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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member EpicPosts: 7,002
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    While everyone complains and laments over their gaming experiences I am having a blast, best era ever!
    yeh .. Destiny 2 looks fun. 
    I am talking about games that are out right now that you can buy and play right now.

    MMORPG forum posters tend to ONLY think about games in the future as if talking about gaming only means future games not current games
    The great thing about games in the future is they don't suck yet....Those of us that have been playing a few years have heard how great games are going t obe all the time and know that most of them ultimately end up stinking.
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    While everyone complains and laments over their gaming experiences I am having a blast, best era ever!
    yeh .. Destiny 2 looks fun. 
    I am talking about games that are out right now that you can buy and play right now.

    MMORPG forum posters tend to ONLY think about games in the future as if talking about gaming only means future games not current games
    The great thing about games in the future is they don't suck yet....Those of us that have been playing a few years have heard how great games are going t obe all the time and know that most of them ultimately end up stinking.
    i disagree.

    I think the games of today (not yesterday or in the future) but of today are the best in the history of gaming. but you have to be willing to look outside the games that are marketed

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  • ithilmirithilmir Member UncommonPosts: 5
    For current games, I think Elder Scrolls Online and The Secret World (even Legends if you don't mind a bit less mmo feel) are the best bets, and offer something different. Also I really enjoyed Skyforge for a while.

    That said, I am more looking forward to the "new wave" of more immersing MMORPGs that will be available in 1-2 years: mainly The Chronicles of Elyria and Ashes of Creation. Even Dark and Light seems like it will be fun, even in the limited mmo scope.

    So no, comparing to a few years ago, where it was WoW or nothing, it is much better right now and seems to be getting even better.
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited June 2017
    ithilmir said:
    For current games, I think Elder Scrolls Online and The Secret World (even Legends if you don't mind a bit less mmo feel) are the best bets, and offer something different. Also I really enjoyed Skyforge for a while.

    That said, I am more looking forward to the "new wave" of more immersing MMORPGs that will be available in 1-2 years: mainly The Chronicles of Elyria and Ashes of Creation. Even Dark and Light seems like it will be fun, even in the limited mmo scope.

    So no, comparing to a few years ago, where it was WoW or nothing, it is much better right now and seems to be getting even better.
    i cant agree with those games being a leap forward, what is happening in the Single Player early access industry is a leap forward and yes....those game mechanics can be translated to MMO

    Dual Universe is an example of a leap forward

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  • OG_ZorvanOG_Zorvan Member EpicPosts: 1,830
    mgilbrtsn said:
     and yes, in the long range, the much maligned and favorite boogey MMO man, Star Citizen.
    I too look forward to E.T. Part Deux.


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  • RealizerRealizer Member RarePosts: 724
    ithilmir said:
    For current games, I think Elder Scrolls Online and The Secret World (even Legends if you don't mind a bit less mmo feel) are the best bets, and offer something different. Also I really enjoyed Skyforge for a while.

    That said, I am more looking forward to the "new wave" of more immersing MMORPGs that will be available in 1-2 years: mainly The Chronicles of Elyria and Ashes of Creation. Even Dark and Light seems like it will be fun, even in the limited mmo scope.

    So no, comparing to a few years ago, where it was WoW or nothing, it is much better right now and seems to be getting even better.
     I might agree that ESO, and SWL offer their own respective niches for the market, I have much doubt that the other 3 titles mentioned will even launch. 

     CoE, and AoC, two games started by guys with ZERO experience. Meanwhile DnL has been on hiatus for 10+ years, and will only allow 50-100 players per server.  Snail will probably end up scrapping it when the other games start launching later this year.  That's my guess. 
  • AvanahAvanah Member RarePosts: 1,497
    OP, Are you living under a Rock? ;)

    Chronicles of Elyria
    Ashes of Creation
    Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen


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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Avanah said:
    OP, Are you living under a Rock? ;)

    Chronicles of Elyria
    Ashes of Creation
    Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen


    in my opinion Dual Universe is FAR more interesting 

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  • RealizerRealizer Member RarePosts: 724
     Making a good game these days is more about if you are capable of running an ethical company, to get things done right instead of "Minimally Viable."  That's a super simplified nutshell, but frankly many of us have been around long enough to know it's true. 

