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TasiaZaulTasiaZaul Member UncommonPosts: 9
Here I was thinking this might be a game worth trying out and then I come across this million dollar giveaway.  The Eligibility is somewhat confusing but it does seem to be only eligible for residents of North America (because that is the norm) except for the ones in states who don't like their residents getting money for nothing!  I genuinely did not expect Australians to be considered eligible even though there is no reason why not.

But what really upsets me is while all these players from Non-Eligible locations are excluded from the $1,000,000 they are also excluded from winning a share of 3,000,000 CROWNS!  Am I mistaken or is this not in-game money?  

Why on this planet would every financially paid up member of ESO not be eligilble to win in-game money?

It does not make a good impression with me.   I would not expect to win any money from North America but I would expect to be eligible for all and any in-game prizes.

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  • tom_goretom_gore Member UncommonPosts: 2,001
    edited January 2016
    Don't know what you're talking about. I'm from Finland and was eligible, checking the list of countries I can see most countries are eligible where ESO is available.

    Could it have something to do with Australian legislation perhaps?

    Anyhow, the chance to win anything is so minuscule you're blowing off steam for nothing, really. Enjoy the game, it's actually pretty good as far as MMOs are concerned.
  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    TasiaZaul said:
    Here I was thinking this might be a game worth trying out and then I come across this million dollar giveaway. ...
    This is one of the most bizarre reasons for "disliking" a game that I have ever seen !

    I am at loss for words...
  • TasiaZaulTasiaZaul Member UncommonPosts: 9
    TasiaZaul said:
    Here I was thinking this might be a game worth trying out and then I come across this million dollar giveaway. ...
    This is one of the most bizarre reasons for "disliking" a game that I have ever seen !

    I am at loss for words…
    Vive la difference!  :-)  As everyone who were not eligible for winning the US dollars were also disqualified from winning any CROWNS for spending in game, it reflects very poorly on the people who run this game and  how level the playing field they offer may or may not be.
  • NeopsychNeopsych Member UncommonPosts: 324
    TasiaZaul said:
    Here I was thinking this might be a game worth trying out and then I come across this million dollar giveaway.  The Eligibility is somewhat confusing but it does seem to be only eligible for residents of North America (because that is the norm) except for the ones in states who don't like their residents getting money for nothing!  I genuinely did not expect Australians to be considered eligible even though there is no reason why not.

    But what really upsets me is while all these players from Non-Eligible locations are excluded from the $1,000,000 they are also excluded from winning a share of 3,000,000 CROWNS!  Am I mistaken or is this not in-game money?  

    Why on this planet would every financially paid up member of ESO not be eligilble to win in-game money?

    It does not make a good impression with me.   I would not expect to win any money from North America but I would expect to be eligible for all and any in-game prizes.
    Firstly, the website tells you the reason why and it's essentially due to the international taxation laws that apply to many countries. This would mean that the company would also need to pay a significant tax to the countries government . They choose not to incur this cost and that's a choice they re entitle to make.

    Secondly, why on earth would the conditions on a marketing promotion have by bearing on the quality of the game itself.

    stop whinging and give the game a proper go

    To err is human....to play is divine

  • JudgeUKJudgeUK Member RarePosts: 1,627
    TasiaZaul said:
    Here I was thinking this might be a game worth trying out and then I come across this million dollar giveaway. ...
    This is one of the most bizarre reasons for "disliking" a game that I have ever seen !

    I am at loss for words...
    Wait 'til you get all the posts from the people who didn't get anything!
  • GremeGreme Member UncommonPosts: 66
    edited January 2016
    tom_gore said:
    Don't know what you're talking about. I'm from Finland and was eligible, checking the list of countries I can see most countries are eligible where ESO is available.

    Could it have something to do with Australian legislation perhaps?

    Actually most of countries where ESO is available are not eligible, just look at European Union, only 5 out of 28 member countries are eligible.

