  It is the same reason why WoW 2 will probably never happen until WoW is on life support from a subscriber standpoint - Blizzard doesn't want to spilt the playerbase (just look at the mega hit for its time EQ and what happened when EQ2 released...there were other issues why it didn't go so well but splitting the players up was a major part of it.)
  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    edited April 2016
    Deekins said:
    Like I said in other threads about this. I just don't see Blizzard making any kind of legacy server. Even if they did. I don't think it would do that great. The game is never as one remembers. You can't recapture that feeling you had first playing the game. 

    Money is time, and setting all of it up cost them money, then when the inevitable happens and the population starts dropping off, they then have to merge servers. More money and time than. It just isn't worth it to them.

    On a scale of 1-10, 10 being Blizzard caring the most about making a legacy server. I'm pretty sure Blizzard is setting around -10. They would of made one by now if they even cared the slightest. It has been asked for for how many years now? And nothing.

    And as others have stated, you can sign that petition repeatedly, who's to say that some just didn't spam the signature page. 200k for a petition that can be signed repeatedly isn't anything magical.
    If a few fans managed to put up a vanilla server it can't possibly cost Blizzard that much work and money. And they did manage to get a pretty impressive number of players so I am pretty sure Blizzard would earn money on it.
  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,430
    Loke666 said:
    Deekins said:
    Like I said in other threads about this. I just don't see Blizzard making any kind of legacy server. Even if they did. I don't think it would do that great. The game is never as one remembers. You can't recapture that feeling you had first playing the game. 

    Money is time, and setting all of it up cost them money, then when the inevitable happens and the population starts dropping off, they then have to merge servers. More money and time than. It just isn't worth it to them.

    On a scale of 1-10, 10 being Blizzard caring the most about making a legacy server. I'm pretty sure Blizzard is setting around -10. They would of made one by now if they even cared the slightest. It has been asked for for how many years now? And nothing.

    And as others have stated, you can sign that petition repeatedly, who's to say that some just didn't spam the signature page. 200k for a petition that can be signed repeatedly isn't anything magical.
    If a few fans managed to put up a vanilla server it can't possibly cost Blizzard that much work and money. And they did manage to get a pretty impressive number of players so I am pretty sure Blizzard would earn money on it.
    It's not a matter of whether it's costs them or even if they can turn a profit on a vanilla server.  The computations are much more complicated.  how many people will stop playing WoW proper to go to Vanilla.  If people playing vanilla are paying a nominal amount, what's the difference?  Now, all those people who moved to vanilla, aren't gonna be buying any expansions... how does that affect the dollar difference?

    I think people have a very simplistic view of the economics of it.  It's not a simple 1+1 equation.  

    I self identify as a monkey.

  • CelciusCelcius Member RarePosts: 1,873
    edited April 2016
    Nothing will come of this. Blizzard doesn't give a damn about a petition, nor should they. I understand there are a lot of people upset because they lost the ability to play on Nost, I feel for you, I really do. It sucks losing your MMO home. The fact of the matter is, however, that Blizzard owns Warcraft and they can do whatever they damn well please with it. You won't be getting your official vanilla server and you certainly won't get it by signing some petition; 200k signatures or 1million. It does not make a difference. 

    Nothing good would come of this for Blizzard either. Let's say they make a Vanilla server. What happens when people get bored of that content? Do they throw in TBC? Do they just let the server die? What about PvP and PvE balance which was clearly broke as hell in Vanilla? 

    And here is the big one: What about the people playing the live game right now on the current expansion who could potentially migrate to a vanilla server and never buy another expansion? 

    Not to mention that the number of people playing on Nost does not mean that many people would be willing to pay 15$ a month for access. Sure, maybe they want a vanilla server (which btw just playing on Nost doesn't automatically mean it is what they want, it's just the only formerly available good free wow server) but that does not mean they are willing to pay for it. 
  • axtrantiaxtranti Member UncommonPosts: 97
    mgilbrtsn said:
    Loke666 said:
    Deekins said:
    Like I said in other threads about this. I just don't see Blizzard making any kind of legacy server. Even if they did. I don't think it would do that great. The game is never as one remembers. You can't recapture that feeling you had first playing the game. 

    Money is time, and setting all of it up cost them money, then when the inevitable happens and the population starts dropping off, they then have to merge servers. More money and time than. It just isn't worth it to them.

    On a scale of 1-10, 10 being Blizzard caring the most about making a legacy server. I'm pretty sure Blizzard is setting around -10. They would of made one by now if they even cared the slightest. It has been asked for for how many years now? And nothing.