     There are some titles I'm interested in definitely. Excited is a bit tougher to say at this point. I'll be excited when some actual gameplay is released from any of these titles previously mentioned. Gameplay that can be experienced by more than just one character model on a dev screen. 

     Then we can open that can of worms called, "Is it fun?" 
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Realizer said:
     Making a good game these days is more about if you are capable of running an ethical company, to get things done right instead of "Minimally Viable."  That's a super simplified nutshell, but frankly many of us have been around long enough to know it's true. 

     There are some titles I'm interested in definitely. Excited is a bit tougher to say at this point. I'll be excited when some actual gameplay is released from any of these titles previously mentioned. Gameplay that can be experienced by more than just one character model on a dev screen. 

     Then we can open that can of worms called, "Is it fun?" 
    If one wants to druel over the possiblity of the future they can follow Dual Universe.
    if one wants complelling game play now they can play Emperium Galaxic Survial

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  • RealizerRealizer Member RarePosts: 724
    SEANMCAD said:
    Realizer said:
     Making a good game these days is more about if you are capable of running an ethical company, to get things done right instead of "Minimally Viable."  That's a super simplified nutshell, but frankly many of us have been around long enough to know it's true. 

     There are some titles I'm interested in definitely. Excited is a bit tougher to say at this point. I'll be excited when some actual gameplay is released from any of these titles previously mentioned. Gameplay that can be experienced by more than just one character model on a dev screen. 

     Then we can open that can of worms called, "Is it fun?" 
    If one wants to druel over the possiblity of the future they can follow Dual Universe.
    if one wants complelling game play now they can play Emperium Galaxic Survial
     It's a possibility they could be great, or they could end up being No Man's Sky 2, and 3, time will tell. 
  • EldurianEldurian Member EpicPosts: 2,736
    Avanah said:
    OP, Are you living under a Rock? ;)

    Chronicles of Elyria
    Ashes of Creation
    Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen
    Not everyone likes the same thing. For instance CoE is toward the bottom of my list for games that might be my eventual MMO, and the other two aren't even on it.

    Crowfall is 2nd from the top on my list and the OP specifically says it doesn't look good to him.
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Realizer said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    Realizer said:
     Making a good game these days is more about if you are capable of running an ethical company, to get things done right instead of "Minimally Viable."  That's a super simplified nutshell, but frankly many of us have been around long enough to know it's true. 

     There are some titles I'm interested in definitely. Excited is a bit tougher to say at this point. I'll be excited when some actual gameplay is released from any of these titles previously mentioned. Gameplay that can be experienced by more than just one character model on a dev screen. 

     Then we can open that can of worms called, "Is it fun?" 
    If one wants to druel over the possiblity of the future they can follow Dual Universe.
    if one wants complelling game play now they can play Emperium Galaxic Survial
     It's a possibility they could be great, or they could end up being No Man's Sky 2, and 3, time will tell. 
    I have played Emperium Galaxic Survial and its friggin awesome. light years away from normal.

    when selecting one unreleased title and another unreleased title to be excited about should the criteria be different? meaning should i not get excited about Dual Universe because it might end up like No Mans Sky but I should get excited about somehting else that is not yet out because it will not?

    bizzare logic no?

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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Eldurian said:
    Avanah said:
    OP, Are you living under a Rock? ;)

    Chronicles of Elyria
    Ashes of Creation
    Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen
    Not everyone likes the same thing. For instance CoE is toward the bottom of my list for games that might be my eventual MMO, and the other two aren't even on it.

    Crowfall is 2nd from the top on my list and the OP specifically says it doesn't look good to him.
    two words

    Dual
    Universe
    blueturtle13

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  • EldurianEldurian Member EpicPosts: 2,736
    SEANMCAD said:
    Eldurian said:
    Avanah said:
    OP, Are you living under a Rock? ;)

    Chronicles of Elyria
    Ashes of Creation
    Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen
    Not everyone likes the same thing. For instance CoE is toward the bottom of my list for games that might be my eventual MMO, and the other two aren't even on it.

