Do you consider yourself a hardcore gamer ?

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sunandshadow

I've never thought hardcore was a coherent concept.   It doesn't seem to be about hours spent playing per day, nor whether you prefer challenging content to easy content, nor whether you research and calculate stats so you can min-max...

hallucigenocide

sunandshadow said:

I've never thought hardcore was a coherent concept.   It doesn't seem to be about hours spent playing per day, nor whether you prefer challenging content to easy content, nor whether you research and calculate stats so you can min-max...

yeah people seem to throw that word around willy nilly but to me it's always been someone's who's very dedicated.. so they spend alot of time playing and trying to master their class in whatever game mode they prefer.

deniter

I usually play several hours a day, like grinding and farming stuff, but hate the idea to having to show up every saturday and monday at 6 for raiding. I like if there's always something to look forward to, and having all BiS items will make me quit very soon.

Am i hardcore? I think not, but others could disagree.

immodium

sunandshadow said:

I've never thought hardcore was a coherent concept.   It doesn't seem to be about hours spent playing per day, nor whether you prefer challenging content to easy content, nor whether you research and calculate stats so you can min-max...

Indeed.

Like when it's used in music and pornography.

Davirok

I used to be a hardcore gamer when I had time to be such thing. Not anymore tho.

Salvadorbard

It really depends on one's definition of hardcore. I'd consider myself a hardcore gamer but this is based mainly on regular hours played in comparison to time spent doing other things. The other consideration for hardcore I guess is altering your schedule / planning for events or chunks of time spent playing the game as a fairly high priority. I definitely fit that one too (It's a common occurence for my group in Avalon to split up a 30 hour period into shifts for us to cover our warfare campaigns and whatnot efficiently and what's more it feels perfectly natural and almost expected to do so. "We're doing SOI" (claiming territory from another group of players, requires 30 hours unbroken continuity of capturing with troops) someone would say and it's just like OK let's split shifts. I guess the willingness and expectation and ease with which that's done says a lot.

Antiquated

I don't think of 'hardcore' as a title to aspire to.

More like a badge of shame.

Shaigh

As long as its a hobby and not a lifestyle its not hardcore. Its fun to do hardcore style gaming but sometimes you end up going bit overboard with it.

fivoroth

sunandshadow said:

I've never thought hardcore was a coherent concept.   It doesn't seem to be about hours spent playing per day, nor whether you prefer challenging content to easy content, nor whether you research and calculate stats so you can min-max...

Hardcore is about how much time you spent playing a game. If you play a game for like 30+ hours a week, then you are pretty much hardcore. 

fivoroth

hallucigenocide said:

sunandshadow said:

I've never thought hardcore was a coherent concept.   It doesn't seem to be about hours spent playing per day, nor whether you prefer challenging content to easy content, nor whether you research and calculate stats so you can min-max...

yeah people seem to throw that word around willy nilly but to me it's always been someone's who's very dedicated.. so they spend alot of time playing and trying to master their class in whatever game mode they prefer.

Dont' know about dedicated but it's definitely about spending a lot of time playing video games.

Albatroes

Not anymore since I haven't really found a MMO worth investing a heavy amount of time into.

Kyleran

No, I'm pretty much a "filthy casual" though in my wife's eyes I'm "addicted", all a matter of perception I suppose.

sunandshadow

fivoroth said:

sunandshadow said:

I've never thought hardcore was a coherent concept.   It doesn't seem to be about hours spent playing per day, nor whether you prefer challenging content to easy content, nor whether you research and calculate stats so you can min-max...

Hardcore is about how much time you spent playing a game. If you play a game for like 30+ hours a week, then you are pretty much hardcore. 

But does the word hardcore really apply if you are talking about someone spending 30 hours a week playing Farmville or a similar casual game, and have never in your life gone on a raid?  The term time whale seems to be a clearer term for someone who puts in a lot of hours a week.

kitarad

I thought whale is someone who spends money on the cash shop for advantages.