    And as others have stated, you can sign that petition repeatedly, who's to say that some just didn't spam the signature page. 200k for a petition that can be signed repeatedly isn't anything magical.
    If a few fans managed to put up a vanilla server it can't possibly cost Blizzard that much work and money. And they did manage to get a pretty impressive number of players so I am pretty sure Blizzard would earn money on it.
    It's not a matter of whether it's costs them or even if they can turn a profit on a vanilla server.  The computations are much more complicated.  how many people will stop playing WoW proper to go to Vanilla.  If people playing vanilla are paying a nominal amount, what's the difference?  Now, all those people who moved to vanilla, aren't gonna be buying any expansions... how does that affect the dollar difference?

    I think people have a very simplistic view of the economics of it.  It's not a simple 1+1 equation.  
    Well, it is rather simple honestly. Most current WoW players do not play for a sub, they buy it with gold. Wouldn't the no expansion thing be nullified if Vanilla enforced a sub fee with real currency? Even though it wouldn't get any expansions, I think that the difference is quite big. 

    Expansions come in a yearly basis for 39-49$? 12 months=14.99$x12. I think it would matter more how many people would actually play on Vanilla's.

    asdasdasd

  • DarLorkarDarLorkar Member UncommonPosts: 1,082
    tawess said:
    laserit said:



    The important thing about Mark Kern conversing with Mike Morhaime is that we will get a response.

     

    Will we...? 

    And will the community accept if the answer if it is a simple.. No. 
    If Blizzard comes forward with a proper response explaining their reasons, I will accept their answer.  But if they continue to ignore the community that helped make them who they are then they deserve everything that comes with that decision.
    This kind of thinking, and demands, are the exact reason for them NOT to ever respond to this nonsense.

    They have a game, with many expansions, that they produce and put out for any that want to play it.

    They have zero incentive to try to talk to people that are not customers, and have been stealing the property of the company. And explaining? explain what? They explained all they need to in the cease letter to the people abusing blizz's rights.

    People thinking they deserve control of other people's work and products.... way down the rabbit hole and past the cuckoo clock of crazy.  Play the game as they put it out or not...you have no right to demand more. 
  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227
    tawess said:
    laserit said:



    The important thing about Mark Kern conversing with Mike Morhaime is that we will get a response.

     

    Will we...? 

    And will the community accept if the answer if it is a simple.. No. 
    If Blizzard comes forward with a proper response explaining their reasons, I will accept their answer.  But if they continue to ignore the community that helped make them who they are then they deserve everything that comes with that decision.
    They have done that....

    it went along the lines of 

    we do not have the code ready to plug in, we do not want to move backwards and we do not see it being viable in the long run. 


    What more do you want in the way of an answer?`(rhetorical question... i know what you want.. you will not get it) 

    This have been a good conversation

  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    tawess said:
    tawess said:
    laserit said:



    The important thing about Mark Kern conversing with Mike Morhaime is that we will get a response.

     

    Will we...? 

    And will the community accept if the answer if it is a simple.. No. 
    If Blizzard comes forward with a proper response explaining their reasons, I will accept their answer.  But if they continue to ignore the community that helped make them who they are then they deserve everything that comes with that decision.
    They have done that....

    it went along the lines of 

    we do not have the code ready to plug in, we do not want to move backwards and we do not see it being viable in the long run. 


    What more do you want in the way of an answer?`(rhetorical question... i know what you want.. you will not get it) 
    But but but .. its not the answer i want ....!!!!

      I want an Ommpaloompa and i Want it now Daddy!!!
  • AethaerynAethaeryn Member RarePosts: 3,150
    klash2def said:
    why do people hold vanilla wow in such high regards? wow is still here because of all the changes they made over the years, not because they kept it "vanilla"  if blizz listens to the vanilla logic then wow shuts down in 2006. 

    btw Vanilla wow sucked  compared to wow today as a overall game... what makes me PREFER vanilla days are the people.. not the game. The people are diff now. 

    edit:i would return to wow to play with the sense of unity and community from vanilla.. but again vanilla vs now.. its not even close. wow today is much better as a game the people playing it are worse. 
    I played on the server for a bit to see if I would like it.  I found it a better experience then the current game (I was subbed then).  I agree to the point that once people hit level cap and a few months pass it would slow and die.  In my opinion WoW is still alive because it adds new things, not because it has gotten better.  The sub numbers drop after each expansion push.  That does not suggest a more appealing game.  It also could be that there is just that much more competition as well.