    Crowfall is 2nd from the top on my list and the OP specifically says it doesn't look good to him.
    two words

    Dual
    Universe
    Eh. Sci-Fi games don't even really make it on my radar unless they are called Star Citizen. If it totally flops on it's face maybe that will change but as is the main reason I even care about the Sci-Fi genre is how much I loved Freelancer (Chris Robert's last game.) I was one of those weird FL vets that never saw SG1, Star Trek, or almost any sci-fi series other than Star Wars and Firefly.

    Fantasy games do make it on my radar because there is no fantasy MMO in development that seems to offer absolutely everything I want from an fantasy MMO.
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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Eldurian said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    Eldurian said:
    Avanah said:
    OP, Are you living under a Rock? ;)

    Chronicles of Elyria
    Ashes of Creation
    Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen
    Not everyone likes the same thing. For instance CoE is toward the bottom of my list for games that might be my eventual MMO, and the other two aren't even on it.

    Crowfall is 2nd from the top on my list and the OP specifically says it doesn't look good to him.
    two words

    Dual
    Universe
    Eh. Sci-Fi games don't even really make it on my radar unless they are called Star Citizen. If it totally flops on it's face maybe that will change but as is the main reason I even care about the Sci-Fi genre is how much I loved Freelancer (Chris Robert's last game.) I was one of those weird FL vets that never saw SG1, Star Trek, or almost any sci-fi series other than Star Wars and Firefly.

    Fantasy games do make it on my radar because there is no fantasy MMO in development that seems to offer absolutely everything I want from an fantasy MMO.
    I am constantly floored at how uninterested people are in crafting and building

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  • EldurianEldurian Member EpicPosts: 2,736
    SEANMCAD said:
    Eldurian said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    Eldurian said:
    Avanah said:
    OP, Are you living under a Rock? ;)

    Chronicles of Elyria
    Ashes of Creation
    Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen
    Not everyone likes the same thing. For instance CoE is toward the bottom of my list for games that might be my eventual MMO, and the other two aren't even on it.

    Crowfall is 2nd from the top on my list and the OP specifically says it doesn't look good to him.
    two words

    Dual
    Universe
    Eh. Sci-Fi games don't even really make it on my radar unless they are called Star Citizen. If it totally flops on it's face maybe that will change but as is the main reason I even care about the Sci-Fi genre is how much I loved Freelancer (Chris Robert's last game.) I was one of those weird FL vets that never saw SG1, Star Trek, or almost any sci-fi series other than Star Wars and Firefly.

    Fantasy games do make it on my radar because there is no fantasy MMO in development that seems to offer absolutely everything I want from an fantasy MMO.
    I am constantly floored at how uninterested people are in crafting and building
    I am quite interested in those things. Wurm Online is my favorite MMO after all. But what I'm looking for in my next MMO is something that has that in addition to engaging combat and player politics. 
  • paulythebpaulytheb Member UncommonPosts: 363
    I think it is humorous how this necro thread from 2015 is still relevant today.

    It IS taking some time for those Kickstarter games to develop, isn't it?

    Some look interesting to me like Crowfall and Ashes of Creation. I am not excited at all for any of them though.

    I'm not a huge PVP guy, but I'll do my best. I think Crowfall is going to surprise a lot of people. It has ideas that are new and I like that. I wish they would add in a little more PVE aspects like one shot random dungeons or one shot random Dragon lair spawns. Maybe after they get the core game running. Still the pieces of a cool game are there.

    I think once people understand they won't really have to PVP if they don't want to, Crowfall will take off. Crowfall isn't going to be you and your 4 friends against the world. The wars being fought on the dying worlds will put hundreds of people on your side. Some will be at the front lines fighting to gain or hold territory, but there will be vast tracts of territory that are relatively safe and that is where the work will be done. The food will be cooked, the armor repaired and the swords sharpened. Resources will have to located, secured from monsters (they have said resource nodes will attract monsters) and turned into implements of war. Fortresses will need to be built, mines secured and worked, catapults and ballista's will need builders and crews. But it wont be just you and a couple buddies. It will be hundreds. Huge Fortresses and towns will pop up.

    Now if you choose you could pick a profession, lets say potion maker, that basically you never have to leave the main town that will pop up as soon as a new world launches. People will bring you potion supplies they have no use for, which you will make into potions for a price. Never leaving your nice townhouse unless you choose. (After an initial "launch period" where you will likely locate some potion supplies of your own to set up shop.)
    Of course, if your side loses the war badly, your town might get ransacked and you might die and lose wealth, but what did you think was going to happen from losing a war?

