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  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,797
    Originally posted by pingo

    I sold some stuff in my bank yesterday and converted 143 gold to 800 gems and got my character slot for my Norn Revernant that way. 

    I think it's weird how the vocal hostile toxic minority just brushes off these sort of points. Because they are coming at this like an agenda. 

    What you say is reasonable, what they say is not. It's delusional pathetic. I'll rip a new on this expansion if I decide to buy it and I think the reviews sound justifiable, but I'll wait until I have it. 

    For one, hostile and toxic are harsh words for people who simply criticize the price and the way the pre-purchase has been handled so far.

    Second your point is: They don't need the usual pre-purchase bonus because they can buy it with ingame currency.

     

    That's not a very valid point is it?

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  • Nemesis7884Nemesis7884 Member UncommonPosts: 1,023
    does it really matter if the expansion is overpriced? what alternative is there?
  • mazutmazut Member UncommonPosts: 988
    And who knows what exactly we will get!?
  • MukeMuke Member RarePosts: 2,614

    Funny that Anet as a company that does not have a subscription, puts out a outstanding game, puts all extra gear and character expansions etc etc etc in a ingame cashshop for free -you can buy everything so easily by exchanging easily farmed gold, ppl are actually that dumb to buy gems with RL money?????-  asks for $50 for a full expansion. The first time they ask for money in 3 years since release.

    Yet these complainers have no problem plunging hundreds / thousands of dollars in kickstarters (SC for example, when will it be released? --> noone knows) or buy preorder kits of games that are probably never going to be launched, at least not in the way they presented it (EQNext) and pay for subscription models and another same old 13-in-a-dozen raid release with every 2-3y a expansion which they run trough within a week. (WoW)

    No problem with that. But a company that charges $50 once / 3 years? "Burn them!"

    Fkin awesome self entitled popcorn whines.

    "going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"

  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter Member UncommonPosts: 3,065
    Originally posted by JohnP0100

    And the train wreck continues.....

    Apparently Visa temporary suspended all payments to ANet/NCSoft yesterday (exact time is not known) and they only do that if there's a large amount of charge back for a particular merchant/company or too many suspicious transaction etc.

    Since a major security breach is unlikely, I'd say the expansion is off to a terrible start.

    Did anyone have trouble with buying the expansion / Gems yesterday?

    Source?

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  • pingopingo Member UncommonPosts: 608
    Originally posted by Muke

    Funny that Anet as a company that does not have a subscription, puts out a outstanding game, puts all extra gear and character expansions etc etc etc in a ingame cashshop for free -you can buy everything so easily by exchanging easily farmed gold, ppl are actually that dumb to buy gems with RL money?????-  asks for $50 for a full expansion. The first time they ask for money in 3 years since release.

    Yet these complainers have no problem plunging hundreds / thousands of dollars in kickstarters (SC for example, when will it be released? --> noone knows) or buy preorder kits of games that are probably never going to be launched, at least not in the way they presented it (EQNext) and pay for subscription models and another same old 13-in-a-dozen raid release with every 2-3y a expansion which they run trough within a week. (WoW)

    No problem with that. But a company that charges $50 once / 3 years? "Burn them!"

    Fkin awesome self entitled popcorn whines.

    They will argue that (Dystopia and the other one, Dekarau or something) that this is about "value" to try and divert the discussion away from these truths, because they know their arguments hold no actual water. They, and others may be succesful out of bullying Anet to give them something, but that would truly be the actual crime of all this if Anet falls for their depraved demands.

     

    Lots of people have paid full price for products only to have them, the day after go free 2 play, (Hellgate London, APB, TERA, Team Fortress 2, and countless others) and it is understood that it is not your loss because others gain something. But these posters are so selfish and greedy that they will look at others instead of what they have - Instead of thinking about all the people who paid more money than they did,or all the people who can't afford games at all.

     

    No. This ultimately about someone getting a better deal than them. I don't get it. If you get GW2 for 10 Bucks, that is an amazing deal in and of itself. Someone paid 40 dollars for GW2 before THAT deal went live. So is that person who paid 3 times as much entitled to hellfire and calling Anet for all sorts of crazy crap? No. 

     

    This sub forum have become so annoyingly hostile since this broke out. It's so entitled in the grossest way possible. Nobody asked you to buy this expansion. 