    They would have to launch Vanilla, patch problems and then try to add stuff with the smame formula and experience to make it viable.  THIS. . will not happen.

    Wa min God! Se æx on min heafod is!

  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227
    tawess said:
    tawess said:
    laserit said:



    The important thing about Mark Kern conversing with Mike Morhaime is that we will get a response.

     

    Will we...? 

    And will the community accept if the answer if it is a simple.. No. 
    If Blizzard comes forward with a proper response explaining their reasons, I will accept their answer.  But if they continue to ignore the community that helped make them who they are then they deserve everything that comes with that decision.
    They have done that....

    it went along the lines of 

    we do not have the code ready to plug in, we do not want to move backwards and we do not see it being viable in the long run. 


    What more do you want in the way of an answer?`(rhetorical question... i know what you want.. you will not get it) 
    No, I don't think you do.  You think you know that but you don't. ;)

    And by the way, that doesn't count as addressing the issue appropriately.  That was just J. Allen Brack revealing his utter contempt for anyone who doesn't see things his way.

    Whatever it is they've said in the past piecemeal isn't going to cut it.  They're going to need to communicate seriously with their playerbase on this one.  Or than can continue to ignore it and look like snobby jerkoffs.  Their choice, I suppose.
    Told  you i knew what you wanted... 


    You want them to adress you person to person.... 

    Activision Blizzard will not do that. They have given their official answer and that is what you will get, because that is what companies do for communication. 

    Heck even if they switch stance you will just get pre-baked PR answers. 


    This have been a good conversation

  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    I get a good laugh at the "Let Them Eat Cake" attitude some portray here. For the ones that own Blizzard stock like they claim. It's a good thing that you're not running the company, because there is only one direction your stocks are going to go with that kind of an attitude towards your customers.

    I believe Mike Morhaime will show a little more class and wisdom than some of you proclaimed Stockholders exhibit.

    You stockholders seem to forget where the real money comes from.

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • scorpex-xscorpex-x Member RarePosts: 1,030
    Here is what you need to do if you really want this official private server.

    You KNOW you will play this game long-term and Blizzard are wrong right? so all 200k should put 2 years of advanced subscription upfront in a kickstarter and offer it to Blizzard.  That is something they will listen to!

    Lets see you get 200k people willing to do that and maybe Blizzard will take you serious.  All these vanilla wow cry babies are full of poop and won't put their money where their mouth is.

    Blizzard is a company with share holders, you aren't going to change their mind unless it's proven to be financially viable, signing a petition is next to meaningless.
  • PepeqPepeq Member UncommonPosts: 1,977
    laserit said:
    I get a good laugh at the "Let Them Eat Cake" attitude some portray here. For the ones that own Blizzard stock like they claim. It's a good thing that you're not running the company, because there is only one direction your stocks are going to go with that kind of an attitude towards your customers.

    I believe Mike Morhaime will show a little more class and wisdom than some of you proclaimed Stockholders exhibit.

    You stockholders seem to forget where the real money comes from.
    Instead of signing a petition... picket the Warcraft movie theaters and organize a protest rally at Blizzcon.  Nothing will get their attention more than negative publicity on the local news.

    Geraldo Rivera:  "So Blizzard, just why won't you consider opening up a legacy server?"
    Mike Morhaime:  "Well there is no legacy code, thus it's impossible to do?"
    Geraldo Rivera:  "If it's impossible, then how did a bunch of college students pull it off in Europe?  Are you saying they have more technical savvy than a multi-million dollar company?"
    Activision-Blizzard Lawyer:  "This interview is over."
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    laserit said:

    SBFord said:
    Given that the petition can easily be signed more than once, that 200k is irrelevant. *shrugs* With Overwatch and Legion this year, the discussion is not going to happen.
    That can be true with pretty much any petition. Petitions are valid and relevant if your pro.... invalid and irrelevant if your against.

    The important thing about Mark Kern conversing with Mike Morhaime is that we will get a response.

    Silence is the easy way out.   
    You're assuming that anyone at Blizzard gives a darn what Mark Kern thinks since it's been a long time since he worked there and as most of us know from past work experiences, time removes that familiarity.

    Many people are trying to seem relevant to the conversation when they are not. All that really matters is that Blizzard is focused on Legion and Overwatch and probably a Diablo 3 expansion beyond that (and then more expansions for WoW etc.).


    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 


  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227

    I think laserit is correct.  Morhaime can probably approach this issue more eloquently than the "shareholders" I've seen post on forums.  I hope he figures out a way to do that through official channels ... and soon.

