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Doom 4 putting Overwatch to shame.

WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 18,393

Looks amazing ,very high detail.I think many will like the sheer carnage of the Chainsaw :)

Trying to compare this with a Blizzard product is impossible,Blizzard continues to make low poly games.Nobody can tell me these graphics don't make a difference because they make a HUGE difference to your gaming experience.

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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,163
    Doom 4 is an amazing looking, high quality, AAA tech demo of iD Software's new graphics engine. 

    Well played.  =)
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 10,290
    edited January 2016
    What? Why would you compare this to Overwatch?

    edit - Compare this to Destiny or something.
  • IkonisIkonis Member UncommonPosts: 245
    Enjoy your graphics. I'll spend my money on a game I won't beat in a day and never play again.
  • IkonisIkonis Member UncommonPosts: 245
    Oh and btw any graphical professional will tell you that it doesn't matter how realistic or high poly/textured it is, it will be meaningless without style and substance.
  • acidbloodacidblood Member RarePosts: 878
    Engine looks awesome, can't wait till someone makes a game with it (https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/05/24).

    The gore looks over done, and it seems a bit slowly paced for doom game... oh well, should still be fun.

    Also, yeah, why are you comparing this to Overwatch? They are different games for different audiences, and different hardware requirements.

  • goboygogoboygo Member RarePosts: 2,140
    Ya but is it perma locked at 60fps?
  • TiamatRoarTiamatRoar Member RarePosts: 1,597
    edited January 2016
    Do you like... really hate Overwatch or something that you needed to smack on it in comparison to a game that isn't even remotely in the same genre?  I can't possibly see how or why it'd be relevant to Doom 4 at all, otherwise.
  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130
    edited January 2016
    Nice graphics although way too violent for me.
  • josko9josko9 Member RarePosts: 577
    Everything is better than Overwatch.
  • GestankfaustGestankfaust Member UncommonPosts: 1,989
    bcbully said:
    What? Why would you compare this to Overwatch?

    edit - Compare this to Destiny or something.
    Because it's Wizardry...

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  • AoriAori Member EpicPosts: 4,182
    Looks great but to much realistic gore for me. 
  • holdenhamletholdenhamlet Member EpicPosts: 3,766
    There's a good reason Blizzard makes everything with low poly graphics- it's so people with low or midrange computers can play the games.

    I honestly believe most of what made WoW so successful for so long is that you can run the game on almost anything.
  • blueturtle13blueturtle13 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,702
    After reading the write up in this months issue of GameInformer about this game this will not be like Doom 3. (Which was great imo) It will be fast paced and visceral. They went back to the inspiration of Doom 1 and 2.  Also Modding is a part of the game from the get go so no, one play through and done. The ability to create levels easily was something they worked hard on. On my top 5 list for games this year. Really excited to play it.  

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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 20,657
    Doom was one of my favorite games. I loved making maps for it with the editor. It was a fast paced heart-pumping action-fest.

    Doom 4 doesn't appeal to me at all. The gore is unappealing. The thing about the original Doom gore is that it was cartoony and fake. Cartoon violence I can handle. Simulated gore-fests do nothing for me. There are a ton of those on Steam already. On top of all that the game play looks sluggish compared to the original.

    In short, Doom's original appeal wasn't the gore. It was the game play. If this Doom doesn't have that then it's just riding on the coattails of it's parent.
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  • BaitnessBaitness Member UncommonPosts: 656
    edited January 2016
    While I agree that Doom 4 visually blows Overwatch out of the water, OW isn't trying to compete with Doom 4.  They are trying to make an FPS game that is an esport.  They are trying to compete with Counter-Strike: Global Offensive.

    I am sure they realized that CSGO is unique among FPS games in having a strong esports component, but I really think they did not understand why.  Competing with CSGO is just about impossible for other FPS games right now.  It isn't because CSGO offers a more tactical experience, more challenging gunplay, or that it better rewards skill (though CSGO does do all these things).  The reason CSGO is such a hugely watched esports game is gambling.

