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Star Citizen Employees Speak Out on Project Woes!

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  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    Thane said:
    so, this article is about an ex employee, but he doesn't want us to know his name?
    yea, whatever.
    Well more than one, but yeah. These people are content to hide in the shadows and throw dirt at their either current or previous employer because they are too chickenshit to face the chance of facing repercussions for whistle blowing. Which sounds understandable at first until you realize these same self serving pricks don't care if their little bitch fest harms a few hundred employees of the same company they're mad at.
    Interesting someone calling people chickenshit for not exposing who they are so it ruins their livelihood for rest of their life hiding behind a nick on the forums so he can call people chickenshit.

    I really do find that amazing. :-D 
    I'm not perfect but I'm always myself!

    Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event


    4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.

    http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/

    Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!

  • MisterZebubMisterZebub Member LegendaryPosts: 3,584
    Brenics said:
    Thane said:
    so, this article is about an ex employee, but he doesn't want us to know his name?
    yea, whatever.
    Well more than one, but yeah. These people are content to hide in the shadows and throw dirt at their either current or previous employer because they are too chickenshit to face the chance of facing repercussions for whistle blowing. Which sounds understandable at first until you realize these same self serving pricks don't care if their little bitch fest harms a few hundred employees of the same company they're mad at.
    Interesting someone calling people chickenshit for not exposing who they are so it ruins their livelihood for rest of their life hiding behind a nick on the forums so he can call people chickenshit.

    I really do find that amazing. :-D 
    LoL lovely strawman argument you've got there since you've been here calling Chris Roberts a conman and a crook in the exact same manner. Stop trying to deflect the issue when you can't give a logical rebuttal. The only way I could be hypocritical in this issue is if I anonymously leaked the names of these people to the public.

    "You have kept me at your beck and call for fifteen years. I shall never again do what you demand of me. By every rule of single combat, from this moment your life belongs to me. Is that not correct? Then I shall simply declare you dead. In all of your dealings with me, you'll do me the courtesy to conduct yourself as a dead man. I have submitted to your notions of honor long enough. You will now submit to mine."

  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    Brenics said:
    Thane said:
    so, this article is about an ex employee, but he doesn't want us to know his name?
    yea, whatever.
    Well more than one, but yeah. These people are content to hide in the shadows and throw dirt at their either current or previous employer because they are too chickenshit to face the chance of facing repercussions for whistle blowing. Which sounds understandable at first until you realize these same self serving pricks don't care if their little bitch fest harms a few hundred employees of the same company they're mad at.
    Interesting someone calling people chickenshit for not exposing who they are so it ruins their livelihood for rest of their life hiding behind a nick on the forums so he can call people chickenshit.

    I really do find that amazing. :-D 
    LoL lovely strawman argument you've got there since you've been here calling Chris Roberts a conman and a crook in the exact same manner. Stop trying to deflect the issue when you can't give a logical rebuttal. The only way I could be hypocritical in this issue is if I anonymously leaked the names of these people to the public.
    Big difference, CR has made it this way. Let's agree on one thing, if Roberts would file a lawsuit again DS and the Escapist (or even just one of them) then we can safely agree he has nothing to hide. If he doesn't then something must be fishy about the whole thing. 

    Deal?
    I'm not perfect but I'm always myself!

    Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event


    4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.

    http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/

    Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!

  • MisterZebubMisterZebub Member LegendaryPosts: 3,584
    Brenics said:
    Brenics said:
    Thane said:
    so, this article is about an ex employee, but he doesn't want us to know his name?
    yea, whatever.
    Well more than one, but yeah. These people are content to hide in the shadows and throw dirt at their either current or previous employer because they are too chickenshit to face the chance of facing repercussions for whistle blowing. Which sounds understandable at first until you realize these same self serving pricks don't care if their little bitch fest harms a few hundred employees of the same company they're mad at.
    Interesting someone calling people chickenshit for not exposing who they are so it ruins their livelihood for rest of their life hiding behind a nick on the forums so he can call people chickenshit.

    I really do find that amazing. :-D 
    LoL lovely strawman argument you've got there since you've been here calling Chris Roberts a conman and a crook in the exact same manner. Stop trying to deflect the issue when you can't give a logical rebuttal. The only way I could be hypocritical in this issue is if I anonymously leaked the names of these people to the public.
    Big difference, CR has made it this way. Let's agree on one thing, if Roberts would file a lawsuit again DS and the Escapist (or even just one of them) then we can safely agree he has nothing to hide. If he doesn't then something must be fishy about the whole thing. 

    Deal?
    On the flip side if he does file a lawsuit against them you're going to be right here crying bullying tactics, and declaring this is the golden proof he has something to hide. And you know it. Again deflecting the issue because you have no actual evidence to back up your insinuations.


    "You have kept me at your beck and call for fifteen years. I shall never again do what you demand of me. By every rule of single combat, from this moment your life belongs to me. Is that not correct? Then I shall simply declare you dead. In all of your dealings with me, you'll do me the courtesy to conduct yourself as a dead man. I have submitted to your notions of honor long enough. You will now submit to mine."