  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,797
    Originally posted by pingo

    They will argue that (Dystopia and the other one, Dekarau or something) that this is about "value" to try and divert the discussion away from these truths, because they know their arguments hold no actual water. They, and others may be succesful out of bullying Anet to give them something, but that would truly be the actual crime of all this if Anet falls for their depraved demands.

     

    Yes we are depraved criminals because we aren't buying a product.

     

    It amuses me how you say we are the toxic community while you are the one personally attacking people.

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  • parpinparpin Member UncommonPosts: 220
    Originally posted by Dakeru
    Originally posted by pingo

    They will argue that (Dystopia and the other one, Dekarau or something) that this is about "value" to try and divert the discussion away from these truths, because they know their arguments hold no actual water. They, and others may be succesful out of bullying Anet to give them something, but that would truly be the actual crime of all this if Anet falls for their depraved demands.

     

    Yes we are depraved criminals because we aren't buying a product.

     

    It amuses me how you say we are the toxic community while you are the one personally attacking people.

    he is right..Anet must not give in to people like you...they must never reduce the price..ALSO THEY MUST ANNOUNCE PAID DLC JUST LIKE ESO AND FILTER SOME BAD APPLES.

  • LudwikLudwik Member UncommonPosts: 407
    No one is paying ArenaNet for 3 years of free updates. Those were free by ANet's choosing and they're in the past. That's not an argument that gets to be used here.

    People are paying for Heart of Thorns. Which as of this moment is half a revenant class, a decent looking PvE map, and an SPvP map. The rest of the expansion isn't done, it's all either vaporware or tech demos.

    When WoW came asking for preorders for WoD, the expansion was 90% feature complete with a playable beta and a release date.

    Heart of Thorns isn't 50% feature complete. Heck, we don't know what half the features are. There is no playable beta. What ArenaNet calls a beta isn't a beta. There isn't even an alpha client. It's a glorified tech demo, the same thing we saw from EQN at their big reveal 2 years ago and everyone knows how that project is going. Oh, there's also no release date. Why is there no release date? Because at their current pace they'd be lucky to have it done while Obama is still in office. It's been 9 months since Silverwastes, the expansion should be almost done instead we don't even know what's in the thing. ArenaNet could declare bankruptcy before HoT is finished then preorders would get nothing. They're obviously strapped for cash considering they won't even throw a character slot into the basic version.

    I wouldn't even pre-order if it was $10 at this point. The chances of them scrapping half the features or just going full 38 Studios is really, really high.
  • Leon1eLeon1e Member UncommonPosts: 791
    Originally posted by pingo
    Originally posted by Muke

    Funny that Anet as a company that does not have a subscription, puts out a outstanding game, puts all extra gear and character expansions etc etc etc in a ingame cashshop for free -you can buy everything so easily by exchanging easily farmed gold, ppl are actually that dumb to buy gems with RL money?????-  asks for $50 for a full expansion. The first time they ask for money in 3 years since release.

    Yet these complainers have no problem plunging hundreds / thousands of dollars in kickstarters (SC for example, when will it be released? --> noone knows) or buy preorder kits of games that are probably never going to be launched, at least not in the way they presented it (EQNext) and pay for subscription models and another same old 13-in-a-dozen raid release with every 2-3y a expansion which they run trough within a week. (WoW)

    No problem with that. But a company that charges $50 once / 3 years? "Burn them!"

    Fkin awesome self entitled popcorn whines.

    They will argue that (Dystopia and the other one, Dekarau or something) that this is about "value" to try and divert the discussion away from these truths, because they know their arguments hold no actual water. They, and others may be succesful out of bullying Anet to give them something, but that would truly be the actual crime of all this if Anet falls for their depraved demands.

     

    Lots of people have paid full price for products only to have them, the day after go free 2 play, (Hellgate London, APB, TERA, Team Fortress 2, and countless others) and it is understood that it is not your loss because others gain something. But these posters are so selfish and greedy that they will look at others instead of what they have - Instead of thinking about all the people who paid more money than they did,or all the people who can't afford games at all.

     

    No. This ultimately about someone getting a better deal than them. I don't get it. If you get GW2 for 10 Bucks, that is an amazing deal in and of itself. Someone paid 40 dollars for GW2 before THAT deal went live. So is that person who paid 3 times as much entitled to hellfire and calling Anet for all sorts of crazy crap? No. 

