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I like wildstar but whats the point in buying it and subbing?

Xorian7Xorian7 Member UncommonPosts: 212
Yea it actually has some depth rpg wise for a good combat system, the content is interesting and quests arent bad. But its going f2p in what 3 months? I mean why not now? Why would anyone buy the 40 dollar game? I dont get it. I guess im stuck with star wars for now.
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  • Shoko_LiedShoko_Lied Member UncommonPosts: 2,189
    It's not F2P right now because they have to develop a new F2P infrastructure to run which is a lot of work.
  • AxehiltAxehilt Member RarePosts: 10,504

    For a lot of people $40 isn't much if a game is entertaining.  Most games that switch to F2P also give some nice benefits to pre-existing customers, though that's not where most of value comes from.  Most of the value is in playing the game now, rather than waiting around playing something that isn't new or isn't as fun.  People pay that much money for early-access after all, which is almost the same thing (except that Wildstar is likely in a more stable and content-filled state than an early-access game would be.)

    So there are reasons.

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  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,740

    Has there actually been any official word on WS going F2P? The closest I remember seeing is a Steam page getting updated to something dubious.

    They might not go F2P for a while yet, or not at all. Though the latter seems unlikely to me. Besides, if you buy it before it goes F2P you'll probably have a bunch of permanent bonuses that won't be available anymore once the boxes are gone. (Similar to what Rift and Tera did when they converted)

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  • Xorian7Xorian7 Member UncommonPosts: 212

    Ok so thats not much of a loss, how are you guys liking the game?

     

    What do you like about it?

     

    And does anyone know if I can move the target interfaces from the middle of the screen to another position?

  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,858
    Originally posted by Xorian7

    Ok so thats not much of a loss, how are you guys liking the game?

     

    What do you like about it?

    Combat is one of my favorites of all mmorpgs, it has outstanding music, superb housing, and you don't have to take things serious! Sometimes it's just good to get in a game to have fun and not have to feel like it's a job.

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  • Xorian7Xorian7 Member UncommonPosts: 212

    Honestly it does seem like another solo mmorpg to level 50 and I could just play star wars for that, id rather just wait for this to be f2p.

     

     

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,772
    Originally posted by Xorian7
    Yea it actually has some depth rpg wise for a good combat system, the content is interesting and quests arent bad. But its going f2p in what 3 months? I mean why not now? Why would anyone buy the 40 dollar game? I dont get it. I guess im stuck with star wars for now.

    just be a little patient. It is not like there aren't other entertainment for now.

    There is really no point in buying or subbing when f2p is inevitable.

  • justmemyselfandijustmemyselfandi Member UncommonPosts: 559

    Do what I do. Wait for the F2P announcement.

    Every time, they'll say something like "Everyone subscribed before this date gets these benefits/bonuses/items. The date will almost always be some time after the F2P announcement.

    So, you look at the bonuses and if they're good enough, you buy the cheapest box or digital you can find just before that date. If not, you just wait for F2P to hit and login.

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  • laokokolaokoko Member UncommonPosts: 2,004

    If it's going f2p, just means a bunch of things will be behind pay wall later.

    So might as well buy it now.  You most likely will get some veteran benefits like all those previous games that went f2p.

  • Xorian7Xorian7 Member UncommonPosts: 212
    I much rather spend 20 more dollars for a more in depth mmo like elder scrolls online.
  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,064
    Originally posted by Xorian7
    I much rather spend 20 more dollars for a more in depth mmo like elder scrolls online.

    Ah, I see, the real purpose of the thread was to bash Wildstar and promote ESO... ooooookay!

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  • tinoberserktinoberserk Member UncommonPosts: 73
    You sorta missed the two star wars comments he made And he's not really bashing WS. It does seem ESO is like some sort of red flag to you mr. Picard.
  • Xorian7Xorian7 Member UncommonPosts: 212
    No bashing here theres allot I like about it but since its going f2p I cant justify buying it now who knows the direction it will go besides if im going to play another solo mmo then it probably should be swtor id probably get bored with wildstar regardless of it having more actual rpg depth.
  • cheyanecheyane Member EpicPosts: 6,427
    There is no point to paying for any game unless you are willing to support it. If you think a game is good you should support it. That is my view, I worry about games going under because too many people refuse to support the things they enjoy. Games are going under because people no longer want to support the games they play. It will go on like this and soon we will be left with hardly any games we want to play because when we had the chance we did not support the games we wanted to play.
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  • DibdabsDibdabs Member RarePosts: 2,852
    I was quite hyped for Wildstar but it was so bland and formulaic that I swiftly gave up on it.  Even if it goes F2P I won't bother reinstalling it.
  • mrrshann618mrrshann618 Member UncommonPosts: 279

    If you are looking to make this a game that you will play the answer is simple.

     

    Support it, even if it eventually goes f2p, you support a game that you want to play. The act of supporting it will help ensure that you can CONTINUE to play that game.

     

    If you are looking for just another f2p then do as you will. Support or not, it does not matter.

     

    I do not get to play much so most sub games, for what they offer, is not worth it. I do support the games I do play, but I will be honest that when you break it down it is far less than any sub.