  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    edited October 2015
    Brenics said:
    Brenics said:
    Thane said:
    so, this article is about an ex employee, but he doesn't want us to know his name?
    yea, whatever.
    Well more than one, but yeah. These people are content to hide in the shadows and throw dirt at their either current or previous employer because they are too chickenshit to face the chance of facing repercussions for whistle blowing. Which sounds understandable at first until you realize these same self serving pricks don't care if their little bitch fest harms a few hundred employees of the same company they're mad at.
    Interesting someone calling people chickenshit for not exposing who they are so it ruins their livelihood for rest of their life hiding behind a nick on the forums so he can call people chickenshit.

    I really do find that amazing. :-D 
    LoL lovely strawman argument you've got there since you've been here calling Chris Roberts a conman and a crook in the exact same manner. Stop trying to deflect the issue when you can't give a logical rebuttal. The only way I could be hypocritical in this issue is if I anonymously leaked the names of these people to the public.
    Big difference, CR has made it this way. Let's agree on one thing, if Roberts would file a lawsuit again DS and the Escapist (or even just one of them) then we can safely agree he has nothing to hide. If he doesn't then something must be fishy about the whole thing. 

    Deal?
    On the flip side if he does file a lawsuit against them you're going to be right here crying bullying tactics, and declaring this is the golden proof he has something to hide. And you know it. Again deflecting the issue because you have no actual evidence to back up your insinuations.


    LOL typical, actually that is exactly what you fanboy's have been doing. I know for a fact if he did file it would shock me and make me rethink the whole thing. Just by your post it makes me understand the thinking of people that spend cash like they are on some 50 dollar game. :=D

    That isn't even made yet!
    I'm not perfect but I'm always myself!

    Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event


    4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.

    http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/

    Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!

  • MisterZebubMisterZebub Member LegendaryPosts: 3,584
    edited October 2015
    Brenics said:
    Brenics said:
    Brenics said:
    Thane said:
    so, this article is about an ex employee, but he doesn't want us to know his name?
    yea, whatever.
    Well more than one, but yeah. These people are content to hide in the shadows and throw dirt at their either current or previous employer because they are too chickenshit to face the chance of facing repercussions for whistle blowing. Which sounds understandable at first until you realize these same self serving pricks don't care if their little bitch fest harms a few hundred employees of the same company they're mad at.
    Interesting someone calling people chickenshit for not exposing who they are so it ruins their livelihood for rest of their life hiding behind a nick on the forums so he can call people chickenshit.

    I really do find that amazing. :-D 
    LoL lovely strawman argument you've got there since you've been here calling Chris Roberts a conman and a crook in the exact same manner. Stop trying to deflect the issue when you can't give a logical rebuttal. The only way I could be hypocritical in this issue is if I anonymously leaked the names of these people to the public.
    Big difference, CR has made it this way. Let's agree on one thing, if Roberts would file a lawsuit again DS and the Escapist (or even just one of them) then we can safely agree he has nothing to hide. If he doesn't then something must be fishy about the whole thing. 

    Deal?
    On the flip side if he does file a lawsuit against them you're going to be right here crying bullying tactics, and declaring this is the golden proof he has something to hide. And you know it. Again deflecting the issue because you have no actual evidence to back up your insinuations.


    LOL typical, actually that is exactly what you fanboy's have been doing. I know for a fact if he did file it would shock me and make me rethink the whole thing. Just by your post it makes me understand the thinking of people that spend cash like they are on some 50 dollar game. :=D

    That isn't even made yet!
    Ah yep ad hominem attack right on schedule. I don't slavishly agree with you so I must be a fanboi. And since fanbois are never rational you can automatically discount anything I say. Is that really the best you can do to try to support your side of the argument? Because that's pretty pathetic if it is.

    "You have kept me at your beck and call for fifteen years. I shall never again do what you demand of me. By every rule of single combat, from this moment your life belongs to me. Is that not correct? Then I shall simply declare you dead. In all of your dealings with me, you'll do me the courtesy to conduct yourself as a dead man. I have submitted to your notions of honor long enough. You will now submit to mine."

  • RealizerRealizer Member RarePosts: 724
    To get this Derek thing out of the way I suggest you watch this video... in its full length and then tell me what you saw in an objective way. I keep my opinion for myself at this point. 



    Back to to the important things. Once again... criticism is good and needed to keep things in line IF done in an appropriate, logical and profound way. 

    You anti people are somehow emotionally attached to something you do not like. What would be better for you? Ignore what you do not like and concentrate on the things in your life that you like and make you happy.

    It is important to say like and happy in one sentence. Because if you like to see evil around every corner than this will not make you happy. And I for myself are not in this world to not be happy. That's the purpose of life next to passing my genes onto the next generation.

    And saying "I want my answers now" is immature. I want the game now... can I have it? No it's not ready yet. Are we there yet? I want an ice! Why aren't we there yet Dad? 

