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Only took a few things to kill this game

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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 8,951
    I logged on yesterday after work for the 1st time in a month because I was waiting on Blader. Every channel was crowded and the game was just as alive as it was before. Black Desert is a success just like we said it would be. 

    I see the hate is still strong.  :o
  • MyrdynnMyrdynn Member RarePosts: 2,388
    wait, I can get a horse from 1-30 in 2 nights of afk autopathing, yet somehow this costume is P2W?

    RNG stats is fine, you have more HP than me, so what, I might have more MP than you, and maybe if I am skilled enough you burn thru them faster.

    Or if its that bad, reroll, it takes 2 days to hit 50

  • holdenhamletholdenhamlet Member EpicPosts: 3,756
    After all these statistics you do realize that the characters astrological sign figures into the equation.
    If you are playing Black Desert for end game then you are playing for the wrong reason.
    Why not enjoy it for the adventure it was meant to be. Seek out the Vagabond on the mountain tops and the story of Black Desert will be revealed to you.
    Does that Vagabond have 20 friends that spawn frequently?  Cause if so that sounds like a pretty good grind spot.
  • BlazeyerBlazeyer Member UncommonPosts: 562
    edited April 2016
    People complain about everything.

    Your horse gets exp quicker, awesome. Grats on getting places faster.


    "BUT BUT YOU CAN SELL THE HORSE!!"... if afk riding makes you more money than afk fishing, you're doing it wrong.

    Chill out, seriously.
  • KellerKeller Member UncommonPosts: 602
    Recore said:
    I logged on yesterday after work for the 1st time in a month because I was waiting on Blader. Every channel was crowded and the game was just as alive as it was before. Black Desert is a success just like we said it would be. 

    I see the hate is still strong.  :o

    sorry if I single you out, but people seem to measure population in relation to channel occupation. I'm guessing a Channel is a what other games call a dynamic zone or instance? Are there a fixed number of channels? Or is a channel added for every 25 players online? How many players can one channel have? Do all servers have the same amount of channels? Does someone monitor these channels?

    I have seen the Channel argument being used a number of times, but none has taken the time to explain us (outsiders) why channels are so significant.


    I agree the hate is strong. People play what they like and if you don't like it, move on. (leaving a constructive post or mail your feedback to the devs is okay) 
  • holdenhamletholdenhamlet Member EpicPosts: 3,756
    Myrdynn said:
    wait, I can get a horse from 1-30 in 2 nights of afk autopathing, yet somehow this costume is P2W?

    RNG stats is fine, you have more HP than me, so what, I might have more MP than you, and maybe if I am skilled enough you burn thru them faster.

    Or if its that bad, reroll, it takes 2 days to hit 50

    Pretty sure it's going to take William Murphy 3 years to hit 50.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 13,080
    edited April 2016
    Keller said:
    Recore said:
    I logged on yesterday after work for the 1st time in a month because I was waiting on Blader. Every channel was crowded and the game was just as alive as it was before. Black Desert is a success just like we said it would be. 

    I see the hate is still strong.  :o

    sorry if I single you out, but people seem to measure population in relation to channel occupation. I'm guessing a Channel is a what other games call a dynamic zone or instance? Are there a fixed number of channels? Or is a channel added for every 25 players online? How many players can one channel have? Do all servers have the same amount of channels? Does someone monitor these channels?

    I have seen the Channel argument being used a number of times, but none has taken the time to explain us (outsiders) why channels are so significant.


    I agree the hate is strong. People play what they like and if you don't like it, move on. (leaving a constructive post or mail your feedback to the devs is okay) 
    There are 3 servers for NA and 3 for EU. Each server has 12 permanent channels. Right now in NA, all the channels are listed as "crowded."

    Oh and I should add... each channel contains the whole world. It's not like other "megaserver" MMOs where channels are added on the fly zone by instanced zone.

    The only thing instanced in BDO is your residence and even that happens very quickly without any loading. 
    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED
  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 8,951
    Keller said:
    Recore said:
    I logged on yesterday after work for the 1st time in a month because I was waiting on Blader. Every channel was crowded and the game was just as alive as it was before. Black Desert is a success just like we said it would be. 