    The options for stories like this are going to be limitless. Maybe while you where trying to gain your first supplies, you encounter a Wyvern or something you can't kill guarding the potion resource bush you need to go pick. Now you have to go find someone who CAN kill the Wyvern and will have to make a deal with them to get them to come do your dirty work for you. In return you make potions for your champion and foster a relationship that will last until this world ends.

    Then you will need someone to build your house for you, you specialized in potions after all, or perhaps a strong player, a warlord really, commissions a fortress built and invites you to live inside, for your expertise and to strengthen his forces.

    If it is your wish though most of the time you will be safe, at home, deep in friendly territory unless YOU decide to go off in search of some action. So, yes there is PVE in Crowfall it is just not traditional questjunk, it is more personal.
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  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon Member RarePosts: 3,407
    paulytheb said:
    I think it is humorous how this necro thread from 2015 is still relevant today.

    It IS taking some time for those Kickstarter games to develop, isn't it?

    Some look interesting to me like Crowfall and Ashes of Creation. I am not excited at all for any of them though.

    I'm not a huge PVP guy, but I'll do my best. I think Crowfall is going to surprise a lot of people. It has ideas that are new and I like that. I wish they would add in a little more PVE aspects like one shot random dungeons or one shot random Dragon lair spawns. Maybe after they get the core game running. Still the pieces of a cool game are there.

    I think once people understand they won't really have to PVP if they don't want to, Crowfall will take off. Crowfall isn't going to be you and your 4 friends against the world. The wars being fought on the dying worlds will put hundreds of people on your side. Some will be at the front lines fighting to gain or hold territory, but there will be vast tracts of territory that are relatively safe and that is where the work will be done. The food will be cooked, the armor repaired and the swords sharpened. Resources will have to located, secured from monsters (they have said resource nodes will attract monsters) and turned into implements of war. Fortresses will need to be built, mines secured and worked, catapults and ballista's will need builders and crews. But it wont be just you and a couple buddies. It will be hundreds. Huge Fortresses and towns will pop up.

    Now if you choose you could pick a profession, lets say potion maker, that basically you never have to leave the main town that will pop up as soon as a new world launches. People will bring you potion supplies they have no use for, which you will make into potions for a price. Never leaving your nice townhouse unless you choose. (After an initial "launch period" where you will likely locate some potion supplies of your own to set up shop.)
    Of course, if your side loses the war badly, your town might get ransacked and you might die and lose wealth, but what did you think was going to happen from losing a war?

    The options for stories like this are going to be limitless. Maybe while you where trying to gain your first supplies, you encounter a Wyvern or something you can't kill guarding the potion resource bush you need to go pick. Now you have to go find someone who CAN kill the Wyvern and will have to make a deal with them to get them to come do your dirty work for you. In return you make potions for your champion and foster a relationship that will last until this world ends.

    Then you will need someone to build your house for you, you specialized in potions after all, or perhaps a strong player, a warlord really, commissions a fortress built and invites you to live inside, for your expertise and to strengthen his forces.

    If it is your wish though most of the time you will be safe, at home, deep in friendly territory unless YOU decide to go off in search of some action. So, yes there is PVE in Crowfall it is just not traditional questjunk, it is more personal.


    Nice try pal but it's a PvP game no matter how you try to sugar coat it. Why would I play this when I can play a true pve game like Pantheon. 




  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 26,972
    SEANMCAD said:
    Eldurian said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    Eldurian said:
    Avanah said:
    OP, Are you living under a Rock? ;)

    Chronicles of Elyria
    Ashes of Creation
    Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen
    Not everyone likes the same thing. For instance CoE is toward the bottom of my list for games that might be my eventual MMO, and the other two aren't even on it.

    Crowfall is 2nd from the top on my list and the OP specifically says it doesn't look good to him.
    two words

    Dual
    Universe
    Eh. Sci-Fi games don't even really make it on my radar unless they are called Star Citizen. If it totally flops on it's face maybe that will change but as is the main reason I even care about the Sci-Fi genre is how much I loved Freelancer (Chris Robert's last game.) I was one of those weird FL vets that never saw SG1, Star Trek, or almost any sci-fi series other than Star Wars and Firefly.

