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Do violent video games make YOU violent?

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  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    You know what makes me aggressive? The fact that we're still spending millions of dollars a year on studies like this, considering they've been studying it since the 80s (or earlier if you want to talk about aggression in general). Seriously, when is enough enough? Until such a time as we can hook someone up to a machine and say, "Yes they're aggression level is 82.7" then what's the point? I could do a study today that samples 100 people and shows that aggressive video games make people happier than non-aggressive games. All depends on who you're wanting to impress with the results and where your funding is coming from. 

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  • neumneum Member UncommonPosts: 143
    Yes,  I am planning on doing a mass dragon killing just waiting for my new two handed sword to arrive from china.

  • VelocinoxVelocinox Member UncommonPosts: 1,010
    Vrika said:
    There was an interesting research last year that discovered a link between failing in video game and aggression: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26921743

    According to that research video games make you feel aggressive when you fail and get frustrated, and non-violent video games have the same effect as violent video games.
    This story also included the following...

    "One recent study suggested that playing violent video games for long periods of time can hold back the "moral maturity" of teenagers.

    Problems arose with teenagers who spent more than three hours every day in front of a screen, continuously playing these violent games without any other real-life interaction."


    'Sandbox MMO' is a PTSD trigger word for anyone who has the experience to know that anonymous players invariably use a 'sandbox' in the same manner a housecat does.


    When your head is stuck in the sand, your ass becomes the only recognizable part of you.


    No game is more fun than the one you can't play, and no game is more boring than one which you've become familiar.


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    Start with a billion dollars and make an MMO.

  • sanshi44sanshi44 Member UncommonPosts: 1,187
    edited August 2015
    Nope but lag sometime makes me a little angry :P so if goverment want to get rid of angry gamers they need to fix there god darn internet lines. (Aussie internet is rubbish)
  • OziiusOziius Member UncommonPosts: 1,405
    Horusra said:
    Stizzled said:
    Horusra said:
    Exposure to violence does not make you more violent it only desensitizes you to seeing violence.
    Exposure to violence in a video game doesn't desensitize us as much as studies like these would like us to believe. We've all seen someone's head explode in a video game, yet I imagine most of us haven't seen it in real life. I can promise that if we did we wouldn't just shrug it off because we witnessed it in a game.

    You are taking an extreme example.  Study have shown that two people fighting that would have shocked people in the past is more ignored now.  The thought of using a gun more accepted.  The news of violent deaths does not disturb people as much.
    I wouldn't even blame video games for that. We now have access to news and media 24/7. We see and hear about this shit constantly. We witnessed War in Iraq with anchors imbedded with the units. It's media and social media in general. As I told a friend the other day who had commented on how bad the world was getting... It's not any worse, you're just now hearing about every single incident in detail. Our kids are desensitized by default now.
  • DauzqulDauzqul Member RarePosts: 1,980
    Not at all. I've been blowing holes through peoples heads for over 15 years now via FPS. I've been slaying demons and players for over 12 years now via MMORPGs. I'm not talking casual player, either. Hardcore hours.

    I wouldn't hurt a fly...

    There are way more issues with "those types of people", e.g., depression, stress, etc.
  • jonp200jonp200 Member UncommonPosts: 455
    After a steady diet of Road Runner cartoons as a child, I grew up wanting to stab everyone in the face.  OK not really.... As much as the various pundits out there want this to be true, the overwhelming data out there points to this just being false with one small exception.  If you take someone already mentally ill and immerse him or her in an environment of violence you can  make things worse; "poking the bear" so to speak.

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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Velocinox said:
    This story also included the following...

    "One recent study suggested that playing violent video games for long periods of time can hold back the "moral maturity" of teenagers.

    Problems arose with teenagers who spent more than three hours every day in front of a screen, continuously playing these violent games without any other real-life interaction."

    There are older studies showing about the same thing about kids who spends hours in front of the TV every day.
    Honestly do kids need to physically interact with other people on a daily basis, just sitting at home isn't good no matter if you play GTA or study the bible.

    Funny enough are usually the same people worried when the teenagers play pen and paper RPGs (lots of social interaction) or go out and drink a few beers. Moral panics isn't good either but as a parent you of course need to see that your teenagers spend some time in the real world.