    I see the hate is still strong.  :o

    sorry if I single you out, but people seem to measure population in relation to channel occupation. I'm guessing a Channel is a what other games call a dynamic zone or instance? Are there a fixed number of channels? Or is a channel added for every 25 players online? How many players can one channel have? Do all servers have the same amount of channels? Does someone monitor these channels?

    I have seen the Channel argument being used a number of times, but none has taken the time to explain us (outsiders) why channels are so significant.


    I agree the hate is strong. People play what they like and if you don't like it, move on. (leaving a constructive post or mail your feedback to the devs is okay) 


    Only those who seek will find.  =)

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Black+Desert+Channels
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 13,080
    Myrdynn said:
    wait, I can get a horse from 1-30 in 2 nights of afk autopathing, yet somehow this costume is P2W?

    RNG stats is fine, you have more HP than me, so what, I might have more MP than you, and maybe if I am skilled enough you burn thru them faster.

    Or if its that bad, reroll, it takes 2 days to hit 50

    Pretty sure it's going to take William Murphy 3 years to hit 50.
    He should be so lucky. 3 years enjoying the same game? Very old school.
    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED
  • KellerKeller Member UncommonPosts: 602
    Recore said:
    Keller said:
    Recore said:
    I logged on yesterday after work for the 1st time in a month because I was waiting on Blader. Every channel was crowded and the game was just as alive as it was before. Black Desert is a success just like we said it would be. 

    I see the hate is still strong.  :o

    sorry if I single you out, but people seem to measure population in relation to channel occupation. I'm guessing a Channel is a what other games call a dynamic zone or instance? Are there a fixed number of channels? Or is a channel added for every 25 players online? How many players can one channel have? Do all servers have the same amount of channels? Does someone monitor these channels?

    I have seen the Channel argument being used a number of times, but none has taken the time to explain us (outsiders) why channels are so significant.


    I agree the hate is strong. People play what they like and if you don't like it, move on. (leaving a constructive post or mail your feedback to the devs is okay) 


    Only those who seek will find.  =)

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Black+Desert+Channels

    and why did they conclude in that thread one should look for info ingame, these forums or on twitch? http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/comment/6913663#Comment_6913663
  • MyrdynnMyrdynn Member RarePosts: 2,388
    Myrdynn said:
    wait, I can get a horse from 1-30 in 2 nights of afk autopathing, yet somehow this costume is P2W?

    RNG stats is fine, you have more HP than me, so what, I might have more MP than you, and maybe if I am skilled enough you burn thru them faster.

    Or if its that bad, reroll, it takes 2 days to hit 50

    Pretty sure it's going to take William Murphy 3 years to hit 50.

    me too, my highest is 27
  • kitaradkitarad Member EpicPosts: 5,225
    Iselin said:
    Myrdynn said:
    wait, I can get a horse from 1-30 in 2 nights of afk autopathing, yet somehow this costume is P2W?

    RNG stats is fine, you have more HP than me, so what, I might have more MP than you, and maybe if I am skilled enough you burn thru them faster.

    Or if its that bad, reroll, it takes 2 days to hit 50

    Pretty sure it's going to take William Murphy 3 years to hit 50.
    He should be so lucky. 3 years enjoying the same game? Very old school.
    Exactly can you imagine enjoying a game for 3 years. I'd say that was my money's worth indeed.

  • Dragonsfire9Dragonsfire9 Member UncommonPosts: 85
    edited April 2016
    @ Recore, I don't think you know what a channel is in BDO.  It is not generated as an overflow.  It is permanent (at least so far) but you can jump between channels on each server every  20 minutes.  So you can get away from a crowded grind point or avoid someone who is harassing you.  The definition you linked is not what BDO channels are.
  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 8,951
    Keller said:
    Recore said:
    Keller said:
    Recore said:
    I logged on yesterday after work for the 1st time in a month because I was waiting on Blader. Every channel was crowded and the game was just as alive as it was before. Black Desert is a success just like we said it would be. 

    I see the hate is still strong.  :o

    sorry if I single you out, but people seem to measure population in relation to channel occupation. I'm guessing a Channel is a what other games call a dynamic zone or instance? Are there a fixed number of channels? Or is a channel added for every 25 players online? How many players can one channel have? Do all servers have the same amount of channels? Does someone monitor these channels?

