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a. boxy graphics b. bland environments c. not sure if overcrowding exists still, but it didnt back when i played it.
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Jump in and try it for free. On the US servers, all the land is gone except for the newbie 8x8 little farms so paying for a monthly sub is useless unless you plan to buy/sell apex and get some gold to buy a plot or two. About half the servers left are dying out and have never hit HIGH population even during prime time. New mounts keep getting added to the store for large and larger amounts of loyalty tokens which sucks. The best mounts started at 300 but are now 450 tokens.
I jumped back it after the server merge but the populations have gone done quite a bit since then. I only craft, do trade runs and fish to get my crafter fix on but its getting harder to log in. The gear level continues to rise and unless you join a solid guild who will help you get geared, you will get owned in pvp.
Again I would suggest jumping in for free and seeing if you like the changes before throwing any money at it.
I agree, I think the gear cap is too high. The concept is nice, but the game lacks playability sometimes, without good gear it's difficult to see and participate in all the features of the game.
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I see players are still blaming Trion for their spending habbits and compusive behavior. No one is forcing you to p2w to keep up with the Jones's, that is YOUR choice. As an alternative, you can set your own goals and achieve them with the time and your own financial means.
If you can remove the p2W/monetisation arguement, Archeage is still the purest/best MMO on the market. It is a true virtual world you live and play a part in. It is the only game on the market right now which provides the MMO experience as it was originally intended. No other MMO provides the depth, immersion or long term playablity that AA provides. Just one big non-instanced world which you can use to fit your own play style.
It is sad to hear all the hate when what is being hated is a choice of the player to partake in. Given that there is NO ALTERNATIVE to Archeage at the moment, what you are left with are shallow themeparks. How players can write off this truly unique game because they can't control their impulses is beyond me. It is even worse that the game has such a horrible reputation when players play a part in feeding it themselves simply because they are not patient enough to earn it over time. Just play the game at your own pace, forget about your neighbor and how they got their gear and you'll be fine.
Also you asked the wrong forums, as the players here have an extreme vendetta against Archeage and will flame ANYONE who defends or speaks positive about it.
So true.
Also reading the opinions that target Archeage mainly because of its monetary system someone would think EU / NA is full of socialist and communists in RL (but for some reason nowhere no such parties win any ellections) lol (based on the view that in capitaistic world is absolutely legit to invest money instead of work to progress) Just a sursprising observation ....
I see players are still blaming Trion for their spending habbits and compusive behavior. No one is forcing you to p2w to keep up with the Jones's, that is YOUR choice. As an alternative, you can set your own goals and achieve them with the time and your own financial means.
If you can remove the p2W/monetisation arguement, Archeage is still the purest/best MMO on the market. It is a true virtual world you live and play a part in. It is the only game on the market right now which provides the MMO experience as it was originally intended. No other MMO provides the depth, immersion or long term playablity that AA provides. Just one big non-instanced world which you can use to fit your own play style.
It is sad to hear all the hate when what is being hated is a choice of the player to partake in. Given that there is NO ALTERNATIVE to Archeage at the moment, what you are left with are shallow themeparks. How players can write off this truly unique game because they can't control their impulses is beyond me. It is even worse that the game has such a horrible reputation when players play a part in feeding it themselves simply because they are not patient enough to earn it over time. Just play the game at your own pace, forget about your neighbor and how they got their gear and you'll be fine.
Also you asked the wrong forums, as the players here have an extreme vendetta against Archeage and will flame ANYONE who defends or speaks positive about it.
So true.
Also reading the opinions that target Archeage mainly because of its monetary system someone would think EU / NA is full of socialist and communists in RL (but for some reason nowhere no such parties win any ellections) lol (based on the view that in capitaistic world is absolutely legit to invest money instead of work to progress) Just a sursprising observation ....
Games are different from life. In games, you expect a level playing field. In fact one of the main draws of games is that they are a great escape from life's inequalities.
But unfortunatley the p2w aspect isn't the worst of Archeage's problems. It's a zerg fest filled with exploits in an extremely hackable engine that, when combined with the p2w aspect, has resulted in probably the most unfair playing field in any MMO ever.
"Given that there is NO ALTERNATIVE to Archeage at the moment, what you are left with are shallow themeparks. "
The alternative is to just not play an MMO for the time-being. I've been playing SMITE and Hearthstone and single player games for many months now and it's a decent substitute for my MMO hobby.
I'll be diving headfirst into Black Desert when it comes out, though, which is soon, thankfully.