    Fantasy games do make it on my radar because there is no fantasy MMO in development that seems to offer absolutely everything I want from an fantasy MMO.
    I am constantly floored at how uninterested people are in crafting and building
    That's because many of these games don't "do it well".

    But we've had this conversation already ...



  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited June 2017
    Sovrath said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    Eldurian said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    Eldurian said:
    Avanah said:
    OP, Are you living under a Rock? ;)

    Chronicles of Elyria
    Ashes of Creation
    Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen
    Not everyone likes the same thing. For instance CoE is toward the bottom of my list for games that might be my eventual MMO, and the other two aren't even on it.

    Crowfall is 2nd from the top on my list and the OP specifically says it doesn't look good to him.
    two words

    Dual
    Universe
    Eh. Sci-Fi games don't even really make it on my radar unless they are called Star Citizen. If it totally flops on it's face maybe that will change but as is the main reason I even care about the Sci-Fi genre is how much I loved Freelancer (Chris Robert's last game.) I was one of those weird FL vets that never saw SG1, Star Trek, or almost any sci-fi series other than Star Wars and Firefly.

    Fantasy games do make it on my radar because there is no fantasy MMO in development that seems to offer absolutely everything I want from an fantasy MMO.
    I am constantly floored at how uninterested people are in crafting and building
    That's because many of these games don't "do it well".

    But we've had this conversation already ...
    so people here only like what is popular regardless of the game content and that is why they like content is only because its popular?

    not sure I am following you.

    I think you are looking at the quality of a game based on sales figures, I am looking directly and specifically at the game mechanics themselves.
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  • paulythebpaulytheb Member UncommonPosts: 363
    paulytheb said: *snip*


    Nice try pal but it's a PvP game no matter how you try to sugar coat it. Why would I play this when I can play a true pve game like Pantheon. 
    I can't speak for you sir, and I did not back Crowfall or any other of these games in development.

    *I* am going to purchase Crowfall when it releases because; it is something different, has interesting (and different) player character options, has deep and meaningful crafting, has a skill based advancement system not level based, has interesting lore and reasons for the war in heaven being played out on mortal battlefields and because I am not afraid of a little PVP.

    The best reason is because Crowfall allows for deep strategy, intrigue and politics that are more real because they will arise organically, from real people behind those powerplayers in game. Instead of some built in script about somehow killing ten rats will save the princess.

    I'm also watching Pantheon and AOC and COE and a bunch of the others, it is just that they are not looking as good right now.

    I'll check them all out probably, if they aren't Pay to Win, and I actually hope at least 2 or 3 of these games end up being pretty good with room to improve at launch. I also hope star citizen launches someday while I am still alive and blows us all away.

    But I'm not gonna hold my breath on any of them.

    I just think Crowfall looks the coolest right now, and is going to surprise a lot of people.

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  • Saxx0nSaxx0n PR/Brand Manager BitBox Ltd.Member UncommonPosts: 999
    Life is Feudal:MMO is looking good and getting ready for open beta in the coming months, not that I am biased or anything. ;) 
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    paulytheb said:
    paulytheb said: *snip*


    Nice try pal but it's a PvP game no matter how you try to sugar coat it. Why would I play this when I can play a true pve game like Pantheon. 
    , and is going to surprise a lot of people.
    same thing was said about Darkfall.

    I personally think the such statements about Darkfall (that it would suprise) are warranted and its a great game for its time but it appears the market of 'a lot of people' didnt agree.

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  • paulythebpaulytheb Member UncommonPosts: 363
    SEANMCAD said:
    paulytheb said:
    paulytheb said: *snip*


    Nice try pal but it's a PvP game no matter how you try to sugar coat it. Why would I play this when I can play a true pve game like Pantheon. 
    , and is going to surprise a lot of people.
    same thing was said about Darkfall.

    I personally think the such statements about Darkfall (that it would suprise) are warranted and its a great game for its time but it appears the market of 'a lot of people' didnt agree.
    I have in fact been wrong before ! LOL

    This is why I am waiting for games to launch, before they even get a whiff of my money.

    I still hope a couple of these games are good, including Crowfall. History says most will fail though.

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