    I have seen the Channel argument being used a number of times, but none has taken the time to explain us (outsiders) why channels are so significant.


    I agree the hate is strong. People play what they like and if you don't like it, move on. (leaving a constructive post or mail your feedback to the devs is okay) 


    Only those who seek will find.  =)

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Black+Desert+Channels

    and why did they conclude in that thread one should look for info ingame, these forums or on twitch? http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/comment/6913663#Comment_6913663


    Who is they?

  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 8,951

    @ Recore, I don't think you know what a channel is in BDO.  It is not generated as an overflow.  It is permanent (at least so far) but you can jump between channels on each server every  20 minutes.  So you can get away from a crowded grind point or avoid someone who is harassing you.  The definition you linked is not what BDO channels are.

    Who said anything about overflow? 

    Where did I link a definition? 


  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,858
    Gorgeous game with a lot to do, but the combat mechanics aren't my favorite. I haven't played it in over a month or so. I will probably play when I can't find anything else to do, but right now I'm occupied. 

    Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  • VardahothVardahoth Member RarePosts: 1,472
    edited April 2016
    Tiller said:
    Vardahoth said:
    fs23otm said:
    Vardahoth said:

    As for BDO, I bought a +11, and 65 black stones to enchant with. 59 failed before going to +12. I won't play a game with forced rng period, it's not for me. I've never been lucky with rng and that is why I stay away from casino's. I would be the guy who pulls nothing but grey socks 55 times. So yes, I am that purple squirrel.
     Well you are either A ) lying or B ) lack any intellegence...

     If you are talking a +11 weapon.... depending on weapon can be 5-8 million...

     65 weapon stones... at a low end 350k ... would be 22.75 million... you could of bought a +15 for that

     If you are talking armor... +11 depends on piece but still in the 5-7 mil range...

     65 armor stones at 250k ... is 16.75 million... you still could of bought a +15 piece...

     So like I said... either a liar or a fool 
    I didn't buy the stones all at once, I saved them incrementally (before using them), because I knew it would take a lot for me to succeed. I actually only probably bought around 20-30, rest was all found from killing monsters over a period of 3 weeks.

    BTW, the +15 weapons were 38mil last I checked.

    And making money in this game isn't hard. I know guildies who were making 7mil a day just from raising sunflowers and trading (not even including the money they made from fishing at the same time).
    The market is over saturated with sunflowers and carrots; at this point it takes a few days to sell them off even at lowest price.
    you don't sell the sunflowers, you use them to create the crates:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/3deljb/sunflower/


    scorpex-x said:
    Vardahoth said:
    http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/74624-20-horse-exp-on-the-new-costume/&page=7
    Game is now confirmed pay to win

    http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/43010-hp-per-level-seems-to-be-random/
    perma forced rng on your character stats upon level up, dumbest design I have ever heard for an open world mmorpg competitive pvp game.
    http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/73595-voting-forced-perma-rng-in-stat-increase-upon-level/&page=2

    Game has only been out for a few months. That didn't take long.

    Next!
    There is no next, well maybe Bless but you'll hate that too.  Then there will be nothing next.
    Nobody will make another mmorpg ever again? say it aint so.

    I Quit.

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/436845/page/1 -> http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/436845/what-killed-mmorpgs-for-you/p1

    http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2316034
    .............
    Retired Gamer: all MMORPG's have been destroyed by big business, marketing of false promises, unprofessional game makers, and a generation of "I WIN and GIVE ME NOW" (brought to you by pokeman).

  • VardahothVardahoth Member RarePosts: 1,472
    Blazeyer said:
    People complain about everything.

    Your horse gets exp quicker, awesome. Grats on getting places faster.


    "BUT BUT YOU CAN SELL THE HORSE!!"... if afk riding makes you more money than afk fishing, you're doing it wrong.

    Chill out, seriously.
    I know it's hard to see past leveling a T1 horse in 2 days. I know! It requires math. But luckily someone on the forums did it for you.

    As someone already said...
    "quote"
    Horse costume = 20% exp
    Breeding count reset
    Death count reset
    Horse skill change coupon
    Horse sell for tens of millions.