    If if you are mature then you might life in constant fear of loosing something even if it is not an important part of your life. 

    Psychology is a bitch ;) 
    Haha this video was removed by user during the middle of me watching it. He must have known I was there. 
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 9,923
    Realizer said:
    Haha this video was removed by user during the middle of me watching it. He must have known I was there. 
    Yep. Gone. Too embarrasing maybe ?!


    Have fun
  • RealizerRealizer Member RarePosts: 724
    Erillion said:
    Realizer said:
    Haha this video was removed by user during the middle of me watching it. He must have known I was there. 
    Yep. Gone. Too embarrasing maybe ?!


    Have fun
     Yeah he was saying how, "we better hope he doesn't retire because then he will have more time to troll." (his words) Then he got mad because people started to troll him, telling him his audio was muted. Rofl
  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    Sometimes I am not sure if to laugh, shake my head or feel his and the other negative people's pain.

    Brenic you will never become a happy person if you keep on behaving like this. Arguing with you is like talking to an always bragging child that will not see that it made a mistake or has a false view of thing (in life). But that's the parents and the environmental influence fault as children mostly are innocent because they cannot know better due to missing life experience.

    Sometimes I feel you and the others... but I cannot keep it up for long as I feel what happens in my gut. How does your stomach feel? Having a sour stomach sometimes? You must be a very healthy person. *irony* 

    No offense... even if my words might imply this. Just wanna give some advice... does not work that good over the Internet.
    I expected that, see you and others that say they laugh at my posts and others that post that see CR as a crook who doesn't even backup his words with a lawsuit he says he will file. 

    Anything to make us shut up and stop making CR the center of a possible crime. So nothing you guys say will do that. You attack DS, you attack The Escapist, you attack the witnesses, that is just what you guys do. So you think that bothers me? LOL not at all because CR seems to be a crook along with his wife and until he at least proves it one way or another this will keep going on and on and on and on!

    Sure innocent until proven guilty, but even a crazy person will do everything in his power to show he is on the up and up and I just do not see CR doing that. His reputation is on the line and that letter he wrote didn't help him so is he going to allow his reputation to continue to be hurt or is he going to show something anything other than words and attacks to counter it?
    I'm not perfect but I'm always myself!

    Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event


    4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.

    http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/

    Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!

  • SmartySmartSmartySmart Member UncommonPosts: 312
    The video was already downloaded by a lot of people. It is not lost guys. There is a Dropbox link somewhere in Reddit.

    If you post something of the Internet be sure it's good because it will be there as long as the Internet is alive or until the world explodes... I guess no one will care for anything by then :D 
  • SmartySmartSmartySmart Member UncommonPosts: 312
    Funny side note... he tried to explain us what trolling is and what it was back in the days (Usenet) and that it wasn't a bad thing.

    So his definition of trolling is ok even if it is what it is... trolling. Then he goes on telling people not to troll him. 

    Do unto others as you would have others do unto you... it's simple as that.
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 6,210
    http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/440506/star-citizen-death-of-a-salesman-mmorpg/p6

    dsmart said:
    Red_Thomas said:
    dsmart said:
    No, I can't agree with a lot of that.  For one, you can't just strip people of shares in the company they created.  It's not IPO, so there's no legal method that I know of for doing something like that.  I also would never be okay with taking portions of a company away from someone who built it.  Agree with him or not, Chris made SC what it is.  If it's successful, with or without him, he needs to benefit as the progenitor of the project.

    Actually you're wrong. It can be done. It's legal. And I've done it.

    What you do is  you offer them a deal and either buy their shares for a small amount based on what the company is valued at the time, or the give it up in exchange for non-prosecution of any uncovered wrong-doing.

    And this has nothing to do with people who created a company keeping their shares. It's about the survival of the company and a plan toward a clean slate.

    It happens ALL the time. Founders leave without any part of the company. And in most cases, if they refuse to take such deals, that's when very bad things happen.


    He also basically admits to using blackmail and extortion. I wonder if this is what was going through his mind when he started all his shit with SC.

    Don't count your chickens before they are hatched Derek.

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • SedrynTyrosSedrynTyros Member EpicPosts: 2,924
    Erillion said:
    Realizer said:
    Haha this video was removed by user during the middle of me watching it. He must have known I was there. 
    Yep. Gone. Too embarrasing maybe ?!


    Have fun
    I'm guessing he took it down because he decided somewhere in there he'd said some things that he didn't want to be held accountable for later.   It's typical Derek Smart behavior; remove the evidence then claim it never happened later when somebody reminds you of your douchebaggery.  He's done it countless times before.
  • DocBrodyDocBrody Member UncommonPosts: 1,926
    Erillion said:
    Realizer said:
    Haha this video was removed by user during the middle of me watching it. He must have known I was there. 
    Yep. Gone. Too embarrasing maybe ?!


    Have fun
    well he can as well put it up again, it has been downloaded by dozens of users and some said they´re going to make a best-of edit out of it.
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