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Reddit Forum Mods turned North Korea

FleshMaskFleshMask Member UncommonPosts: 249

So now the moderators on reddit decided to they are not having any B2P or F2P posts anymore, they rather censor any productive or well thought out discussions. So here it is, the WORST MMORPG community in action.

http://www.reddit.com/r/WildStar/comments/35pkl7/mod_post_i_will_no_longer_be_allowing_any_f2pb2p/

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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,868
    Way to treat your potential and current customers.  No right to free speech there.

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  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,145
    Originally posted by Octagon7711
    Way to treat your potential and current customers.  No right to free speech there.

    Why would you have a "RIGHT" to free speech there?

  • DocBrodyDocBrody Member UncommonPosts: 1,926

    why should they allow countless B2P-F2P speculation threads? I don't get what the problem is

     

    and the mod is not a Carbine employee obviously

     

  • FoomerangFoomerang Member UncommonPosts: 5,619

    I don't recall there ever being a productive thread concerning b2p/f2p in any forum ever. Could be wrong though heh.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 27,450
    Originally posted by FleshMask

    So now the moderators on reddit decided to they are not having any B2P or F2P posts anymore, they rather censor any productive or well thought out discussions. So here it is, the WORST MMORPG community in action.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/WildStar/comments/35pkl7/mod_post_i_will_no_longer_be_allowing_any_f2pb2p/

    Did you actually read the response? It seems very reasonable. And the mod did say that if actual news about the game going b2p/f2p was presented they would not remove it.

    So "no" no "North Korea" there. Especially because, as one poster put it, there is no issue with "freedom of speech" there.

     

    I really wish they would teach that in schools again as it seems some people don't seem to know what it is anymore.




  • KanethKaneth Member RarePosts: 2,283

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with that policy. Those who run forums have every right to decide what is and isn't appropriate topic for the forums that they run.

    Personally, I would just merge all of the F2P/B2P topics into one megathread and then moderate the trolling posts out on an individual basis. I'm not the one running the show over there though. 

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 27,450
    Originally posted by Kaneth

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with that policy. Those who run forums have every right to decide what is and isn't appropriate topic for the forums that they run.

    Personally, I would just merge all of the F2P/B2P topics into one megathread and then moderate the trolling posts out on an individual basis. I'm not the one running the show over there though. 

    I think that's a decent idea and I believe I evensaw one of their posters suggest something similar. But maybe the moderator thinks, from experience, that will be too work intensive? Don't know.




  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 2,893
    Originally posted by Foomerang

    I don't recall there ever being a productive thread concerning b2p/f2p in any forum ever.

     

  • ButeoRegalisButeoRegalis Member UncommonPosts: 594
    Originally posted by Octagon7711
    Way to treat your potential and current customers.  No right to free speech there.

    Indeed. Why would you expect a right to free speech there?

    (Hint: Before you answer, go look up what this right is actually all about, or continue to post and show your ignorance. :) )

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  • LordZeikLordZeik Member UncommonPosts: 276
    Wonder what happened to the old ways of doing things. If you don't like the game or it's business model you steer clear of it. Now everyone wants to try and make the world f2p at this point. Your opinion can be silenced at anytime on the internet. Just go get a milkshake and walk it off champ.
  • NarwrynnNarwrynn Member UncommonPosts: 83

    Read the full post guys. The issue is not that players are discussing a F2P/B2P model it is mostly just "Is wWildstar f2p yet?"

    If you have any evidence (Such as when copies here pulled from shelves) Then that is fine to talk about. 

    Also not a carbine employee.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 34,488
    Totally reasonable position by the moderator, at least until some evidence comes along.

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  • OmaliOmali MMO Business CorrespondentMember UncommonPosts: 1,171
    Originally posted by Octagon7711
    Way to treat your potential and current customers.  No right to free speech there.

    The Wildstar subreddit isn't run by NCSoft.

    Check out my monthly column on MMORPG.com.