     

    This sub forum have become so annoyingly hostile since this broke out. It's so entitled in the grossest way possible. Nobody asked you to buy this expansion. 

    Your point is flawed. When a game goes through business model transaction, you ALWAYS have perks. TESO had, all the game you listed had some sort of compensation to the loyal player base. 

    My 2 cents about the "omg you so entitled" juice. Of course people are entitled. It's their money and they want their money's worth. They don't have to buy HoT, and they are making a statement. Move on fanboi. 

    You have no right to judge them. They choose how to spend their money. Atm they are voting with their wallets and you are mr. nobody on internet, to put things into perspective, but them, they are frustrated customers. It's up to ANet to make things right.

    P.S: WildStar is going to give perks to its loyal playerbase when it makes the jump from P2P to F2P as the most recent example. Where is your God now? Entitled much?

  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,858
    Originally posted by Dakeru
    Originally posted by pingo

    I sold some stuff in my bank yesterday and converted 143 gold to 800 gems and got my character slot for my Norn Revernant that way. 

    I think it's weird how the vocal hostile toxic minority just brushes off these sort of points. Because they are coming at this like an agenda. 

    What you say is reasonable, what they say is not. It's delusional pathetic. I'll rip a new on this expansion if I decide to buy it and I think the reviews sound justifiable, but I'll wait until I have it. 

    For one, hostile and toxic are harsh words for people who simply criticize the price and the way the pre-purchase has been handled so far.

    Second your point is: They don't need the usual pre-purchase bonus because they can buy it with ingame currency.

     

    That's not a very valid point is it?

    What has been handled wrong so far? Either you purchase it or don't. /shrug 

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  • saurus123saurus123 Member UncommonPosts: 675

    $50 bucks is the price of the expansion

    that will probably have more content than original gw2 (that was the case with gw1)

     

    deal with it

    whats gonna be next? gonna start a flame becouse you dont like the colour of the expansion box?

  • Leon1eLeon1e Member UncommonPosts: 791
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by Dakeru
    Originally posted by pingo

    I sold some stuff in my bank yesterday and converted 143 gold to 800 gems and got my character slot for my Norn Revernant that way. 

    I think it's weird how the vocal hostile toxic minority just brushes off these sort of points. Because they are coming at this like an agenda. 

    What you say is reasonable, what they say is not. It's delusional pathetic. I'll rip a new on this expansion if I decide to buy it and I think the reviews sound justifiable, but I'll wait until I have it. 

    For one, hostile and toxic are harsh words for people who simply criticize the price and the way the pre-purchase has been handled so far.

    Second your point is: They don't need the usual pre-purchase bonus because they can buy it with ingame currency.

     

    That's not a very valid point is it?

    What has been handled wrong so far? Either you purchase it or don't. /shrug 

    I assume he's referring to the complete silence from ANet, other than the "we're looking into it" by Gaile Gray few days ago. It's pretty obvious really, I don't know how you did not get it./shrug

    @saurus - I'll agree with you, as soon as I see 8 dungeons with 4 paths each :) Dealt with it

  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,797
    Originally posted by Leon1e

    I assume he's referring to the complete silence from ANet, other than the "we're looking into it" by Gaile Gray few days ago. It's pretty obvious really, I don't know how you did not get it./shrug

    @saurus - I'll agree with you, as soon as I see 8 dungeons with 4 paths each :) Dealt with it

    That and HoT itself - if Anet had told us what HoT really contains then none of this may have happened.

    I'm too old to buy the cat in the bag.

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  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,858
    Originally posted by Leon1e
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by Dakeru
    Originally posted by pingo

    I sold some stuff in my bank yesterday and converted 143 gold to 800 gems and got my character slot for my Norn Revernant that way. 

    I think it's weird how the vocal hostile toxic minority just brushes off these sort of points. Because they are coming at this like an agenda. 

    What you say is reasonable, what they say is not. It's delusional pathetic. I'll rip a new on this expansion if I decide to buy it and I think the reviews sound justifiable, but I'll wait until I have it. 

    For one, hostile and toxic are harsh words for people who simply criticize the price and the way the pre-purchase has been handled so far.

