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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,494
    DonY81 said:
    This has been a bit of an education so thanks for that. Im seriously unsure now what to do overall. What a pickle.
    Reason being my wife mentioned to me. ''It seems your having to upgrade your PC and you have the PS4 you barely use''
    reason I don't use the PS4 is because the games a silly money and ive been a PC gamer for over 15 years.

    I will buy a new PC but want to keep it around the £1000 mark. I know my processer is getting old so after you take into account graphics, PSU, processor it starts to add up. Let alone the fact that its already 4 years old
    That's a large enough budget to get yourself something very nice that will last a long time.

    Are you willing to assemble the computer yourself?  If you don't know what parts to get, I could help with that.  If you can't use a screwdriver, I can't help with that.  A given budget typically goes about 20% further if you build your own.

    Also, I take it that you're in Britain if you're quoting prices in pounds.  Presumably that means you can buy from British sites?
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,494
    Avanah said:
    DonY81 said:

    Hi guys. I bought my PC about 3- 4 years ago from Novatech and i know its time to upgrade my graphics card but im worried the PSU isnt good enough etc. I do gaming and am noticing cracks in the graphics starting to appear.
    My PSU is a 750w ATX PSU
    Current graphics card : Radeon 7850
    RAM: 16 gig
    M board: AM3 +

    My question is i do know about bottlenecks and that the motherboard can do this as well as not having a good enough PSU.

    What graphics card can i get thats best for the money but not too much of a strain on current hardware i.e psu.

    Thanks in advance.

    Get an NVidia, you'll not have to worry about cracking ect for a long time. I used to have AMD stuff...like 10 yrs ago. Intel + NVidia is hands down what you want. 
    Of course those who want Cheap...go with AMD. You get what you pay for.

    This is my own personal experience.

    But, it's your choice, not for anyone else to decide for you.

    Want to pick your parts and compare?
    Try this out:

    https://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/

    My BF and I built my second system ourselves. It's so much fun and cheaper too. :)
    On a large budget, yeah, you want an Intel CPU; likely a Core i5-6600, though it depends on whether prices on Sky Lake are reasonable just yet.  Zen might shake that up, but that's late this year at the earliest.

    But the CPU choice is independent of the GPU choice if you're not using integrated graphics.  You can sometimes make a case for buying certain Nvidia cards over certain AMD cards on a particular budget at the prices available that day (and sometimes make a case for buying AMD instead), but to dismiss either of the major GPU vendors out of hand is a good way to overpay for an inferior product.
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    edited January 2016
    DonY81 said:
    This has been a bit of an education so thanks for that. Im seriously unsure now what to do overall. What a pickle.
    Reason being my wife mentioned to me. ''It seems your having to upgrade your PC and you have the PS4 you barely use''
    reason I don't use the PS4 is because the games a silly money and ive been a PC gamer for over 15 years.

    I will buy a new PC but want to keep it around the £1000 mark. I know my processer is getting old so after you take into account graphics, PSU, processor it starts to add up. Let alone the fact that its already 4 years old
    Nothing really complicated there.

    If you canot buy all parts at once:

    1) Buy GTX 970 first since it will contribute to your FPS increase by largest margin: £250

    2) Then buy PSU since you seem to have some poor quality PSU. The chance it will damage your computer is rather low but...

    Look for 500W PSU from brands like Antec, Seasonic, BeQuiet! - you can't go wrong with those. That will cost you around: £65

    3) Then upgrade the rest:
    i5 CPU, clock speed does not really matter so do not get any highly clocked 6500 will be just fine, no "K" series: £160-180
    Motherboard - unless you have some special needs, the basic B150 chipset will do fine: £60 memory - standard DDR4 2133, either 2X4GB or 1x8GB if your MB supports only 2 DIMM slots: £35
    4) 1TB HDD: £40
    5) PC case - mostly aesthetic decision: £50

    Total: £670
  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,414
    edited January 2016
    Tearing is usually the result of overheating like other posters have said. Aside from the PSU, I would make sure you don't have an ambient temperature issue before buying a new pc. Clean out your case, blow out the dust, and make sure the fans work properly.
    Although your system is old in some areas, it's perfectly capable and you won't see the performance boost you may imagine. For gaming the cpu does not matter that much. So a 6100 adequately meets the needs. The 7850 was a higher midrange card and a new midrange would maybe give you 50% better performance.
    The better approach may be to piece meal parts into your system in order to see the extent of issues. Especially if you plan to pawn your old one to the wife. First I would just replace your old PSU with something like a Corsair AX650 and see what difference it makes.
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  • DonY81DonY81 Member UncommonPosts: 398
    Quizzical said:
    DonY81 said:
    This has been a bit of an education so thanks for that. Im seriously unsure now what to do overall. What a pickle.
    Reason being my wife mentioned to me. ''It seems your having to upgrade your PC and you have the PS4 you barely use''
    reason I don't use the PS4 is because the games a silly money and ive been a PC gamer for over 15 years.

    I will buy a new PC but want to keep it around the £1000 mark. I know my processer is getting old so after you take into account graphics, PSU, processor it starts to add up. Let alone the fact that its already 4 years old
    That's a large enough budget to get yourself something very nice that will last a long time.

    Are you willing to assemble the computer yourself?  If you don't know what parts to get, I could help with that.  If you can't use a screwdriver, I can't help with that.  A given budget typically goes about 20% further if you build your own.

    Also, I take it that you're in Britain if you're quoting prices in pounds.  Presumably that means you can buy from British sites?

    I appreciate that Quizzical.

