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John Smedley Leaves Daybreak, Starts New Company -

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  • sakersaker Member RarePosts: 1,458
    they always start their own companies, nothing new...
  • MoiraeMoirae Member RarePosts: 3,318
    A non-cartoony EQ3 would be kewl.
    They are ALL cartoony. Some are just less cartoony than others. Studies have been done on peoples reaction to "too real". If something is "too real", people react negatively in games to things that are too fantastical in nature. Google it. 
  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    It will be interesting to see what he does.

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  • MarknMarkn Member UncommonPosts: 308
    Grunty said:
    I left EverQuest (1 and 2) many years ago.  I hope that something new, exciting, and good will happen with Norrath now that Smedley is finally gone.

    So did Smedley ever actually do any work or was he always just a figurehead?
    From what I've read he was a hands on leader. He involved himself in all aspects of the company and knew what was going on in all departments. 
    And from what I've heard, that was a major part of the problem at SOE. However that is all shithouse rumor so take it with a grain of salt.
    That was a huge problem there. He was too hands on restricting the creativity of his developers with his own idea or what was good or not.
  • Ammon777_newAmmon777_new Member UncommonPosts: 306
    Moirae said:
    A non-cartoony EQ3 would be kewl.
    They are ALL cartoony. Some are just less cartoony than others. Studies have been done on peoples reaction to "too real". If something is "too real", people react negatively in games to things that are too fantastical in nature. Google it. 
    Well I mean less cartoony than EQ Next. Something along the lines of EQ2 is my preference.
  • BraindomeBraindome Member UncommonPosts: 959
    Let me get this straight, all this of a new company is based off the fact that he listed himself as CEO of another company on his facebook profile. Wow, just wow. Lets not waiting for any type of official news lets just base everything we know in life off facebook, in which case anyone that bases my life off of my facebook means I am screwed and don't have a chance.

    Just gets crazier every day.
  • Ammon777_newAmmon777_new Member UncommonPosts: 306
    He does have a lot of industry connections, bro.
  • goboygogoboygo Member RarePosts: 2,141
    bcbully said:
    Gratz Smed. I can't wait to see what you have coming.
     Thats easy, F2P games.  He says that's all he believes in anymore.
  • aleosaleos Member UncommonPosts: 1,943
    John Smedley is one of the best con artists in MMO gaming. That's really all he is.
  • RusqueRusque Member RarePosts: 2,785
    Grunty said:
    I left EverQuest (1 and 2) many years ago.  I hope that something new, exciting, and good will happen with Norrath now that Smedley is finally gone.

    So did Smedley ever actually do any work or was he always just a figurehead?
    From what I've read he was a hands on leader. He involved himself in all aspects of the company and knew what was going on in all departments. 
    So ... he went around asking for TPS reports and asking developers to come in on the weekend?
  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon Member EpicPosts: 3,480
    DMKano said:
    goboygo said:
    bcbully said:
    Gratz Smed. I can't wait to see what you have coming.
     Thats easy, F2P games.  He says that's all he believes in anymore.
    Which is what 99.9% of the entire online gaming industry believes.
    Yeah lol, delusional at best lol.




  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    I left EverQuest (1 and 2) many years ago.  I hope that something new, exciting, and good will happen with Norrath now that Smedley is finally gone.

    So did Smedley ever actually do any work or was he always just a figurehead?
    What he does so well is screw people out of money. I predict a year from now this new company will go under. It is what he does, loses other people's money!
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    edited August 2015
    Grunty said:
    I left EverQuest (1 and 2) many years ago.  I hope that something new, exciting, and good will happen with Norrath now that Smedley is finally gone.

    So did Smedley ever actually do any work or was he always just a figurehead?
    From what I've read he was a hands on leader. He involved himself in all aspects of the company and knew what was going on in all departments. 
    I do not claim to have the best memory out there but could swear that several years ago i heard Smedley had a sort of conference room at home where he communicated with the team,point being he rarely spent time at the studio.However i could be confusing him with another notable figure but since i don't know many notable figures i am sure it was him.