    So as long as he tells you to take along walk on a short pier in a nice and wordy way.. you will be happy. 


    Because until they change stance you will still get the same answer as above... no matter how diplomatic terms they are put in.

    Now why this is mostly a non-issue is because WoW is not the top dog product any more and for each day more and more people play Blizzard games that have never heard of or care about classic WoW. 

    That is the hard honest truth. 


    This have been a good conversation

  • trastloltrastlol Member UncommonPosts: 4
    SBFord said:
    You're assuming that anyone at Blizzard gives a darn what Mark Kern thinks since it's been a long time since he worked there and as most of us know from past work experiences, time removes that familiarity.

    Many people are trying to seem relevant to the conversation when they are not. All that really matters is that Blizzard is focused on Legion and Overwatch and probably a Diablo 3 expansion beyond that (and then more expansions for WoW etc.).
    I think it has less to do what blizzard thinks about the individual things like Mark, or the petition. Its when you put it all together it forces a response from them. Most people would say that blizzard won't change their minds, I also believe this.

    However, it gives people an answer.

    Also, looking at blizzard as one entity that is creating a game like you are doing is also wrong. WoW, Overwatch, Diablo and HotS are four different parts of blizzard. This has nothing to do with taking time from the Overwatch team, Diablo or the HotS team.

    World of Warcraft isn't thriving. A lot of people hate the garrisons for example and now the news came out that they are continuing them in Legion. People are tired of a dumbed down simplified game and are losing interest.

    Getting more people playing is however in blizzards interest, and a lot of people would play on a progression server, a legacy server or a server dedicated to expansions like burning crusade or Wotlk. 

    When or if blizzard responds remains to be seen. However a lot of people have hope that maybe they can play the game they once loved legitimately. And if blizzard decides to say No, then we will, more than likely, see an increase in the amount of private servers currently running. 
  • SephirosoSephiroso Member RarePosts: 2,020
    Deekins said:
    Deekins said:
    Deekins said:
    Loke666 said:
    Deekins said:
    Like I said in other threads about this. I just don't see Blizzard making any kind of legacy server. Even if they did. I don't think it would do that great. The game is never as one remembers. You can't recapture that feeling you had first playing the game. 

    Money is time, and setting all of it up cost them money, then when the inevitable happens and the population starts dropping off, they then have to merge servers. More money and time than. It just isn't worth it to them.

    On a scale of 1-10, 10 being Blizzard caring the most about making a legacy server. I'm pretty sure Blizzard is setting around -10. They would of made one by now if they even cared the slightest. It has been asked for for how many years now? And nothing.

    And as others have stated, you can sign that petition repeatedly, who's to say that some just didn't spam the signature page. 200k for a petition that can be signed repeatedly isn't anything magical.
    If a few fans managed to put up a vanilla server it can't possibly cost Blizzard that much work and money. And they did manage to get a pretty impressive number of players so I am pretty sure Blizzard would earn money on it.
    They got that many numbers because most were a bunch of free loaders that wouldn't pay even if Blizzard put it together. They don't want to pay and they won't pay. So I doubt they would come back and pay if Blizzard even did it. They wanted a free version and Blizzard is most definitely, not going to give a free version.

    It is most telling they had 800k accounts and only 150k players. Everyone seems to think this would be some great money maker for Blizzard, where in fact it will not. It is just not worth it financially for Blizzard to do this. I'm sure some number cruncher for Blizzard has already did the math and found it not viable. If it was, Blizzard would do it, they are in it to make money.

    All null and void anyways, because again if Blizzard wanted to do it, they would of done it already. End of story. 
    Ah yes, the only-freeloaders-want-this argument.  There's a ton of free-to-play MMOs out there, but the free loaders are opting to play a decade old game with no offiicial support that can disappear at any time due to cease and desist notices.  Huh-uh .... that's what's happening .... *shakes head*.
    You can try your argument anyway you want. But I guarantee you that most of those players played because it was free. FREE. They don't want, nor will they shell out the money to play on official servers. You can try to argue that anyway you want. But it still isn't going to make Blizzard open a server for the crying few, like yourself. And it has nothing to do with if the server was going to shut down, it was still free. Just like every other free emu server out there, it is free so they play it. Very few ever donate money. Or will play on server they have to pay. 
    Or they could play Tera, which is also free and not in danger of disappearing at any moment.  So why would they opt to play decade-old-WoW and risk losing their investment of time?  I don't think the "they're only playing it because it's free" argument holds much water.  There are enough free themepark MMO options currently to satisfy players who simply want to play a MMO without spending money.  I think most of the people who are playing legacy WoW are playing it because that's the game they want to play.  If they could play an official version with better support, I bet many of them would opt to do so.
    Wow, you just don't get it. They want to play WoW, so they play one that is free. Tera is not WoW is it? No, no it isn't. But I can guarantee if that emu server would of charged a monthly fee, it wouldn't of had anywhere near that many players. Why, because they played a free version of WoW. Just because there are other theme parks doesn't mean that is what they want to play those. They wanted to play a particular one. And they wanted to play it for free... It doesn't matter if they were going to lose everything, it was still a free version of that game. 