    CSGO has an enormous gambling scene.  Weapon skins that drop in the game can sell for hundreds of dollars in steam funds (though most just cost a few cents).  These steam funds can be used to purchase any game on steam (or other weapon skins).  Right now there are tons of sites that allow players to bet these dropped skins on professional matches.  It is not directly gambling money as the money never leaves steam.  There is nothing in place to stop children from gambling, and it seems the allure of gambling combined with their love of gaming makes for an incredibly addictive combination.  I forget the last time it happened, but when a match is not on the major gambling sites the viewership is very oddly low.

    When there are major tournaments (tournaments sponsored by valve) then just watching has a chance to get you a dropped skin.  You can watch in the CSGO client or on twitch (they link to steam).  These dropped skins have the potential to be some of the most expensive, as they are labelled as 'souvenir' items and given a special logo with the signature of a professional player.  These items are incredibly rare, and sell for quite a bit.  When they are on good weapons, have a rare skin, and have the signature of a favorite player, they are worth absolutely insane amounts (a factory new souvenir dragonlore awp from before player signatures sold for $10,000).

    Overwatch has no way to compete with CSGO until it offers a way for children to gamble.  I don't see any way for it to happen right now (nor do I think it should, I think it is a huge problem), so Overwatch won't be competing with CSGO anytime soon.
  • GroqstrongGroqstrong Member RarePosts: 548
    Lame comparison.  The two games are not even the same thing.  Doom does look amazing.
  • DarkVagabondDarkVagabond Member UncommonPosts: 332
    Title is clickbait and author is bad. I guess I clicked though.
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 4,867
    Hearthstone putting chess to shame
  • linadragonlinadragon Member RarePosts: 589
    Games are not the "same" despite both being shooters. One is a hero based objective based shooter and the other is just a typical arena shooter style game (ut style etc) 
  • linadragonlinadragon Member RarePosts: 589
    I always love people that go on and on and on and know next to nothing about what "low-poly" actually is or anything of the sort. Overwatch is NOT by any means a low-polygon count game despite you not liking the more rich and vibrant color scheme and the general art style. Using a different set of textures and shaders does not make polygon count rise up or suddenly move down and the actual level of detail on weapons in overwatch can be seen as can the environments. 

    As such textures + shaders =/= polygon count and most of people's assumptions are completely off base because their so called judgements are simplistic at best and based off what they think they know and not what is actually going on. Texture differences, shader differences, and lighting differences can make the same exact same game look entirely different. If we broke down the game models they'd likely be near the same poly count between the two games. 

    Simply put while Doom 4 looks fantastic it is not due to a higher polygon count, but rather differences in lighting, shaders, and the overall type of textures/art style used that makes it look "visually" better to most people's perceived eye. 
  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,768
    I didn't like Doom3 so I won't be getting this one.

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  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    I'd wait until the game is a thing first, seen too many 'demo's that just didn't look like the finished product, only have to look at games like Watchdogs etc. and then there are the system requirements, chances are to even approach that level of detail you will need a high end rig with dual 980ti's or something equally stupid, which probably means that to get those kinds of graphics, it will be a PC only game.
    Also, the tech demo of 1080p at 60fps was it run at that resolution because of the system requirements, would you need for instance, twin titan gtx's to run it at 2560x1440? do many people still run games on their systems at just 1080?
    Probably irrelevant though as i doubt the finished product will look as good as the tech demo, they hardly ever do.
  • Solar_ProphetSolar_Prophet Member EpicPosts: 1,956
    Doom 4 looks awesome, but comparing it to Overwatch is just silly. Two entirely different genres. Besides, everyone knows that Shadow Warrior 2 is where it's at!

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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,126
    Doom 4 looks awesome, but comparing it to Overwatch is just silly. Two entirely different genres. Besides, everyone knows that Shadow Warrior 2 is where it's at!
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  • FdzzaiglFdzzaigl Member UncommonPosts: 2,433
    What a pointless comparison.

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