    Second your point is: They don't need the usual pre-purchase bonus because they can buy it with ingame currency.

     

    That's not a very valid point is it?

    What has been handled wrong so far? Either you purchase it or don't. /shrug 

    I assume he's referring to the complete silence from ANet, other than the "we're looking into it" by Gaile Gray few days ago. It's pretty obvious really, I don't know how you did not get it./shrug

    @saurus - I'll agree with you, as soon as I see 8 dungeons with 4 paths each :) Dealt with it

    I think you are reading into what pingo was saying too much.  It didn't have anything to do with purchasing the expansion with gems, just a slot. 

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  • SaluteSalute Member UncommonPosts: 795
    I guess all of those who say that they find HoT to be expensive, they were smart enough and didnt bought the ESO imperial edition, right?

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  • ButtskiButtski Member UncommonPosts: 187
    Originally posted by Salute

    I guess all of those who say that they find HoT to be expensive, they were smart enough and didnt bought the ESO imperial edition, right?

     

    or bought 'archeage alpha' for 150 bucks lol.
  • d_20d_20 Member RarePosts: 1,878
    I would pay $30 for it. I'll wait till it goes on sale if I am going to get it. Current price is BS for me, considering I've spent plenty of money on gems already.


  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by pingo
    Originally posted by Muke

    Funny that Anet as a company that does not have a subscription, puts out a outstanding game, puts all extra gear and character expansions etc etc etc in a ingame cashshop for free -you can buy everything so easily by exchanging easily farmed gold, ppl are actually that dumb to buy gems with RL money?????-  asks for $50 for a full expansion. The first time they ask for money in 3 years since release.

    Yet these complainers have no problem plunging hundreds / thousands of dollars in kickstarters (SC for example, when will it be released? --> noone knows) or buy preorder kits of games that are probably never going to be launched, at least not in the way they presented it (EQNext) and pay for subscription models and another same old 13-in-a-dozen raid release with every 2-3y a expansion which they run trough within a week. (WoW)

    No problem with that. But a company that charges $50 once / 3 years? "Burn them!"

    Fkin awesome self entitled popcorn whines.

    They will argue that (Dystopia and the other one, Dekarau or something) that this is about "value" to try and divert the discussion away from these truths, because they know their arguments hold no actual water. They, and others may be succesful out of bullying Anet to give them something, but that would truly be the actual crime of all this if Anet falls for their depraved demands.

     

    Lots of people have paid full price for products only to have them, the day after go free 2 play, (Hellgate London, APB, TERA, Team Fortress 2, and countless others) and it is understood that it is not your loss because others gain something. But these posters are so selfish and greedy that they will look at others instead of what they have - Instead of thinking about all the people who paid more money than they did,or all the people who can't afford games at all.

     

    No. This ultimately about someone getting a better deal than them. I don't get it. If you get GW2 for 10 Bucks, that is an amazing deal in and of itself. Someone paid 40 dollars for GW2 before THAT deal went live. So is that person who paid 3 times as much entitled to hellfire and calling Anet for all sorts of crazy crap? No. 

     

    This sub forum have become so annoyingly hostile since this broke out. It's so entitled in the grossest way possible. Nobody asked you to buy this expansion. 

    Wow what are you going on about? I made no demand of A-net, I am not in agreement with the overall point of this thread, I've made no judgement at all on the expansions worth...  The only reason things get hostile is because of nonsense like this... You're so caught up on defending a company or product, you perceive everything as an attack on that product. Logic and reality be damned.

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  • TsumoroTsumoro Member UncommonPosts: 435
    Originally posted by Malabooga
    Originally posted by reeereee
    I'm not saying you guys got screwed but it's one less race, two less classes, and by the looks of it much smaller zones than the FFXIV expansion.

    Im not saying that youre getting robbed, but you pay MANDATORY sub and have CASH SOP AND PAY for exapnsion in FFXIV.

    Looks smaller? Tell me, what verticality do FFXIV maps have?

    You played GW2 for FREE for past 3 years and you paid 250+$ JUST to be able to play FFXIV. And it didnt even have more content than GW2. And now they want MORE money on top of that for some new content.

    Now, THATS a robbery.

    Anyone who complains that he has to pay 50$ after 3 years of playing, well, you dont deserve it, and frankly, noone cares that much.

