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Xenoblade developers cave to western feminists. Western version censored.

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  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,526
    Kiyoris said:

    This cracks me up so much.
    Feminists rage over pink mushroom girls being a bad female role model?

    In that case I demand that Toad should be removed :
    THE GUY IS SIMPLY NOT MANLY ENOUGH TO REPRESENT MEN!!!
    Harbinger of Fools
  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Member UncommonPosts: 5,483
    edited November 2015
    The West seems to be the only region where fan service affects people's mind and feminazis show up to cause trouble.

    Asia creates those fan services and they dont have any problem with it and their minds are clear as water.

    /facepalm

    We just cant handle it.

    Oh horsefeathers. Muslim theocracies would gouge out your eyes for publishing even the modified version. The Peoples Republic of China is extremely strict also. Under dressed young people is not an "Asian thing." The world isn't as free thinking as you  pretend. It's tasteless crap and defending marketing crap as an affront to freedom is crap as well. There is no slippery slope argument to be made here. If you want to argue about censorship find a valid topic like the recent attempts to edit American history and eliminate  all symbols of the Confederacy.
    Post edited by zymurgeist on

    "We have met the enemy and he is us." ~Pogo Possum. 

  • nbtscannbtscan Member UncommonPosts: 862
    edited November 2015
    Aori said:
    Bikini's = Strong sexual content? You're suggesting a bikini is akin to child nudity? "we can't let our children see children in bikini's!" bet that makes swim practice really freaking difficult.
    Never really understood this.  Bikinis are essentially underwear, just usually with thicker material to keep the mentionables unmentionable.

    Anyway, this change has no bearing on my decision to buy the game.  I was more peeved over the fact that they were releasing characters/quests as DLC a couple weeks after the game launched in Japan, but since they announced it would all be included in the Western release that's no longer an issue for me.
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  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130
    edited November 2015
    Dakeru said:
    Kiyoris said:

    This cracks me up so much.
    Feminists rage over pink mushroom girls being a bad female role model?

    In that case I demand that Toad should be removed :
    THE GUY IS SIMPLY NOT MANLY ENOUGH TO REPRESENT MEN!!!
    Ridiculous right.

    These feminists have been going after Nintendo games for over a year now. Every newly released Nintendo game, is a potential new target for them.

    Ever since Nintendo responded to them, they have been hacking away at Nintendo. If you give them an inch, they will take a mile.

    Companies that have not responded with appeasement and censorship, aren't a target for them, since they can't touch them since they ignore all these feminist groups.

    Nintendo thought you could reason with these people, they have censored games in response, they have started "women campaigns", "women history months", each time Nintendo does that, they hack away more at Nintendo. They will not stop until Nintendo grovels at their feet.

    Everyone in the West knows appeasing to these people this is a mistake.






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  • NephaeriusNephaerius Member UncommonPosts: 1,671
    SBFord said:
    BigRambo said:
     When people cry more about having naked pixels rather than better game play, is the main reason why games are dumbed down.  Man do I miss the SNES 90's era of gaming. 
    When they start showing male characters in thongs and bikinis, let's talk. Until then, this is the right decision.
    Why do people even make that argument? You're literally saying when they start dressing men like women then it will be ok to leave it uncensored? What kind of logic is that. How about the 50 million video game covers with topless strong men? Oh yeah those we'll leave out because that runs counter to your argument.

    Personally I could care less about the censorship though. Unless that character's clothing or lack thereof somehow changes the game/story it doesn't make a difference.

    Steam: Neph

  • SedrynTyrosSedrynTyros Member EpicPosts: 2,664
    Censorship is always incredibly lame and this is no exception.
  • AntiquatedAntiquated Member RarePosts: 1,415
    edited November 2015
    "…a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more. It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."


    People adopt the strangest causes in the name of panties. The same faux moral outrage that we see every time someone dares to cover (or expose!) a nipple.



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  • scorpex-xscorpex-x Member RarePosts: 1,030
    edited November 2015
    Wildstar did this, lots of players bailed as soon as it was reported.