    But blaming the games for it is just silly, in fact soccer fans tend to get far more violent than gamers.
  • HannyyHannyy Member UncommonPosts: 12
    I dont think so. I grow up with video games and used to play even postal games as a kid. Next to games i like to go fishing and had a longer break of a few years when i couldnt go fishing. So after returning, and catching my first fish, i felt so bad about it, couldnt gett off the thought that i killed an animal, for weeks.
    I acutally think that the media and globalization made us just more exposed to violence that any video game could do. But seeing violence out of your comfort zone and experiencing it first hand in real life is a another pair of shoes imho.

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  • TanemundTanemund Member UncommonPosts: 153
    If anything I'd say the opposite is true.  Sometimes there is no better way to blow off steam than to log into your favorite FPS and go on a virtual killing spree. 

    I can honestly say I've never logged OFF a video game and thought, "Man, I think I'll go shoot up a Starbucks."  What's amazing is that there has been no evidence linking video games to real life violence by any group of people but the firs thing the news will lock onto when they report on someone who has killed another is 1) the killers were playing video games and 2) the killers were listening to heavy metal music.  Because as everyone knows every single video gamer out there is a maladjusted and emotionally stunted power nerd who is pissed at the world because he didn't get dates in high school and, therefore, just can't wait to get his hands on a firearm and go shoot everyone at the local Gas and Sip.

    That's the way bideo games and gamers are still stigmatized in this society.  We're portrayed as angry lone nuts living in they're Mom's basement plotting revenge on the world that was so cruel to them.  Its almost more acceptable to tell someone you're into porn than video games.  Gods forbid you play a little Mario Cart and then have a car accident.  Then you were just a ticking time bomb that was egged on by the brutality of monsters crashing cars into one another without consequences. 

    Yet everyone turns a blind eye when thousands of guys wearing football jerseys beat their wives because their favorite team lost on Saturday or Sunday.  Athletics is where you find the culture of Might Makes Right, Entitlement and Evasion of Consequences that lead to violence and abuse.  You're infinitely more likely to be bullied and beaten by a football player than shot by a gamer.  But those gamers, boy they're the dangerous ones.

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member EpicPosts: 7,938
    Its all about the brain. In its formative years you learn right and wrong and how to interact with the world. The first 15-18 years of your life often will point you in the direction of how you will behave for the rest of your life. Fact, I have seen it happen many times. You stick a buch of kids in the room and watch a violent show or play a violent video game. When its over the kids will act out. Put the same group of kids in a room and have them watch something up building and they show concern for each other. Kids get enough violent input and they will have a personality different then a kid brought up on wholesome input.

    Now take an adult different story. When you have had the foundation of the proper upbringing in the formative years. You can let them play and watch something violent and they will know right from wrong. It will not greatly effect their personality. I have lived long enough to see what the current generation raised on violet video games and adult shows looks like. Then I see someone with kids well behaved and with a little probing as to why they are that way, well its parent that get how to keep their kids away from violent adult content. I have taken the time to ask parents of bad kids and good kids what their minds are fed on. My wife works in the school system and also has seen the same outcome. 

    In short, it can yes effect you. The severity has to do with age.  



  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Hannyy said:
    I dont think so. I grow up with video games and used to play even postal games as a kid. Next to games i like to go fishing and had a longer break of a few years when i couldnt go fishing. So after returning, and catching my first fish, i felt so bad about it, couldnt gett off the thought that i killed an animal, for weeks.
    I acutally think that the media and globalization made us just more exposed to violence that any video game could do. But seeing violence out of your comfort zone and experiencing it first hand in real life is a another pair of shoes imho.

    Yeah, seen that "Bullshit" episode when Teller gives a 10 year old kid who plays counterstrike a lot an M16 to shoot. The kids cry pretty hard after firing it.

    Real violence is very different from games. Heck, even paintball and airsoft is very different, the adrenaline level gets far higher there.

    Now, while I been in the Swedish airforce myself I never actually killed anyone (thankfully, and no, I wasn't a pilot). I have however been in a barfight or 2 and it is pretty different from Tekken and not fun in any way.

    People claiming they are similar have zero clue.
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member EpicPosts: 7,938
    Hannyy said:
    I dont think so. I grow up with video games and used to play even postal games as a kid. Next to games i like to go fishing and had a longer break of a few years when i couldnt go fishing. So after returning, and catching my first fish, i felt so bad about it, couldnt gett off the thought that i killed an animal, for weeks.
    I acutally think that the media and globalization made us just more exposed to violence that any video game could do. But seeing violence out of your comfort zone and experiencing it first hand in real life is a another pair of shoes imho.