    I have 2 hands that are useless for that sort of thing . I can guess its fiddly but I can also guess its far more beneficial to build your own cost wise.

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  • Quazal.AQuazal.A Member UncommonPosts: 859
    edited January 2016
    DonY81 said:
    Quizzical said:
    DonY81 said:
    This has been a bit of an education so thanks for that. Im seriously unsure now what to do overall. What a pickle.
    Reason being my wife mentioned to me. ''It seems your having to upgrade your PC and you have the PS4 you barely use''
    reason I don't use the PS4 is because the games a silly money and ive been a PC gamer for over 15 years.

    I will buy a new PC but want to keep it around the £1000 mark. I know my processer is getting old so after you take into account graphics, PSU, processor it starts to add up. Let alone the fact that its already 4 years old
    That's a large enough budget to get yourself something very nice that will last a long time.

    Are you willing to assemble the computer yourself?  If you don't know what parts to get, I could help with that.  If you can't use a screwdriver, I can't help with that.  A given budget typically goes about 20% further if you build your own.

    Also, I take it that you're in Britain if you're quoting prices in pounds.  Presumably that means you can buy from British sites?

    I appreciate that Quizzical.

    I have 2 hands that are useless for that sort of thing . I can guess its fiddly but I can also guess its far more beneficial to build your own cost wise.
    OK

    For a grand you can buy a top dollar pc even prebuilt, you want to look for specs like I5-6600k / GTX 970 / 16gb ram / 256/512 SSD with a 1+tb of HDD for storage space (dont store things like pictures and documents on ssd)

    As a guy has recently build his own (and others) i can say for sure that for that budget you will get a pc that today will run pretty much any released game on max>ultra, and will likely hold out for a good 3 years, and then just need the odd part replacing.

    My suggestion would be either one of the 2 pcs 

    https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/overclocked-custom-gaming-pc-uk-performancegtkz170 if your nvidia preferred
    or
    https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/overclocked-custom-gaming-pc-uk-amdvisionblack if you dont mind amd and get a little more extra due to the lesser cost.

    Both these pcs are built and overclocked, i use scan as i live jsut about 20 miles away, and in my pc i have their overclocked bundle (so motherboard, memory and CPU) then i bought the rest of the part seperate and put it all together, the problem with self builds a lot of time are mainly due to the CPU seating and bad wiring in my experience, but my baby works like a dream and runs nice at 55-60c at full load :)

    is my PC with the specs by side, 
    my mancave :)

    All in so far im down about 2 grand but almost finished, but thankfully this baby will keep me happy for some time


    on a side note.... 
    looks like i was right about the psu, :awesome:  -0 But another reason why i like 3xs systems they dont scrimp on the PSU - In fact if you look at them builds they only use a 550w for an Overcloked pc which says it all about your current

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  • DonY81DonY81 Member UncommonPosts: 398
    Quazal.A said:
    DonY81 said:
    Quizzical said:
    DonY81 said:
    This has been a bit of an education so thanks for that. Im seriously unsure now what to do overall. What a pickle.
    Reason being my wife mentioned to me. ''It seems your having to upgrade your PC and you have the PS4 you barely use''
    reason I don't use the PS4 is because the games a silly money and ive been a PC gamer for over 15 years.

    I will buy a new PC but want to keep it around the £1000 mark. I know my processer is getting old so after you take into account graphics, PSU, processor it starts to add up. Let alone the fact that its already 4 years old
    That's a large enough budget to get yourself something very nice that will last a long time.

    Are you willing to assemble the computer yourself?  If you don't know what parts to get, I could help with that.  If you can't use a screwdriver, I can't help with that.  A given budget typically goes about 20% further if you build your own.

    Also, I take it that you're in Britain if you're quoting prices in pounds.  Presumably that means you can buy from British sites?

    I appreciate that Quizzical.

    I have 2 hands that are useless for that sort of thing . I can guess its fiddly but I can also guess its far more beneficial to build your own cost wise.
    OK

    For a grand you can buy a top dollar pc even prebuilt, you want to look for specs like I5-6600k / GTX 970 / 16gb ram / 256/512 SSD with a 1+tb of HDD for storage space (dont store things like pictures and documents on ssd)

    As a guy has recently build his own (and others) i can say for sure that for that budget you will get a pc that today will run pretty much any released game on max>ultra, and will likely hold out for a good 3 years, and then just need the odd part replacing.

    My suggestion would be either one of the 2 pcs 

    https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/overclocked-custom-gaming-pc-uk-performancegtkz170 if your nvidia preferred
    or
    https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/overclocked-custom-gaming-pc-uk-amdvisionblack if you dont mind amd and get a little more extra due to the lesser cost.

    Both these pcs are built and overclocked, i use scan as i live jsut about 20 miles away, and in my pc i have their overclocked bundle (so motherboard, memory and CPU) then i bought the rest of the part seperate and put it all together, the problem with self builds a lot of time are mainly due to the CPU seating and bad wiring in my experience, but my baby works like a dream and runs nice at 55-60c at full load :)

    is my PC with the specs by side, 
    my mancave :)

    All in so far im down about 2 grand but almost finished, but thankfully this baby will keep me happy for some time


    on a side note.... 
    looks like i was right about the psu, :awesome:  -0 But another reason why i like 3xs systems they dont scrimp on the PSU - In fact if you look at them builds they only use a 550w for an Overcloked pc which says it all about your current


    wow  that's a pretty savage setup you have there. Ill check those links out. Previously ive always used novatech.
    Thanks for your help. Another Brit by the way.

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