    Sure most may opt to play a legacy version that is official...I bet if it was free. You under estimate what some think they are entitled to. Some think they should get it free because they are special little snowflakes. Kind of like now, some assholes stole Blizzard code, made a server and Blizzard laid the smack down. Now all those special little snowflakes thinks Blizzard should open a legacy server just for them. When Blizzard hasn't even opened one from the get go. But because 200k snowflakes (which in reality was more along the lines of probably 100k snowflakes) signed a petition, well Blizzard has to listen now, because 200k people demand it. Good luck with that. Let me know how it works out.
    I think you're mistaken.  It seems very difficult to imagine for some that a lot of people would prefer to pay for the old-school game they want.   For the folks who are playing on private WoD servers you're no doubt correct, but the ones playing private vanilla servers?  I don't think so.  Most of those people are probably my age.  I don't see a large pool of young, new-age instant-gratification kiddos longing for vanilla WoW, lol.
    Age has nothing to do with this conversation, so don't bring it up.

    image
    Be the Ultimate Ninja! Play Billy Vs. SNAKEMAN today!

  • ZarriyaZarriya Member UncommonPosts: 446
    Deekins said:
     Blizzard doesn't have to appease the thieves and accomplices by opening a legacy server.
    They are not thieves if they pay to play on a legacy server.

    People who play on a private current version WoW server play because they want WoW free.

    People who play on a private classic version WoW server play because they want old WoW.
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    SBFord said:
    laserit said:

    SBFord said:
    Given that the petition can easily be signed more than once, that 200k is irrelevant. *shrugs* With Overwatch and Legion this year, the discussion is not going to happen.
    That can be true with pretty much any petition. Petitions are valid and relevant if your pro.... invalid and irrelevant if your against.

    The important thing about Mark Kern conversing with Mike Morhaime is that we will get a response.

    Silence is the easy way out.   
    You're assuming that anyone at Blizzard gives a darn what Mark Kern thinks since it's been a long time since he worked there and as most of us know from past work experiences, time removes that familiarity.

    Many people are trying to seem relevant to the conversation when they are not. All that really matters is that Blizzard is focused on Legion and Overwatch and probably a Diablo 3 expansion beyond that (and then more expansions for WoW etc.).
    Mike Morhaime can slam the door in Mark Kerns face. He can totally ignore Mark Kern.

    What kind of a message do you think that would send?

    IMHO Mike Morhaime will give this issue some thought and some answers. It may very well be a statement  that Vanilla fans don't want to hear.  But there will be a statement none the less. Ignoring it at this point is a lose lose situation.

    Mark Kern gives the issue legitimacy and traction. It also gives the gaming media something to write about.

    This issue is alive and kicking.

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • trastloltrastlol Member UncommonPosts: 4
    Deekins said:
    Zarriya said:
    Deekins said:
     Blizzard doesn't have to appease the thieves and accomplices by opening a legacy server.
    They are not thieves if they pay to play on a legacy server.

    People who play on a private current version WoW server play because they want WoW free.

    People who play on a private classic version WoW server play because they want old WoW.
    I never said they were if they paid, read the whole thing. I said that Blizzard doesn't have to appease the thieves and accomplices. That is what they were, the thieves stole the code...the accomplices played on said coded server. Blizzard in no way has to appease those people by opening a legacy server.

    You can dress it up however you want. But if they play on a emu server with stolen code, they are accomplices to the stolen code. You can dress up shit, but at the end of the day it is still shit.
    I think most would agree with you that blizzard doesn't have to do anything.

    But people are signing this petition to show blizzard what they would like to see. In the end most just want a response. The people that are signing this petition doesn't want to play on the current version of the game because its so insanely far from what the original was and insanely far from what blizzard wanted in the beginning even.

    Trying to paint these people as criminals and accomplices is just a silly way in trying to remove legitimacy. 
Sign In or Register to comment.