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  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,740
    Originally posted by cheyane
    There is no point to paying for any game unless you are willing to support it. If you think a game is good you should support it. That is my view, I worry about games going under because too many people refuse to support the things they enjoy. Games are going under because people no longer want to support the games they play. It will go on like this and soon we will be left with hardly any games we want to play because when we had the chance we did not support the games we wanted to play.

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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member EpicPosts: 7,095
    Originally posted by Shoko_Lied
    It's not F2P right now because they have to develop a new F2P infrastructure to run which is a lot of work.

     Which is probably a good indicator of how clueless they are about the market....Anyone that makes a MMO nowadays and has no plans for future f2p is basically going to fail.

  • Xorian7Xorian7 Member UncommonPosts: 212

    Instead of jumping to assumptions and telling me what to do maybe you guys should back off ok? I didn't ask you your narrowed opinions on what I should do with my money did I? No I did not think so. And i'm not going to support a game that goes f2p unless it actually turns out good, as of right now i'm paying for star wars but if I wanted to play just the f2p model that's really none of your business.

     

    And I always end up paying for a vip access towards the game im playing, im not made of money and going to spend 40 dollars a game im probably not going to play and as I pointed out could get bored with as im already playing another solo mmorpg that i'm paying for. Some of us have real  value of use what we spend and dont just throw money around because we support all these companies we really don't know anything about. And lets not forget its nc soft people lol seriously, do we have some shills here? You guys work for nc soft and want me to throw my money at you after the crap you pulled with coh? I don' think so.

     

    And again as some of you don't read id rather spend a little more and support eso considering there isn' even a sub I would need to worry about and that's the best thing I can do for my money, show me a real company worth my money and I might consider supporting them.

  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,858
    Originally posted by Theocritus
    Originally posted by Shoko_Lied
    It's not F2P right now because they have to develop a new F2P infrastructure to run which is a lot of work.

     Which is probably a good indicator of how clueless they are about the market....Anyone that makes a MMO nowadays and has no plans for future f2p is basically going to fail.

    SWTOR, Tera, LOTRO were all doing poorly and then changed over to f2p, and are very successful now. They didn't just flip a switch and instantly have a new payment model. 

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  • NightHaveNNightHaveN Member UncommonPosts: 1,051
    I like the game and paying the sub. But understand there are aspects of the game that people don't like.

    The F2P/B2P move very likely will happen by next drop. Yes there is no official info about it, but due to financials something needs to change.

    But also the game was misunderstood by many. For example saw a range Spellslinger having trouble with a section of Auroria (lvl 20 spot), and I have to tether his pulls to prevent him from dying. Those mobs can be taken easily with 2-3 moves (as Spellslinger) if have the right ones.

    And know this by fact since I'm fixing and updating my local Zygor copy with both Stalker and Slinger back to back running and verifying the guide changes.
  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,064
    Originally posted by tinoberserk
    You sorta missed the two star wars comments he made And he's not really bashing WS. It does seem ESO is like some sort of red flag to you mr. Picard.

    Ah yeah, that must be why I have the ESO icon right next WoW, GW2, Landmark and the other games I play right now.

    Assumption always end the same way...

    Of course you can now assume I bother installing a 40+gb game just for the fun of using my bandwidth and wasting my SSD space.

     

     

    I rank TESO way higher than Wildstar (WAY, way higher), the way the OP turned his thread just looked strange to me. The title of it is already 25% question and 75% bashing, and then comes that post. Sorry if I had legitimate doubts about the real point of the thread.

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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,772
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by Theocritus
    Originally posted by Shoko_Lied
    It's not F2P right now because they have to develop a new F2P infrastructure to run which is a lot of work.

     Which is probably a good indicator of how clueless they are about the market....Anyone that makes a MMO nowadays and has no plans for future f2p is basically going to fail.

    SWTOR, Tera, LOTRO were all doing poorly and then changed over to f2p, and are very successful now. They didn't just flip a switch and instantly have a new payment model. 

    and WS should have learned the lesson from these games since it was released much later.

     

  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,858
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by Theocritus
    Originally posted by Shoko_Lied
    It's not F2P right now because they have to develop a new F2P infrastructure to run which is a lot of work.

     Which is probably a good indicator of how clueless they are about the market....Anyone that makes a MMO nowadays and has no plans for future f2p is basically going to fail.

    SWTOR, Tera, LOTRO were all doing poorly and then changed over to f2p, and are very successful now. They didn't just flip a switch and instantly have a new payment model. 

    and WS should have learned the lesson from these games since it was released much later.

     

    Why in the heck would a company invest money and develop an entire F2P or B2P model if they don't use it. That would be like me buying a spare engine for my car and putting it in my garage in case the block cracks. 

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  • NightHaveNNightHaveN Member UncommonPosts: 1,051
    Some people like F2P, being kids and leeches mostly. Others more mature like P2P because when a game lacks a 2nd way of income, every item is obtainable as part of the same simple and low subscription fee. Plus less chance of those cupcake kids that are growing these days that don't give a damn about anything being in those games behind a pay wall.

    Why supporting it. Simple you paid for things you like every day... food, movies, cable/sat/stream tv. If you like it, then you should pay it. The more subs the more likely chances game doesn't become another F2P full of kiddies.
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