    However you are right about that it is all about each country legislation. I live in Poland and after they announced the contest I took some time to do research on this topic. Basically to get permission to run this kind of sweepstakes here, Zenimax would have to pay a fee of 10% of entire prize pool value and present bank guarantee for entire prize pool (that's another few % of bank costs). That means it would cost them over 100,000 USD to run the sweepstakes here. My guess would be that other countries have either similiar fees or simply do not allow to run sweepstakes with cash prizes to be run by private companies at all.

    TasiaZaul said:
    But what really upsets me is while all these players from Non-Eligible locations are excluded from the $1,000,000 they are also excluded from winning a share of 3,000,000 CROWNS!  Am I mistaken or is this not in-game money?  

    Why on this planet would every financially paid up member of ESO not be eligilble to win in-game money?

    The Crowns are in-game money, however going by above mentioned Poland example, Zenimax would have to:

    a) make two sweepstakes instead of one, giving 1,000,000 USD in first and Crowns in second,

    b) still pay 10% of entire prize pool value of Crowns contest

    That would cost them 2,500 USD (3,000 crowns is 25 USD if I am not mistaken) just to run it in one extra country, imagine how much it could be if they tried to include more of them.

    So while I was certainly upset I couldnt participate in the contest, I do understand that it is simply economically not viable to run it my country, because of my country laws. And such thing certainly wont prevent me from playing the game.

  • baphametbaphamet Member RarePosts: 3,311
    TasiaZaul said:
    Here I was thinking this might be a game worth trying out and then I come across this million dollar giveaway. ...
    This is one of the most bizarre reasons for "disliking" a game that I have ever seen !

    I am at loss for words...
    i see this kind of thing on these forums all of the time actually, people will find any reason they can to complain. like the thread someone made saying they were disappointed in the game based solely on how fast they could DL it lol




  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,450
    As soon as I don't win the 1,000,000 I will cease liking this game.
  • carotidcarotid Member UncommonPosts: 425
    TasiaZaul said:
    Here I was thinking this might be a game worth trying out and then I come across this million dollar giveaway.  The Eligibility is somewhat confusing but it does seem to be only eligible for residents of North America (because that is the norm) except for the ones in states who don't like their residents getting money for nothing!  I genuinely did not expect Australians to be considered eligible even though there is no reason why not.

    But what really upsets me is while all these players from Non-Eligible locations are excluded from the $1,000,000 they are also excluded from winning a share of 3,000,000 CROWNS!  Am I mistaken or is this not in-game money?  

    Why on this planet would every financially paid up member of ESO not be eligilble to win in-game money?

    It does not make a good impression with me.   I would not expect to win any money from North America but I would expect to be eligible for all and any in-game prizes.
    Stupid whine is stupid.
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    IDK i don't make rules or laws but i can assume that perhaps some states do not accept these type of gimmicks to protect the people from foolish spending but then again,they likely have 20 casinos open 24/7.

    So who really knows what goes on in the minds of people ...scary to think.

    I am always a skeptic,i just somehow never trust those Kinsmen selling tickets to win a car or a house or a boat,i always feel like if there is any chance at all they can pull off a scam,they will as people are just greedy like that when comes to money.

    Anyhow,i hope somebody ,a normal gamer not related to anyone in the Zeni max family wins the million,then let's hope they actually get it.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 17,785
    It's not like they hate some countries (although personally I can think of a couple to hate myself) it's the laws regulating your country, province or state that prevents eligibility - and yes, crowns too since they also have a monetary value and are subject to the same laws and regulations.