    On him leaving,well my stereotype of him an others in leader positions is that they are are sort of power trippers,they do not like to take orders only give them,so it would make sense he felt no longer in charge so wants a new business to lead.

    I did put some thought into how much money he likely has and why he would not just retire.I figure of late he sees a brand new market to EXPLOIT,and  he would be correct.This current market to me shows a lot of careless and freewill spending,gamer's are literally buying all kinds of crap that would have never made it 10 years ago.I am quite certain his eyes opened wide when he saw how easy it was to make money releasing a totally unfinished not even worthy of Alpha game in H1z1.
    Point being he sees that now is not the time to get out,easy money to be made,he likely even goes for the kickstarter gimmick everyone else is going for.


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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,836
    Wonder if a reunion with Brad is coming soon....

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  • GestankfaustGestankfaust Member UncommonPosts: 1,989
    edited August 2015
    Wizardry said:
    Grunty said:
    I left EverQuest (1 and 2) many years ago.  I hope that something new, exciting, and good will happen with Norrath now that Smedley is finally gone.

    So did Smedley ever actually do any work or was he always just a figurehead?
    From what I've read he was a hands on leader. He involved himself in all aspects of the company and knew what was going on in all departments. 
    I do not claim to have the best memory out there but could swear that several years ago i heard Smedley had a sort of conference room at home where he communicated with the team,point being he rarely spent time at the studio.However i could be confusing him with another notable figure but since i don't know many notable figures i am sure it was him.

    On him leaving,well my stereotype of him an others in leader positions is that they are are sort of power trippers,they do not like to take orders only give them,so it would make sense he felt no longer in charge so wants a new business to lead.

    I did put some thought into how much money he likely has and why he would not just retire.I figure of late he sees a brand new market to EXPLOIT,and  he would be correct.This current market to me shows a lot of careless and freewill spending,gamer's are literally buying all kinds of crap that would have never made it 10 years ago.I am quite certain his eyes opened wide when he saw how easy it was to make money releasing a totally unfinished not even worthy of Alpha game in H1z1.
    Point being he sees that now is not the time to get out,easy money to be made,he likely even goes for the kickstarter gimmick everyone else is going for.


    Again....what? Do you even ever read the facts or just spout your opinion?

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  • Entris38Entris38 Member UncommonPosts: 401
    Wonder if a reunion with Brad is coming soon....

    This was my first thought also for some reason...
  • Charlie.CheswickCharlie.Cheswick Member UncommonPosts: 469
    He & Georgeson will be making an adult VR MMO called Leather Quest.
    -Chuckles
  • CladariCladari Member UncommonPosts: 9
    Pantheon, Rise of the Fallen is EQ3, if it ever ships. People seem to think it will but I'm not so sure. I kicked in some money to the kickstarter because it's worth the gamble to me.
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,984
    Things that make you go hmmmmm. I really dont know what to say about this lol Wonder if his friend Russ will stay CEO of DGC or go join him?
  • noncleynoncley Member UncommonPosts: 718
    Grunty said:
    I left EverQuest (1 and 2) many years ago.  I hope that something new, exciting, and good will happen with Norrath now that Smedley is finally gone.

    So did Smedley ever actually do any work or was he always just a figurehead?
    From what I've read he was a hands on leader. He involved himself in all aspects of the company and knew what was going on in all departments. 
    Smedley was one of the most influential but also disastrous players in MMORPG history.

    He managed to wheedle the Star Wars franchise from Lucas Arts and then created Star Wars Galaxies - an gigantic, open world MMO. However, he allowed his marketing team to set the objectives for the production team, and the game was launched half-finished. He then fired the team that created the world because he considered them too expensive to sustain after launch, he refused to invest in bug fixing and he kept on imposing 'quick fix' after 'quick fix' in an effort to stop the game haemorrhaging players. Ultimately, he gave the thumbs up to the New Game Enhancements that attempted to change the game from an open world RRP into a linear first person shooter, and effectively killed this massive franchise opportunity stone dead. 