Single most bland experience I've ever had. I wasn't expecting UO. But I was expecting better. I login time to time to check stuff out...cash out item codes etc.
I try to like the game. Everytime I log in I think "This time might be different. It's a "Sandbox" after all. This new experience can or may be better.
But it isn't.
It never offers anything that I can't get out of another game that isn't nearly as cash grab.
One can say "don't blame trion for compulsive spending".
I can tell RIGHT there one is not playing the game. You have to keep up with the Jones. It's not a matter of want. It's not a matter of winning. It's about the end game designed to make you need to purchase things or go sub.
Which is fine but you can't say it's the players fault for "trion" or whomever is involved making the end game REQUIRE copious amounts of spending.
You can play for free sure. It won't fun though. It never is fun. F2p are the peasants in games and in Archeage you will be a total pleb.
I hear about folks excelling for free but I have not seen those absolutely free players myself. Not beyond starting areas.
You play on someone's else server thats why i always accepted paying monthly subs for an MMORPG you not playing a single player game.
Eevn if it says "free" to play , i expect people paying the monthly sub for a MMORPG should be normal and its also a matter of ethics (you wont go live in someone's house using his service and then you dont give something as exchange).
In Archeage you can't tell who is playing for free. Some payed sub for 1 - 2 months and then switched to pay patron with INGAME currency (means they have the same subscriber buff and status as a paying customer but didn't spend real world money to get it).
They can also buy anything from cash shop using these method so you can't tell if someone bought things with real money or INGAME currency.
About the gameplay its your opinion.
I find Archeage unique that you can find ANY AND ALL features for ALL PLAYSTYLES IN ONE place. BArely any modern MMO can offer that, Housing, Large Pvp, Small PvP, Naval battles, growing plants, go fishing, even express urself in artistry skills.
I find Archeage unique that you can find ANY AND ALL features for ALL PLAYSTYLES IN ONE place. BArely any modern MMO can offer that, Housing, Large Pvp, Small PvP, Naval battles, growing plants, go fishing, even express urself in artistry skills.
You know thats a very good point...and very spot on i think...I sometimes question the motives of people when the hostility meter is off the charts towards a certain game....anyhow im going to give it another whirl and just hope my fishing boat is still around and do some sport fishing.....cheers
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I can't sell you Archeage, but I'm sure somebody can sell you fully gemmed (exploited) epic armor and full gemmed legendary weapon, you'll come back and talk about how awesome the game is.
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No p2w cause of random chances to get better gear...
see what random means please : NO better or worses chance to upgrade you gear then a lvl 1 toon on his first day ! You cant buy any gear on cash shop...
Also it is Coonkoons last game..any other game he leave for archeage ..he stayed at archeage till his last day of online gaming..... should tell us something..
No p2w cause of random chances to get better gear...
see what random means please : NO better or worses chance to upgrade you gear then a lvl 1 toon on his first day ! You cant buy any gear on cash shop...
Also it is Coonkoons last game..any other game he leave for archeage ..he stayed at archeage till his last day of online gaming..... should tell us something..
Guess who's back again .....
Original Coon Quote in youtube comments section about his recent picked up Archeage stream activity
Funny about that guy, he talks about P2W he part of the problem, he not even playing on Trion Arche Age. That video so fake and people fall for it so he can get more views.:)
I'm not saying Trion Arche Age is not P2W or Rush to Win but people need to do research befor showing this video around.
Funny how most people think "selling" meant paypal'ing you an account.
With that said. I've become a guy that "passes" through MMO's. I want to fully understand the mechanics of what's fun and what's not, in an MMO. Here's what I got from Archeage. -Now I might not be selling it to you, because there's really some rather important negatives to push into this as well.
- Crafting. It might just be me, but it's delightful and fun to be able to farm materials for things, without having to rely on buying stuff from the auction house. I'll need land to farm these materials safely, but there's plenty of open space in deserted areas, where I can successfully plant and harvest my crap without it getting stolen.
- Traderuns. It's the first time I've stumbled across this way of doing things. It's refreshing, somewhat bothersome, but still adds a vital part of what makes this game fun. With the same farming/harvesting system that makes crafting possible, you can craft and run these crippling packs on foot, by donkey, cart, wagon, hauler, freighter or ship. You can pick safe routes or risk attacks by pvp(and ^%@#$@#$ seabugs) transporting your packs into more rewarding turn-in points. The variety in the tradepacks origin as well as their destination that makes this part of the game time-consuming, but fun.