    Get t7 male, t7 female breed,reset, change skills until you get sprint, charge, instant accell,sell. 80million silver.

    Someone explain how this is not pay to win in the long run?
    "/quote"

    I Quit.

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/436845/page/1 -> http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/436845/what-killed-mmorpgs-for-you/p1

    http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2316034
    .............
    Retired Gamer: all MMORPG's have been destroyed by big business, marketing of false promises, unprofessional game makers, and a generation of "I WIN and GIVE ME NOW" (brought to you by pokeman).

  • MyrdynnMyrdynn Member RarePosts: 2,388
    Vardahoth said:
    Blazeyer said:
    People complain about everything.

    Your horse gets exp quicker, awesome. Grats on getting places faster.


    "BUT BUT YOU CAN SELL THE HORSE!!"... if afk riding makes you more money than afk fishing, you're doing it wrong.

    Chill out, seriously.
    I know it's hard to see past leveling a T1 horse in 2 days. I know! It requires math. But luckily someone on the forums did it for you.

    As someone already said...
    "quote"
    Horse costume = 20% exp
    Breeding count reset
    Death count reset
    Horse skill change coupon
    Horse sell for tens of millions.

    Get t7 male, t7 female breed,reset, change skills until you get sprint, charge, instant accell,sell. 80million silver.

    Someone explain how this is not pay to win in the long run?
    "/quote"

    can you only get that done with the costume?

    its pay for convenience
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 34,367
    kitarad said:
    Iselin said:
    Myrdynn said:
    wait, I can get a horse from 1-30 in 2 nights of afk autopathing, yet somehow this costume is P2W?

    RNG stats is fine, you have more HP than me, so what, I might have more MP than you, and maybe if I am skilled enough you burn thru them faster.

    Or if its that bad, reroll, it takes 2 days to hit 50

    Pretty sure it's going to take William Murphy 3 years to hit 50.
    He should be so lucky. 3 years enjoying the same game? Very old school.
    Exactly can you imagine enjoying a game for 3 years. I'd say that was my money's worth indeed.
    Sure can, coming up on two straight years of EVE and only EVE here in June, and I've got over 6 years of sub time in since 2007.


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  • RealizerRealizer Member RarePosts: 724
    Vardahoth said:
    Blazeyer said:
    People complain about everything.

    Your horse gets exp quicker, awesome. Grats on getting places faster.


    "BUT BUT YOU CAN SELL THE HORSE!!"... if afk riding makes you more money than afk fishing, you're doing it wrong.

    Chill out, seriously.
    I know it's hard to see past leveling a T1 horse in 2 days. I know! It requires math. But luckily someone on the forums did it for you.

    As someone already said...
    "quote"
    Horse costume = 20% exp
    Breeding count reset
    Death count reset
    Horse skill change coupon
    Horse sell for tens of millions.

    Get t7 male, t7 female breed,reset, change skills until you get sprint, charge, instant accell,sell. 80million silver.

    Someone explain how this is not pay to win in the long run?
    "/quote"
    You can achieve that same result without spending a cent of real money. Sorry, but that's not pay to win.
  • DeltoisDeltois Member UncommonPosts: 384
    It s not pay to win trust me it s not. LOL
  • DeltoisDeltois Member UncommonPosts: 384
    9 years of DAOC and still counting, none of these garbage games now could achieve that.
  • RealizerRealizer Member RarePosts: 724
    edited April 2016
    Deltois said:
    9 years of DAOC and still counting, none of these garbage games now could achieve that.
     That's cool I've played DAoC since it released, and my account is still open. Doesn't mean it can give me the game play of an active game. In DAoC it's the same as it was years ago, the newer content isn't that big of a deal for me, and in the end Ywain just isn't as fun as when the game was populated. It's the same 500 people in the frontiers everyday. BDO is a new experience, if you don't want to play it don't, but sitting in these forums crying because people are enjoying something you aren't is just petty.

    Edit: For clarification I'll always be a DAoC fan, it's still my favorite mmo of all time, but being honest only 1200 people play it still. I like both games, but let's not pretend DAoC can provide what BDO can for new players right now. 
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