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GW2 HoT or ESO help decide please

criscoduck09criscoduck09 Member UncommonPosts: 6
edited December 2015 in Guild Wars 2
I love guild wars 2, i have 1 80 pretty well geared.  I am not in a guild, I do not PvP.  I enjoy the game very very much and have recently returned.

Should I pick up Heart of Thrones.

Or...

I love all things elder scrolls.  I played all the single player games.  Daggerfall is still my all time favorite game and I played Skyrim until my fingers bled.

Should I pick up ESO for the 20 odd bucks its going for now.

I have to choose one or the other.

Help!
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  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,450
    I love GW2 also but almost exclusively play in WvW. I dislike the dynamic questing in GW2. I don't think it does a good job of telling story.  

    Recently I started playing ESO heavily and loving it.  Questing and exploration in this game is what I wish GW2 had.  The combat system took some getting used to but getting better at it. I don't plan on PvPing in ESO either but you dont have to.  The questing is top notch. I urge you to give it a try and believe you will like it.  I get a Skyrim Online vibe from this. 
  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 3,097
    You will get more bang for your buck from buying ESO, its well worth trying out- a steal for $20.
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  • Alber_gamerAlber_gamer Member UncommonPosts: 588
    edited December 2015
    HoT is really good, and really easy to get into. There's no tiered gear grind or levelling up to do, so you'll play exactly what you want to play and what you enjoy most. It also removed my only gripe with the original game, the annoying "heart grinding" and the story is actually quite nice, so I recommend that.

    In the other hand, I bought ESO for 14.90€ in some sale and I regretted not having spent those in watching a movie at the cinema with some burger and fries instead. Very dull, bland, classes are out of balance and all in all it was a disappointing experience.

    In the end it's all about tastes, so you have to find out what's yours..

    My opinion is my own. I respect all other opinions and views equally, but keep in mind that my opinion will always be the best for me. That's why it's my opinion.

  • PepeqPepeq Member UncommonPosts: 1,977
    I love guild wars 2, i have 1 80 pretty well geared.  I am not in a guild, I do not PvP.  I enjoy the game very very much and have recently returned.
    You answered your own question.

    Honestly you can play ESO later when you're not so into GW2 anymore.  Silly to hop games when you are happy right where you are right now.
  • d_20d_20 Member RarePosts: 1,878
    ESO on sale is an awesome value. I enjoy it much more than I ever did GW2, though that's just my personal preference.

    But you should not expect ESO to be an Elder Scrolls game like Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, etc. It's an mmorpg set in the ES universe. I love it because I love mmorpg in addition to Elder Scrolls games. If you put them both together, you get ESO.

    The people who seem most disappointed with ESO seem to have expected Skyrim online. That is not what ESO is.


  • AI724AI724 Member UncommonPosts: 249

    Should I pick up Heart of Thrones.

    Or...

    Should I pick up ESO for the 20 odd bucks its going for now.

    I have to choose one or the other.

    Help!
    Don't make the same mistake I made when I picked up ESO during sales instead of the other game (not HoT). ESO story and graphic is cool but the combat is got to go! To me, the skill and combat is boring and makes me fall as sleep trying to fight mobs.
    Note that I already own GW2 and $50 for HoT expansion does not appeal to me either.

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  • YaevinduskYaevindusk Member RarePosts: 2,094
    edited December 2015
    Won't speak for Elder Scrolls, but Heart of Thorns is pretty much nothing like the base version of Guild Wars 2 unless they have patched it since I played.  You will spend 90% of your time running for your life and being unable to complete events.  In addition to hoping you or your friends or any randoms you see get killed before you while you run away.  The whole basis of the game is to kite and hope over powered ranged attacks from plants and vines don't two shot you the whole time.  Though when I played almost no one had their advanced classes unlocked, so maybe things are a bit easier now that they're about.

    My recommendation would be playing or switching to a ranged class if you do play it.
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  • BaitnessBaitness Member UncommonPosts: 675
    I can't comment on HoT but I can tell you quickly what I found best and worst about ESO.