    So even if they charged 250$ for expansion it would be MORE WORTH it than robbery called FFXIV.

    Look he wasnt trying to have a pissing contest with you about this, he was merely remarking that the cost of one expansion over the over one. Xpac for FF14 offers more content for cheaper. It was more a generalisation than a compairison between the two brands. You honestly don't need to get hyper defensive about it. 

     

    1) I want to be able to answer your questions mind you as you have asked, not sure on the first one as to what you mean, unless you mean what kind of upward progression it has? If so, the answer is many, to achieve or reach gear there are a few paths to go down to achieve it. Heavensward actually offers a good few ways to be able to reach upward progression without the need to dungeon and raid grind, this is more a premise on the patch notes than experience, as I am only level 53 thus far. 

    2) I play GW2 mainly for PvP to be honest, but FF14 does actually have more content than it, a lot of it is actually a lot more fun, or I should say I am more "invested" in the content of FF14. GW2 is a fun play, but I can easily just log on and off in my leisure without having missed much, there isn't much incentive for me to play or get invested in the games lore and characters. My personal opinion mind you, you'll have yours. 

    Also, I wouldn't suggest compairing payment models, GW2 is Buy to play, but the content is sporadic, FF14 is Sub to play but its content is large and delivered in regular batches. You get what you paid for. 

    But, I will concede that you are right, a lot of people moaning about the price of the xpac, but they forget that once owned they have that content for life, well the life of the game anyhow. So, pay a little more to be able to play forever. Its a simple thing really and they all need to calm down a bit. Its that's game payment model, they haven't dis-illusioned you with anything else, its the way GW has always been. 

    Also, its not robbery, after my share of F2P games (My fav being TSW) I am happy to invest in advance with a sub if it means regular, high quality content. Which is what you get with FF14. What IS Robbery mind you is WoW, where you pay a sub, don't get any content for over a year. They practically used the sub money to finance the xpac WoD and sold it right back to you. That is what I call robbery. 

    3) Stop attacking FF14, you look foolish. 2 different payment models. I get what you are saying but your way of thinking is skewed. 

    [] GW2 completely free after purchase, however for large additions you buy when they are available

    [] FF14 after purchase you pay in advance for new content, this model works for them because the content received is large and regular. If it wasn't the trust behind the sub would not be there and thus their payment model would fail (like ESO or Wildstar) but considering the game is doing well, you can rest assured to know that the players are happy with their purchase. 

     

    Now personally I don't have a problem with the 50 buck xpac from GW2 its how it works and I understand the logic behind it. Would be nicer however if they invested more into the content side of things other than the "living story stuff" which is very short lived for such a long wait. Perhaps introduce quite largest content to the game for 20 bucks a quarter?

    In either regards you are going to get a lot of people that are not going to like this model, mainly because its one large chuck of cash at one time, but as long as people see value in it, then it wont be a big deal. But like Op has said, the cost of the expansion is  fairly high to some people, but not a lot about it revealed. All I can say to those peeps is to wait, be patient, then see if its worth your purchase. Perhaps just stuck some money aside each week until release so if you do purchase it doesnt sting as much. 

  • mayito7777mayito7777 Member UncommonPosts: 768
    And easier solution could have been to offer the expansion to those who own the game for $19.99 and still keep the package of $50.00 for those new players buying the game for first time, who would get the game and the expansion for $50.

    want 7 free days of playing? Try this

    http://www.swtor.com/r/ZptVnY

  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter Member UncommonPosts: 3,065
    Originally posted by mayito7777
    And easier solution could have been to offer the expansion to those who own the game for $19.99 and still keep the package of $50.00 for those new players buying the game for first time, who would get the game and the expansion for $50.

    Why $19.99?

    The minimum a triple A game expansion is going to ask is $35.

    Clearly Anet believes it can sell GW2:HoT for $50.

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    Originally posted by mayito7777
    And easier solution could have been to offer the expansion to those who own the game for $19.99 and still keep the package of $50.00 for those new players buying the game for first time, who would get the game and the expansion for $50.

    Why $19.99?

    The minimum a triple A game expansion is going to ask is $35.

    Clearly Anet believes it can sell GW2:HoT for $50.

    That's not exactly true, as an example all of SWG's expansions were around 29.99. That was pretty common if memory serves, it's only recently that MMORPG studios started charging full game prices for expansions.Compared to expansions today IMO you got a lot more back then at a lower price.