    Growing up on Mario Brothers and other games made in the 80-90s is different then the kids now being raised on Grand Theft Auto and other M rated games.



  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 28,158
    Nanfoodle said:
    Hannyy said:
    I dont think so. I grow up with video games and used to play even postal games as a kid. Next to games i like to go fishing and had a longer break of a few years when i couldnt go fishing. So after returning, and catching my first fish, i felt so bad about it, couldnt gett off the thought that i killed an animal, for weeks.
    I acutally think that the media and globalization made us just more exposed to violence that any video game could do. But seeing violence out of your comfort zone and experiencing it first hand in real life is a another pair of shoes imho.

    Growing up on Mario Brothers and other games made in the 80-90s is different then the kids now being raised on Grand Theft Auto and other M rated games.
    yeah but kids have always played "violent" games. I didn't have video games as a younger child (as they weren't around) but we played war or knights and all sorts of scenarios where there was fake killing.





  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Nanfoodle said:
    Growing up on Mario Brothers and other games made in the 80-90s is different then the kids now being raised on Grand Theft Auto and other M rated games.
    Uhm, there were other games back then as well that were pretty gory. Commandy Libya (C-64), Deathwish 3 (amiga) and Postal 1 & 2 (PC) got a lot of complaints back then for example. The games might look better today but they they certainly aren't more violent.

    I would say that the violence have been about the same since the early days of C-64 and if you think different you might have forgotten or missed some of the "gems" from the so called golden age of gaming.
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,036
    Sovrath said:
    yeah but kids have always played "violent" games. I didn't have video games as a younger child (as they weren't around) but we played war or knights and all sorts of scenarios where there was fake killing.
    This!
  • RusqueRusque Member RarePosts: 2,785
    Lots of activities can trigger aggression, I think we've seen plenty of studies showing that violent video games are one of those activities. However, a better study would be to identify what causes aggression to translate into real life violence and what those break points are (if possible to measure).

    It's kind of like, sad movies trigger feelings of sadness and empathy, what at what level do those feelings manifest into actual tears? I'm fairly certain it's heavily dependent on the individual and their current emotional state. I'd say it's similar with violent video games, different people will react differently and those prone to violence are likely more responsive to triggers and unfortunately triggers could be anything. For some violent imagery could be a trigger, for others watching fox news, for others msnbc, for other home shopping network, maybe even wikipedia (I'm sure wikipedia drives plenty of professors nuts), and so on. What makes any one person angry and potentially violent is based on their preferences and beliefs, so even if violent video games increase aggression - it doesn't really mean much.
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member EpicPosts: 7,938
    Sovrath said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    Hannyy said:
    I dont think so. I grow up with video games and used to play even postal games as a kid. Next to games i like to go fishing and had a longer break of a few years when i couldnt go fishing. So after returning, and catching my first fish, i felt so bad about it, couldnt gett off the thought that i killed an animal, for weeks.
    I acutally think that the media and globalization made us just more exposed to violence that any video game could do. But seeing violence out of your comfort zone and experiencing it first hand in real life is a another pair of shoes imho.

    Growing up on Mario Brothers and other games made in the 80-90s is different then the kids now being raised on Grand Theft Auto and other M rated games.
    yeah but kids have always played "violent" games. I didn't have video games as a younger child (as they weren't around) but we played war or knights and all sorts of scenarios where there was fake killing.


    Yes I agree but you only acted out and saw in your mind from the prospective of what you knew, what you had seen. Now kids play M rated games that show the gore of RL. To the above posting the violent games on the C-64, they are nothing compared to the game of today. That let you rape, kill, pimp in a graphic nature. What we see in M rated games today, is not the same kind of violent content we digested as kids 10-20 years ago. We still needed to often use our imagination to picture what was happening on the screen, today many M rated games show it in full gory detail. 



  • WarlyxWarlyx Member RarePosts: 2,995
    bah i never been a violent guy , and i have played violent games since i was teen , playing Arcades that were about killing everything on sight , wolfenstein and so on....

    if u are violent , games are a easy way to put that rage there , instead of other ppl....
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,036
    edited August 2015
    Nanfoodle said:
    Yes I agree but you only acted out and saw in your mind from the prospective of what you knew, what you had seen. Now kids play M rated games that show the gore of RL. To the above posting the violent games on the C-64, they are nothing compared to the game of today. That let you rape, kill, pimp in a graphic nature. What we see in M rated games today, is not the same kind of violent content we digested as kids 10-20 years ago. We still needed to often use our imagination to picture what was happening on the screen, today many M rated games show it in full gory detail. 
    Doesn't matter - it is still the game, regardless.