- Exploration. Swim for days in the sea, finding lost treasures, gaining mounts, boats and of course, gold. - Artistry. I haven't done any of the musical stuff you can, in the game, but hung out with a bunch of people who did. You can basically script/compose your own music and sell the sheets to other players who will then be able to play your music on their selected instrument.
The game world itself is vast, in areas beautiful and in some, downright sinister and unwelcoming.
Now comes the killer that will make the population dwindle and any gamer feel like he's wasting time, not being entertained:
- The regrade system. You spend huge amounts of time, effort, crafting and farming to get to a point where you think to yourself: "time to upgrade my gear". There's 3 different ways to do this. There's the quality upgrade, where it would go from "heroic-orange" up to "unique-pinkish". There's the tier-upgrade where it will go from say tier1 to tier2, with the stats being slightly better and the name changes to the next tier. Then there's gems. Crafted or by pvping, you can spend materials or honor to get them. Socket those bad boys into the gear to gain certain stats.
And then the entire game, for everything it stands for, everything you've done, all that is fun and entertaining falls to the ground and this game becomes unplayable. "Major failure". When doing the quality upgrade, it can actually fail, destroying the item, its tiers, its gems, everything. You're left with a small, pointless amount of the materials it took to make it.
That is a thorn in the eye of any gamer, so disruptive, people quit left and right over it. Yes. There is a feature to help(NOT a solution). Sink a good $10.000 to $20.000 into keep regrading and keep losing your gear til it magically works on the whim of the random number generator. Even then, you can't be sure to get anything out of it. It is a gold and real-life moneysink.
No function in a game should have you sit through a complete loss of all your time and money. What are they thinking? There's literally hundreds of ways to make people pay for this game and enjoy it to the fullest while filling XL games and Trions pockets way beyond what they're earning on this retarded system.
It's like getting to the end of the month, with 180+ work hours stacked up, then your boss whips out a "wheel of fortune" with 99 'bust' spots and 1 'payday' spot. And you spin it...
There's been a small ruckus lately, in the game. A lot of people left it. Some went to play other MMO's, some got tired of bots, cheaters and hackers. All of these are not going to kill Archeage and eventually the developer and the distributor - they got that covered, all by themselves, all by a severely flawed business plan.
That last part is so detrimental to the game, I can't sell it to you. It's just not worth yours or my time.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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a. boxy graphics
b. bland environments
c. not sure if overcrowding exists still, but it didnt back when i played it.
Looking forward to: Crowfall / Lost Ark / Black Desert Mobile
So true.
Also reading the opinions that target Archeage mainly because of its monetary system someone would think EU / NA is full of socialist and communists in RL (but for some reason nowhere no such parties win any ellections) lol
(based on the view that in capitaistic world is absolutely legit to invest money instead of work to progress)
Just a sursprising observation ....
But unfortunatley the p2w aspect isn't the worst of Archeage's problems. It's a zerg fest filled with exploits in an extremely hackable engine that, when combined with the p2w aspect, has resulted in probably the most unfair playing field in any MMO ever.
"Given that there is NO ALTERNATIVE to Archeage at the moment, what you are left with are shallow themeparks. "
The alternative is to just not play an MMO for the time-being. I've been playing SMITE and Hearthstone and single player games for many months now and it's a decent substitute for my MMO hobby.
I'll be diving headfirst into Black Desert when it comes out, though, which is soon, thankfully.
I login time to time to check stuff out...cash out item codes etc.
I try to like the game. Everytime I log in I think "This time might be different. It's a "Sandbox" after all. This new experience can or may be better.
But it isn't.
It never offers anything that I can't get out of another game that isn't nearly as cash grab.
One can say "don't blame trion for compulsive spending".
I can tell RIGHT there one is not playing the game.
You have to keep up with the Jones. It's not a matter of want. It's not a matter of winning.
It's about the end game designed to make you need to purchase things or go sub.
Which is fine but you can't say it's the players fault for "trion" or whomever is involved making the end game REQUIRE copious amounts of spending.
You can play for free sure. It won't fun though. It never is fun. F2p are the peasants in games and in Archeage you will be a total pleb.
I hear about folks excelling for free but I have not seen those absolutely free players myself. Not beyond starting areas.
You play on someone's else server thats why i always accepted paying monthly subs for an MMORPG you not playing a single player game.
Eevn if it says "free" to play , i expect people paying the monthly sub for a MMORPG should be normal and its also a matter of ethics (you wont go live in someone's house using his service and then you dont give something as exchange).
In Archeage you can't tell who is playing for free. Some payed sub for 1 - 2 months and then switched to pay patron with INGAME currency (means they have the same subscriber buff and status as a paying customer but didn't spend real world money to get it).