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  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter Member UncommonPosts: 3,065
    Originally posted by Tsumoro

    Look he wasnt trying to have a pissing contest with you about this, he was merely remarking that the cost of one expansion over the over one. Xpac for FF14 offers more content for cheaper. It was more a generalisation than a compairison between the two brands. You honestly don't need to get hyper defensive about it. 

     

    1) I want to be able to answer your questions mind you as you have asked, not sure on the first one as to what you mean, unless you mean what kind of upward progression it has? If so, the answer is many, to achieve or reach gear there are a few paths to go down to achieve it. Heavensward actually offers a good few ways to be able to reach upward progression without the need to dungeon and raid grind, this is more a premise on the patch notes than experience, as I am only level 53 thus far. 

    2) I play GW2 mainly for PvP to be honest, but FF14 does actually have more content than it, a lot of it is actually a lot more fun, or I should say I am more "invested" in the content of FF14. GW2 is a fun play, but I can easily just log on and off in my leisure without having missed much, there isn't much incentive for me to play or get invested in the games lore and characters. My personal opinion mind you, you'll have yours. 

    Also, I wouldn't suggest compairing payment models, GW2 is Buy to play, but the content is sporadic, FF14 is Sub to play but its content is large and delivered in regular batches. You get what you paid for. 

    But, I will concede that you are right, a lot of people moaning about the price of the xpac, but they forget that once owned they have that content for life, well the life of the game anyhow. So, pay a little more to be able to play forever. Its a simple thing really and they all need to calm down a bit. Its that's game payment model, they haven't dis-illusioned you with anything else, its the way GW has always been. 

    Also, its not robbery, after my share of F2P games (My fav being TSW) I am happy to invest in advance with a sub if it means regular, high quality content. Which is what you get with FF14. What IS Robbery mind you is WoW, where you pay a sub, don't get any content for over a year. They practically used the sub money to finance the xpac WoD and sold it right back to you. That is what I call robbery. 

    3) Stop attacking FF14, you look foolish. 2 different payment models. I get what you are saying but your way of thinking is skewed. 

    [] GW2 completely free after purchase, however for large additions you buy when they are available

    [] FF14 after purchase you pay in advance for new content, this model works for them because the content received is large and regular. If it wasn't the trust behind the sub would not be there and thus their payment model would fail (like ESO or Wildstar) but considering the game is doing well, you can rest assured to know that the players are happy with their purchase. 

     

    Now personally I don't have a problem with the 50 buck xpac from GW2 its how it works and I understand the logic behind it. Would be nicer however if they invested more into the content side of things other than the "living story stuff" which is very short lived for such a long wait. Perhaps introduce quite largest content to the game for 20 bucks a quarter?

    In either regards you are going to get a lot of people that are not going to like this model, mainly because its one large chuck of cash at one time, but as long as people see value in it, then it wont be a big deal. But like Op has said, the cost of the expansion is  fairly high to some people, but not a lot about it revealed. All I can say to those peeps is to wait, be patient, then see if its worth your purchase. Perhaps just stuck some money aside each week until release so if you do purchase it doesnt sting as much. 

    Value is subjective.

    There is a ton of games they would have to pay me to actually play them.

    FF14 content for me has a value of $0. That is why I never bought it.

    I don't get the remarks of Living Story being short lived for such a long wait. 2 weeks is a long wait?

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  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter Member UncommonPosts: 3,065
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    Originally posted by mayito7777
    And easier solution could have been to offer the expansion to those who own the game for $19.99 and still keep the package of $50.00 for those new players buying the game for first time, who would get the game and the expansion for $50.

    Why $19.99?

    The minimum a triple A game expansion is going to ask is $35.

    Clearly Anet believes it can sell GW2:HoT for $50.

    That's not exactly true, as an example all of SWG's expansions were around 29.99. That was pretty common if memory serves, it's only recently that MMORPG studios started charging full game prices for expansions.Compared to expansions today IMO you got a lot more back then at a lower price.

    And in 2004 a AAA game was $40, not $60.

    It is not only MMORPGs studios but all studios.

    First you have inflation.

    That $30 in 2004 is today $37.

    Second the cost of developing a game has increased.

     

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