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  • damond5031damond5031 Member UncommonPosts: 444
    What is the problem with letting people read and discuss what they want to? As long is no one is being a total troll or trying to start fights, I dont see what the problem is. The wider the range of topics present on the forum, the more folks will likely be interested in visiting said forums. If you don't like a topic dont read it.  With that being said its their site and they can do what they want, I am sure the discussions can be taken elsewhere.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 27,450
    Originally posted by damond5031
    What is the problem with letting people read and discuss what they want to? As long is no one is being a total troll or trying to start fights, I dont see what the problem is. The wider the range of topics present on the forum, the more folks will likely be interested in visiting said forums. If you don't like a topic dont read it.  With that being said its their site and they can do what they want, I am sure the discussions can be taken elsewhere.

    I believe that's the issue, the moderator indicates that all the threads are devolving into troll bait or fights.




  • akiira69akiira69 Member UncommonPosts: 603
    Originally posted by FleshMask

    So now the moderators on reddit decided to they are not having any B2P or F2P posts anymore, they rather censor any productive or well thought out discussions. So here it is, the WORST MMORPG community in action.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/WildStar/comments/35pkl7/mod_post_i_will_no_longer_be_allowing_any_f2pb2p/

    Since you have no clue as to what you are talking about I shall explain it to you. Reddit is a privately owned message board service. They have the right to say what can, and cannot be posted on their website. You do not have Freedom of Speech, you do not have Freedom of Press. If you want these things start up your own message board/website and make your own rules. Until then you have to abide by the rules set by the Mods and Admins of Reddit. Dont like that? Fine then dont post on Reddit.

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  • sayuusayuu Member RarePosts: 747
    Originally posted by Octagon7711
    Way to treat your potential and current customers.  No right to free speech there.

    you also have the right to be completely ignorant of your rights. . . . .

  • AethaerynAethaeryn Member RarePosts: 3,034
    I look at it this way. . you DO have freedom to express yourself anyway you want there and they have a right to  delete it or ban you since it is their property. :P

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  • Dragonsfire9Dragonsfire9 Member UncommonPosts: 85
    Originally posted by Omali
    Originally posted by Octagon7711
    Way to treat your potential and current customers.  No right to free speech there.

    The Wildstar subreddit isn't run by NCSoft.

    ^^  This

  • doodphacedoodphace Member UncommonPosts: 1,858
    Originally posted by Dragonsfire9
    Originally posted by Omali
    Originally posted by Octagon7711
    Way to treat your potential and current customers.  No right to free speech there.

    The Wildstar subreddit isn't run by NCSoft.

    ^^  This

    The subreddit has 3 moderators....one of which is a Carbine employee.....

    ...so no, the subreddit isnt "run by NCSoft", but this is indeed being condoned by Carbine directly...

     

  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,657
    Where has this Wildstar subreddit moderator located their reeducation camps for those who post about free-to-play/pay-to-play speculations?
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  • WarlyxWarlyx Member RarePosts: 2,927

    when u have more ppl arguing in reddit/XXXXXX about your game going f2p than actual subscribers....something is wrong lol

    j/k  :P ,but looks like today Ncsoft will publish Q1 earning report .....

  • KumaponKumapon Member RarePosts: 1,267


    Originally posted by Skuall
    when u have more ppl arguing in reddit/XXXXXX about your game going f2p than actual subscribers....something is wrong lol

    j/k  :P ,but looks like today Ncsoft will publish Q1 earning report .....



    I find it interesting that the mods are doing an all out ban on talking about FTP/B2P just literally hours before Ncsoft's Q1 earning's report comes out.

  • HeraseHerase Member RarePosts: 992
    Originally posted by doodphace
    Originally posted by Dragonsfire9
    Originally posted by Omali
    Originally posted by Octagon7711
    Way to treat your potential and current customers.  No right to free speech there.

    The Wildstar subreddit isn't run by NCSoft.

    ^^  This

    The subreddit has 3 moderators....one of which is a Carbine employee.....

    ...so no, the subreddit isnt "run by NCSoft", but this is indeed being condoned by Carbine directly...

     

    Regardless, it was done for a valid reason. The topic was being spammed over and over again with each thread devolving into a toxic pit. The same would happen here if it went too far. It's clear it got to that point on the subreddit.

  • Mondo80Mondo80 Member UncommonPosts: 194

    I agree with Reddit on this issue. 

     

    It is their website.

     

    All website mods are free to allow/block any content they see fit.  Even on this site the Mods would delete treads if they became an issue.  Remember the ESO leaks posted here that were stamped out while the NDA was in affect?

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