    The worst aspect of it was that I never can get as immersed into it as I can the single player games.  In those games I will just wander, whatever I find will be level scaled, I can just set off in a direction and go on an adventure.  In ESO I cannot do that so much, there is level scaling only in the DLC (it will be coming to everything eventually is my understanding), and though the game supports exploring to an extent, each large zone is walled in with a zonewide questline you follow from start to finish.

    The best aspect of it is the insane amount of content you get.  The game world is massive, every npc is voiced and lip synced, quests are almost all multipart and involved.  You get such a large part of the elder scrolls universe, you will see familiar places, and even though the zones are split among factions you do see every zone with every character.  There is enough to keep you busy here for a long, long while.
  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter Member UncommonPosts: 3,066
    If you like GW2 and Dry Top/Silverwastes, picking up HoT seems a good choice.  
    Joining a medium size-big guild that organizes map metas is a guarantee of getting stuff done, but not necessary.
    Hot can be bought by around $35.

    I'm not sure how ESO compares to the other Elder Scroll games.
    $20 for a game isn't bad.

    Can always pick both.

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  • avelarthavelarth Member UncommonPosts: 17
    edited January 2016
    ESO is better. becouse ESO going better every day. GW2 opposite, becoming a  bad game. 6 months ago gw2 has decent pvp, but now gw2 pvp really unbalanced, has a annoying meta, uneven mathcmaking, dosen of bugs, OP advanced classes(to sell expantion). i dont know much ESO but i cant suggest gw2 right now. it has a plant dragon in it, i think developers very high while they're developing the game.

  • ZzadZzad Member UncommonPosts: 1,401
    GW2 HoT all the way.

  • StarS0ftStarS0ft Member UncommonPosts: 124
    I love guild wars 2, i have 1 80 pretty well geared.  I am not in a guild, I do not PvP.  I enjoy the game very very much and have recently returned.

    Should I pick up Heart of Thrones.

    Or...

    I love all things elder scrolls.  I played all the single player games.  Daggerfall is still my all time favorite game and I played Skyrim until my fingers bled.

    Should I pick up ESO for the 20 odd bucks its going for now.

    I have to choose one or the other.

    Help!
    I enjoed HoT very much and would recommend it definetly. 
    New maps are outstanding, story is very good, raids are great, etc.

    From other side: ESO is a game with interesting questing and huge content. If you can adapt yourself to a dull combat system and average animation it's definetly worth to try, it's just $20 now
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,804
    ESO for lore, pvp, skill system, combat, no cash to gold conversion and large quarterly DLCs. 

    GW2 for casual world event play. Find a zerg event train run around hit button and profit.  If you like to spend cash, you can buy everything in game you want including leveling. 
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  • nate1980nate1980 Member UncommonPosts: 1,992
    ESO has a pretty good story and content delivery system. However, the thing I enjoy most about MMORPG's, ESO lacked. That is character development. They give you the freedom to learn what ever weapon you want, but you're restricted to one class. Not such a big deal, except you can only equip a set amount of skills due to the action bars being extremely small. You also get just enough points to master less than a handful of skill lines, but there are many more skill lines than you can master. So you have to carefully plan out your character to ensure you don't gimp yourself. And if you're anything like me, and have some sort of class theme in mind that you may of been able to play in other TES games, forget about it, it's likely gimp to all hell in ESO. Overall, I was very dissatisfied to the point of leaving the game. To each their own though. Perhaps you will be easier to please in that department and will be like one of my friends, who enjoyed the hell out of the game for about a year.
  • nationalcitynationalcity Member UncommonPosts: 501
    GW2 was fun for me till I hit HOT then it becomes a massive grind to do anything......

    But I guess it's the same for ESO once you hit Vet levels so pick your poison.......
  • rodingorodingo Member RarePosts: 2,870
    Since you have a lvl 80 toon in GW2 and haven't played ESO yet then I would honestly say to flip a coin.  You said it yourself you love GW2 and getting HoT is basically getting more of the same.  Not too shabby if you already love the game.  On the other hand, ESO will have that new game smell for a little while depending on what you like about MMOs and what you like about Elder Scrolls games.  Keep in mind that the only thing that ESO really shares with the other Elder Scrolls games is the lore.  Don't go in expecting to kill an NPC and take over their house as your own nor doing anything that is Thieves Guild or Dark Brotherhood related, yet.  Not until what, another 3-9 months? Not sure what their release schedule is for that, but you will pay extra for that whenever they do put it in.