    Because I live in Canada if I win, I'll have to answer a math "skill testing question" because our law requires it and even here, residents of Quebec are not eligible at all due to provincial regulations.
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  • RadixMalorumRadixMalorum Member UncommonPosts: 143
    Iselin said:
    [snip]
    Because I live in Canada if I win, I'll have to answer a math "skill testing question" because our law requires it and even here, residents of Quebec are not eligible at all due to provincial regulations.
    Can you imagine winning but getting the math question wrong? Oh the rage...
  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,450
    Iselin said:
    [snip]
    Because I live in Canada if I win, I'll have to answer a math "skill testing question" because our law requires it and even here, residents of Quebec are not eligible at all due to provincial regulations.
    Can you imagine winning but getting the math question wrong? Oh the rage...
    Is this for real?   What skill testing question do you have to answer?   Very few Americans would ever win anything if this was a requirement in the States. 
  • RadixMalorumRadixMalorum Member UncommonPosts: 143
    edited January 2016
    flizzer said:
    Iselin said:
    [snip]
    Because I live in Canada if I win, I'll have to answer a math "skill testing question" because our law requires it and even here, residents of Quebec are not eligible at all due to provincial regulations.
    Can you imagine winning but getting the math question wrong? Oh the rage...
    Is this for real?   What skill testing question do you have to answer?   Very few Americans would ever win anything if this was a requirement in the States. 
    If I remember correctly (left Canada in 1998) it can be as simple as 'what is 1 + 1' . Yes it's for real, you can't win anything for nothing, it has to have some nod towards a test of skill.

    [Edit] I was wrong. It requires at least 3 operations.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skill_testing_question


  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 17,785
    flizzer said:
    Iselin said:
    [snip]
    Because I live in Canada if I win, I'll have to answer a math "skill testing question" because our law requires it and even here, residents of Quebec are not eligible at all due to provincial regulations.
    Can you imagine winning but getting the math question wrong? Oh the rage...
    Is this for real?   What skill testing question do you have to answer?   Very few Americans would ever win anything if this was a requirement in the States. 
    Yeah it's real lol: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skill_testing_question

    But it's also one of those nudge, nudge, wink, wink, kind of requirements... it's never a tough question.
    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

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  • RadixMalorumRadixMalorum Member UncommonPosts: 143
    Iselin said:
    flizzer said:
    Iselin said:
    [snip]
    Because I live in Canada if I win, I'll have to answer a math "skill testing question" because our law requires it and even here, residents of Quebec are not eligible at all due to provincial regulations.
    Can you imagine winning but getting the math question wrong? Oh the rage...
    Is this for real?   What skill testing question do you have to answer?   Very few Americans would ever win anything if this was a requirement in the States. 
    Yeah it's real lol: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skill_testing_question

    But it's also one of those nudge, nudge, wink, wink, kind of requirements... it's never a tough question.
    An example of a Canadian claiming a prize ;)


  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619
    Yes, blame the game and its developers and not your countries government for making laws that restrict you from getting the prize. 


    "Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game."  - SEANMCAD

  • TamanousTamanous Member RarePosts: 3,024
    Talonsin said:
    Yes, blame the game and its developers and not your countries government for making laws that restrict you from getting the prize. 


    In a world where any information is just a Google search away people still apparently enjoy posting their ignorance of facts on forums. This hilarity was all over the this forum and ESO main forums. Thread after thread, all with the same answers to the question yet the threads keep coming.


    You stay sassy!

  • keithiankeithian Member UncommonPosts: 3,187
    flizzer said:
    As soon as I don't win the 1,000,000 I will cease liking this game.
    LOL that was funny. I now have a reason to hate the game as well. :-)

    There Is Always Hope!

  • GestankfaustGestankfaust Member UncommonPosts: 1,989
    flizzer said:
    Iselin said:
    [snip]
    Because I live in Canada if I win, I'll have to answer a math "skill testing question" because our law requires it and even here, residents of Quebec are not eligible at all due to provincial regulations.
    Can you imagine winning but getting the math question wrong? Oh the rage...
    Is this for real?   What skill testing question do you have to answer?   Very few Americans would ever win anything if this was a requirement in the States. 
    So side splittingly funny. You must be a comedian...

    "This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."

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