    Won't play this game either.
    Post edited by scorpex-x on
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,180
    Censorship is always incredibly lame and this is no exception.
    Self censorship is simply smart business when moving products to differing markets with different cultural traits.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • SedrynTyrosSedrynTyros Member EpicPosts: 2,664
    Distopia said:
    Censorship is always incredibly lame and this is no exception.
    Self censorship is simply smart business when moving products to differing markets with different cultural traits.
    I agree that it is more profitable to take the target market's culture into consideration than it is to ignore it.  It always leaves a bad taste when I see it happen, though.  I think it's a much healthier precedent to let the designers put out the game they want and let the people who will look for reasons to get offended be extra offended until their silly little heads explode from the pointless rage.  The instant that the world stops changing to make these types of people more comfortable the better off the rest of us will be.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 24,958
    Kiyoris said:
    here is the proof that Nintendo said there was no change at Pax in August

    between August and now, something changed, and Nintendo caved

    So people saying "Developers wanted the change"...are flat out wrong, the developer panel said they DID NOT want to change anything.



    So you are saying it's absolutely hot possible that they looked at their position and realized that if they did make changes that they might be able to sell to a greater demographic?

    You are saying it absolutely not possible for them to change their mind? It's beyond the pale, never can be considered?



  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130
    edited November 2015
    Sovrath said:
    Kiyoris said:
    here is the proof that Nintendo said there was no change at Pax in August

    between August and now, something changed, and Nintendo caved

    So people saying "Developers wanted the change"...are flat out wrong, the developer panel said they DID NOT want to change anything.



    So you are saying it's absolutely hot possible ...<snip>

    You are saying it absolutely not possible...<snip>
    don't put words in my mouth
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 24,958
    edited November 2015
    Kiyoris said:
    Sovrath said:
    Kiyoris said:
    here is the proof that Nintendo said there was no change at Pax in August

    between August and now, something changed, and Nintendo caved

    So people saying "Developers wanted the change"...are flat out wrong, the developer panel said they DID NOT want to change anything.



    So you are saying it's absolutely hot possible ...<snip>

    You are saying it absolutely not possible...<snip>
    don't put words in my mouth
    Great so let us accept that the developers might have changed their mind and let's get off this idea that because a different outcome is happening the developers have caved.

    It might be just as simple as thing changed on their end and they decided to make the alterations.
    Post edited by Sovrath on



  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,180
    edited November 2015
    Distopia said:
    Censorship is always incredibly lame and this is no exception.
    Self censorship is simply smart business when moving products to differing markets with different cultural traits.
    I agree that it is more profitable to take the target market's culture into consideration than it is to ignore it.  It always leaves a bad taste when I see it happen, though.  I think it's a much healthier precedent to let the designers put out the game they want and let the people who will look for reasons to get offended be extra offended until their silly little heads explode from the pointless rage.  The instant that the world stops changing to make these types of people more comfortable the better off the rest of us will be.

    I don't disagree when it comes to most things, anime and the like gets a little tricky though in the realm of sexuality, even as a non-parent I can see that. We're just culturally different in the US on the subject, what would pass for teen viewing in Japan is just a lot different than it is in the US.

    That said I've always been of the idea, "don't like it? don't buy or watch it". SO I see where you are coming from.
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    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • Pratt2112Pratt2112 Member UncommonPosts: 1,636
    edited November 2015



    The common practice of including muscle definition in male characters is hardly similar to the way the female form is enhanced in most games.  Bras and armor fit to bursting on a female chest where every lurid detail and curve can be oggled would be mirrored in male characters having much more definitive detail visible in the crotch area and oversized to boot.  If men being shirtless was actually considered partial nudity, we wouldn't be allowed to take our shirts off in public.
    So, in other words, there's no problem at all with the characters specific to this thread, as they are not depicted as "bras fit to bursting on a female chest where every lurid detail and curve can be oggled". Rather, the character is rather petite, not at all "bursting" in any sense. Yet, it's the subject of debate as being "inappropriate".

    So, here we have the subject of this very thread proving your assessment incorrect. 

    Seems you need to re-think your position, and be a bit more inclusive of all the evidence, and not only what suits you. You're committing the same sin of confirmation bias as SBFord in their post - only acknowledging what fits your narrative, while ignoring what doesn't - even when it's right in your face, as the subject of this thread.

    Now let's see how you shift the goal post.


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