    Other than that, both games are pretty much equal amounts of p2w, if you care, which is fairly minimal too nothing at all since you can get just about all gear except certain cosmetics earned in both games.  You already  know like anyone else who actually plays GW2 that you don't need to spend money outside the box price to enjoy and to be on equal footing as to everyone else who plays.  I assume the same with ESO but I could be wrong.

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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Since you enjoy GW2, get HoT. If you tire of it later you can get ESO then.

    HoT is pretty good, the mastery points might feel a bit frindy though but I rally like how they handled gliding. :) Flying mounts in many games have no feeling, just another dimension.
  • NomadMorlockNomadMorlock Member UncommonPosts: 815
    edited January 2016
    ESO for certain. Best MMO currently out there with more character development than any other. Massive amount of content and much of it a challenge. Great immersion and scale. 
  • ThornrageThornrage Member UncommonPosts: 659
    ESO for certain. Best MMO currently out there with more character development than any other. Massive amount of content and much of it a challenge. Great immersion and scale. 
    This. ESO for sure.

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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 5,572
    I  found HoT to be a nightmare as a solo player that started a little later.  Apparently you can work around that with the group finder, but I haven't been tempted to return since the final boss fight of the story bugged out and there was no save point on the asinine prefights.
  • EsprakamomotEsprakamomot Member UncommonPosts: 13
    If u want something totally new game go for black desert online
  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,852
    I haven't played GW2 since before going F2P. I have tried ESO. I couldn't get into ESO because the UI felt unwieldy. But the character creation and crafting seems to have me wanting to try again.

    GW2. It was a decent game, I've enjoyed it a lot in the past. I've been paying attention to the forums regarding HoT and it's been a very mixed bag. So for now, I've stayed away. In the end, I'll get it when it's on sale, I guess. From what I can tell, not having played HoT yet, it's going to be one of those things where if you liked GW2, then HoT will be enjoyable, if you didn't, HoT won't change that for you.
  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,852
    If u want something totally new game go for black desert online
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  • heerobyaheerobya Member UncommonPosts: 465
    Where do people find ESO for $20?

    Not those illegitimate sites like G2A.
  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    I  found HoT to be a nightmare as a solo player that started a little later.  Apparently you can work around that with the group finder, but I haven't been tempted to return since the final boss fight of the story bugged out and there was no save point on the asinine prefights.
    You don't really need that unless you play odd hours, possible excepted the last zone on none weekends.

    As for the personal story it is about the same difficulty as the original one was just after release, way harder then most content now but far easier then it was during beta week 1. Having another player or 2 helping eachother out will make it easy though and I guess that is what you are talking about.  To be honest have I only played through half it it myself solo and about a third afterwards with my guildies, a mission was initially bugged at the release so I decided to wait with the rest and I been busy earning mastery points since then. But the only mission I had any problems soling was the one where you escorted glints egg, died like 20 times in the cavern... Otherwise I had no real problems alone (with no wiki, just playing), but I guess it might get harder towards the end.

    What is really hard to solo is the heroic challenges in the open world, some of them have veterans spawning on the points and actually killing the boss before they respawn is extremely hard solo. But I have done a bunch solo with my theif, hard but not impossible. Playing with a friend or 2 makes things a lot easier, otherwise you might need to wait until lsomeone else comes around.

    The open world dynamic events are mainly set around specific hubs where people rally to, you might have to wait with a specific hub until a few players show up but there is always a few going on except in the last zone (the mega servers is somewhat broken there so a soloplayer might be forced to only do that one in the weekends and wait out the timer of the old zone before getting into one with the chance for completion).

    The new zones are huge, the new mastery point are account wide and should keep you busy for a long time. Being in a guild helps in HoT but it isn't a must. Solo exploration is pretty challenging but fun in my opinion, always done the exploration part when none of my guildies been online. Some kind of stealth makes things a lot easier though (if you playing a class without stealth then the norn elite skill Snow leopard makes things a lot simpler).
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