    The only problem is when when your sense for reality is disturbed. And that is very much different issue.

  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member EpicPosts: 7,938
    Gdemami said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    Yes I agree but you only acted out and saw in your mind from the prospective of what you knew, what you had seen. Now kids play M rated games that show the gore of RL. To the above posting the violent games on the C-64, they are nothing compared to the game of today. That let you rape, kill, pimp in a graphic nature. What we see in M rated games today, is not the same kind of violent content we digested as kids 10-20 years ago. We still needed to often use our imagination to picture what was happening on the screen, today many M rated games show it in full gory detail. 
    Doesn't matter - it is still the game, regardless.

    The only problem is when when your sense to determine the difference between a reality and the game is disturbed. Very much different issue.

    I suggest you google child development and formative years.



  • tupodawg999tupodawg999 Member UncommonPosts: 724
    I think it's more likely to drain violent urges (although I'm a bit concerned about realistic violence desensitizing people to suffering but that's a different subject and TV/movies are worse for that anyway).

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,036
    Nanfoodle said:
    I suggest you google child development and formative years.
    I suggest you goole pseudo-science.
  • ArtificeVenatusArtificeVenatus Member UncommonPosts: 1,236
    There has been violence on this planet as long as there have been animals to attack other animals, and even their own kind.

    I wonder if video games made human tribes attack, have their way with and kill each other thousands of years ago? Hundreds of years ago?

    I wonder if video games make wildlife predators tear apart and feed on vegetation feeding creatures? While they are still alive even?

    The stupidity of people to actually believe that video games cause violence any more than any play (classical and modern), book (including religious books), radio broadcasts, music, television shows, etc, etc, etc.

    Violence is at it's base, programmed into all animals, humans included.

    It is supposed to be our intellect and being civilized
    , that allow us to be able to not act on those thoughts. And we do all get those thoughts... Driving the car? Waiting in lines? Choose your trigger, as your programming has chosen to what degree you will be triggered.

    Without being able to account for violent triggers without technology involved, there is no way that any intellectual study can be legitimately conducted surrounding the effects of any technological entertainment. Studies like this should get people violent  ;)
  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,113
    Lets not forget movies like "Rampage" or "Assault On Wallstreet" two good examples of movies some Teen might watch and then try to copy.

    . Violent Games do actually change people for example someone who would think twice about a shooting in the past in a RL situation and played games like Americas Army is likely to change.

    The main thing to teach here is that firearms are not toys, and you do not respawn in real life.

    Talking about games like "GTA" "Movies"
    . However censorship isn't an option because not teaching young people about things like Law, Drugs, Abuse of alcohol, they are more likely to do this at least one time in their life, and there is one drug out I am sure a lot of people know about it because you could in the past buy this at any store and just doing it one time and its pretty much over with, however this drug is pretty much being legally sold everywhere online now, the problem I am talking about is in Schools for example they don't really talk enough to Youngsters about Drugs, they just say "Say no to Drugs" and that isn't good enough these days, but doesn't go into details about what can happen if you use.

    . This doesn't include the "Violent Materials" you can find on YouTube un-censored, as well as instructions to make explosives, like people on YouTube teaching making fire-works, or crazy experiments all the time some young kid tries this and ends up doing something they shouldn't while not really illegal to have knowledge of science, or chemistry in the hands of someone whose young it can be a problem.

    . You can also find some of the most inhumane things on YouTube, while not too graphic, because its history it does teach some of the most inhumane things a human could do, and its uncensored, and some of the disturbing things I saw a few days ago on YouTube really brought a bunch of thought to this.

    . Back in my day of going to school, all students used to talk about is how they murdered people in the game known as Man Hunt and how I should play the game, censorship won't work unless its done by everyone, even then you have to keep in mind the local news what it shows, and you can't even allow your Teens to watch this without being exposed let alone the "Real World" in the bigger city's of crimes that go on there.

    . This doesn't include bullying in schools, or other students pressuring others to do something which is a common problem, and over half the time School Administration does not do anything about it, and bullying goes on a lot.

    . As for violent games, movies, videos, and such changing people I would have to say watching such changed me in many ways over the years I don't even know if its appropriate to go into full details here about it.
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