Dzone

Back in ffxi, I used to be hardcore. I would get home from work log in and play for 5 hours everyday before I went to bed. I worked 3rd shift, and if I happen to be off the next night I would log in after work stay up all day till around 10 pm the next night, sleep get up log back in and play till about 3/4 hours b4 work to take a nap.


Nowadays i play ff xiv arr and still work same hours, but I only play around 3 hours each afternoon, plus my nights off I take really long breaks and end up playing maybe 5/6 hours.

So i guss i went from hardcore to casuall now, i just can't seem to be as devoted to ffxiv like i was with ffxi. I still enjoy ffxiv i just get burned out after 3/4 hours of play.

Beatnik59

sunandshadow said:

fivoroth said:

sunandshadow said:

I've never thought hardcore was a coherent concept.   It doesn't seem to be about hours spent playing per day, nor whether you prefer challenging content to easy content, nor whether you research and calculate stats so you can min-max...

Hardcore is about how much time you spent playing a game. If you play a game for like 30+ hours a week, then you are pretty much hardcore. 

But does the word hardcore really apply if you are talking about someone spending 30 hours a week playing Farmville or a similar casual game, and have never in your life gone on a raid?  The term time whale seems to be a clearer term for someone who puts in a lot of hours a week.

This is a good discussion, so allow me to get in my two GP...

It seems to me that "hardcore" and "casual" game use is best understood in terms of the other activity that tends to use the terms, drug or alcohol use.

There are people I know who drink a lot, but aren't alcoholics.  And the test of it is when the person who drinks a lot has better things to do, they don't drink, while the alcoholic can't help but keep drinking.

It is the same thing with MMOs and other games.  You might have a guy who is on break from school clock in a ton of hours on Destiny or EVE, yet still be "casual", since he is able to stop once school starts back up.  Compare this with the guy who can't stop playing, who restructures his life around the needs of the game, who starts to obsess over forums and reading guides when he isn't at home, and you get a better sense of what a "hardcore" player really looks like.

Shaigh

I disagree with the time aspect, its so common with people spending 20-40 hours playing games and there's nothing hardcore about it. Those kinds of measurement just shows how much available time you have. I find it wrong to mix hardcore with addiction, most hardcore gamers can mix work and gaming. Problem is that media loves to focus on people that can't mix the two.

However, when it comes to attitude you notice a really big difference, and it was very obvious in both PvP and raiding environments. There were always 5-10 players that showed up to every raid, optimized geared and fully prepared and were pretty much invaluable for the group. Then you have the people that are happy about showing up. People love to speak about raiders being the 1%, but if naxx is a measurement then I can tell you that a lot of those people were carried, meaning most raiders aren't hardcore gamers.

If you look at modern mmorpg's its not much in them that is about hardcore gaming, instead its about rewarding casual gameplay, show up, get your gear, and make sure enough people can pass the hurdles. Whenever a game breaks away from that formula you will hear about it on the forums.

thesightless

i realized i had a problem when i passed on sex for DOTA2 and saw the sunrise while playing POE>

Daikuru

Mr. Poll strikes again.

Quazal.A

I had to vote no, but how do you define hardcore, i play EvE ofr anything from 4-16hours a day, but to me hardcore is about min-maxing and not gametime, but to others hardcore is how long , how far you get

Moirae

No. Even in games like Skyrim, Dragon Age, and the Witcher, and their series, I set the difficulty to easy. I could care less about things like combat, I want to enjoy the story. And then I will mod the heck out of it later to get a new experience. 

GameboyMarc

Nope.

Braindome

This is what I consider hardcore, in which case no, very few are:

LacedOpium

Being hardcore is not about time spent in a game, its about how you approach the game.  If you approach the game too seriously, as if it were a job, and sacrifice having fun over simply completing game objectives at all cost, then you are hardcore.

freakky

Nope, to lazy to be one. I sure do put in the hours and have some epic skill moments if that counts.