They can also buy anything from cash shop using these method so you can't tell if someone bought things with real money or INGAME currency.
About the gameplay its your opinion.
I find Archeage unique that you can find ANY AND ALL features for ALL PLAYSTYLES IN ONE place.
BArely any modern MMO can offer that, Housing, Large Pvp, Small PvP, Naval battles, growing plants, go fishing, even express urself in artistry skills.
watch koonkoon's channel...it is sad and funny...
I want $1000.00 up front to even consider acting as a salesman.
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see what random means please : NO better or worses chance to upgrade you gear then a lvl 1 toon on his first day !
You cant buy any gear on cash shop...
Also it is Coonkoons last game..any other game he leave for archeage ..he stayed at archeage till his last day of online gaming..... should tell us something..
Original Coon Quote in youtube comments section
about his recent picked up Archeage stream activity
"..this is enjoying time to me after work."
Archeage s Coon's favorite game huh
played them all to 30 then finally left this crap game
/sarc off
I'm not saying Trion Arche Age is not P2W or Rush to Win but people need to do research befor showing this video around.
With that said. I've become a guy that "passes" through MMO's. I want to fully understand the mechanics of what's fun and what's not, in an MMO. Here's what I got from Archeage. -Now I might not be selling it to you, because there's really some rather important negatives to push into this as well.
- Crafting. It might just be me, but it's delightful and fun to be able to farm materials for things, without having to rely on buying stuff from the auction house. I'll need land to farm these materials safely, but there's plenty of open space in deserted areas, where I can successfully plant and harvest my crap without it getting stolen.
- Traderuns. It's the first time I've stumbled across this way of doing things. It's refreshing, somewhat bothersome, but still adds a vital part of what makes this game fun. With the same farming/harvesting system that makes crafting possible, you can craft and run these crippling packs on foot, by donkey, cart, wagon, hauler, freighter or ship. You can pick safe routes or risk attacks by pvp(and ^%@#$@#$ seabugs) transporting your packs into more rewarding turn-in points. The variety in the tradepacks origin as well as their destination that makes this part of the game time-consuming, but fun.
- Exploration. Swim for days in the sea, finding lost treasures, gaining mounts, boats and of course, gold.
- Artistry. I haven't done any of the musical stuff you can, in the game, but hung out with a bunch of people who did. You can basically script/compose your own music and sell the sheets to other players who will then be able to play your music on their selected instrument.
The game world itself is vast, in areas beautiful and in some, downright sinister and unwelcoming.
Now comes the killer that will make the population dwindle and any gamer feel like he's wasting time, not being entertained:
- The regrade system. You spend huge amounts of time, effort, crafting and farming to get to a point where you think to yourself: "time to upgrade my gear". There's 3 different ways to do this. There's the quality upgrade, where it would go from "heroic-orange" up to "unique-pinkish". There's the tier-upgrade where it will go from say tier1 to tier2, with the stats being slightly better and the name changes to the next tier. Then there's gems. Crafted or by pvping, you can spend materials or honor to get them. Socket those bad boys into the gear to gain certain stats.
And then the entire game, for everything it stands for, everything you've done, all that is fun and entertaining falls to the ground and this game becomes unplayable. "Major failure". When doing the quality upgrade, it can actually fail, destroying the item, its tiers, its gems, everything. You're left with a small, pointless amount of the materials it took to make it.
That is a thorn in the eye of any gamer, so disruptive, people quit left and right over it. Yes. There is a feature to help(NOT a solution). Sink a good $10.000 to $20.000 into keep regrading and keep losing your gear til it magically works on the whim of the random number generator. Even then, you can't be sure to get anything out of it. It is a gold and real-life moneysink.
No function in a game should have you sit through a complete loss of all your time and money. What are they thinking? There's literally hundreds of ways to make people pay for this game and enjoy it to the fullest while filling XL games and Trions pockets way beyond what they're earning on this retarded system.
It's like getting to the end of the month, with 180+ work hours stacked up, then your boss whips out a "wheel of fortune" with 99 'bust' spots and 1 'payday' spot. And you spin it...
There's been a small ruckus lately, in the game. A lot of people left it. Some went to play other MMO's, some got tired of bots, cheaters and hackers. All of these are not going to kill Archeage and eventually the developer and the distributor - they got that covered, all by themselves, all by a severely flawed business plan.
That last part is so detrimental to the game, I can't sell it to you. It's just not worth yours or my time.
There's another game, very similar to AA, with a bit of EVE familiarity to it, that has a ton of former EVE players playing it.