    Think no one could make such a mistake twice? Think again. Smedley launched the Matrix Online - another MMO based on one of the world's most successful IPs, an IP that was all about virtual life online - and through mismanagement and a refusal to invest, ran the game into the ground within two years.

    He bought Vanguard, thinking it would be a fantasy MMO to rival World of Warcraft. However, because he personally doesn't know much about games and doesn't play them himself, he again didn't realise that this was another game that was unifnished. He launched it and then, quite deliberately, left it under-resourced to die a slow death. 

    So many bad decisions that killed off potentiall good games; from the POTBS, another over-marketed and under-supported game that took off only when Sony Online dropped it to the horrendous cluster fuck that is Landmark that received a gigantic surge of support until people saw the shallow, cartoonish vision Smedley was trying to ram down their throats. So many other examples could be quoted.

    A bad influence on the industry, a horrible decision-maker, a killer of games.
  • RemyVorenderRemyVorender Member RarePosts: 4,014
    Good luck, sir! Please, whatever it is you do, make it immersive. Thank you!

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  • centkincentkin Member RarePosts: 1,527
    DMKano said:
    When CEO step down - they either become CEOs of a different company, they start their own or they retire.

    Theres no other options.
    There is always politics.
  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    noncley said:
    Grunty said:
    I left EverQuest (1 and 2) many years ago.  I hope that something new, exciting, and good will happen with Norrath now that Smedley is finally gone.

    So did Smedley ever actually do any work or was he always just a figurehead?
    From what I've read he was a hands on leader. He involved himself in all aspects of the company and knew what was going on in all departments. 
    Smedley was one of the most influential but also disastrous players in MMORPG history.

    He managed to wheedle the Star Wars franchise from Lucas Arts and then created Star Wars Galaxies - an gigantic, open world MMO. However, he allowed his marketing team to set the objectives for the production team, and the game was launched half-finished. He then fired the team that created the world because he considered them too expensive to sustain after launch, he refused to invest in bug fixing and he kept on imposing 'quick fix' after 'quick fix' in an effort to stop the game haemorrhaging players. Ultimately, he gave the thumbs up to the New Game Enhancements that attempted to change the game from an open world RRP into a linear first person shooter, and effectively killed this massive franchise opportunity stone dead. 

    Think no one could make such a mistake twice? Think again. Smedley launched the Matrix Online - another MMO based on one of the world's most successful IPs, an IP that was all about virtual life online - and through mismanagement and a refusal to invest, ran the game into the ground within two years.

    He bought Vanguard, thinking it would be a fantasy MMO to rival World of Warcraft. However, because he personally doesn't know much about games and doesn't play them himself, he again didn't realise that this was another game that was unifnished. He launched it and then, quite deliberately, left it under-resourced to die a slow death. 

    So many bad decisions that killed off potentiall good games; from the POTBS, another over-marketed and under-supported game that took off only when Sony Online dropped it to the horrendous cluster fuck that is Landmark that received a gigantic surge of support until people saw the shallow, cartoonish vision Smedley was trying to ram down their throats. So many other examples could be quoted.

    A bad influence on the industry, a horrible decision-maker, a killer of games.
    He is what we call the destroyer of games. You can trust him with your money but not mine!
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  • GrimulaGrimula Member UncommonPosts: 644

    Wasn't Funcom looking for somewon to buy them ?

    could Smedley go over to funcom ?? hahah


    You Never know these days  lol

  • SatyrosSatyros Member UncommonPosts: 156
    Seems like the captain will not go down with his ship this time.. I wonder who's left in that studio and what their morale is. 
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